Nintendo 3DS thread

[maxy]

New shipment "suddenly arrived"

Think the 3DS is impossible to find the day following release? While the system did pretty much disappear in the hours after shops opened yesterday (and in many cases in the hours before too), Nintendo has somehow managed to get out new shipments to a number of shops.

As I covered in my launch center mobile blog, the large Tsutaya retailer in Shibuya suddenly began taking pre-orders yesterday, saying that a new shipment of systems was set to arrive today.

http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/02/27/3ds_available/

This one is from the Akihabara Sofmap. They apparently couldn't afford a stand for the sign, but the text is the same. Five people were lined up to pick up the sudden shipment, according to Kaztsu.

 


 
3DS

[Shaka Khan]

LOL cvxfreak got one and his first game to play on it is RE Deadly Silence. Looks like it is stretching though. ugh

FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU

Dreams shattered. No 3DS for me this year, gonna have to buy a DSi.

Dreams restored.

can 3DS play DS game in 1:1 256x192 mode [not scale] ? yes you can

put down START&SELECT button and enter DS game mode

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(you're talking about the official firmware not some flashcard feature right? If so...)

FUCK YEAH! DAY 1!

[Shaka Khan]

(It still sucks that in order to enjoy a 1:1 DS game you have to settle for a less-than 3 in screen size, but that's hardly the 3DS fault)

[EmCeeGrammar]

Some of you have weird priorities. 

[Shaka Khan]

None of the 2011 releases are high on my list, so for at least a year and half my 3DS is gonna be used to play DS games first and foremost, with Layton 3DS here and something else there. How is being concerned about the quality of BC that weird?

Don't tell me you're mostly excited about AR gimmicks and QR codes like the others.

[EmCeeGrammar]

I'm mostly curious about the 3ds to see how nintendo is going to handle their online infrastructure going forward, particularly the wii successor.  Granted there won't be a complete picture until the store launches in May.  I'm just curious if they are going to institute extensive friend messaging, persistent demos, how they are going to promote digital content in a way that gains attention and garners support, etc.  Pilotwings looks fun too.

I guess I just never understood the obsession forumites have with resolutions.

[EmCeeGrammar]

Maybe I take that back


What are gameboy games going to look like running on this?

[Herr Mafflard]

What are gameboy games going to look like running on this?

Some of you have weird priorities. 

[Shaka Khan]

I'm mostly curious about the 3ds to see how nintendo is going to handle their online infrastructure going forward, particularly the wii successor.  Granted there won't be a complete picture until the store launches in May.  I'm just curious if they are going to institute extensive friend messaging, persistent demos, how they are going to promote digital content in a way that gains attention and garners support, etc.  Pilotwings looks fun too.

We have a good idea of what it can do on launch day regarding the online infrastructure, the rest will have to wait until May. Honestly though I wouldn't get my hopes up, as the first signs on the online front is not encouraging.

I guess I just never understood the obsession forumites have with resolutions.

That's because you're a dirty poor ninthing; you don't care about resolutions, graphics, online implementation, etc until Nintendo tells you to.

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[EmCeeGrammar]

I've always said Nintendo has had bad online implementation!  You don't know me!

And most games these days look like either sanitary plastic people in sanitary plastic environments or ue3 plastic mud piles (although I like me some gears of war textures).  Every 3d generation has been a case of this with gaining polygonal yields.  I've always been more of  a fan of the 'good art' stuff or abstract presentations.  Resolution isn't a selling factor in that equation. Uh, deal with it?

[Great Rumbler]

"Icing on my cake? No thank you, I'm fine with just a plane cake."

[magus]

doesn't the 3DS launch in march? why you guys are keep saying that we have to wait until may?

[Herr Mafflard]

And most games these days look like either sanitary plastic people in sanitary plastic environments or ue3 plastic mud piles (although I like me some gears of war textures).  Every 3d generation has been a case of this with gaining polygonal yields.  I've always been more of  a fan of the 'good art' stuff or abstract presentations.  Resolution isn't a selling factor in that equation. Uh, deal with it?

We're all fans of good art. It's just that good art looks better when rendered at higher resolutions w/ a greater number of polygons.

