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Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
« Reply #360 on: February 09, 2011, 08:56:37 PM »
who gives a fuck about 3d

I was fully planning on turning it off before the whole battery thing
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Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
« Reply #361 on: February 09, 2011, 09:05:20 PM »
i'll just repeat what i've said before:

if the selling point of your system - the feature you're going to spotlight in all your advertising - is hampered by movement, gives users headaches, and already has people talking about keeping it turned off to extend battery life before it's even been launched...well, it's probably not out of place to say that you may have made something of a misstep
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Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
« Reply #362 on: February 09, 2011, 09:28:12 PM »
bu bu bu Zelda and Starfox 64!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #363 on: February 09, 2011, 09:43:48 PM »
I'm considering getting a 3DS at launch or close to it, then trade it towards a PSP2 later in the year.  Even if I dig the 3DS, there's bound to be a better version within 18 months. 

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« Reply #364 on: February 09, 2011, 10:15:59 PM »
FWIW, Shacknews claims that Ridge Racer plays better with 3D on. 

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« Reply #365 on: February 09, 2011, 10:21:56 PM »
I don't even know why I want one at launch.  I feel like I'll get it for the sake of having it, just in case there is a good exclusive game.  Takes me back to the Gamecube where it's a new Nintendo system, but its up against better thing like the PSP2 and iphone and there is nothing to set itself apart other than Nintendo games...and 3D, but that has no real impact on the games you'll play.  Also reminds me of when I got my PS3.  I have not learned a damn think in four or five years.

And with the DS and Wii, both were a exciting at first because of the touch screen and motion controls.  The main reason I got them was for Nintendo games, but there was the hope that third parties could make use of the cool attributes of each; that worked on the DS, not so much on the Wii.

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Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
« Reply #366 on: February 09, 2011, 10:24:28 PM »
I dunno, though.  I'm terrible at predicting things.  I thought the DS would flop, I thought the Wii was going to have amazing software out the butt, and I thought 3D movies would go over like a fart in church.  Also I'm a SEGA fan. 

you an' me both, man. well, except for the wii thing. i knew it would sell like gangbusters, but i also figured it would have shitty software every nerd would hate. i was glad to be right on THAT account.
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« Reply #367 on: February 09, 2011, 10:30:04 PM »
To be fair, even the experts didn't see the PSP losing that badly.  The Playstation brand looked poised to wipe out its competitors and the PSP hardware looked 5 gens ahead of the NDS. 

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« Reply #368 on: February 09, 2011, 11:48:56 PM »
To be fair, even the experts didn't see the PSP losing that badly.  The Playstation brand looked poised to wipe out its competitors and the PSP hardware looked 5 gens ahead of the NDS. 

Sony fucked up on that one.

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« Reply #369 on: February 09, 2011, 11:54:15 PM »
I dunno, though.  I'm terrible at predicting things.  I thought the DS would flop, I thought the Wii was going to have amazing software out the butt, and I thought 3D movies would go over like a fart in church.  Also I'm a SEGA fan. 

you an' me both, man. well, except for the wii thing. i knew it would sell like gangbusters, but i also figured it would have shitty software every nerd would hate. i was glad to be right on THAT account.

Not exactly, but i guess N diehards don't count  :lol

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Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
« Reply #370 on: February 17, 2011, 12:46:49 PM »
gaf has found some unboxing pics



http://twitter.com/#!/Gamedigital/


and Nintendo has started with their yucky TV ads in UK

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]
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« Reply #371 on: February 17, 2011, 01:10:49 PM »
To be fair, even the experts didn't see the PSP losing that badly.  The Playstation brand looked poised to wipe out its competitors and the PSP hardware looked 5 gens ahead of the NDS. 

Sony fucked up on that one.


