Author Topic: Battlefield 3 (Read 56360 times)

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #540 on:** March 13, 2012, 11:52:31 AM »

It doesn't bother me to buy it and play it. If they fix the spawning and add some modes I could see it being pretty fun.

I think what people are responding to is how long its taken for DLC, how few patches have come, and how silent DICE has been relatively speaking this whole time. Not to mention that forum types who play Battlefield hate TDM because their entire chest thumping gimmick has been around how Battlefield is so different than COD.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #541 on:** March 13, 2012, 12:40:00 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on March 13, 2012, 11:52:31 AM

It doesn't bother me to buy it and play it. If they fix the spawning and add some modes I could see it being pretty fun.

I think what people are responding to is how long its taken for DLC, how few patches have come, and how silent DICE has been relatively speaking this whole time. Not to mention that forum types who play Battlefield hate TDM because their entire chest thumping gimmick has been around how Battlefield is so different than COD.

I don't see why this would bother them. If anything having pure CQB in addition to massive vehicular insanity maps makes it even more different from COD. I mean, there is no shortage of differences between the games, and simply having CQB maps doesn't make it COD.

As for DLC... Karkand came out shortly after release. There are three more coming this year. That's not really that slow.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #542 on:** March 13, 2012, 01:46:21 PM »

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The announcement of the next batch of Battlefield 3 expansions couldn't have come at a better time for DICE. The natives were so restless over the lack of news and title updates coming from the studio that some particularly outraged fans were in the midst of organizing a 24-hour blackout to demonstrate their disappointment over the developer's perceived inaction. In reality, DICE was prepping the public unveiling of the most aggressive slate of post-release expansions since the days of Battlefield 2.

But even before the first map pack releases in June, DICE has several other Battlefield 3 enhancements nearly ready for deployment. Executive producer Patrick Bach says a huge patch featuring several requested tweaks is going through certification right now with Microsoft and Sony, and the studio plans to roll out a server rental program in the coming months.

PC players have always had the luxury of renting individual servers and tweaking the game modes to their liking. With the server browsing functionality already in place for Battlefield 3, DICE asked Microsoft and Sony about the possibility of providing server rentals on consoles as well. Surprisingly, both platforms told Bach that DICE was the first studio to ever inquire about this kind of service. After going over DICE's request, both gave the Battlefield 3 plan their blessing. For an undetermined fee, players will now be all to rent their own servers and set up custom game configurations. Want to play ranked Seine Crossing conquest matches on repeat? No problem. Prefer to scale back the maps to only those that emphasize vehicular combat on hardcore mode? It's also just a few clicks and a few dollars away. DICE hasn't finalized the pricing yet, but Bach says they plan to offer different plans based on the length of rental, which can range from one-day events to longer-term contracts lasting several months.

Though most fans will just be happy to play some new maps when Close Quarters launches in June, a smaller subset of Battlefield traditionalists will probably scoff at the idea of a map pack that approximates the intense small area gunfights of Call of Duty. So why go small when the series is best known for going big? Bach says the popularity of more narrow maps like Operation Metro was the motivating factor. Since hardcore fans got their wish with several revamped Battlefield 2 fans in Back to Karkand, DICE believed it made sense to cater to the close quarters crowd with the next four-map expansion.

With no vehicles or large open expanses, these maps will be popular Team Deathmatch destinations, but Bach says all four maps support every pre-existing gameplay mode, plus a brand new one the studio isn't revealing just yet. To keep these more intimate encounters from feeling overcrowded, DICE is also dropping the player count. Sorry PC players, but there are no 64-player matches in this expansion pack.

What these indoor spaces lack in size, they make up for in destructibility. Throughout my hands-on playthrough of the Ziba Tower high-rise apartment map, rarely did I come across a room that wasn't ripped to shreds by bullets. When multiple soldiers are opening fire in a room, the immediate damage is impressive. Drywall, home decor, televisions, windows – everything in this ultra-modern Iranian complex is susceptible to damage. It also features the element of verticality, with the gunfight taking place on multiple floors.

As you would expect in a smaller, Call of Duty style map, the minute-to-minute gameplay was fast and furious, and the maps seem better suited to the assault and support classes. Though you can still play as an engineer or recon soldier, the utility of anti-air missiles, RPGs, anti-tank mines, sniper rifles, and laser designators seems marginalized when battling in such tight spaces. Why essentially equip yourself with poorly fitting specializations like these when a medic pack or ammo packs make so much more sense? Close Quarters also comes with 10 new weapons spread across all the classes, so perhaps the new guns will keep these seemingly less-useful classes relevant. Like Back to Karkand before it, this new expansion also includes additional assignments and dogtags.

