Sorry Himu but this is just another example of your hypocrisy with regard to music. 808s is full of a bunch of variations of love/relationship songs. Whenever you lecture people on music you point to these songs as if they haven't been done a billion times - and in the case of 808s, been done far better with better production. Yet then you criticize hip hop for featuring themes/lyrics that have been done over and over. Your reasoning is laughable.
So your idea of cookie cutter is a love song? Wow, that's some argument. Your argument is horrendous and full of holes. A theme is not cookie cutter. Love and relationship songs are not cookie cutter by themself, especially given content.
Let's take a look at some of the lyrics from Welcome to Heartbreak:
My friend showed me pictures of his kids
And all I could show him was pictures of my cribs
He said his daughter got a brand new report card (card)
And all I got was a brand new sports car
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Dad cracked a joke all the kids laugh
But I couldn't hear em all the way in first class
Chased the good life my whole life long
Look back on my life and my life gone
Where did I go wrong?
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And this is just one song.
bububububbubububububububut "cookie cutter" while pimping an album that features describing fucking a mummy pussy. You truly have fallen, Maurice.
Show me lyrics from Dark Fantasy that offer nearly as much introspection.
Second off, the depth of a song doesn't make it good. Dark Fantasy is beyond stellar on a production level, and it makes 808s sound amateur in comparison on every level. Kanye can't sing, and isn't a good lyricist, everyone agrees on that. Yet you find an album where he's singing off tune with autotune and crooning generic break up songs to be a work of genius.
I never said 808s was genius. I actually don't like a lot of some of the ideas. Like on Say You Will, was it really necessary to sing SO SAY YOU WILLLllllLLLLL? Fuck no. It wasn't. Production-wise, Dark Fantasy is great, I agree. But I still fail to see how it sounds amateur. It sounds different, minimalist, atmospheric and moody. It lacks the over production that is common in a lot of modern mainstream music and I think it sounds interesting.
I don't listen to Kanye expecting the lyrical dexterity of Common or the wit of MF DOOM. I listen because he's a dope ass mainstream producer with honest introspection in his music. Propping up music that doesn't rhyme isn't deep. As Shawn Carter would say, trying to kick knowledge? fuckouttahere
Where is the introspection in Dark Fantasy beyond muscle flexing? There is no introspection. It is Kanye drinking Kanye Kool-Aid. He is on his own dick as much as Jay-Z regularly is. I am honest and consistent with my tastes. You however are an enigma. This album is full of the exact same "Me Kool-Aid" that any other mainstream rapper likes to drink, especially Jay, that you love to hate oh so much, but it's a great album because...the production?
What happened here? The cards are on the table. Defend your position with actual content rather than "well...love/relationship songs are cookie-cutter". And before you mention it, yes, Robocop sucks ass.