And it's absolutely a selling factor when it comes to 3D games. Well, maybe not for soccer mums and 12 year-old kiddies. But you don't fall into either category do you, Emcee?

[EmCeeGrammar]

I am somewhat of a manchild.  I don't think that's why I don't care about resolution.  Now, you'll hear me bitch about framerate all the damn time.  I'll give up on a game real quick if its a slow stuttery mess.

edit: There is one situation whereas I do care about resolution.  This happens in slower paced fps multi games.  I've been playing alot of goldeneye wii and it can be hard to scan your environment to pick out the pixels that are out of place and kill said person because of the lower resolution. In this case its a problem that effects my ability to play well.  For aesthetic reasons I don't care ie single player games.

[EmCeeGrammar]

doesn't the 3DS launch in march? why you guys are keep saying that we have to wait until may?

The estore doesn't launch until may.  Its going to be the most telling factor whether nintendo learned from its mistakes.

[magus]

oh you mean the online shop where you are supposed to buy gameboy games? wasn't that supposed to be avaiable at launch?

[Herr Mafflard]

I am somewhat of a manchild.  I don't think that's why I don't care about resolution.  Now, you'll hear me bitch about framerate all the damn time.  I'll give up on a game real quick if its a slow stuttery mess.

edit: There is one situation whereas I do care about resolution.  This happens in slower paced fps multi games.  I've been playing alot of goldeneye wii and it can be hard to scan your environment to pick out the pixels that are out of place and kill said person because of the lower resolution. In this case its a problem that effects my ability to play well.  For aesthetic reasons I don't care ie single player games.

Hypothetical question:

Which of these do you prefer Emcee? Bear in mind they both run at 60fps and play almost exactly the same. Or do you still not care because it's only an aesthetic difference?

[Shaka Khan]

The second has a more of a plastic and muddy look, while the first looks more abstract and whimsical. I personally prefer the first.

[HyperZoneWasAwesome]

stupid baka, sprites are always better then some cheap and crappy 3D!

[cool breeze]

leave emcee alone! He seems alright for a waggletron.  I mean, the ones on gaf are gushing about various OS features like  changing icon size on the home screen .  Apparently it's sexy, whatever that means anymore.

As for the graphics thing, 99.9% of the time someone claims they don't care, it is a flat out lie.  No offence, emcee.  Feel free to tell me that art matters more than graphics

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I preordered Pilotwings today.  Pretty sure I'm buying this thing in a month 

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[SantaC]

is paper mario a launch game for the west?

[magus]

pretty sure it's not

west gets wii air sport resort (no no wait i got that wrong i mean AWESOME REVIVAL OF PILOT WINGS!) and submarine game

[Jabberwocky]

Anyone who has it so far - does this thing really not get any more than 6 hours of battery life? the best impression I've heard so far is 5hrs 15mins. For battery life out the gate, that's absolutely terrible. My OG DS got about 8hrs when I first got it, but when everything was said and done, it ended up having about 4-5 hours each session. I can only imagine what the 3DS's ending battery life is going to be (unless it has a "better" battery in the sense that it won't diminish with time. I obviously don't know much about lith batteries).

Someone on GAF said that the battery life will get better as it's charged fully several times. True or bs? 5 hours is awful.

[EmCeeGrammar]

I am somewhat of a manchild.  I don't think that's why I don't care about resolution.  Now, you'll hear me bitch about framerate all the damn time.  I'll give up on a game real quick if its a slow stuttery mess.

edit: There is one situation whereas I do care about resolution.  This happens in slower paced fps multi games.  I've been playing alot of goldeneye wii and it can be hard to scan your environment to pick out the pixels that are out of place and kill said person because of the lower resolution. In this case its a problem that effects my ability to play well.  For aesthetic reasons I don't care ie single player games.

Hypothetical question:

Which of these do you prefer Emcee? Bear in mind they both run at 60fps and play almost exactly the same. Or do you still not care because it's only an aesthetic difference?

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They both look excrutiatingly boring. 

