3DS Chinese Connection(3D not mandatory,up to developers)

[Eel O'Brian]

well, to be fair again, they do expect you to move around a lot with this thing or they wouldn't have included a gyroscope, so tethering it to a wall outlet might not be the optimal solution after all

[EmCeeGrammar]

Battery life is the most overrated aspect of a handheld ever.  Nfags who care are:

a) asspies who have the fucking nerditude to pull something that dumb out in public to experience 3D gaming around other people

b) Friendless mouthbreathers who sit upside down stylusin' pikachu's fupa.  All fucking day long.

Plug it in, for god sakes.  And if you play it in public, dear lord, turn the 3D off.  And the brightness down, so at the very least people around you can't tell you're playing some loli touching game

So you claim to be an nfag but are apparently ashamed of your hobby.  And a and b seem kind of redundant.  Oh wait, its brandnew, blindly defending the hive once again.

[TakingBackSunday]

honestly?  I don't game anymore.  I plan on getting this because I like to get in a few minutes of DS or PSP before I go to bed, but all the gaming I do anymore is iPhone gaming or XBLA shit.

[EmCeeGrammar]

Revoking nfag status.   You are no longer permitted to participate in Zelda discussions, that includes new games, talks of canon/timeline/etc., and having the wrong opinion on Phantom Hourglass. 

And who wants to bet Brandnew got a girlfriend?

[TakingBackSunday]

Zelda is the only game series I care about other than Mario anymore, and Phantom Hourglass undeniably sucks.  So much.

[Purple Filth]

They are now saying it could be with all the bells and whistles on.

well see if true.

[EmCeeGrammar]

Zelda is the only game series I care about other than Mario anymore, and Phantom Hourglass undeniably sucks.  So much.

I'm sorry I can't read this it's in violation of the nintard quality assurance standards.  You have been tainted.

[Himu]

They are now saying it could be with all the bells and whistles on.

well see if true.

told ya.

people am wah wahs

[AdmiralViscen]

to get the battery life people want out of these devices while still achieving the performance people also want, they would have to have batteries the size and weight of a paving block

it's always going to be one or the other, you're never gonna get both

There are certainly reasonably-sized batteries out there with capacities greater than 1300mah. Newer smartphones are in the 1800mah range and the 3DS is pretty beefy already.

[cool breeze]

Battery life is the most overrated aspect of a handheld ever.  Nfags who care are:

a) asspies who have the fucking nerditude to pull something that dumb out in public to experience 3D gaming around other people

b) Friendless mouthbreathers who sit upside down stylusin' pikachu's fupa.  All fucking day long.

Plug it in, for god sakes.  And if you play it in public, dear lord, turn the 3D off.  And the brightness down, so at the very least people around you can't tell you're playing some loli touching game

or kids who play at school.  I like to assume that most people that post on gaf are young because their posts would be really creepy otherwise...haha

Last time I regularly played a portable game thing in public was Pokemon in primary school, I think.

I don't mind the battery thing since handheld gaming has been 'lounge around/lazy gaming' since the GBA, but it's fun to have a laugh about this stuff.  No point in getting all worked up defending it just to win an argument about the battery life on a video game system. 

[Eel O'Brian]

no, it's perfectly understandable, you want to diddle around with your manchild toys in public for 14-15 hours at a time, much more respectable than never taking it out of a cave-like lair

[TakingBackSunday]

iPad gaming.

[Eel O'Brian]

just saying having your face shoved in a screen while scratching away at pokemons for hours is around the same level of societal interaction as never leaving the house

plus, i'd imagine there'll be third parties making battery pack cases out the ass for this thing

[Eel O'Brian]

don't sell yourself short, you're at least douchey enough for an android device

[cool breeze]

the only acceptable way to play games is public is on a phone...because it looks like you're texting someone

Ipad is definitely luxury for the home (I want one eventually) but that's not far removed from brining a dedicated gaming thing.  It's too much planning to be entertained when out.   I can understand if it's on a flight or something; day to day a phone is ideal because it's always with you...unless you're the type of person who just refuses to own a cellphone.

Speaking of which, I was planning on getting an iPhone 4 soon and now there are rumors of the iPhone 5 or second revision of iPhone 4.  Fuck this shit.  This is why I've been playing Bookworm and Tetris on my old ass bar phone for half a decade.

don't sell yourself short, you're at least douchey enough for an android device

I'm hoping.  We'll see if I pass the test in May.   

is that when the psp phone comes out? 


oh, and a DoA 3ds trailer.  I don't know what the deal is with this game, whether it's a port or the first new DoA by the new Team Ninja, I mean.
[youtube=560,345]80u2vbr5rGU[/youtube]
if it's the latter, I'm interested to see how it'd turn out.  I sort of enjoy the DoA games on the same level as the Tekken games, and I bought Tekken PSP because it was a solid portable fighter.

