Author Topic: December 2010 NPD thread(EU sales numbers inside) (Read 16305 times)

maxy · « **Reply #60 on:** January 14, 2011, 01:42:40 PM »

It was posted on no smiley forum,response

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No one with a clue outside of console fanboy wankery considered Kinect and Move in direct competition with one another, or that Move would come anywhere close competing with Kinect even in a vague way. The fact that MS keeps harping on it just comes off as immature as hell.

So what is then Move competition,Wii?
That turned out even worse

Reminds me of "Wii is not competition" Sony stuff...

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #61 on:** January 14, 2011, 01:46:47 PM »

Quote from: maxy on January 14, 2011, 01:42:40 PM

It was posted on no smiley forum,response

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No one with a clue outside of console fanboy wankery considered Kinect and Move in direct competition with one another, or that Move would come anywhere close competing with Kinect even in a vague way. The fact that MS keeps harping on it just comes off as immature as hell.

So what is then Move competition,Wii?
That turned out even worse

Reminds me of "Wii is not competition" Sony stuff...

lol wtf

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #62 on:** January 14, 2011, 01:54:55 PM »

Quote from: maxy on January 14, 2011, 01:42:40 PM

It was posted on no smiley forum,response

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No one with a clue outside of console fanboy wankery considered Kinect and Move in direct competition with one another, or that Move would come anywhere close competing with Kinect even in a vague way. The fact that MS keeps harping on it just comes off as immature as hell.

So what is then Move competition,Wii?
That turned out even worse

Reminds me of "Wii is not competition" Sony stuff...

Immature?

maxy · « **Reply #63 on:** January 14, 2011, 02:04:59 PM »

He thought that MS was behind those numbers

Even if you could forget everything on forums,websites you still have Sony
They were quite quick to respond to MS 2.5 million sold figure...hardly a coincidence

maxy · « **Reply #64 on:** January 14, 2011, 02:13:41 PM »

In other words,

"wait for a price drop"

didn't we saw that before?

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #65 on:** January 14, 2011, 04:35:22 PM »

Quote from: Billy Rygar on January 14, 2011, 01:38:00 PM

560? It'll end up where GT4 did in the long run.

So GT5 sold almost 10x as well in Japan and Europe? It's amazing how much relevance Sony has lost in the US.

maxy · « **Reply #66 on:** January 14, 2011, 04:40:39 PM »

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Epic Mickey ranked among the top-selling console games in December, according to figures released by the NPD Group. Disney sold 1.3 million units, said people familiar with the data.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2011/01/disneys-epic-mickey-video-game-sells-13-million-copies-in-first-month.html

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #67 on:** January 14, 2011, 05:59:05 PM »

Every publisher considers shipped= sold. I guess they think they have decent odds that they won't have to take unsold inventory back.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #68 on:** January 14, 2011, 06:44:04 PM »

Pretty sure that Sony said 5 million sold at CES, not just shipped. It's pretty shady to use shipped numbers as an indication of success when they're so drastically different from sell-through numbers. If shipped numbers is the industry standard, then Activision can just announce that COD has sold 20 million copies worldwide.

maxy · « **Reply #69 on:** January 15, 2011, 03:18:11 AM »

If somebody is interested in UK 2010 stuff

Online MCV mag
http://62.128.151.219/A1qndr/MCV140111/resources/index.htm

Tons of data there,
top 50,various gaming related percentages,movie industry percentages,article about Capcom saying that smartphones have taken place of the DS,PSP and PC,etc

Yeti · « **Reply #70 on:** January 16, 2011, 09:29:28 PM »

Not gonna lie, I play Smurf's Village every now and then. $:-\$

cool breeze · « **Reply #71 on:** January 16, 2011, 10:43:34 PM »

PS3 is selling for $40 on Target/Amazon (orders will probably get cancelled) and is one of the top things on amazon now

next month PS3 counter attack

1. Ranking has gone up in the past 24 hours 623,500%
Sales Rank in Video Games: 1 (was 6,236 yesterday)

Sony

naff · « **Reply #72 on:** January 16, 2011, 10:56:16 PM »