[Sho Nuff]

Some dude on GAF said that going full blast gameplay wise with multiplayer and shit he got 2 hours 45 minutes out of the battery. :/

[pilonv1]

That's pretty good, since there isn't a game worth playing for 3 hours straight

[Damian79]

Some dude on GAF said that going full blast gameplay wise with multiplayer and shit he got 2 hours 45 minutes out of the battery. :/

Was that with 3d?  Is it better without 3d?

[Shaka Khan]

With everything cranked up. I the best estimate for a 3DS game so far is 5 hours, that's with everything turned off/down.

[Great Rumbler]

I am somewhat of a manchild.  I don't think that's why I don't care about resolution.  Now, you'll hear me bitch about framerate all the damn time.  I'll give up on a game real quick if its a slow stuttery mess.

edit: There is one situation whereas I do care about resolution.  This happens in slower paced fps multi games.  I've been playing alot of goldeneye wii and it can be hard to scan your environment to pick out the pixels that are out of place and kill said person because of the lower resolution. In this case its a problem that effects my ability to play well.  For aesthetic reasons I don't care ie single player games.

Hypothetical question:

Which of these do you prefer Emcee? Bear in mind they both run at 60fps and play almost exactly the same. Or do you still not care because it's only an aesthetic difference?

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They both look excrutiatingly boring. 

Clearly not enough whimsy to be interesting.

[archie4208]

History is so grimdark and boring.  There needs to be dragons and giant enemy crabs to make it interesting.

[magus]

looks japanese enough to me

[Great Rumbler]

looks japanese enough to me

Then where's the schoolgirls and giant robots? Clearly made by someone with no understanding of glorious Nippon culture.

[EmCeeGrammar]

History is so grimdark and boring.  There needs to be dragons and giant enemy crabs to make it interesting.

Pretty much, game republic knows what up.

[maxy]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-02-27-european-nintendo-3ds-reviewed

In our test, a 3DS playing a game (Ridge Racer 3D, since you ask) with the screen brightness and 3D turned up to full and wireless turned on took almost exactly three hours to go from full to empty. That's less than its charge time of three and a half hours. Nintendo has at least included the wireless switch and a power-saving screen dimmer to help you manage your juice. On the plus side, snap 3DS shut at any point and it will keep going in standby seemingly indefinitely, even with StreetPass enabled.

On the other hand, 3DS does have Nintendo's most usable stab at an operating system to date – an area where the Kyoto company has lagged behind its rivals ever since gaming hardware went multi-purpose. In both hardware and software, 3DS is solidly and thoughtfully designed, right down to DS compatibility (games play very slightly bordered, but look great, and can be controlled with the circle pad as well as the d-pad).

[maxy]

3DS - 371326

Layton - 117589

http://www.famitsu.com/news/201102/28040933.html

[maxy]

Yeah it looks like 3DS will be media darling,have a good word of mouth(especially when games arrive)

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/291003/nintendo-3ds-review-2011/

He sounds like a nintard,but i expect that other western media will have similar views

Verdict
We challenge you to play with the 3DS for an hour and not fall in love with 3D gaming.

Uppers
  Glasses-free 3D gaming is here
  Real visual depth with some 'jump out' moments
  Visuals beyond any other Ninty handheld, regardless of 3D
  Finding the sweet spot isn't difficult
  Augmented Reality shows massive potential
  A bulging, affordable package

Downers
  Battery life could be problematic
  3D image quality varies when 3DS is even slightly moved
  Photos are 2D layers on a 3D plain

In true Nintendo fashion there's something here for mum, dad, nan and your annoying baby brother. Most importantly for us, though, there's something for the hardcore market - and it's more than a little bit magical.
 

[cool breeze]

Yeah it looks like 3DS will be media darling,have a good word of mouth(especially when games arrive)

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/291003/nintendo-3ds-review-2011/

He sounds like a nintard,but i expect that other western media will have similar views

Verdict
We challenge you to play with the 3DS for an hour and not fall in love with 3D gaming.