<- blurry kid icarus video
[youtube=560,345]X_yW4bLZiNs[/youtube]
^
blurry Resident Evil Mercenaries video.  Interesting because aiming is first person now and you can move, aim, and shoot at the same time.

[Eel O'Brian]

hahaha

there will be external battery packs for this thing, although i'd imagine they'll make it look like an orthopedic shoe

[Eel O'Brian]

any FPS games announced for this thing yet, btw?

[Himu]

holy fuck that re mercs vid looks straight out of RE5

majini have the same animations and everything

[Eel O'Brian]

i don't have much interest in buying one, but i do have a portable fps fetish (i know, i know), and i have to say that a "Medal of Honor Classics 3D" portover/remake of the early games would get me to start throwing some change in a jar

[cool breeze]

any FPS games announced for this thing yet, btw?

Nothing yet, but I'm sure it's just a matter of time.  Activision at least can probably be counted on for an attempt.

n-space made most of the fps games for activision and wasn't there some trouble not too long ago with them?

and gameloft will probably bring their fps games to the 3DS.  I mean, NOVA (the halo one) is on the PSP.

[Purple Filth]

Nintendo world stream going on now

Showing Kid Icarus

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nintendo-world-2011

[maxy]

3-5 hours?
Nintendo is cheap

[iconoclast]

BlazBlue Continuum Shift 2 is just the same game we have on consoles with the 3 DLC characters and the balance update patch that's coming out. And speaking of BB, Valkenhayn was delayed on the 360 for months, and now that he's finally out, all of the achievements that come with him are glitched and unobtainable. The PS3 version is perfectly fine though.

Good job ArcSys.

And in typical Hayashi fashion, DOA 3DS just looks like a mish-mash of older, better Itagaki games with extra crap thrown in. Snooze.

[pilonv1]

So is DOA relevant again? Someone keep me up to date.

[maxy]

It's an odd system.

Nintendo have had it rather good in the handheld market, since the GBA they have been releasing systems using old (and very cheap) hardware at cutting edge prices and getting away with it. With the 3DS they've had to make quite a jump because for the 3D effect to work, you don't just need the fancy screens but also the grunt to pull the effect off.

With say an xbox game, if your game slows down and starts dropping frames it's not the end of the world - most titles now attempt 30 fps but often drop well below it, which is the cost of trying to make a sequel look nicer when you've pretty much already maxed out the hardware. With the 3DS, if your game starts to drop frames you have a problem, because Nintendo are seriously worried about causing headaches and related health problems. So while it has a lot of grunt, you can't really tap into it that effectively until they stop worrying about the consequences (personally it doesn't seem to affect me at all).

I'm most excited about the software side of things, the ability to passively communicate with nearby systems for example could be huge if done well, going for a walk and coming back and finding out you've imported other peoples characters to battle against etc.

Battery life is really poor on the dev systems, they come with a dock so you are pretty much always charging it when not in use, and then you get about 3 hours tops. Hopefully final systems have larger capacity batteries.

The PSP2 is more exciting in terms of pure hardware.

dev post

[pilonv1]

The PSP2 is more exciting in terms of pure hardware.

Not particularly shocking

[maxy]

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/3ds/experience/nw2011/mov/stage0108_4.html

Kid Icarus footage 18 min in

[iconoclast]

Well I hope the PSP2 has a touch screen or motion sensor or something unique for it to be "more exciting in terms of pure hardware."

[The Sceneman]

whats all this shit about playing handheld games in public being some sort of giant fucking taboo? I game on public transport all the time. nothing wrong with it. I'm a gamer and proud of it

[Corporal]

I whip out my raw, naked DS and play with it on the train, in the bus, in the presence of children and elderly alike.

I never realized that this apparently makes me a rebel. Awesome.

Maybe it's a German thing (with us EU types always going for that eco hippie shit and stuff), but I see people diddling their Handhelds/Smartphones/Laptops on public transportation all the time. It's not like they suffer some sort of stigma for it.

Public transportation is fucking boring, what else besides gaming, listening to music and reading a book/paper can you do? It's not like you're driving the damn thing, you just sit or stand there inside your tiny imaginary cubicle and stare into space. Or into the faces of your fellow burnt-out work drones and/or underage chickenshits. Which ain't no cake walk either.

[iconoclast]

I bring my DS or PSP with me whenever I go out too. I was even playing my DS when I had jury duty earlier this year. Complete with my full set of pirated games.

[SantaC]

Battery life is the most overrated aspect of a handheld ever.  Nfags who care are:

a) asspies who have the fucking nerditude to pull something that dumb out in public to experience 3D gaming around other people

b) Friendless mouthbreathers who sit upside down stylusin' pikachu's fupa.  All fucking day long.