Well psp did have a margin ahead of ds at a time, didn't it? It seemed like the combination of the lite, mario kart, Nintendo Dogs, brain training, mario kart and new super mario bros saved the ds.
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« Reply #372 on: February 17, 2011, 01:31:06 PM »
stolen from gaf,only for Japan obviously but it tells a lot

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« Reply #373 on: February 17, 2011, 01:48:55 PM »
would that change anything?
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« Reply #374 on: February 17, 2011, 02:05:56 PM »
well,in that case Nintendo should steal green color from Sony or just patent it
no more green for you Sony go play with your small gray color
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« Reply #375 on: February 17, 2011, 03:01:16 PM »
Wow I can't wait to not waste my money on one of these next week!

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« Reply #376 on: February 17, 2011, 05:10:33 PM »
but think of all the games you could play on it!
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« Reply #377 on: February 17, 2011, 05:45:07 PM »
Oh man a bunch of N64 ports :hyper
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« Reply #378 on: February 17, 2011, 05:54:09 PM »
it plays DS games
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« Reply #379 on: February 17, 2011, 06:05:18 PM »
So does a DS
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« Reply #380 on: February 17, 2011, 06:11:27 PM »
 it's so hard to be nintard  :'(
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« Reply #381 on: February 17, 2011, 06:22:37 PM »
It's okay maxy, you're just not stupid enough.
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« Reply #382 on: February 17, 2011, 06:42:44 PM »
I know there's hype for this, but I really wish Nintendo would have moved this away from DS branding territory (in terms of logo, boxes, etc) and called it something else, like the Nintendo 3DSPLOSION or fuck, who knows. On the shelf, it reads like an incremental update a la DSi as opposed to their hot-shit new pillar for the next 5-10 years.

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Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
« Reply #383 on: February 17, 2011, 06:49:11 PM »
Would be hilarious if Nintendo prematurely hitched their wagon to the 3D train
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« Reply #385 on: February 17, 2011, 08:57:41 PM »
I'm going to make a wild prediction that the flaws of the 3D, particularly the headache/nausea, are going to become mainstream news stories a couple of weeks after this thing launches over here in the US.
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« Reply #386 on: February 17, 2011, 09:34:09 PM »
yeah, but i have yet to read a 3ds preview where headaches/loss of focal point isn't mentioned at least once, and i think it's gonna blow up once these things hit the wild

i could be wrong (as i have been many, many times in the past), but i get the sense that this might be a bigger deal

they can't fix your dizziness and vomiting by packing in a rubber sleeve this time

that wii accident picture of the sullen fat kid with the swollen knot on his head makes me laugh every time i see it, btw!
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« Reply #387 on: February 17, 2011, 09:46:25 PM »
It happens on all 3d devices, you google "headache nausea 3ds"  and all you get is results for 3dtvs.

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« Reply #388 on: February 17, 2011, 09:50:57 PM »
It's just reporters looking at the worst case stuff.  More than the throwing remote thing, I remember people talking about arm fatigue and whatever with the wii.  Most normals don't care about that.  3D is a good marketable gimmick and it will help another piece of hardware to dust around in their house and occasionally appear in TV shows to help you relate to the characters.

Realistically, unless people is really crazy dumb, they'll turn down the slider if they start hurting.

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« Reply #389 on: February 17, 2011, 10:25:15 PM »
I've heard that this was probably to do with having the 3D effect turned up full and it's likely i wouldn't have had these problems had i toned down the slider a bit, so i may swing by Sofmap today again and try it. But the big thing was within 30 minutes i had went from feeling absolutely fine to have an absolute crushing headache - a little after that i started feeling sick. Might be that i've picked something up and i hope to god it's not related as i'd assume there will be something i want to play... we shall see i guess.



All those years in the Land of the Rising Sun has turned the XFE into a weak stomached Nipponese.  :fbm

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Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
« Reply #390 on: February 17, 2011, 10:57:22 PM »
3D doesn't hurt my eyes, still fucking pumped

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« Reply #391 on: February 17, 2011, 11:18:45 PM »
It's just reporters looking at the worst case stuff.  More than the throwing remote thing, I remember people talking about arm fatigue and whatever with the wii.  Most normals don't care about that.  3D is a good marketable gimmick and it will help another piece of hardware to dust around in their house and occasionally appear in TV shows to help you relate to the characters.

