Author Topic: The Official Psychoanalysis GAF Thread (Read 6219832 times)

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #36180 on:** January 09, 2013, 01:56:39 PM »

Shaking a kid and calling him a taco I think is well over the line for determining do I walk away or do I do something.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #36181 on:** January 09, 2013, 01:57:56 PM »

ok, well, have fun with that. and have fun getting ruffled feathers from words. You win as a monkey, lose as a person who is secure and confident enough to walk away.

brob · « **Reply #36182 on:** January 09, 2013, 02:03:03 PM »

If you can't stand your ground™ how can you call yourself an american?

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #36183 on:** January 09, 2013, 02:11:55 PM »

I was generally a mild bully in school, but there was one time I got my ass handed to me by a black girl that was a year older than me.

I was walking down the hall to my next class and this older girl knocked my books out of my hands. As I bent down to pick them up, she took her book bag and swung it on my head. It must have had some books in it as it made me see stars. All her friends were sitting there laughing. I just kind of picked up my shit and shuffled off.

It wasn't like I was afraid of confrontation or hadn't been in fights before. Just in that moment, I froze because I had no frame of reference on how to handle the situation. It's like every part of my brain was telling me to get the fuck out of this situation as soon as possible.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #36184 on:** January 09, 2013, 02:34:02 PM »

it's just weird that so many people talk about instinct and being alpha in these situations. Um, we moved on from that thousands of years ago. We have laws against that kind of thing because it does more harm to everyone around if people can just throw punches over some name-calling and shaking. If survival and being alpha is adapting to your environment, your current environment punishes that kind of behavior and can completely fuck up your ability to get ahead/survive. And it's not because some guy said "lets make everyone a pussy lol" when he came up with the law. It's because we have the ability to be rational, even when confronted with bullshit.

And from a parenting p.o.v., you would not be doing the right thing teaching your kid that violence is an answer to little situations like that. The day the kid turns 18 (and even before that), he can get fucked over pretty hard if he sticks with that behavior. He also might grow up to be average joe fuckface.

the people in the gaf thread have watched too many romantic revenge movies and seem to have lost track of the fact that they're just movies. it's kinda corny actually...

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #36185 on:** January 09, 2013, 02:39:21 PM »

Uh, we're not that far removed from our animalistic instinct. I mean, we AREN'T removed. We're still animals.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #36186 on:** January 09, 2013, 03:00:02 PM »

the dad did fine too, he even told his son "I'm proud of you for standing up for your friend, but I wish you didn't have to resort to violence"

that's the best sort of response he could give, I think. My dad did the same thing when I got in trouble for punching a bully. He grounded me but he was proud I stood up for myself.

Purple Filth · « **Reply #36187 on:** January 09, 2013, 03:04:25 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on January 09, 2013, 03:00:02 PM

the dad did fine too, he even told his son "I'm proud of you for standing up for your friend, but I wish you didn't have to resort to violence"

that's the best sort of response he could give, I think. My dad did the same thing when I got in trouble for punching a bully. He grounded me but he was proud I stood up for myself.

He did well for standing up for himself/friend but he just chose the wrong way to do it (starting a physical confrontation).

Barry Egan · « **Reply #36188 on:** January 09, 2013, 03:05:05 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on January 09, 2013, 02:39:21 PM

Uh, we're not that far removed from our animalistic instinct. I mean, we AREN'T removed. We're still animals.

Let's take the initial premise that we are still animals. No argument there.

We've also managed to diminish external threats to such a degree that our initial flight or fight reactions aren't really useful the way they used to be. We're no longer in the jungle, and we don't need to occupy ourselves with the question of what's the next thing I hafta slaughter and/or avoid to survive.

