The Official Psychoanalysis GAF Thread

[nudemacusers]

what's the benefit of a man purse besides looking more like a briefcase?

Backpacks are hard to find in something other than nylon or canvas.

[fistfulofmetal]

i've been using the jack bauer messenger bag for over 6 years. great durable and reliable messenger bag for all sorts of purposes. highly recommended.

 plus anyone who wears a messenger bag over 1 shoulder is stupid dumb. should be slung across your chest and neck.

[nudemacusers]

 plus anyone who wears a messenger bag over 1 shoulder is stupid dumb. should be slung across your chest and neck.

So like a crossbody murse

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=46620586&postcount=300
I did this for you boogie 

[Van Cruncheon]

and digusting collegiate poors

edit: oops, you already said "vagrants"

[nudemacusers]

I dunno if backpacks are exclusively for poor people :p

http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/fashion/marykate--ashley-set-to-make-billions-off-a-backpack-20111006-1lbht.html

[fistfulofmetal]

worse than actual backpacks?

[jiji]

I see grown men wearing those sometimes. Something is really wrong with that.

[nudemacusers]

How does one use that exactly?

[brawndolicious]

Put it on your back and bike too fast for anybody to see you.

[TakingBackSunday]

to be fair, yeah, those are the most handy for when your biking

[Vertigo]

What with Sony near-death and Nintendo flailing around hopelessly, it hasn't felt this good for SEGA fans in a long time.   

Sega cancelled Bayo 2, Nintendo saved it. Nintendo still wins.

You haven't played the first Bayonetta, and we don't even know if the second one is going to be any good.

Is this true Andrex?

[benjipwns]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=46624704&postcount=542

Voting with wallets and boycotting region-locked platforms, done by even the entire minority of people who would import games, would not make a measureable impact simply because that population is small. Consequently, the "protection" given by region-locking is negligible to the point of the practice doing nothing more than aggravating the most passionate customers whose purchases would otherwise increase.

Without the ability to protest economically, such a minority should and ought to be protected. The large majority of unaffected and mainstream consumers would continue to shop locally, while those interested in foreign digital media would be free to access it. Sales increase, everybody wins.

[nudemacusers]

Region locking games is like racism because

[Purple Filth]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=509030

i love how they just tolerate shit when there are much better methods out there.

now its sadder Sony is acting like a fucking idiot with their product 

[Huff]

somepoint point andrex to that topic. since hes all about a DD only future from nintendo. lulz

[Great Rumbler]

Not being able to recover digitally purchased games is beyond terrible. How anyone can possibly defend that is just mind-boggling.

[Tasty]

The biggest critic of Nintendo's DD system on GAF has been me. I was even warned by a mod about it.

[Cindi Mayweather]

this fucking thread

http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=509004

[Huff]

this fucking thread

http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=509004

http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=46614303&postcount=24

we fucking get it

[nudemacusers]

this fucking thread

http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=509004

http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=46614303&postcount=24

we fucking get it

That line can be taken multiple ways

[Steve Youngblood]

ah, gamers discussing sexism

that sounds like a good use of time to read

Your use of sarcasm is obvious, but just in case you were sincere, let me assure you that it's not a good use of your time.

[StealthFan]

I got fucked over with the Direct2Drive switchover. Goodbye Chaos Theory, FEAR, Far Cry, Dragon Age: Origins, Titan Quest, GTA III, Vice City, San Andreas...

[Shadow Mod]

this fucking thread

http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=509004

At one point I wanted to possibly help to create games and then I just said "fuck it" given how I was treated while I played them. If the player base is like that, I'm not about to deal with it in the workplace too. People want to pretend the industry is better but how many of the people who create the environments in which we feel marginalized become employed by companies too. No thanks. Props to the women who manage to carve out a niche but ultimately it seems like a pain in the ass.

[Cindi Mayweather]

[Shadow Mod]

were they portable games ? /opiateresearch

No lol. They were FPSes and MMOs though. FPSes had the "stupid ugly fat whore go make me a sandwich cunt" types and the MMO had the "oh my god a woman? let me simp on you in game."

Also a non-marginalized group not seeing discrimination? Duh.

[StealthFan]

FPS gets the supposed alphas, MMO's get the shut-in nerds that have never smelled vagina. Makes sense.

[Cindi Mayweather]

Come to think of it, I don't know what kind of game genre isnt even mildly sexist. Platformers?

Driving sims?

Platformers, rpgs where you customize everything about yourself and your story (western rpgs are good at that), and games that allow customization in general ala Saints Row are the least sexist. Racing games aren't sexist either.

[Shadow Mod]

Even games that I don't consider sexist are definitely geared towards boys/men given how you're constantly trying to save a girl, princess, whatever.

[Hock]

I got fucked over with the Direct2Drive switchover. Goodbye Chaos Theory, FEAR, Far Cry, Dragon Age: Origins, Titan Quest, GTA III, Vice City, San Andreas...

The switchover to gamefly? I was able to get my games just fine.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Its a mens world.

Even most movies are centered around males.