I would try this but they don't ship internationally :'(

Quote from: amazon forums

got this from another site im on someguy purchased it and talked to the Target Rep :

'hey again we are sorry and we will honor this purchase it has to be a slim because we don't have any of the bigger models anymore is that suitable for you?'' i said yup and he said again we are truly sorry and they really dropped the ball on this one you should receive it in 2-4 weeks...

http://www.target.com/dp/B0009VXAM0

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #73 on:** January 16, 2011, 11:10:59 PM »

that's not a ps3; that's a "PlayStation 3 Move Advanced Shooter Grip (PlayStation 3)"

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #74 on:** January 16, 2011, 11:12:30 PM »

It's going to be funny if everyone that orders this gets a Move Sharp Shooter.

naff · « **Reply #75 on:** January 16, 2011, 11:19:36 PM »

I didn't look at the target listing properly

the Amazon listing that was up a few minutes ago didn't have that and has been updated now but This Link still goes to the 40$ listing

Diunx · « **Reply #76 on:** January 16, 2011, 11:24:09 PM »

Quote from: Linkzg on January 16, 2011, 10:43:34 PM

PS3 is selling for $40 on Target/Amazon (orders will probably get cancelled) and is one of the top things on amazon now

next month PS3 counter attack

1. Ranking has gone up in the past 24 hours 623,500%
Sales Rank in Video Games: 1 (was 6,236 yesterday)

Sony

Fuuuuuuuuuuu why I'm unemployed :'( :'( if they haven't fixed by tomorrow I'm gonna tell my brother to see if he buys it.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #77 on:** January 16, 2011, 11:28:25 PM »

Should I buy this? What has happened in these situations historically?

cool breeze · « **Reply #78 on:** January 16, 2011, 11:35:08 PM »

they probably cancel your order

dunno what'll happen if you order through amazon. I remember getting the Halo Reach Legendary edition for the regular price through a price mix up, but that was wholly amazon, not target or whatever.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #79 on:** January 16, 2011, 11:37:12 PM »

I'm not expecting a PS3, but maybe a courtesy credit or something. I guess I will click buy

cool breeze · « **Reply #80 on:** January 16, 2011, 11:39:50 PM »

people on gaf are saying that will happen, but again, it is still connected with Target. I think the thing to say is that there isn't reason not to. Worst case is that it turns out to be the gun and they switch the order, then you just cancel it since it isn't out yet.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #81 on:** January 16, 2011, 11:40:01 PM »

Year of the PS3 continues!

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #82 on:** January 17, 2011, 12:54:53 AM »

Quote from: Smooth Groove on January 16, 2011, 11:40:01 PM

Year of the PS3 continues!

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maxy · « **Reply #83 on:** January 17, 2011, 05:00:10 AM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 15, 2011, 04:07:55 AM

Quote from: maxy on January 15, 2011, 03:18:11 AM
If somebody is interested in UK 2010 stuff

Online MCV mag
http://62.128.151.219/A1qndr/MCV140111/resources/index.htm

Tons of data there,
top 50,various gaming related percentages,movie industry percentages,article about Capcom saying that smartphones have taken place of the DS,PSP and PC,etc

So-so read but the data was good. Not surprised to see the head of Capcom's mobile division talking up smartphones over dedicated gaming devices and PCs, but it's a bit embarrassing she opted to use Smurf's Village to highlight her points.

Yeah,not surprising at all,lots of Capcom support for iPhone.Even Bethesda is "thinking" to do something with it,not even a mention of 3DS,PS2 in the latest interview.They did plan to release Oblivion on PSP,but that got canned.Good thing is that they might do something "unique".
I think that lots of western devs are the same...portable GTA iPhone exclusive,oh well

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

Quite interesting jrpg description...

maxy · « **Reply #84 on:** January 17, 2011, 05:39:21 AM »

Yeah,but I'm counting on little risk development,something cheap and not too long
I bet that lots of them have iPhone and iPad,dedicated handhelds on the other hand...