Uppers
  Glasses-free 3D gaming is here
  Real visual depth with some 'jump out' moments
  Visuals beyond any other Ninty handheld, regardless of 3D
  Finding the sweet spot isn't difficult
  Augmented Reality shows massive potential
  A bulging, affordable package

Downers
  Battery life could be problematic
  3D image quality varies when 3DS is even slightly moved
  Photos are 2D layers on a 3D plain

In true Nintendo fashion there's something here for mum, dad, nan and your annoying baby brother. Most importantly for us, though, there's something for the hardcore market - and it's more than a little bit magical.
 

yes.  Eurogamer had a positive write up as well.

This CVG one is a bit over the top just judging the pro/con section, seeing the contradictions and comment about how it boasts better visuals than older Nintendo handhelds, as if that's laudable.  And saying "ninty" is offensive and should be finable.

Happy that it seemingly turned out better than expected, but it's also hard to tell if its offhand praise because it's new and different, like the Wii.  But there's also this:

(new trailer.  loud noise at the beginning of it, so careful of that.)
[youtube=560,345]b4j83uymhN8[/youtube]

[magus]

A bulging, affordable package

that's still more pricey than a real HD console

[Bebpo]

Musou is much better than i gave it credit for so far :/

I think lately the musou peoples at Koei have stepped up their game.  All the latest musou stuff has been pretty fun, user friendly and addicting.  Bodes well for DW7.

[originalz]

My only concern is that playing with the D-Pad only is kind of uncomfortable with the button positions, especially with the LR buttons.  I tried playing some Super Street Fighter 4 3D Edition with the D-Pad but it was too annoying getting the heavy attacks off, so I just went back to the slider.

[TakingBackSunday]

[youtube=560,345]iMxRGCyGRho[/youtube]

[Great Rumbler]

Nintendo

[Bildi]

Now THAT might make me buy a 3DS.

[maxy]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-03-01-ridge-racer-3d-review

8/10

[AdmiralViscen]

3D! Dual screens! Dual cameras! Virtual console! Analog slider!

[cool breeze]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-03-02-pilotwings-resort-review?page=1

Pilotwings has wing suits (called squirrel suits in the game).  I take back anything negative I've said about it or the 3DS. 

[EmCeeGrammar]

Yeah, I came here to post that.  I kinda liked the WSR flight stuff and wanted a whole game around that.  I'll miss the waggle though.

[ferrarimanf355]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-03-01-ridge-racer-3d-review

8/10

Well, if Ridge Racer Unbounded flops hard like I expect it to, at least there's this.

Hopefully, Namco announces a PSP2 version of this game soon.

[bork]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-03-01-ridge-racer-3d-review

8/10

Well, if Ridge Racer Unbounded flops hard like I expect it to, at least there's this.

Hopefully, Namco announces a PSP2 version of this game soon.

You mean a PSP2 version of the same game they have been rehashing over and over again since Ridge Racers on the original PSP in 2004?  Yeah, they will.

[Sho Nuff]

I purchased RR7 for 5 bucks and wished I hadn't. So stale and boring and rehash-y. I'd agree it needs a reboot too but not in the Unbounded vein.

[cool breeze]

http://www.siliconera.com/2011/03/01/cubic-ninja-is-the-first-3ds-game-without-3d/

for some reason I thought 3DS games required a 3D option to make use of its gimmick.  The excuse for this one is that it uses the motion controls a lot.  I wonder if games will ever ship without 3D because of technical limitations.

[maxy]

It was in the thread title once,but Nintendo is not mandating 3D.

Smart decision,i think

[Sho Nuff]

I did an extended play session on one of these things at GDC. After about 10 minutes I wanted to blorg up my lunch.

[Brehvolution]

I learned the most about the 3DS by following DCharlie and Jonnyram's twitter. 

[Damian79]

I did an extended play session on one of these things at GDC. After about 10 minutes I wanted to blorg up my lunch.

IT REJECTED YOU!  Take a hint N00B.

[Brehvolution]

  OK

Have a little respect for Mr. 'Nuff plz.

[Damian79]

Obvious joke with newbie spelled with 2 zeros is not obvious?

[Brehvolution]

Context by tone is hard to judge on the nets.

[Damian79]

I really tried to make is obvious.

[Van Cruncheon]

preorder: canceled