Realistically, unless people is really crazy dumb, they'll turn down the slider if they start hurting.
Eel's point stands though.  If the main feature of your device will cause people to turn that feature off, you might be in trouble. 

I don't think that is the main feature, though.  It's a new Nintendo thing, and it has a tactical gimmick with 3D.

It's like how the Wii lured people in with waggle sports and the promise that you can flail around in a vague approximation of a real activity and colors will move on the TV.  But the most popular Nintendo games on the Wii aren't that.  It's things like Mario Kart and NSMB Wii...and Just Dance, which, destroys any point I had entirely.

I think it will go down like this: people buy it because it's 3D and a new Nintendo thing.  They realize the 3D isn't essential to any of the games, and potentially harmful.  They turn the slider off and continue to play Nintencats and dogs.  Headaches or not, the 3D won't be hurting the device.  I think what I'm trying to say is: No one is pass on the 3DS because of 3D.  It can only help sell units, even if they prove the 3D causes eye problems or something.

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« Reply #392 on: February 18, 2011, 12:16:30 AM »
Parents are going to love this making their kids who already get car sickness even sicker.

Or maybe it will neutralise it?
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« Reply #393 on: February 18, 2011, 03:24:57 PM »
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All those years in the Land of the Rising Sun has turned the XFE into a weak stomached Nipponese.

i should also say that i had the same horrible reaction with the V.Boy too (though not with 3D movies)

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It can only help sell units, even if they prove the 3D causes eye problems or something.


i'm guessing that the slider is there because Nintendo are well aware of the issues - as i say , Layton is mostly static so the 3D effect when on full looks really nice - Ridge is face paced and moving and i suspect that's why the 3D goes all to cock. I agree, it probably won't stop the Nintendo crowd buying the machine - but for myself i then end up back where we were 30 posts ago : If the 3D has to be muted or, in worst case, turned off to stop negative effects (likely only in some people not all) then what you are left with is a mildly upgraded DS with , mainly, the same games the DS had. Of course the machine will get some killer titles over time - that's a given - but the line up we know about so far is retreading the same old same old yet again. so for me, the machine because a massive disappointment in it's early stages.


Maybe you werent movign your head as much when you were playing layton?

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« Reply #394 on: February 18, 2011, 03:47:03 PM »
i'm kinda curious but how was dcharlie able to play the 3ds? are there demo unit already around japan or whatever? is he inside trading? ???
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« Reply #395 on: February 18, 2011, 03:49:06 PM »
Interesting, can you try ridge racer with the slider completely down?  Masahiro Sakurai(the ssb dev) said there is stress on the eyes if things are moving forward at you but that isnt the case here.

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« Reply #396 on: February 18, 2011, 03:50:50 PM »
i'm kinda curious but how was dcharlie able to play the 3ds? are there demo unit already around japan or whatever? is he inside trading? ???


February 26th is the Japanese launch date
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« Reply #397 on: February 18, 2011, 04:35:59 PM »
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It can only help sell units, even if they prove the 3D causes eye problems or something.


i'm guessing that the slider is there because Nintendo are well aware of the issues - as i say , Layton is mostly static so the 3D effect when on full looks really nice - Ridge is face paced and moving and i suspect that's why the 3D goes all to cock. I agree, it probably won't stop the Nintendo crowd buying the machine - but for myself i then end up back where we were 30 posts ago : If the 3D has to be muted or, in worst case, turned off to stop negative effects (likely only in some people not all) then what you are left with is a mildly upgraded DS with , mainly, the same games the DS had. Of course the machine will get some killer titles over time - that's a given - but the line up we know about so far is retreading the same old same old yet again. so for me, the machine because a massive disappointment in it's early stages.

oh, I mostly agree.  Anything I've been saying is strictly me trying empathize with normal people.

I personally feel like the 3DS is exactly what I would expect from Nintendo if the DS was called the Gameboy 64 and the iPhone and PSP never existed.  It's disappointingly par for Nintendo and that's alright for them.  Would anyone have been surprised if the 3DS was just a DS with 3D graphics? people would have still been hyping it up like they did the Wii.  Disappointing hardware has become a defining mark for Nintendo and I shouldn't expect that to change.

