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Shaka Khan

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« Reply #24060 on: July 03, 2012, 11:01:44 PM »
Exactly :lol
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« Reply #24061 on: July 03, 2012, 11:54:16 PM »
I actually prefer the super excited full distinguished mentally-challenged fellow fan than the dull annoyance that Truth and the like are. The super fan has the potential to be accidentally hilarious

like Mpl.

He's like Andrex's distinguished mentally-challenged little brother.


As for the suicide thing i'm not a fan of that but i won't do the "suck it up and deal with it bitch" thing either.
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« Reply #24062 on: July 04, 2012, 12:02:16 AM »
Mpl can be gleefully annoying sometime, but I kinda like him, sale-age boner and all. He's just not as shady or bitter as the others.
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« Reply #24063 on: July 04, 2012, 12:17:05 AM »
"How can he not think of his loved ones? How can he not think of hell where he will eternally be condemned and bound to? How can he not think of..." - Bitch, someone who's on the verge of suicide can't "think" straight to begin with. That's the source of the problem.
Yeah, exactly. As someone who's had to deal with this sort of thing with a loved one, these threads are downright offensive to me, and I really just don't go into them. Bunch of idiots in there :/.

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« Reply #24064 on: July 04, 2012, 12:25:14 AM »
As someone who's been on the dregs of depression, yeah, nothing pisses me off more than people saying how selfish suicide is or that you can will yourself into a better state of mind just like, magically.  Its something that's beyond rationality, a pervasive feeling you can't wish away but oh if you could you would.  But you can't usually, and it takes a lot of time and patience and sometimes people just don't have the ability to effectively deal with it.  I think it comes down to many people think it somehow discourages people from suicidal thoughts by trying to guilt trip them somehow, which is absolutely one of the worst ways you can try to convince someone not to kill themselves.
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« Reply #24065 on: July 04, 2012, 12:36:11 AM »
Eh, suicide is a horrible thing. I wouldn't feel comfortable talking about it on GAF of all places as it has left a huge mark on my life.

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« Reply #24066 on: July 04, 2012, 01:03:18 AM »
Ladies and Gents, I made a huge mistake.  I went outside of the suicide thread and found this thread:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=481101

Sounds good because Amazon has amazing deals that nobody ever really talks about.  I've purchased shitloads of albums from them for next to nothing.  iTunes is a huge rip off generally but between the occasional deals they have plus Amazon, my days of music piracy ended a while back.

Then I came across this post: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=39492499&postcount=66

For some reason, I got more pissed off at this than I should.  My mind just gets blown away by how everything needs to be treated with foaming at the mouth outrage over every little thing.  Even SA has been riddled with sanctimonious outrage recently as well.  I don't really like to take the internet too seriously but with all of the constant outrage I see going on, I just wonder if I'm outgrowing forum discussions in general.  I think this board is the true oasis from e-blackout rage. 
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« Reply #24067 on: July 04, 2012, 01:52:10 AM »
Ladies and Gents, I made a huge mistake.  I went outside of the suicide thread and found this thread:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=481101

Sounds good because Amazon has amazing deals that nobody ever really talks about.  I've purchased shitloads of albums from them for next to nothing.  iTunes is a huge rip off generally but between the occasional deals they have plus Amazon, my days of music piracy ended a while back.

Then I came across this post: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=39492499&postcount=66

For some reason, I got more pissed off at this than I should.  My mind just gets blown away by how everything needs to be treated with foaming at the mouth outrage over every little thing.  Even SA has been riddled with sanctimonious outrage recently as well.  I don't really like to take the internet too seriously but with all of the constant outrage I see going on, I just wonder if I'm outgrowing forum discussions in general.  I think this board is the true oasis from e-blackout rage.

SA has been unbearable lately.
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« Reply #24068 on: July 04, 2012, 01:56:06 AM »
The world is about to end and the people are reacting. Tough times ahead.
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« Reply #24069 on: July 04, 2012, 02:04:22 AM »

Momo

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« Reply #24070 on: July 04, 2012, 02:16:06 AM »
Well me and Himuro have been vocally outraged at outrage posters here :lol

Those people really are the worst though, they ruin everything and anything they can.