But if that's the posture you want to occupy your time within, you'll certainly have plenty of company. There's literally no end to communities based upon indulgent hand-wringing and impotent grandstanding, so you must be in hogs heaven if that's what you really believe.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #36189 on:** January 09, 2013, 03:09:54 PM »

meh I don't care enough to argue anymore, I haven't thrown a punch in like 12 years anyway

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #36190 on:** January 09, 2013, 03:14:04 PM »

If you're involved in a fight at school, regardless of who started it, you get suspended.

I get that the Dad is worked up about his kid standing up to a bully. That's great, but there are still consequences. If we think that guns aren't the solution to gun violence, then why should physical violence be the solution to physical violence?

Steve Contra · « **Reply #36191 on:** January 09, 2013, 03:22:41 PM »

Schools just need to be better at punishing shitty kids, really.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #36192 on:** January 09, 2013, 03:23:17 PM »

Oh I think the suspension is warranted, absolutely. And I'm not saying physical altercations are the answer, but after a half-year or more's worth of verbal and physical intimidation, a message has to be conveyed. Sometimes a pop to the face works.

I'd be curious to hear if this bully stops his bullying for a while, or just find smaller easier targets.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #36193 on:** January 09, 2013, 03:26:24 PM »

sucky parents gonn' suck

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #36194 on:** January 09, 2013, 03:30:12 PM »

That GAF thread freaks me out. I refuse to read it because I'm sure I've dealt with parents just like that at work before.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #36195 on:** January 09, 2013, 03:37:20 PM »

Schools need to accept the fact that not all kids are ready to learn academics. Some kids need to learn how to behave and socialize with others. I bring this up all the time, which drives some teachers insane. Too bad.

Also, I'm sick to death of hearing "they should know better" in meetings. Clearly some kids don't know better (although I agree that there are tons that do), and that's the reason why they've got an Emotional Behavioral Disability.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #36196 on:** January 09, 2013, 03:43:08 PM »

How would you teach a kid to stand up for himself but also not to use violence against bullies?

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #36197 on:** January 09, 2013, 03:46:39 PM »

Quote from: Premium Lager on January 09, 2013, 03:43:08 PM

How would you teach a kid to stand up for himself but also not to use violence against bullies?

Social skills groups, role playing, learning how to make friends, helping to instill confidence. A lot of times once you start acting confident, you're no longer a target.

Most of the kids I work with are the bullies, though. That's a whole different ballgame.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #36198 on:** January 09, 2013, 03:49:39 PM »

basically gundam is Prez

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #36199 on:** January 09, 2013, 03:52:24 PM »

and a lot of bullies are also entitled little dipshits who surround themselves with other entitled dipshits

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #36200 on:** January 09, 2013, 03:52:46 PM »

Quote from: Eschaton on January 09, 2013, 03:51:20 PM

A lot of bullies are just lonely ass kids who want attention or acknowledgement. I think a lot of bullying stems from that, and is expressed in who they choose to bully.

Pretty much. One of my high schools has a self-contained behavior program for kids with significant issues. They're great kids who just don't get it and need help learning what to do.

There are other kids who are truly disturbed and need intense mental health services we can't provide, though.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #36201 on:** January 09, 2013, 03:57:35 PM »

People don't seem to make the connection between there being so many sociopathic and selfish people in society and teaching their kids that they're the little exception to the rules.

violence is bad, but you, johnny, you're batman. if that kid calls you a cigarillo again, just pop him right in the chin to shut him up.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #36202 on:** January 09, 2013, 04:07:03 PM »

I had a kid a couple years ago bring brass knuckles to school. His mom gave them to him for defense. Dumb kid walked around wearing them and taunting kids he didn't even know.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #36203 on:** January 09, 2013, 04:37:12 PM »

Is this a bad school?

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #36204 on:** January 09, 2013, 04:38:45 PM »

Quote from: Premium Lager on January 09, 2013, 04:37:12 PM

Is this a bad school?

No, but it serves numerous parts of the town: poor, rich, middle class, etc.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #36205 on:** January 09, 2013, 04:54:15 PM »

We've got a lot of Jugalos. They're funny kids.