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About the 2DS game-stretching - are we sure about that? In this video it plays Pokemon in the original resolution.
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Re-reading, I thought the complaint was that it literally stretched DS games out like the GBA could do with GB/GBC games. Not sure what the problem is.
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« Reply #399 on: February 18, 2011, 05:49:20 PM »
About the 2DS game-stretching - are we sure about that? In this video it plays Pokemon in the original resolution.
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« Reply #400 on: February 18, 2011, 05:50:59 PM »
About the 2DS game-stretching - are we sure about that? In this video it plays Pokemon in the original resolution.
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I've posted here on and off for about 3 years. Hi.
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« Reply #401 on: February 18, 2011, 05:54:05 PM »
i hate name changes
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« Reply #402 on: February 18, 2011, 06:29:01 PM »
About the 2DS game-stretching - are we sure about that? In this video it plays Pokemon in the original resolution.
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Who the hell are you?

I've posted here on and off for about 3 years. Hi.

Alright, I was just making sure it wasn't someone with a name change. What's your avatar from?
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Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
« Reply #403 on: February 19, 2011, 12:25:45 AM »
About the 2DS game-stretching - are we sure about that? In this video it plays Pokemon in the original resolution.
#t=2m44s

Re-reading, I thought the complaint was that it literally stretched DS games out like the GBA could do with GB/GBC games. Not sure what the problem is.

It doesn't stretch to match the widescreen resolution.  Sorry if my post implied that.  Maybe scaling is the better term to use.  Dropping some numbers: 

GBA screen resolution:  240 x 160
DS screen resolution: 256 x 192
3DS screen resolution: 320 x 240 (that matters for DS games)

If you play a GBA game on the DS, it remains at that resolution and that's why you have borders around the picture.
If you play a DS game on the 3DS, it stretches the lower resolution to fit the 3DS's higher res screen.  It means the picture will be blurry.

It's not a big issue but you expect options like that.  If you have ever played a PS1 game on your PSP, or any emulator, there are options for how to handle it.  The iPad does it for iPhone apps too, I think.

More random information:  The PSP2/NGP screen resolution has exactly four times the resolution of the PSP, and from what I understand, it won't be an issue there.
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« Reply #404 on: February 19, 2011, 03:58:36 AM »
stolen from Chris





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« Reply #405 on: February 19, 2011, 09:32:47 AM »
3D issues or not, I doubt Nintendo is going to have any problems selling the 3DS.  Even if there were sluggish sales issues, Nintendo will just release a mainline Pokιmon game or remake and it will all be over.

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I personally feel like the 3DS is exactly what I would expect from Nintendo if the DS was called the Gameboy 64 and the iPhone and PSP never existed.  It's disappointingly par for Nintendo and that's alright for them.  Would anyone have been surprised if the 3DS was just a DS with 3D graphics? people would have still been hyping it up like they did the Wii.  Disappointing hardware has become a defining mark for Nintendo and I shouldn't expect that to change.

The 3DS, like the DS and the Wii, is another piece of unambitious tech with a cheap gimmick tossed in that allows people to overvalue the hardware.  The gimmick is the brilliant part because it allows them to get away with making obscene profit margins.  I think Nintendo interprets these new machines as a major imposition, done only because they don't want to be completely lapped by the competition.  If the PSP2 wasn't in the works, I doubt Nintendo would have even bothered with the 3DS - we would have seen the DS last until 2014, like the original Game Boy.
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Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
« Reply #406 on: February 19, 2011, 11:58:16 AM »
Nintendo handheld not selling?
maybe in playstation ecosystem insider trading la la land  :tophat

I also consider 3D as a gimmick,especially since there is no mandatory 3D for devs,important gimmick though,everybody will know what 3DS means.
If any console needed more transistors it was DS and 3DS did that,not as much as people wanted but big improvment.I also think that the gap between 3DS and PSP2 is much smaller than people think,if Capcom can make Resident Evil 5 run on 3DS then everything from PSP2 can be ported.