Latest iOS devices rumor
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-01-17-ipad-2-iphone-5-have-multi-core-power
Apple is now kinda like PC(or it used to be),but they have standardized hardware generations

Don't see them stopping until they hit some kind of hardware limit

maxy · « **Reply #85 on:** January 17, 2011, 06:11:35 AM »

True,forgot about id(that shows how much they are relevant this gen,still waiting for Rage)

tiesto · « **Reply #86 on:** January 17, 2011, 10:59:51 PM »

Quote from: maxy on January 17, 2011, 05:00:10 AM

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 15, 2011, 04:07:55 AM
Quote from: maxy on January 15, 2011, 03:18:11 AM
If somebody is interested in UK 2010 stuff

Online MCV mag
http://62.128.151.219/A1qndr/MCV140111/resources/index.htm

Tons of data there,
top 50,various gaming related percentages,movie industry percentages,article about Capcom saying that smartphones have taken place of the DS,PSP and PC,etc

So-so read but the data was good. Not surprised to see the head of Capcom's mobile division talking up smartphones over dedicated gaming devices and PCs, but it's a bit embarrassing she opted to use Smurf's Village to highlight her points.

Yeah,not surprising at all,lots of Capcom support for iPhone.Even Bethesda is "thinking" to do something with it,not even a mention of 3DS,PS2 in the latest interview.They did plan to release Oblivion on PSP,but that got canned.Good thing is that they might do something "unique".
I think that lots of western devs are the same...portable GTA iPhone exclusive,oh well

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

Quite interesting jrpg description...

Yup, he hit the spot why I tend to go for the J games much better than western ones. I'm all about the over-the-top crazy wacky shit, the more realistic a game is, the more boring it tends to be.

BTW it was kinda cool to see FF7 and 8 get a shout in the Planescape Torment credits. I miss the days when Americans weren't talking shit about Japanese games and there wasn't this whole west vs. east mentality in gaming.

maxy · « **Reply #87 on:** January 18, 2011, 03:02:59 AM »

Gamasutra jvm posted this nice graph

pilonv1 · « **Reply #88 on:** January 18, 2011, 06:08:24 PM »

poor PSP

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #89 on:** January 18, 2011, 06:28:33 PM »

Wow, 360's late surge in popularity is unprecedented.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #90 on:** January 18, 2011, 07:37:12 PM »

...until you realize its barely outselling the PS2 as that system was dieing and not getting new games.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #91 on:** January 18, 2011, 07:40:34 PM »

Quote from: The Worst Poster Ever on January 18, 2011, 07:37:12 PM

...until you realize its barely outselling the PS2 as that system was dieing and not getting new games.

Which would make the PS3 the biggest failure ever according to this logic.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #92 on:** January 18, 2011, 07:46:12 PM »

Not if you use logic and compare it to the Xbox 360 in the same amount of years, where it's doing almost exactly the same therefore both consoles are "failure".

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #93 on:** January 18, 2011, 07:49:17 PM »

Yes except that one console is a big improvement sales wise on the prior generation and actually getting more popular as it goes on and the other console is doing jack shit compared to its prior generation and not especially accelerating in this one.

But since you agree the PS3 is a fuckton of failure I welcome more posts from you acknowledging that fact and mentioning how shitty its doing.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #94 on:** January 18, 2011, 07:52:57 PM »

Funny, I see the 360 and the PS3 having almost the exact same fucking progression path if you stack it up fairly. If PS3 sells 6.8m next year it would be ap erfect fucking fi.t

But nope gotta twist facts to make it seem like my console is ichibon derp depr im a xbot derp drerp

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #95 on:** January 18, 2011, 07:54:44 PM »

Don't worry. Next year is the year of the Ps3. I'm sure sales will be through the roof.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #96 on:** January 18, 2011, 07:55:13 PM »

derp derp im a xbot gotta twist facts to make me look like my system is the *~!SPECIAL PONY!~* of the system wars derp derp

Brehvolution · « **Reply #97 on:** January 18, 2011, 08:52:11 PM »

Wii won't hit 5M this year at that pace.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #98 on:** January 18, 2011, 09:00:26 PM »

Quote from: The Worst Poster Ever on January 18, 2011, 07:46:12 PM

Not if you use logic and compare it to the Xbox 360 in the same amount of years, where it's doing almost exactly the same therefore both consoles are "failure".