Shadow Mod · « **Reply #36206 on:** January 09, 2013, 05:04:24 PM »

He wasn't being physically harassed and clocked a kid because he was talking shit? Not really in the kid's corner on this one. I dealt with that from elementary through middle school because some asshole little girl hated me. I never resorted to physically attacking her though. You have to learn to let shit slide and let people talk shit without it riling you especially in school when people are just going to try to push your buttons. I witnessed this a lot towards the boys more than the girls. Some guys are just gonna straight up call you a taco to try to get you to fight them.

I guess he was shaking some other little kid and calling him a taco. Oh well, if you hit someone else the law is always gonna come down on you, schools are no diff. Gotta learn to work outside the system.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #36207 on:** January 09, 2013, 05:10:19 PM »

That kid's gonna grow up to be Amir0x. :'(

Steve Contra · « **Reply #36208 on:** January 09, 2013, 05:31:37 PM »

That Sanky Panky dude has really dug himself in over in that trillion dollar coin thread. It's like watching a dog chase it's tail. he's sure he can catch, but everyone else is just laughing.

FStop7 · « **Reply #36209 on:** January 09, 2013, 05:47:38 PM »

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=507498

Anyone who un-ironically utters the phrase "Turn in your man card" is a screaming virgin

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #36210 on:** January 09, 2013, 06:06:07 PM »

I could understand someone freaking out if it were two girls he barely knew, but one being his gf leaves it a head-scratcher.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #36211 on:** January 09, 2013, 06:07:50 PM »

He let his gf and her friend fool around, but he left the room, lol.

Purple Filth · « **Reply #36212 on:** January 09, 2013, 06:21:19 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on January 09, 2013, 03:49:39 PM

basically gundam is Prez

(Image removed from quote.)

So he pistol whipped a student then

Shadow Mod · « **Reply #36213 on:** January 09, 2013, 06:22:27 PM »

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=507562

Dear lord.

Broseidon · « **Reply #36214 on:** January 09, 2013, 06:23:32 PM »

Quote from: Needs More Cowbell on January 09, 2013, 06:22:27 PM

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=507562

Dear lord.

Barry Egan · « **Reply #36215 on:** January 09, 2013, 06:28:17 PM »

Stealth brag? Stealth brag.

Steve Contra · « **Reply #36216 on:** January 09, 2013, 06:48:12 PM »

Quote from: Eschaton on January 09, 2013, 06:35:12 PM

about as stealthy as a polar bear in a ghillie suit

"My supermodel girlfriend demands I fuck her 5 times a day, what do I do?"

I guess the threesome thread is the opposite of stealth brag. Also his girlfriend probably thinks he's in the closet now.

Atramental · « **Reply #36217 on:** January 09, 2013, 06:48:50 PM »

Fucking gaffers.

Treating women like they're mythic demi-gods.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #36218 on:** January 09, 2013, 06:50:35 PM »

Quote from: Atramental on January 09, 2013, 06:48:50 PM

Fucking gaffers.

Treating women like they're mythic demi-gods.

True, everyone knows they're goddesses.

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #36219 on:** January 09, 2013, 06:59:36 PM »

Hey bore,

Having a problem - when I think about my supermodel girlfriend whilst driving my million $ sports car near our 4th home in Monaco , my massive 12 inch cock interferes with the steering wheel. What do you guys do?

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #36220 on:** January 09, 2013, 07:04:22 PM »

Let me ask my fellow members of the 160+ IQ club.

OK, they say you should picture Miyamoto wearing nothing but a skin-tight Pikmin suit.*

*This advice does not apply to Andrex.

etiolate · « **Reply #36221 on:** January 09, 2013, 07:07:10 PM »

I think its more likely a guy clueless to the reality of men and woman than an out and out brag thread. You can't even have the idea to brag without having the idea of women as some mythical creature.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #36222 on:** January 09, 2013, 07:07:52 PM »

Mythical? I know they're real. I've seen them with my own binoculars.