Plug it in, for god sakes.  And if you play it in public, dear lord, turn the 3D off.  And the brightness down, so at the very least people around you can't tell you're playing some loli touching game

This. Well said BN.

[Eel O'Brian]

you guys probably all still look young

i am old with graying hair, and if i pull out a handheld and turn it on and "ITSA ME MARIO HAHA" comes blaring out of the speaker people start grabbing up their children and moving them several seats away

[Eel O'Brian]

i don't think it matters when you are 41

[Himu]

whats all this shit about playing handheld games in public being some sort of giant fucking taboo? I game on public transport all the time. nothing wrong with it. I'm a gamer and proud of it

Remember most of us are Americans who value our shitty cars and sense of entitlement who wouldn't be caught dead riding transit.

And since I use PT I take my handhelds out and play them all the time. The way I see it, I'd rather read, listen to music or play a game or sleep than tear my hair out driving to some location. Driving is fucking BORING. But I am a rare breed.

[Eel O'Brian]

probably not going to matter at all here in another 10-20 years when these devices become so ubiquitous that even most olds have them and the really-really old generation has died off

there are people living in my neighborhood who reached adulthood when television was still a novelty, so anything electronic which makes noises and flashes is regarded as a child's toy (even phones)

[Eel O'Brian]

whats all this shit about playing handheld games in public being some sort of giant fucking taboo? I game on public transport all the time. nothing wrong with it. I'm a gamer and proud of it

Remember most of us are Americans who value our shitty cars and sense of entitlement who wouldn't be caught dead riding transit.

or live in areas/have a job which requires owning a vehicle

[Purple Filth]

It's an odd system.

Nintendo have had it rather good in the handheld market, since the GBA they have been releasing systems using old (and very cheap) hardware at cutting edge prices and getting away with it. With the 3DS they've had to make quite a jump because for the 3D effect to work, you don't just need the fancy screens but also the grunt to pull the effect off.

With say an xbox game, if your game slows down and starts dropping frames it's not the end of the world - most titles now attempt 30 fps but often drop well below it, which is the cost of trying to make a sequel look nicer when you've pretty much already maxed out the hardware. With the 3DS, if your game starts to drop frames you have a problem, because Nintendo are seriously worried about causing headaches and related health problems. So while it has a lot of grunt, you can't really tap into it that effectively until they stop worrying about the consequences (personally it doesn't seem to affect me at all).

I'm most excited about the software side of things, the ability to passively communicate with nearby systems for example could be huge if done well, going for a walk and coming back and finding out you've imported other peoples characters to battle against etc.

Battery life is really poor on the dev systems, they come with a dock so you are pretty much always charging it when not in use, and then you get about 3 hours tops. Hopefully final systems have larger capacity batteries.

The PSP2 is more exciting in terms of pure hardware.

dev post

link for this and someone post this in the GAF thread for some lolz 

[EmCeeGrammar]

It's an odd system.

Nintendo have had it rather good in the handheld market, since the GBA they have been releasing systems using old (and very cheap) hardware at cutting edge prices and getting away with it. With the 3DS they've had to make quite a jump because for the 3D effect to work, you don't just need the fancy screens but also the grunt to pull the effect off.

With say an xbox game, if your game slows down and starts dropping frames it's not the end of the world - most titles now attempt 30 fps but often drop well below it, which is the cost of trying to make a sequel look nicer when you've pretty much already maxed out the hardware. With the 3DS, if your game starts to drop frames you have a problem, because Nintendo are seriously worried about causing headaches and related health problems. So while it has a lot of grunt, you can't really tap into it that effectively until they stop worrying about the consequences (personally it doesn't seem to affect me at all).

I'm most excited about the software side of things, the ability to passively communicate with nearby systems for example could be huge if done well, going for a walk and coming back and finding out you've imported other peoples characters to battle against etc.

Battery life is really poor on the dev systems, they come with a dock so you are pretty much always charging it when not in use, and then you get about 3 hours tops. Hopefully final systems have larger capacity batteries.

The PSP2 is more exciting in terms of pure hardware.

dev post

link for this and someone post this in the GAF thread for some lolz 

I don't see the problem here.  3d has been known to give many people nausea and headaches, I get a slight twinge of nausea when I'm playing an fps and the framerate keeps fluctuating. Its a valid concern.  I just don't understand how the developer can be excited for the psp2 horsepower when they just decried how the 3ds has a bad battery life. 

[maxy]

dev post

link for this and someone post this in the GAF thread for some lolz 

Nah,i don't want to drag anyone through a mob of angry nfans,he might get scared and not post anymore.