[Shadow Mod]

lol that weslash guy got a ban. Did he seriously compare coal mining to the games industry? What a troll. This was my favorite part:

I've gotten quite a lot of support via PM. Might be something for the admin/mods to think about that people feel they can't voice their opinions in the open on this forum.

Yeah I'm sure asserting the same tired old "women just don't like math and science" is really germane to a discussion of these problems.

yeah but Nintendo made a platformer where peach rescues a captured Mario

with her super hysteric emotion powers

I was playing Castle Crashers the other night and I thought it would be cool to play a beat 'em up or platformer in which you're a woman/girl saving some guy. It tends to be the same ol' save the girl/princess shit even with newer spins on it. Super Meat Boy, Braid, etc.

[Cindi Mayweather]

Its a mens world.

Even most movies are centered around males.

this isn't true.

there is an entire contingent of female oriented or even flat out unisex films. how many romance games are there for people who don't want fap to an underage animu moo moo?

[Shadow Mod]

Its a mens world.

Even most movies are centered around males.

this isn't true.

there is an entire contingent of female oriented films. how romance games are there for people who don't want fap to an underage animu moo moo?

Female oriented films are garbage and they still don't outnumber the amount of male oriented films which span multiple genres.

[Cindi Mayweather]

Its a mens world.

Even most movies are centered around males.

this isn't true.

there is an entire contingent of female oriented films. how romance games are there for people who don't want fap to an underage animu moo moo?

Female oriented films are garbage and they still don't outnumber the amount of male oriented films which span multiple genres.

Not all female oriented films suck and there are so many films out there that your claim makes no sense. Many films, some of the biggest dramas, are unisex, or don't give a flip about gender. What male films are you talking about, super hero movies?

[Shadow Mod]

Not all female oriented films suck and there are so many films out there that your claim makes no sense. Many films, some of the biggest dramas, are unisex, or don't give a flip about gender. What male films are you talking about, super hero movies?

Give me some examples other than housewife malaise of good films centered around women. The last few I've watched have been foreign or biopics.

[nudemacusers]

Showgirls and dogville are two pretty good examples of female empowerment imo

[Tasty]

yeah but Nintendo made a platformer where peach rescues a captured Mario

with her super hysteric emotion powers

I need to replay that game, I remember it being Kirby-levels of boring. Such nice pixel art too.

[fistfulofmetal]

the reason media is primary male oriented is because women are generally not interesting as protagonists. sorry for the real talk but it's the truth. the only time you ever see an interesting female protagonist is when they are assigned male personality traits.

[Shadow Mod]

Also himu explain to me unisex films. You mean the typical male protag driven movie where there is a wife or romantic interest?

[benjipwns]

At one point I wanted to possibly help to create games and then I just said "fuck it" given how I was treated while I played them. If the player base is like that, I'm not about to deal with it in the workplace too. People want to pretend the industry is better but how many of the people who create the environments in which we feel marginalized become employed by companies too. No thanks.

Even games that I don't consider sexist are definitely geared towards boys/men given how you're constantly trying to save a girl, princess, whatever.

Stop getting hysterical, there's plenty of empowering female oriented franchises out there:





And all of them are available on portable systems.

[Shadow Mod]

I can just imagine getting hired and then being told "here's your new project: Barbie Horse Adventures 2."

[Broseidon]

Wow that thread is massively distinguished mentally-challenged. Now it's just basically MRA bullshit *yawn*

[StealthFan]

I got fucked over with the Direct2Drive switchover. Goodbye Chaos Theory, FEAR, Far Cry, Dragon Age: Origins, Titan Quest, GTA III, Vice City, San Andreas...

The switchover to gamefly? I was able to get my games just fine.

I wasn't. My gamefly email is seperate from my D2D email. Can't log in and get my games.

[nudemacusers]

Don't forget style savvy!

[Shadow Mod]

http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=508949

Your standards are hilarious high.
No yours are shit.
You're such a virgin.
You'd fuck anything you're so desperate.

C'est la vie.

[benjipwns]

Note that it's not Boutique Employee. It's Boutique OWNER. "Run your OWN STORE!"

What more do you feminazi's want? You probably won't be satisfied until Marcus Fenix has to produce a tablescape and outfit to match every level.

[Cindi Mayweather]

Your issue is your definition is "centered around women". That is wrong. Centered around women != approachable for women. Many big budget Hollywood films are unisex in their approach to drama, even if they star men, due to how their story is laid out, or how the women are characterized. Let's use an example, would you say that Pixar's Up is not something women couldn't or wouldn't find approachable despite having an all male cast (aside from the prologue of course)?

Film has far more mass appeal than games.

As for your question...

2012 films that don't show women as inferior or might even star women that women can (and do) enjoy:

Off the top of my head

- Prometheus
- The Master
- Goodbye First Love
- Zero Dark Thirty
- Beasts of the Southern Wild
- Moonrise Kingdom
- Miss Bella
- Brave
- Haywire
- The Deep Blue Sea
- Elena
- Marina Abramovic: The Artist Is Present
- Les Miserables
- Magic Mike

Need I mention The Hunger Games?

Let's switch to television: Girls? Happy Ending's? Veep? Mad Men? Downton Abbey? I can go on and on about television series' that either feature a female prominent cast or don't make gender an inequality (princess saving, weak women;etc).