Broseidon · « **Reply #36223 on:** January 09, 2013, 07:08:56 PM »

So CyclopsRock is a libertard? Guess that explains things.

Shadow Mod · « **Reply #36224 on:** January 09, 2013, 07:16:05 PM »

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=507619

*waiting for this one to pop off*

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #36225 on:** January 09, 2013, 08:12:04 PM »

etiolate · « **Reply #36226 on:** January 09, 2013, 08:17:41 PM »

I fought back against the school bully on the school bus in gradeschool. It stopped them from messing with me but it wasn't a pleasant experience.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #36227 on:** January 09, 2013, 08:40:38 PM »

They shoved your head up your ass and you were unable to pull it out ever since?

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #36228 on:** January 09, 2013, 08:41:29 PM »

I've never been bullied. In fact I'm pretty sure I was a sort of a bully in elementary school.

Shadow Mod · « **Reply #36229 on:** January 09, 2013, 08:45:06 PM »

Sometimes learning about the home life of a bully or prankster makes you pity instead of hate them.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #36230 on:** January 09, 2013, 08:46:47 PM »

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on January 09, 2013, 08:41:29 PM

I've never been bullied. In fact I'm pretty sure I was a sort of a bully in elementary school.

Those poor girls.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #36231 on:** January 09, 2013, 08:47:54 PM »

Didn't you pin some poor girl down and fart in her face, fistful?

etiolate · « **Reply #36232 on:** January 09, 2013, 08:48:37 PM »

Quote from: Shaka Khan on January 09, 2013, 08:40:38 PM

They shoved your head up your ass and you were unable to pull it out ever since?

You got probs that having nothing to do with me.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #36233 on:** January 09, 2013, 08:49:53 PM »

Quote from: Needs More Cowbell on January 09, 2013, 08:45:06 PM

Sometimes learning about the home life of a bully or prankster makes you pity instead of hate them.

Several of my bullies came from much happier (not difficult) and wealthier homes than I did. $:-\$

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #36234 on:** January 09, 2013, 08:52:17 PM »

Quote from: Shaka Khan on January 09, 2013, 08:47:54 PM

Didn't you pin some poor girl down and fart in her face, fistful?

her face was begging for it. she shouldn't have been wearing that dress

etiolate · « **Reply #36235 on:** January 09, 2013, 09:10:13 PM »

Bullying was pretty much an accepted part of schooling.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #36236 on:** January 09, 2013, 09:11:12 PM »

My grade-seven teacher allowed bullying to happen in class. When punished, the bullies went to the office for five minutes and got a note. If the bullying continued, their parents had to come in, and they probably said "boys will be boys."

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #36237 on:** January 09, 2013, 09:20:36 PM »

Quote from: AWESOM-O on January 09, 2013, 09:14:48 PM

and I really hope that a scenario like the one I just described wouldn't result in a suspension for the innocent kid.

it would. no tolerance.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #36238 on:** January 09, 2013, 09:30:30 PM »

Quote from: ToxicAdam on January 09, 2013, 06:06:07 PM

I could understand someone freaking out if it were two girls he barely knew, but one being his gf leaves it a head-scratcher.

That makes more sense than if it was two random girls since was probably feeling anxious about how to do it. Some people just don't like to share/be shared with someone that they actually care about.

Shadow Mod · « **Reply #36239 on:** January 09, 2013, 09:30:39 PM »

Quote from: Flannel Boy on January 09, 2013, 08:49:53 PM

Quote from: Needs More Cowbell on January 09, 2013, 08:45:06 PM
Sometimes learning about the home life of a bully or prankster makes you pity instead of hate them.

Several of my bullies came from much happier (not difficult) and wealthier homes than I did. $:-\$

Then those are just assholes. One of my bullies her parents basically despised each other but they refused to divorce because it's shameful. So they basically slept in separate rooms and she got to see them fight daily.

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