If you're not crazy about the smaller maps, you also have two more map packs to look forward to in 2012. Armored Kill, the vehicular-based expansion that includes the biggest map in BF 3 history and new vehicles, is scheduled to ship next fall. We don't know anything about the final expansion, End Game, but Bach says it will likely release during the winter.

Close Quarters is scheduled to release on Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, and PC this June, with PS3 owners getting the maps a week early. Check out the screenshots and game trailer below to get a glimpse of the expansion in action.

The bolded is the part I care about.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #543 on:** March 13, 2012, 02:08:29 PM »

I'm not really up to date with patches, all I know is that they have fixed most of the issues I've personally seen like the Tunguska ripping apart the spawn in the canal map and such. The rest, like the MAV-riding, isn't a problem on a well moderated server. Sucks ass on a poorly moderated one, but then those servers tend to suck ass in general.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #544 on:** March 27, 2012, 10:53:57 AM »

The patch that took forever is finally out on PS3. Annoyingly still no date on PC or 360 but hopefully it should be within a week.

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/news/view/2832654780279541805/

Video of the rent a server options

And some minor balance things

I'm happy this patch is finally nearly here. Battlefield 3 was a game that was released in a fucked state imo just to try to beat out MW 3 and its been stuck that way for months. I finally feel like this is how the game should have launched in the first place.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #545 on:** March 31, 2012, 01:29:35 PM »

Dice Dice Dice

So my PC version doesn't work anymore for some reason after the update. Stuck on a black screen and won't connect to the game no matter what server I join. This didn't happen pre-patch obviously. I'll have to try to research and see if this is any easy fix.

This would be less annoying of course if the xbox version was updated because I play that more anyway but of course it isn't. Dice fucked up the submission and there is still no timetable for when the update will hit that platform.

The patch itself seems to be getting mixed reviews. Some things have clearly been improved and fixed but others say some things are far worse. Like supression is overboard. Tanks have been weakened. Stingers don't lock on like they should, MAV magic carpets not fixed, etc.

Vizzys · « **Reply #546 on:** March 31, 2012, 06:04:38 PM »

anti air missiles literally explode before hitting jets 100% of the time.

QA failed miserably

Vizzys · « **Reply #547 on:** March 31, 2012, 06:11:54 PM »

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #548 on:** April 02, 2012, 06:55:09 PM »

http://blogs.battlefield.com/2012/04/xbox-360-patch-going-live-april-3rd/

360 patch lands tomorrow. Probably gonna rent a server for awhile on that platform.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #549 on:** April 04, 2012, 09:59:29 AM »

Played for a good bit yesterday after the new patch. I like it although I think suppression is way overdone. I never liked the way DICE implemented this mechanic in the first place. And I don't like the fact that nearly every gun fight now is conducted in a blur because of it. Not to mention the fact that it arbitrarily reduces your accuracy.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #550 on:** April 11, 2012, 03:41:33 PM »

I've put in some decent time with the new patch. Its not perfect or anything but its a huge improvement over what came before in many cases. It's a shame the game didn't ship closer to this. I have a lot of friends who dropped battlefield 3 after getting sick of the broken shit that was in the games for months. The best thing they've done is with the weapons. They've weened down the utterly broken dumb shit like the usas with frags or the famas, etc. Lots of guns in the game were simply so overpowered before that pretty much everybody ran with the same shit. And you didn't have to burst fire or anything because weapons like the famas were laser accurate and had the highest fire rate in the game before. Now they've tried to make the guns situational as in most of the insane fire rate guns have increased recoil to compensate for the high fire rate. Wish they would have done this before they added the weapons in the game in the first place but whatever. Coincidentally my stats have improved post patch because I'm not constantly getting raped by bullshit.

There will still need to be another significant patch to fix the stuff this patch either broke or didn't fix like it was supposed to. And my PC version of the game is utterly broken. I've tried a lot of shit but none of it works to get it running. I'll have to uninstall the game and reinstall and all my video card drivers when I get some free time to see if that hopefully fixes it.

Edit: Some people are saying the m26 dart is the new usas with frags. I find it to be not as bad since you can't nuke an entire area with it like with the usas but it probably does need a small nerf. I think shotguns in the game are kinda overpowered period which is why I don't think the m26 dart is over-powered relative to those weapons.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #551 on:** April 20, 2012, 01:00:09 AM »

That sucks. If you get it working let me know and we'll play some time.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #552 on:** April 20, 2012, 03:39:13 PM »

Weird. Have you tried deleting all of it and re-installing the updates and such. I've never had such an issue on a console game before.

Now my pc version has been unplayable since the update.

