Rumour: Bungie New IP (Destiny)

[Mr. Gundam]

That's high-larious.

Marathon making a potential comeback is cool, though!

[Sho Nuff]

How is it an MMO if they are releasing sequels every other year?

[Cormacaroni]

How is it an MMO if they are releasing sequels every other year?

How is it an MMO if it is not described anywhere as an MMO?

[Vertigo]

Interesting.

Also very canny of MS to tie up the first game as a exclusive. I thought they let Bungie get away relatively cleanly and with little complaint now we know why.

[maxy]

Pass on all 4 games if the first installment is exclusive to one platform.

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document says massively multiplayer style(client based mission structures with persistent elements)

[Purple Filth]

Interesting.

Also very canny of MS to tie up the first game as a exclusive. I thought they let Bungie get away relatively cleanly and with little complaint now we know why.

Apparently one of their perks was getting "first pick" on Bungie's stuff and they will more likely use it and the year to build a foundation for their platforms (360/720)
 

Pass on all 4 games if the first installment is exclusive to one platform.

 

[maxy]

Full contract link for the lazy

http://documents.latimes.com/bungie-activision-contract/

[Momo]

The first Destiny game will initially only be available on Microsoft's Xbox 360 consoles

If they were trying to shoot for another CoD, they have already failed. This is dead in the water saleswise.

[maxy]

Bungie

Well, that just happened…

Posted by DeeJ at 5/21/2012 7:09 PM PDT

So, yeah. While we’re not ready to show you what we’ve been working on, we can reconfirm that we are hard at work on our new universe. We can’t wait for you to see it.

See you starside in 2013.

[Vertigo]

The first Destiny game will initially only be available on Microsoft's Xbox 360 consoles

If they were trying to shoot for another CoD, they have already failed. This is dead in the water saleswise.

It will still sell pretty decently I reckon.

Especially if it's for both the 360 and the as yet unnamed 360 sucessor. (TBH i hope they skip the older systems and put this as a next gen launch game)

It will for me all come down to the scale of the game and from how many people Bungie were/are hiring i'd say this game is probably going to be huge.

[Positive Touch]

Bungie gets another $2.5 million if the first Destiny game achieves a score of 90 or better out of 100 on GameRankings.com,

lawlz

i mean i knew reviews for big games were b.s., but i never knew that there was SO MUCH money tied into it

[cool breeze]

depending what they mean by 'MMO' it could be interesting.

Planetside 2 looks really darn good and that's an 'MMO sci-fi FPS."  Instead of joining matches that last a couple minutes, you join a persistent unending war.  You can drop in, see fellow soldiers going after a base, help them, and leave without worrying about w/l ratio or finishing the match.  Dayz is similar in a way. 

Or maybe like Dust 514.  I'm not clear on how that plays out, but it sounds like it has Battlefield-size matches playing into a larger war on the EVE side.

[Great Rumbler]

Bungie gets another $2.5 million if the first Destiny game achieves a score of 90 or better out of 100 on GameRankings.com,

lawlz

i mean i knew reviews for big games were b.s., but i never knew that there was SO MUCH money tied into it

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/03/15/obsidian-missed-fallout-new-vegas-metacritic-bonus-by-one-point/

[chronovore]

That's high-larious.

Marathon making a potential comeback is cool, though!

That's my feeling, too. But at "no more than 5% staff," I think it's just a bit of wiggle room in the contract, not a promise of things to come.

[Stoney Mason]

As far as the Metacritic thing, devs and the media get all fussed about it, but personally I don't really have an issue. You need some metric to determine quality. There are arguably better ways to do it of course. But devs always think whatever they put out was quality work and warranted a great bonus. Any alternative system they would have a problem with too.

The thing I also like about this contract leaking is that it puts a business face on a critical and media darling like Bungie which I think is the more proper way to view these companies rather than as Santa Claus. Here you clearly see a 10 year business plan laid out in real terms and what that means. It's a lot more like how the movie industry handles stuff. Where as gamers still cling to this idea of fake surprises and pretending its a big deal. I wish more companies business plans were this upfront.
 

[Sho Nuff]

Am I the only one who sees this contract as heavily stacked in Acti's favor?

It's just weird because when Bungie was leaving MS they were high-falootin' like they could basically write their own contracts with whomever they wished.

[Vertigo]

Well in all seriousness the choices were EA or Activision. EA supposedly balked at some of Bungies demands Acti didn't.

[Great Rumbler]

Am I the only one who sees this contract as heavily stacked in Acti's favor?

It's just weird because when Bungie was leaving MS they were high-falootin' like they could basically write their own contracts with whomever they wished.

Isn't Kotick an extremely good higher-up manager from some non-gaming related company? Like some banking CEO or something?

No. He's been involved with Commodore International, Leisure Concepts/4Kids Entertainment, Activision, International Consumer Technologies, Yahoo!, and most recently The Coca-Cola Company.

As far as the Metacritic thing, devs and the media get all fussed about it, but personally I don't really have an issue. You need some metric to determine quality. There are arguably better ways to do it of course. But devs always think whatever they put out was quality work and warranted a great bonus. Any alternative system they would have a problem with too.

I don't know, I just think they should use a method other than one largely dependent on how much the publisher spends on marketing.

[Sho Nuff]

I heard one of my coworkers hooting in laughter, and apparently he got to a part of the Bungie contract where they forbid Valve, Epic, or Gearbox from working on the expansion DLCs

Yeah, as if