I don't see the problem here.  3d has been known to give many people nausea and headaches, I get a slight twinge of nausea when I'm playing an fps and the framerate keeps fluctuating. Its a valid concern.  I just don't understand how the developer can be excited for the psp2 horsepower when they just decried how the 3ds has a bad battery life. 

Maybe it makes his life easier and people like working with new advanced hardware.3DS has bad battery life because Nintendo is cheap and super greedy.They could put far better battery but then 3DS wouldn't print millions on day one.Of course now they can sell larger batteries an make millions.

[EmCeeGrammar]

Man I hope you're just as critical of the next psp when it has worse battery life and it just as expensive. Oh wait, you're the microsoft schill concern trolling again, so of course you will be.

[EmCeeGrammar]

The framerate better be perfect. Its weird that Nintendo can squeeze every clockcycle out of the wii but is having trouble matching third parties on their premiere hardware.

[maxy]

Man I hope you're just as critical of the next psp when it has worse battery life and it just as expensive. Oh wait, you're the microsoft schill concern trolling again, so of course you will be.

yeah blame ms

I expect similar battery life for PSP2 and about the same price.At least it will have a reason to be like that.

[EmCeeGrammar]

No one is blaming ms, I'm blaming the xbot concern troll.

[Purple Filth]

No one is blaming ms, I'm blaming the xbot concern troll.

he's been doing it for a while.

[maxy]

No one is blaming ms, I'm blaming the xbot concern troll.

spin spin spin

3DS is no threat to xbots,same goes with PSP
love my PSP,Sony did a great job with PSP(hardware wise),expect the same with PSP2
Nintendo and their outdated shit

[Purple Filth]

No one is blaming ms, I'm blaming the xbot concern troll.

spin spin spin

3DS is no threat to xbots,same goes with PSP
love my PSP,Sony did a great job with PSP(hardware wise),expect the same with PSP2
Nintendo and their outdated shit

Being fair it seems the system is kinda decent but its Nintendo enforcing limits.

[maxy]

I agree in principle,but decent by Nintendo standards.Jump from DS is huge,from PSP not much(if any).

It doesn't tell much about games of course,but it should be easy to understand why some people are excited about PSP2.
Not to mention that PSP2 has a huge room for improvement on the software side.
and dual analogs

[magus]

yea i can't wait for PSP2 so they can have patapon 4,loco roco 3,another god of war portable and probably a port of disgaea 3 just to spite on me

spoiler (click to show/hide)

damn i feel cranky today!

[close]

[TakingBackSunday]

The reason I said iPad (or tablet gaming) or iPhone/Android gaming is because those devices contain the sorts of the games that made handheld gaming such a success when it initially hit the market – short, satisfying little distractions that can be played for 10 seconds or ten minutes.  There are hardcore games available with these devices, but they're so few and far between and hard to control that most of the time, it's not worth it.  The devices from Nintendo and Sony are increasingly so much like their TV tethered counterparts that it's just...it's almost not worth pulling out in public, it takes away from the experience.  Especially with the 3DS if the 3D is vital to the game.

[maxy]

I just hope that Sony has learned something from PSP.Don't port down console games...spin-off,side story + unique content is the way to go
They said once that unique content and spin-offs are selling better than console ports...there is hope
Hopefully Sony is courting western hardcore devs,Rockstar,Bioware,Bethesda,etc...get some unique content or more likely side story from their popular franchises,just tie it into main games(money,experience,etc,etc)

I would be all over that

Some COD spinoff could sell decently assuming it has good controls and multiplayer



 

[Damian79]

Turning the cameras off may net you more game time.



Pic stolen from opa ages which is probably stolen from GAF.

[Damian79]

The difference that wifi and cameras can make.

[Smooth Groove]

Zelda looks like a typical VC ripoff with Nintendo not doing much other than to make it run. 

[maxy]

Yeah,Zelda 3DS is a showcase of Nintendo strategy,"use as less money as possible and charge as much as possible"

It has nothing to do with 3DS capabilities.

[TakingBackSunday]

will still buy, though

and also, they said they would alter some dungeons and do some other new things as well.  I'm thinking mainly water temple stuff

[Himu]

OoT 3ds looks fantastic for REAL Zelda fans.

[Phoenix Dark]

Nice seeing this hilarious role reversal on battery life between Ntards and Stards

[EmCeeGrammar]

OoT 3ds looks fantastic for REAL Zelda fans.

The director of Skyward Sword also directed Phantom Hourglass.  I win.

[Himu]

OoT 3ds looks fantastic for REAL Zelda fans.

The director of Skyward Sword also directed Phantom Hourglass.  I win.

lalalaaaaaaaaa

can't read what yer sayingggggggggg