It will sell because it's a Nintendo handheld,successor to extremely popular DS,it will have Nintendo games that millions are crazy about+big third party support+gimmick that gives it personality.And it has some invisible label that says "buy me,i'm family friendly".I see people of all ages,genders buying it.
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« Reply #407 on: February 19, 2011, 12:21:48 PM »
sure, i think it'll sell, i just don't think it will have nearly the impact or legs that the regular ds had

as far as bullet point features go, nowadays touch screens don't mean shit, cameras don't mean shit, gyroscopes and accelerometers don't mean shit, and pretty soon 3D screens aren't going to mean shit

the tech is noticeably dated at launch compared to other handheld devices, and it's gonna look 10x fuglier by this time next year
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« Reply #408 on: February 19, 2011, 12:44:58 PM »
no one can resist this



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« Reply #409 on: February 19, 2011, 12:46:56 PM »
God, fuck Nintendo. Fuck Nintendo up their stupid asses.
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« Reply #410 on: February 19, 2011, 01:12:59 PM »
I have two pre-ordered for the US release and as its getting closer the initial "NEW SYSTEM, 3D" hype has completely worn off and all I see is a list of shitty launch games I wouldn't touch if they were out now on the DS/PSP and a $250 doorstop that is region locked so I can't play Kingdom Hearts 3D in 2012, which is the only game I care about on the system :\ 

Debating whether to just cancel both or keep 1 on a gamble that it'll be hacked and region free by 2012.

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Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
« Reply #411 on: February 19, 2011, 01:22:53 PM »
My problem with the DS is that it's the first system I feel doesn't offer anything new so it's hard to get excited about.  Almost every piece of hardware in gaming has offered something new and exciting which made me want to buy it day 1 at launch.  I mean DS was like OMG TWO SCREENS, TOUCHPAD GAMING, it was a new and interesting world and I couldn't wait to see what direction games would go on it.  Plus it had ZOMG POLYGON GRAPHICS ON A HANDHELD which was, like every handheld before it, an advancement of visuals in the handheld field and that was pretty exciting.

The PSP was exciting because it was WOW, DECENT LOOKING POLYGON GAMES on the go.  You could play 60fps Ridge Racer Wowowoww, the potential for having real console style games to play on the go was very exciting and the screen and visuals were so sexy.  Analogue stick and cd-quality music too!

3DS is like...psp graphics with a 3d effect and I'm the guy who goes out of his way to see a 3d movie at a theater showing it in 2d for $3 cheaper because 3d effects seem like gimmicks and don't add to the experience for me.

At least PSP2 feels like a proper new handheld.  OMG NEVER SEEN BEFORE GRAPHICS ON THE GO, OMG DUAL REAL ANALOGS = potential for non-dumbed down console games on the go, trophies on handheld games, rear touch pad...curious.  It's basically the traditional GB->GBA->DS advancement line of handhelds so it has the proper DAY 1 EXCITED feel to it.  The 3DS on the other hand feels like it's a repeat instead of an advancement.  It's like if the Wii had launched without motion controls and was just another traditional game system with PS2/Xbox/GC visuals...wouldn't be very exciting.

As a gamer, I feel like 3DS isn't really for me.  Even moreso than the Wii, which at least brought interesting new controls.

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Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
« Reply #412 on: February 19, 2011, 01:25:11 PM »
Why do you need 2 3DS?  9D squared visuals?

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Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
« Reply #413 on: February 19, 2011, 01:41:44 PM »
I wasn't sure which color I'd want so I pre-ordered both and figured I'd cancel or sell one to a bro who needs one at cost.

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Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
« Reply #414 on: February 19, 2011, 01:48:43 PM »
What a balla.  I bet you also take a black, yellow and white chick home before deciding which color you want. 

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Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
« Reply #415 on: February 19, 2011, 02:02:12 PM »
The 3DS, like the DS and the Wii, is another piece of unambitious tech with a cheap gimmick tossed in that allows people to overvalue the hardware.  The gimmick is the brilliant part because it allows them to get away with making obscene profit margins.  I think Nintendo interprets these new machines as a major imposition, done only because they don't want to be completely lapped by the competition.  If the PSP2 wasn't in the works, I doubt Nintendo would have even bothered with the 3DS - we would have seen the DS last until 2014, like the original Game Boy.