Actually the Xbox360 sold 3.2 million more in those five years.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #99 on:** January 18, 2011, 09:56:32 PM »

launch aligning is tantamount to that most heinous of crimes....insider trading.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #100 on:** January 18, 2011, 09:59:50 PM »

Quote from: Don Flamenco on January 18, 2011, 09:56:32 PM

launch aligning is tantamount to that most heinous of crimes....insider trading.

Launch aligning is useful just for curiousity, you can't draw anything meaningful out of it.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #101 on:** January 18, 2011, 10:43:39 PM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 18, 2011, 09:46:37 PM

I request you stop abusing the dear, sweet English language, sir.

I think he has turret's syndrome.

maxy · « **Reply #102 on:** January 22, 2011, 01:51:13 AM »

I'm beginning to like this Invisible walls thing,via gaf

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Some numbers/info from Invisible Walls again.
100 games sold over 100k.

13 Wii games in top 30.
8 360 games in top 30.
5 PS3 games in top 30
4 DS games in top 30.
3 PSP games in top 200.

No Move games in the top 30.
3 or 4 Kinect games in top 30.

Just Dance 2 - ~2 million
Donkey Kong Country Returns - 1.344 million
Super Mario All Stars - ~500k
God of War Ghost of Sparta - About 100k-150k/roughly 10% as much as Chains of Olympus's first 2 months

GBA - 42
GCN - 2
DS - 2,512,317
PS2 - 75,428
PS3 - 1,209,660
PSP - 428,566
Wii - 2,355,151
X-Box - 0
360 - 1,856,438

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/episode-143-invisible-walls/709693

and again
GCN-2
Xbox-0

iconoclast · « **Reply #103 on:** January 22, 2011, 02:35:50 AM »

Super Mario All Stars - ~500k

lol. That's about 600k more than it deserves to sell.

demi · « **Reply #104 on:** January 22, 2011, 05:01:15 AM »

Thats a HELL of a surprising lot. Nintendo isnt reprinting that shit for sure.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #105 on:** January 22, 2011, 09:11:09 AM »

When Nintendo can sell over half a million of a rom dump you know piracy problems are overblown.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #106 on:** January 22, 2011, 11:04:28 AM »

Quote from: maxy on January 22, 2011, 01:51:13 AM

and again
GCN-2
Xbox-0

GC

naff · « **Reply #107 on:** January 22, 2011, 03:21:52 PM »

Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on January 22, 2011, 09:11:09 AM

When Nintendo can sell over half a million of a rom dump you know piracy problems are overblown.

Hacking your console requires at least a modicum of intelligence, something the people buying this rom dump obviously lack.

maxy · « **Reply #108 on:** January 22, 2011, 05:03:41 PM »

US gaming industry talk,some new Gears 3 footage inside

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #109 on:** January 22, 2011, 06:46:04 PM »

Quote from: quietID on January 22, 2011, 03:21:52 PM

Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on January 22, 2011, 09:11:09 AM
When Nintendo can sell over half a million of a rom dump you know piracy problems are overblown.

Hacking your console requires at least a modicum of intelligence, something the people buying this rom dump obviously lack.

Doesn't change the fact that if publishers were making games the 'dumb' people want to buy then they wouldn't have to blame piracy and used game sales

spoiler (click to show/hide)

The publishers KNOW piracy and used game sales are not effecting the bottom line substantially enough to be of major concern. The actuality is that publishers world wide are not making a profit because of piss poor management and bone headed decisions on a consistent basis. Luckily for them they have such scapegoats, but its a little telling that Iwata, ceo of the most successful publisher, time and time again blames themselves and their inactivity for any lulls or periods of disinterest resulting in lackluster hardware and software sales. Not piracy and not used game sales.

[close]

HyperZoneWasAwesome · « **Reply #110 on:** January 23, 2011, 02:52:33 AM »

its the Wii audience, its the casual, soft gamer audience that's fickle as hell but sure as shit loves the fuck outta Just Dance. In the film industry they've got something they call "high concept", the Wii audience by and large only makes hits out of high concept games, if you need more than a single short sentence to explain it, its gonna tank.