Groogrux · « **Reply #553 on:** June 02, 2012, 12:48:32 PM »

New patch coming in two days: http://blogs.battlefield.com/2012/05/bf3-june-update-announce/

Close Quarters was pushed back to and street dated for June 30th, even though it already had a street date of June 1st. PS3 users get it a week earlier

Also, premium service announced. Will be like CoD:Elite service. Looks pretty meh.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #554 on:** June 03, 2012, 11:42:36 AM »

Very excited for the new patch. I though the last one with the weapon re-balancing was great (Despite the new issues it introduced like suppression, m26). Also very interested in Close quarters since I like COD for the most part but this will have less of the dumb stuff that annoys me in cod.

Hopefully the patch fixes my copy on the PC which has been broken since the last one although I mostly play on xbox anyway.

cool breeze · « **Reply #555 on:** June 03, 2012, 06:34:50 PM »

Armored kill looks awesome

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #556 on:** June 04, 2012, 08:36:09 AM »

Quote from: The Business on June 04, 2012, 02:37:14 AM

This works for me now and I've been playing on 360. Is there no hardcore mode?

There is. Just tick the hardcore box in the server browser.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #557 on:** June 04, 2012, 11:44:58 PM »

Close Quarters Launch Trailer

New Mode Gun Master

Conquest Domination on one of the new maps.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #558 on:** June 05, 2012, 12:50:52 PM »

I guess it depends on what you come to Battlefield for particularly on the console versions. Maps like Metro are extremely popular (even on the PC version) but especially on the console version because they are full of action. The largest maps on the console version don't work well with 24 people. Armored Kill imo will be a trainwreck on the consoles.

Bad Company 2 seemed to get the balance more correct in that aspect. Some of the large maps on console especially in conquest mode for Battlefield 3 are too sparse when it comes to action. I understand the desire to create maps that actually center the action.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #559 on:** June 05, 2012, 01:22:04 PM »

I like metro for rush. Not so much for conquest. But everybody is different. I like a variety of maps and playstyles.

Groogrux · « **Reply #560 on:** June 05, 2012, 03:21:04 PM »

I dig Metro sometimes. Like Stoney, I like it more for rush.

So I have enough points on my PowerUp account to get a $50 giftcard to Gamestop. I think I"m going to go up there today, redeem it for MS points, and spend it on Premium...

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #561 on:** June 05, 2012, 03:37:38 PM »

I bought premium yesterday. It didn't bother me when it was called COD elite. It doesn't bother me here.

G The Resurrected · « **Reply #562 on:** June 12, 2012, 07:01:16 AM »

Love that premium gets you content for all three platforms

Buy it once and you get it for PS3, Xbox, and PC!

And I of course got it from a different region so it was even cheaper.

Close quarters is awesome stuff.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #563 on:** June 12, 2012, 07:27:12 AM »

Quote from: G The Resurrected on June 12, 2012, 07:01:16 AM

Love that premium gets you content for all three platforms

Buy it once and you get it for PS3, Xbox, and PC!

And I of course got it from a different region so it was even cheaper.

Close quarters is awesome stuff.

I've only played a relatively small amount of close quarters but I'm really enjoying it. I like the decision DICE made to design all the map packs around a different breed of gameplay. Close quarters adds this upclose fast and frantic cod style gameplay type and it really works and it wasn't really there in battlefield before. It's not like Metro Conquest where its all just a meat grinder in about 3 or 4 locations because you can't flank. It's really fast and fluid. Yeah if you're a traditional battlefield guy that only likes battlefield for the massive maps and jets and tanks then there isn't anything for you here. But if you like COD but don't like COD killstreaks then this is pretty damn fun.

Also my Battlefield 3 on PC seems to be working again magically. I just deleted everything and re-downloaded after the most recent patch and now it works for some inexplicable reason.

Groogrux · « **Reply #564 on:** June 13, 2012, 11:11:19 AM »

A lot of my friends didn't like the Close Quarters stuff, especially the Gun Master mode. I actually enjoyed it quite a bit even though it can be frustrating at times. Gun Master brought me back to my old Counterstrike days...

G The Resurrected · « **Reply #565 on:** June 13, 2012, 01:42:34 PM »

Yeah gun master is a love it hate it kind of thing. I love it, but wish it was on the smaller squad death match type games where it would work better. I keep getting into matches with 32 or 64 people on CQ its nuts!

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #566 on:** June 13, 2012, 01:44:48 PM »

It's okay especially for a once in a while thing but I prefer it in a free for all context like in Black Ops versus a faux team context like in BF 3.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #567 on:** June 13, 2012, 01:58:44 PM »

i got premium. gonna play some of the close quarter stuff tonight.