I thought the DS and Wii had substantial gimmicks, whatever that means, that gave them different appeal.  DS had two screens with one being touch.  There were a bunch of touch screen that couldn't be done on the PSP or any other console like Ouendan and Trauma Center; two screens were basically useless.  The Wii had waggle and pointer controls, and the second was great and made games like Sin and Punishment, Boom Blox, and all those lightgun shooters work.  Waggle was more hit or miss; marble saga that has you tilting the world is good, everything that just has a digital action associated with a motion is bad.  These were games that weren't appearing on the other consoles (save for expensive peripherals).  I probably wouldn't consider touch or pointer to be gimmicks, actually.

The problem with the 3DS is that it's backwards.  The raison d'etre of the thing is visuals and it fails at that.  It is dated before it is released on just about everything except the 3D screen.  And you can argue about why 3D is great, and I admit that the concept is intriguing, but it ultimately isn't a worthwhile feature with this sort of execution.

Compare it to the PSP2.  Dual analog, multi touch capacitive screen, back screen (???), all them gyros n' motion stuff, etc.  on top of vastly superior visuals to anything else on the market.  Far be it for me to claim something as fact, but I will anyway and say: it is a fact that video games will be better on the PSP2.  People will think 3D makes the 3DS better.  But deep down, as they struggle to play a 3D game with one analog stick, or hold the stylus in one hand to operate the touch screen, or enter numbers to play online, or spend $40 on a $2 iPhone app, there will be a tiny doubt that they're cheating themselves.

So, yeah.  I have the 3DS preordered.

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Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
« Reply #416 on: February 19, 2011, 02:19:21 PM »
I think that some people will sing another song when PSP2 will be one week till launch,i expect to see lots of unpopular decisions by Sony.
PSP2 is will be out in like a year,3DS will be deeply rooted by then,iphone 5 could be out...not exactly the same environment as today
3DS will get some games by then too :P and lots of future game announcements


can't wait to see some juicy sales numbers,next week new Nintendo handheld will be born :bow2

/nintard
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Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
« Reply #417 on: February 19, 2011, 02:21:47 PM »
I'm still not sold on the PSP2 being more successful than the PSP.  PSP2 is going to be the high end PC to the 3DS's budget console hardware, but only with even less software support than the PC.  

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Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
« Reply #418 on: February 19, 2011, 03:09:36 PM »
I'm still not sold on the PSP2 being more successful than the PSP.  PSP2 is going to be the high end PC to the 3DS's budget console hardware, but only with even less software support than the PC.  

/serious talk
bold part is :bow2

I think it will have good western support for like 2-3 years(as long as Sony will be willing to moneyhat),the rest will be totally dependent on audience response.I'm not exactly sure what good means though.
Frankly to me(have PSP,i just play games on it) it looks like a bigger PSP with dual analogs and that is all great for me but i just don't see mass market buying it.In short it will live or die on core audience.

Core audience is hmm
I've seen lots of people praising PSP2 on various websites and those people never cared or posted anything in handheld sections for years and yet they were busy in console wars sections.PSP sections are like ghost towns for years,rare articles about PSP have like few comments tops...
 :-\

It will support CryEngine though,but that just tells that Crytek doesn't want to be left behind anymore.

One other thing,next year someone is bound to make first move in big consoles area,not expecting release but some buzz definitely...the rest will follow  
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Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
« Reply #419 on: February 19, 2011, 04:05:47 PM »
I don't think PSP2 will be successful, but at least it feels like a real new exciting game system.  3DS brings absolutely nothing to the table besides 3D and 3D doesn't really effect gameplay at all.  Like Linkzg is saying, it's main feature is GOOD GRAPHICS ON HANDHELD and yet...the graphics are barely better than what devs are pushing on the PSP these days.  3DS - PSP is like Wii - PS2 leap.