"Mario does more stuff."
"Its like karaoke, but with dancing."
"Its right there in the title, Carnival Games."
"Pretend to get in shape with a videogame."

Its the people that made huge hits out of those games that would buy a really lazy Mario collection by the thousands and be perfectly happy with it, they don't expect much out of their gaming because they sure as hell don't put much into it. This isn't every Wii owner, but it sure accounts for a lot of them.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #111 on:** January 23, 2011, 07:03:05 AM »

Quote from: HyperZoneWasAwesome on January 23, 2011, 02:52:33 AM

its the Wii audience, its the casual, soft gamer audience that's fickle as hell but sure as shit loves the fuck outta Just Dance. In the film industry they've got something they call "high concept", the Wii audience by and large only makes hits out of high concept games, if you need more than a single short sentence to explain it, its gonna tank.

"Mario does more stuff."
"Its like karaoke, but with dancing."
"Its right there in the title, Carnival Games."
"Pretend to get in shape with a videogame."

Its the people that made huge hits out of those games that would buy a really lazy Mario collection by the thousands and be perfectly happy with it, they don't expect much out of their gaming because they sure as hell don't put much into it. This isn't every Wii owner, but it sure accounts for a lot of them.

The rest of the Wii audience uses the Wii as what the paper industry calls "paper weights." They will put the Wii in an ignored corner of the house or even a closet, often discarding the cables on accident.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #112 on:** January 24, 2011, 08:01:48 PM »

And with all those Epic Mickey sales, apparently tons of Disney Interactive people have gotten the boot INCLUDING heavy cuts at Junction Point.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/32616/Report_Disney_Interactive_Sees_Significant_Layoffs.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+GamasutraNews+%28Gamasutra+News%29&utm_content=Google+Reader

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #113 on:** January 24, 2011, 10:05:28 PM »

NO-ONE FUCKS WITH JASE HALL AND LIVES

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #114 on:** January 24, 2011, 10:14:40 PM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 24, 2011, 10:04:58 PM

Quote from: Sho Nuff on January 24, 2011, 08:01:48 PM
And with all those Epic Mickey sales, apparently tons of Disney Interactive people have gotten the boot INCLUDING heavy cuts at Junction Point.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/32616/Report_Disney_Interactive_Sees_Significant_Layoffs.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+GamasutraNews+%28Gamasutra+News%29&utm_content=Google+Reader

Large media company makes large, overblown investment into video gaming and then pulls out a few years later? Well sir, I am shocked, and I for one will not take this kind of garbage from ~~Time Warner~~ ~~Universal~~ ~~Virgin~~ ~~Fox~~ ~~Viacom~~ ~~MTV~~ Disney!

Why do people even take jobs with these kinds of companies? No matter what you do, you'll end up out on your arse sooner or later. Next up, Warner Brothers Interactive Entertainment!

The thing is all these companies think they will become the next EA or Activision but none of them are willing to stomach the losses that it would take to get there. They get in because they think they have some hot franchise and the franchise is never as hot as they've talked themselves into.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #115 on:** January 24, 2011, 10:29:12 PM »

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Large media company makes large, overblown investment into video gaming and then pulls out a few years later? Well sir, I am shocked, and I for one will not take this kind of garbage from ~~Time Warner~~ ~~Universal~~ ~~Virgin~~ ~~Fox~~ ~~Viacom~~ ~~MTV~~ Disney!

Why do people even take jobs with these kinds of companies? No matter what you do, you'll end up out on your arse sooner or later. Next up, Warner Brothers Interactive Entertainment!

pilonv1 · « **Reply #116 on:** January 24, 2011, 10:44:52 PM »

I wonder what expectations they must have had for a third party Wii exclusive? 10million?

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #117 on:** January 24, 2011, 10:49:27 PM »

I think Just Dance numbers are the plateau.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #118 on:** January 24, 2011, 10:50:52 PM »

I think Just Dance is the exception to the rule.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #119 on:** January 24, 2011, 11:44:46 PM »

Guitar Hero 3 did pretty damn well, and it wasn't even exclusive! I think thats it, bar Red Steel lol.

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Author Topic: December 2010 NPD thread(EU sales numbers inside) (Read 16305 times)