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« Reply #24071 on: July 04, 2012, 02:28:44 AM »
Well me and Himuro have been vocally outraged at outrage posters here :lol

Those people really are the worst though, they ruin everything and anything they can.

what are you talkin about
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« Reply #24072 on: July 04, 2012, 02:53:05 AM »
You're the only other person I can remember speaking out against OUTRAGE posters as much as I have recently. ofc we didnt actually get outraged

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« Reply #24073 on: July 04, 2012, 02:59:06 AM »
The world is about to end and the people are reacting. Tough times ahead.
I have a foetal theory about the Internet and its learning of some sort of circadian rhythm, but not exactly. I've noticed that there is a definite ebb and flow with specific collective behaviour in the ether, which seems to be rather like the bush-fire/crowd psychology thing. It's a bit like a jellyfish.

The opinions on suicide are usually as such until experience is gleaned, pretty much like everything in life, but that doesn't stop distinguished mentally-challenged views being expectorated.

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« Reply #24074 on: July 04, 2012, 05:26:36 AM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=481164

It's time like these where my tag is ridiculously fitting and since I'm drunk I was totally oblivious to it too.

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« Reply #24075 on: July 04, 2012, 05:32:34 AM »
His animu pillows were threatened. It was only a matter of time before he started retaliating and standing up to.

Edit: and now he's banned. Good going feminists. I wonder what are you're going to ruin next.
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« Reply #24076 on: July 04, 2012, 05:41:43 AM »
His animu pillows were threatened. It was only a matter of time before he started retaliating and standing up to.

Edit: and now he's banned. Good going feminists. I wonder what are you're going to ruin next.

Plotting that now...

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« Reply #24077 on: July 04, 2012, 05:44:17 AM »
I don't see why he got banned. He asked a valid question, can't these people stop whining about their problems and just accept that's how life is and get over it already?

There are far more important issues for the gaming media to cover, we still don't know how much more powerful and revolutionary the Wii U and its controller are yet.

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« Reply #24078 on: July 04, 2012, 06:00:38 AM »
I don't see why he got banned. He asked a valid question, can't these people stop whining about their problems and just accept that's how life is and get over it already?

There are far more important issues for the gaming media to cover, we still don't know how much more powerful and revolutionary the Wii U and its controller are yet.

Hahaha. <3.

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« Reply #24079 on: July 04, 2012, 07:16:09 AM »
eh. people should just learn to avoid topics they don't want to discuss/troll

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« Reply #24080 on: July 04, 2012, 07:19:45 AM »
eh. people should just learn to avoid topics they don't want to discuss/troll
But they might be posting THEIR opinion without knowing mine.

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« Reply #24081 on: July 04, 2012, 07:21:39 AM »
eh. people should just learn to avoid topics they don't want to discuss/troll
But they might be posting THEIR opinion without knowing mine.
They wasted 2 minutes replying whereas you invested that 2 mins into an extended fap session. There. You have won.

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« Reply #24082 on: July 04, 2012, 09:44:22 AM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=481164

It's time like these where my tag is ridiculously fitting and since I'm drunk I was totally oblivious to it too.

 :lol

I knew I recognised his name so I searched his topics and found what it was that put him on my "dipshit" list: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=473744
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« Reply #24083 on: July 04, 2012, 11:36:51 AM »
Isn't Tears for Fears that misanthropic guy who actively wishes for something to wipe out humanity?
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« Reply #24084 on: July 04, 2012, 11:38:30 AM »
I knew I recognised his name so I searched his topics and found what it was that put him on my "dipshit" list: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=473744

"A hitman kills for his job, shows none of those traits, but comes home and is a good father and family man."

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« Reply #24085 on: July 04, 2012, 01:35:08 PM »
blame space shoots, misses
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=39503514&postcount=61

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« Reply #24086 on: July 04, 2012, 02:31:01 PM »
Isn't Tears for Fears that misanthropic guy who actively wishes for something to wipe out humanity?
Yeah. Seeing a guy like that whine about feminism ruining gaming is kinda funny to me.

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« Reply #24087 on: July 04, 2012, 03:19:55 PM »
blame space shoots, misses
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=39503514&postcount=61

Officially dead to me
It's weird to see blame space being serious about hating someone. He doesn't seem like the kind of guy that would be serious about something on the internet never mind holding a vendetta against someone on the internet who he thinks slighted him once.

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« Reply #24088 on: July 04, 2012, 03:50:45 PM »
you better not be laughing at the persona series or i will have you banned lan

nope.

I've never played any of the persona games.

I was laughing at the welcome page :P

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« Reply #24089 on: July 04, 2012, 04:35:08 PM »
:lol Demi :lol

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« Reply #24090 on: July 04, 2012, 05:50:43 PM »
you better not be laughing at the persona series or i will have you banned lan

nope.