Groogrux · « **Reply #568 on:** June 13, 2012, 02:39:28 PM »

Premium members get Double XP all weekend. Too bad I'll be on a camping trip with awesome friends and a couple of the single ladies.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #569 on:** June 13, 2012, 07:37:48 PM »

played some of the CQ maps.

seems OK. Conquest Domination is essentially small conquest with 3 spawn points and the points capture pretty quickly.

the action is super fast, etc etc. pretty happy with my PC's performance. i forgot how bloody amazing the game looks.

the maps seem OK as well. I'm not really too up on what makes a map good or bad but they didn't seem to be obviously bad to me. i enjoyed my time.

They do make knife kills much easier since you have 64 dudes in a pretty small map. there's always gonna be someone not facing you. which is fun.

Some screens from the three maps I played:

Ziba Tower:

Scrap Metal:

Operation 295 (or something):

edit: Man, if Dice got to make Mirror's Edge 2 in this engine? fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #570 on:** June 14, 2012, 01:40:31 AM »

I think all of the close quarters maps are designed well. I just wish c4 was less prevalent.

Playing on 64 player maps with maps this size seems pointless to me but to each his own. I think they work pretty well with 16. 24 would be the most I could handle. Any more would turn it into a clusterfuck imo.

tehjaybo · « **Reply #571 on:** July 02, 2012, 01:20:05 AM »

HI DREW

ANDY SAYS HI TOO

Groogrux · « **Reply #572 on:** July 02, 2012, 02:59:08 PM »

drew · « **Reply #573 on:** July 02, 2012, 04:28:54 PM »

"TehJayBo wants friends to play Battlefield 3"

btw i liked the part how in the last game when you locked me out of your squad i joined another and led not only them but our team to sweet, glorious victory.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #574 on:** July 02, 2012, 08:29:18 PM »

Sounds like Battlefield drama...

Groogrux · « **Reply #575 on:** July 02, 2012, 11:54:42 PM »

We were just fucking around with you at first. But hey, even I revived you a few times after that!

tehjaybo · « **Reply #576 on:** July 09, 2012, 02:24:22 PM »

Quote from: drew on July 02, 2012, 04:28:54 PM

"TehJayBo wants friends to play Battlefield 3"

btw i liked the part how in the last game when you locked me out of your squad i joined another and led not only them but our team to sweet, glorious victory.

We had four RL friends playing, sorry dude. But when there's a spot open, hop in.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #577 on:** July 09, 2012, 02:51:21 PM »

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #578 on:** July 09, 2012, 03:36:54 PM »

I've put a little over 200 hundred hours into the game. Still enjoyable as hell. I'm not an amazing player but I do try to play in a team oriented manner.

This game actually drove me to play in a clan/platoon although we aren't super serious about it. I just find it too frustrating to play with randoms. This is true for all battlefield games but I feel like this one even more so really embodies the truth that if you play with randoms you get rolled because they don't know what the hell they are doing.

I do wish the game had a Bad Company map pack. That series has some amazing maps that would work great in this game. And the rent a server thing on consoles was a mixed blessing if there ever was one. I like the freedom it offers but the rise of mini-hitler server admins has just been insane.

So sad. So true.

Groogrux · « **Reply #579 on:** July 09, 2012, 04:14:47 PM »

It is so true. Jaybo bought a server for our platoon to play on and I was joking around last night because they're was a guy playing that was killing a lot of us. I kept on saying, "If you don't quit being good at this game: BANNED!"

I never did it though.

The only thing that I would ever kick a player for is spawn camping or teabagging randoms (even though I have been known to do it if I'm drunk or in a really bad mood, so I'd probably let it slide), but even then, that's what the banners are for when joining a server. I really do hate it when admins abuse power though. I've got a friend that does it and moves people around at random and moves himself to the winning team all the time, and it gets really annoying.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #580 on:** July 19, 2012, 10:37:23 AM »

I'm far less of a fan of the heavy vehicle stuff so this particular expansion interests me less than it would others.

Groogrux · « **Reply #581 on:** July 19, 2012, 12:30:30 PM »

At 1:25 it looks like the character is shooting two fishing poles.

Other than that, I'm really excited for this expansion. I think having ATV's will be cool, and I'm ready for this huge map that they're promising.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #582 on:** December 05, 2012, 11:15:48 PM »

Aftermath is my favorite piece of DLC. I love the maps.

I thought armored kill had killed bf3 for me because I hated it, but aftermath is great. The scavenger mode is really fun too.

Groogrux · « **Reply #583 on:** December 06, 2012, 01:12:11 AM »

Same here. Aftermath is definitely redeeming this game. I was waiting to see how this dlc would do before I made my final decision about trading it in at work. I think I'll keep it now!

Not crazy about the crossbow yet though.

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Author Topic: Battlefield 3 (Read 56360 times)