Nintendo 360 console thread(GI rumor:possible final name...Nintendo)

[pilonv1]

I don't understand 512mb system memory but 1gb of video memory. Extra video memory isn't needed

As the 360 shows, you can use GDDR for standard system processes as well as graphics (it only has 512 GDDR), it's pretty standard in game dev now from what I understand since 360 did it. If those specs are true I think it looks pretty damn good, and the extra XDR2 is a nice touch.

360 memory was unified, this says no such thing and is 512mb system + 1gb video.

[maxy]

There is one more thing with those "specs"

Devkit 1.3

Devkits usually have more memory and bigger storage.

Unless Cafe is only 256MB ram 

That would be hilarious.

[TakingBackSunday]

come at me, bro

[naff]

Speculation is always fun, bleeding edge console hardware is a thing of the past. Anyone who expected Nintendo to go balls to the wall with hardware releasing the console at a stupid pricepoint and/or with dodgy/unproven hardware to save on cash and selling at a loss for years repeating Sony and Microsofts mistakes.... well. You're SILLY!  This is a game console for poor Ninfags. Your dream console is available TODAY Kosma, it's called a personal computer.

[Phoenix Dark]

[Vizzys]

dont ruin the fifth element for me

[pilonv1]

thats terrible

[demi]

That image is amazing... haha. RUBAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[Phoenix Dark]

The next few years will be so hilarious.

MW4 for Xbox720, PS4. MW: Something Something Chronicles, Cafe exclusive

[Shaka Khan]

Yeah, I like it. It's only gonna get more amazing with time, either by being spot on, or horribly, horribly off the mark. I don't there's going to be a middle ground.

[TakingBackSunday]

The more I think about it the more I don't see the console being an actual generational leap of power, 360 graphics is what I think and almost guarantee will happen.

And I think everything proposed out there contradicts this.

[Phoenix Dark]

I wouldn't be surprised at all if it's weaker than the 360. Regardless, Nintendo finally start getting decent ports. The problem will be that Nintendo fans will continue buying Nintendo games, and everyone else will buy the superior 360/PS3 versions of multiconsole games while buying a Zelda or Mario title every other year.

[TakingBackSunday]

Only one source has said that it would be equal to the 360's power.  Everywhere else is sticking with the "significantly more powerful than..." tag.  And the french website even came to this conclusion as well.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Remember all of that insidah speculation that stated that the Wii was going to be on par with the 360 and PS3?

Let's just wait until the actual unveiling before people cream their tightie whities over probably fake specs.

[naff]

What would define a generational leap for you guys? A system comfortably capable of graphics similar to what we're getting now with better AA (a decent dedicated chip for this) at 1080p, 60fps with incrementally better processing power is all I'm looking for in a console. I don't want to spend 1k on a console at launch ever again.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

What would define a generational leap for you guys?

For this forum? Microsoft releasing their next console.

[TakingBackSunday]

Something that can run Crysis 1 at 60 fps.  Probably will only be at 720p though.

[Shaka Khan]

 DC how do you come up with these things?

[cool breeze]

What would define a generational leap for you guys? A system comfortably capable of graphics similar to what we're getting now with better AA (a decent dedicated chip for this) at 1080p, 60fps with incrementally better processing power is all I'm looking for in a console. I don't want to spend 1k on a console at launch ever again.

It probably won't be that (talking about PS4/Xbox3 too).  They'll just use the extra power in other ways.

[pilonv1]

I'd love to know what sort of shit DC is on sometimes

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

What would define a generational leap for you guys? A system comfortably capable of graphics similar to what we're getting now with better AA (a decent dedicated chip for this) at 1080p, 60fps with incrementally better processing power is all I'm looking for in a console. I don't want to spend 1k on a console at launch ever again.

My pulled out of my ass guess is that given how much of a bath Microsoft and Sony took on the 360 and PS3 (the PS3 will always be a leaden albatross around Sony's neck until they dump the fucker), I think we'll see cheaper, lower technology consoles that sell for $300-400.  So I don't expect much technology wise as I expect much greater internet integration and direct downloading.  So I expect big ass hard drives (or hard drives are easily expandable).  I think the 1080 and PS4 will make online their core focus.  I also cynically expect further monetization of almost everything: more horse armor, more online passes, and more little things here and there to give the middle finger to the used game purchaser.  Hell, I doubt I'll be even able to use regular AA batteries this go around -- I'd have to use expensive battery packs and chargers instead.

In terms of power and capability, I don't expect much.  Even if there was a lot of extra power, a lot of developers and publishers are not going to use it because companies are not going to expend $50 million plus for a halfway decent sized release.  I don't expect anything to blow me away or anything other than further refinements of what is available.  So maybe Crysis at 1080p with 60 fps is achievable but not much more.

[TakingBackSunday]

Something that can run Crysis 1 at 60 fps.  Probably will only be at 720p though.

That's not even a huge leap.

It is for nintendo  :'(

That's what I'd be happy with, honestly.  I don't see Microsoft or Sony (lol) having a huge jump, either.

[cool breeze]

yeah, I won't deny the excitement of seeing Nintendo finally improve after a decade.  But that's more a product of low expectations than anything else.

Other than that, it's going to be really hard to make the Wii 2 interesting.  I feel like Reggie will come out and announce that Modern Warfare 3 is releasing for the Wii2, as if it's a great milestone for Nintendo.  Then everyone in the audience (the ones who haven't been lobotomized) looks around like "wait, can't I play this on my Xbox or Playstation or PC already? what about other games?" well, Assassin's Creed Revelations is coming to the Wii2! and so is Mass Effect 3! and Bioshock Infinite!