I've never played any of the persona games.

I was laughing at the welcome page :P

what the? you need to get on that shit. and the smt series too.

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« Reply #24091 on: July 04, 2012, 06:00:55 PM »
Swear to god gaming is the medium with the worst bunch of people when it comes to actually critiquing the art form. They have something so personally invested in it, like their identity, so to criticize anything they like begets a metldown or childish arguments that literally amount to "nuh uh." I see it in console discussions, game discussions, and overall story/design discussions. It's the most annoying fucking thing and it certainly doesn't help the medium grow or become "mature" enough to be taken seriously by outsiders. Gamers truly are their own worst enemy.

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« Reply #24092 on: July 04, 2012, 06:03:34 PM »
Gaming is not an art form. But that doesn't mean individual games can't be art, either. But as a medium? It's far from an art form.
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« Reply #24093 on: July 04, 2012, 06:05:24 PM »
Gaming is not an art form. But that doesn't mean individual games can't be art, either. But as a medium? It's far from an art form.

It's definitely an amalgamation of various art forms. It's an art. I've never come across a solid argument that would suggest otherwise. I'm talking development wise it's definitely art.

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« Reply #24094 on: July 04, 2012, 06:12:52 PM »
Most games, as in, 90% of them, are about one thing only: fun. Fun is a very simple word, and can constitute a whole range of emotions, but that is ultimately what a game strives to be: fun. I can't say that's art based on the simple fact it contains artistic pieces (such as sprites/models/music). What is the message of gaming? Usually, there is no message. It's just fun. What kind of emotions do video games usually go for? Fun and excitement. If you try to branch past fun and excitement, like, for example, in adventure games which aren't necessarily "fun" in the traditional sense, you lose the game-ness part of the equation and it becomes nothing more than an interactive novel. Thus, gaming is limited in terms of artistic expression, and as such, games are not an art form. But some games could easily be art, but the medium as a whole? It's pretty one-dimensional and vapid and its only goal is to be fun. It's very hard for a game to break out of this very strict set of rules and still remain a good game, first and foremost.
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« Reply #24095 on: July 04, 2012, 06:13:25 PM »
it's a craft
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« Reply #24096 on: July 04, 2012, 06:15:05 PM »
I don't like the games = art discussion because it inevitably boils down to fanboy preferences.  Nintendo fanboys in particular.  No thanks :yuck
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« Reply #24097 on: July 04, 2012, 06:15:11 PM »
Frod: Definitely.
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Himu

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« Reply #24098 on: July 04, 2012, 06:17:56 PM »
Like, I consider Silent Hill 2 art. But is it a good game? If I'm arguing gameplay mechanics? No.

Good game > artistic expression
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« Reply #24099 on: July 04, 2012, 06:20:39 PM »
Most games, as in, 90% of them, are about one thing only: fun. Fun is a very simple word, and can constitute a whole range of emotions, but that is ultimately what a game strives to be: fun. I can't say that's art based on the simple fact it contains artistic pieces (such as sprites/models/music). What is the message of gaming? Usually, there is no message. It's just fun. What kind of emotions do video games usually go for? Fun and excitement. If you try to branch past fun and excitement, like, for example, in adventure games which aren't necessarily "fun" in the traditional sense, you lose the game-ness part of the equation and it becomes nothing more than an interactive novel. Thus, gaming is limited in terms of artistic expression, and as such, games are not an art form. But some games could easily be art, but the medium as a whole? It's pretty one-dimensional and vapid and its only goal is to be fun. It's very hard for a game to break out of this very strict set of rules and still remain a good game, first and foremost.

It doesn't need an intrinsic message to be art otherwise all forms of entertainment would be substitute to the same denial. It's art to me. The fact that the first and foremost goal is fun doesn't change the implementation of story, color choices, camera perspectives, modeling, rendering, etc. The fact that people take a hold of it and get immersed in it makes it art. The various choices in order to keep the gamer interested and chugging along is art. It's definitely art but we're getting off my main gripe that it cannot be critiqued on a level you and I could discuss a Pollack painting or even Epson models when it comes to printing because the demographic is so fucked up.

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« Reply #24100 on: July 04, 2012, 08:19:37 PM »
Games are like, the fast food of art. That doesn't mean they don't take skill to craft, because they do, just like how it takes skill to craft an awesome burger.