You must have a very narrow exposure to cinema.

Then Lager says that film (which includes television) treats women audiences with as much respect as video games? LOL. Complete falsehood. Maybe if you only watch super hero films and sports television. The comparison is video games: where more often than not, women are needing rescuing, fucking, or it's all about guns, guns, blood, and guns. Film is far more versatile in terms of embracing an actual ideas than games as a medium.

Since we're talking about games versus film, tell the video game equivalent Adele, Cowbell, Lager?

[Cerveza mas fina]

I never said film treats females like videogames, where did I say that?

Your list of examples is very short.

Also himu explain to me unisex films. You mean the typical male protag driven movie where there is a wife or romantic interest?

This is exactly my point, i discovered that most cinema is male centric when i came to the conclusion I only have favourite actors. Thats cause theres almost no good roles for women.

[Cindi Mayweather]

Also himu explain to me unisex films. You mean the typical male protag driven movie where there is a wife or romantic interest?

A movie like Big.  It doesn't have to have a female romance interest. It doesn't even have to have A romance interest. A unisex film is a film that is appealing to both genders for seemingly the same reasons.

[nudemacusers]

The chicks in Prometheus are either blathering religious whiney emotion alien incubators or cold ice queens

[Shadow Mod]

Your issue is your definition is "centered around women". That is wrong. Centered around women != approachable for women. Many big budget Hollywood films are unisex in their approach to drama, even if they star men, due to how their story is laid out, or how the women are characterized. Let's use an example, would you say that Pixar's Up is not something women couldn't or wouldn't find approachable despite having an all male cast (aside from the prologue of course)?

Film has far more mass appeal than games.

As for your question...

2012 films that don't show women as inferior or might even star women that women can (and do) enjoy:

Off the top of my head

- Prometheus
- The Master
- Goodbye First Love
- Zero Dark Thirty
- Beasts of the Southern Wild
- Moonrise Kingdom
- Miss Bella
- Brave
- Haywire
- The Deep Blue Sea
- Elena
- Marina Abramovic: The Artist Is Present
- Les Miserables
- Magic Mike

Need I mention The Hunger Games?

Let's switch to television: Girls? Happy Ending's? Veep? Mad Men? Downton Abbey? I can go on and on about television series' that either feature a female prominent cast or don't make gender an inequality (princess saving, weak women;etc).

You must have a very narrow exposure to cinema.

Then Lager says that film (which includes television) treats women audiences with as much respect as video games? LOL. Complete falsehood. Maybe if you only watch super hero films and sports television. The comparison is video games: where more often than not, women are needing rescuing, fucking, or it's all about guns, guns, blood, and guns. Film is far more versatile in terms of embracing an actual ideas than games as a medium.

Since we're talking about games versus film, tell the video game equivalent Adele, Cowbell, Lager?

I said good films and you give me this list and my exposure to cinema is narrow? Jesus.

[Shadow Mod]

The chicks in Prometheus are either blathering religious whiney emotion alien incubators or cold ice queens

Even Moonrise Kingdom is basically Paltrow's character from Royal Tenenbaums and again, a romantic interest.

[Cindi Mayweather]

I don't see why point an emphasis on good when nothing I listed was bad.

[Great Rumbler]

What about Ripley from Alien?

[benjipwns]

- Beasts of the Southern Wild

I initially read this differently.

[Cindi Mayweather]

The chicks in Prometheus are either blathering religious whiney emotion alien incubators or cold ice queens

Even Moonrise Kingdom is basically Paltrow's character from Royal Tenenbaums and again, a romantic interest.

Romantic interests are not inherently bad nor do they preclude the idea that they can't have female appeal.

[Shadow Mod]

I don't see why point an emphasis on good when nothing I listed was bad.

I simply asked for a list of good films centered around women. As in women being the central focus or the protagonists not shitty secondary characters or tropes. You decide to list movies you think women can enjoy, of course women can enjoy male driven films, that's what we've been doing for a long time. There is nothing unisex about it. Most films you come to accept that the protagonist will typically be a male with a secondary supporting female. Even if she's considered a "lead" she rarely drives the plot outside of being some sort of romantic interest.

The chicks in Prometheus are either blathering religious whiney emotion alien incubators or cold ice queens

Even Moonrise Kingdom is basically Paltrow's character from Royal Tenenbaums and again, a romantic interest.

Romantic interests are not inherently bad nor do they preclude the idea that they can't have female appeal.

No but they generally make the bulk of how women are portrayed. Don't be willfully ignorant here. That's what Lager was getting at and you jumped in like he was being ignorant when he wasn't.

[Cindi Mayweather]

Tangled has a woman as a romantic interest and it stars a very good story about a young girl breaking out to find her true self, without being rescued by a dude for that matter.

Yet by your definition, it wouldn't have female appeal because Rapunzel is a romantic interest. That is...pretty narrow. No?

[nudemacusers]

What about Ripley from Alien?

It's almost like her dialog was written for a man.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Jesus himuro.

Come on, women being relegated to love interests only is exactly part of the problem. Its not bad per se, just way too common.