The problem with game nerds is that they consider X-Men: Days of Future Past to be the height of artistic expression, and not like, the Mona Lisa or something. I saw this in every fucking art class I took, even dabbled in it myself. And I don't think I look like a snob when I say this, either.

Games are toys. You'd see this if you watched last E3.
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« Reply #24101 on: July 04, 2012, 09:39:38 PM »
The art of vidya is in game design, though there's lots of art that goes into making them. Games involve craft, art, and science in the process of their creation. Not all games have to be artistic though. It's not like there hasn't been craft and commercialism within painting.

Then there are people who get offended by even broaching the subject of art when it comes videogames. Just as I feel there is no need to demand art of every game, I feel there is no need to box gaming away from the art discussion.

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« Reply #24102 on: July 04, 2012, 09:41:58 PM »
IMO, games have art in them. Music, storyline, art direction, character art, etc. The rest is technical power, coding, and I'm sure much more. Its combination of more than one thing that creates an over-all experience.

It can't fall under just being art.

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« Reply #24103 on: July 04, 2012, 10:23:34 PM »
Games are like, the fast food of art. That doesn't mean they don't take skill to craft, because they do, just like how it takes skill to craft an awesome burger.

:bow awesome burgers :bow2
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« Reply #24104 on: July 04, 2012, 10:31:41 PM »
Games are like, the fast food of art. That doesn't mean they don't take skill to craft, because they do, just like how it takes skill to craft an awesome burger.

The problem with game nerds is that they consider X-Men: Days of Future Past to be the height of artistic expression, and not like, the Mona Lisa or something. I saw this in every fucking art class I took, even dabbled in it myself. And I don't think I look like a snob when I say this, either.

Games are toys. You'd see this if you watched last E3.

It's unfortunate to me though they can't even get the fun factor right in a bunch of games. Or make everything so similar.

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« Reply #24105 on: July 04, 2012, 11:06:16 PM »
:lol
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« Reply #24106 on: July 04, 2012, 11:20:48 PM »
Saints Row 3 is the greatest piece of art created last year and I'll hear nothing to the contrary.

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« Reply #24107 on: July 04, 2012, 11:27:50 PM »
Saints Row 3 is the greatest piece of art created last year and I'll hear nothing to the contrary.

i agree
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« Reply #24108 on: July 04, 2012, 11:28:20 PM »
I used to have various nuanced thoughts on the games as art debate, but I've reached a point in my life where my honest thoughts on the whole matter are "Who cares?"

It's such a pointless discussion it speaks to people having far too much idle time in the brain and no proper outlet for using it.

aka people in their early to mid twenties

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« Reply #24109 on: July 04, 2012, 11:42:47 PM »
i would rather play video games than go look at art in a museum.

video games > art
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« Reply #24110 on: July 04, 2012, 11:51:11 PM »
Both are great for their own reasons.
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« Reply #24111 on: July 05, 2012, 02:24:06 AM »
It's such a pointless discussion it speaks to people having far too much idle time in the brain and no proper outlet for using it.

aka people in their early to mid twenties

:lol love this
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« Reply #24112 on: July 05, 2012, 02:58:47 AM »
i would rather play video games than go look at art in a museum.

video games > art

Fuck that shit.

The Louvre > Ocarina of Time.

Nope.

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« Reply #24113 on: July 05, 2012, 03:07:07 AM »
Does the Mona Lisa have Z-Targeting?

I thought so. :smug

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« Reply #24114 on: July 05, 2012, 03:13:20 AM »
but you are comparing something to Smelda.

Eating my own turds > Zelda

there's no point being proven here
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« Reply #24115 on: July 05, 2012, 03:24:00 AM »
Are games art is as boring of a discussion as Is there a god?

And as grumpy Segata said it's always the too young that want to talk about this shit.

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« Reply #24116 on: July 05, 2012, 03:25:40 AM »
The answer to both questions, Lager, is ultimately, "who cares." Enjoy what you enjoy, believe what you believe. I really don't care about the discussion, but today was July 4th and I was bored so why the fuck not.
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« Reply #24117 on: July 05, 2012, 03:39:23 AM »
A hipster throws a 3DS against the wall, smashes it, covers it in paint and puts it on display.

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« Reply #24118 on: July 05, 2012, 03:41:24 AM »
Happy 4th


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« Reply #24119 on: July 05, 2012, 03:47:52 AM »
Fun fact, my old church plays God Saves The Queen. Its location? Texas? Why? I DON'T KNOW.
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