Because other than AAAAA-developer High Voltage Software and Nintendo, there probably won't be a lot here that isn't on anything else.  At least, technically, the games could run best on the system, assuming they aren't on PC.  But then it will probably have gimped online, and no user accounts, and no achievements, etc.

[Trent Dole]

There'll probably be some Ubisoft shit. Haven't they been all over the last few launches?

[naff]

In terms of power and capability, I don't expect much.  Even if there was a lot of extra power, a lot of developers and publishers are not going to use it because companies are not going to expend $50 million plus for a halfway decent sized release.  I don't expect anything to blow me away or anything other than further refinements of what is available.  So maybe Crysis at 1080p with 60 fps is achievable but not much more.

Exactly. I think everyone just wants something that is reasonably well priced and has a smoother experience attached though 360 was pretty good as far as online experiences go. I don't really see where they'll go with upgrading that service with anything truly new. Cross game chat and a good party system is the peak of online integration as far as I'm concerned, it's really up to devs to craft the online experience from there and bigger HD's isn't really a problem, my PS3 has had 500gb since the beginning and economies outside the states where the internet isn't as cheap are still important enough that there is still going to be a big physical presence for generations to come.

I think MS and Sony must be having a lot of trouble right now devising how they are goin to sell their next system and defining what the generational leap should be and what perceived differences will make different consumer demographics jump. Integrated software that really shows off the systems capabilities is key imo. MS will be marketing the 1080 with a suped up kinect with all sorts of software tie ins like HD video skype w/ kinect out of the box, make powerpoint slides without a keyboard! and integrated family games (like Wii sports but on the HDD like a next gen Alex the Kidd), as for traditional gamers I'd say incremental upgrades in hardware across the board, smoother gameplay and enforced standards like 1080p, 60fps would be enough, especially after sticking out such a long generation. It's going to be great to see how much extra shit MS and Sony pack into their next consoles

[T-Short]

The next xbox codename is simply "engagement" because after it's done with you it leaves you with a massive ring.

A red one, perchance?

[maxy]

In advance of Nintendo's E3 press conference next week, Nikkei has leaked out details on the Wii successor. The report (registration required) mirrors much of what has surfaced over the past few weeks.

Wii 2 will feature a new type of controller that includes a touch screen. The controller will give tablet-like controls to games, tapping the touch panel to control the characters on your television, for instance. The controller can also be used as a portable game machine.

The touch panel on the controller is six inches. The controller itself has a built in rechargeable battery and includes a camera. The camera can be used for a variety of play opportunities -- for instance, a player making an avatar of himself for use in a game.

Nikkei says that Wii 2 will be released in the latter half of 2012. The site lists the system as "Wii successor console."

http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/06/04/nikkei_wii_controller_details/

[magus]

can't they leak whetever smash bros 4 exist or not for once?

[maxy]

The touch panel on the controller is six inches. The controller itself has a built in rechargeable battery and includes a camera. The camera can be used for a variety of play opportunities -- for instance, a player making an avatar of himself for use in a game.

could be pricey,my guess--$99 minimum

[TripleA]

In advance of Nintendo's E3 press conference next week, Nikkei has leaked out details on the Wii successor. The report (registration required) mirrors much of what has surfaced over the past few weeks.

Wii 2 will feature a new type of controller that includes a touch screen. The controller will give tablet-like controls to games, tapping the touch panel to control the characters on your television, for instance. The controller can also be used as a portable game machine.

The touch panel on the controller is six inches. The controller itself has a built in rechargeable battery and includes a camera. The camera can be used for a variety of play opportunities -- for instance, a player making an avatar of himself for use in a game.

Nikkei says that Wii 2 will be released in the latter half of 2012. The site lists the system as "Wii successor console."

http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/06/04/nikkei_wii_controller_details/

R.I.P Xbox and PlayStation.

[TripleA]

can't they leak whetever smash bros 4 exist or not for once?

Nintendo will announce it when it's ready.

[magus]

is that the bit where i point at the mario avatar,then you says me that your mario avatar doesn't have nothing to do with this and that,then demi comes and says something like "this isn't gaf!"

?

[TripleA]

You can do that, or you can keep it moving.

[Gospel]

This thing sounds so weird.

never thought I'd say this but, 6 inches is just too big

[etiolate]

expensive controllers for a company that has been king of living room multiplayer doesn't make sense

of course if this is some weird grab at the sony/ms game then it makes sense

they don't actually have people come into their homes

[TripleA]

so iPad with grips, triggers and buttons

Because the iPad has terrible ergonomics.

[TripleA]

expensive controllers for a company that has been king of living room multiplayer doesn't make sense

of course if this is some weird grab at the sony/ms game then it makes sense

they don't actually have people come into their homes

You do realize that new technology is expensive right

[Diunx]

Sounds terrible, so I totally believe it.

[TripleA]

This thing sounds so weird.

never thought I'd say this but, 6 inches is just too big

6" isn't too big if it's designed right.

The real question is what type of screen it is + what resolution(s) does the screen support.

[TripleA]

Sounds terrible, so I totally believe it.

Tell me something, do you think the NGP sounds terrible

[Shaka Khan]

You better learn how to edit or I'm gonna ban you.

[magus]

[tiesto]

This thing sounds so weird.

never thought I'd say this but, 6 inches is just too big

6" is not at all too big if you've been around EB for a while though 

[Diunx]

Sounds terrible, so I totally believe it.

Tell me something, do you think the NGP sounds terrible

The NGP sounds like the best portable of all time.

[Bebpo]

So if the key selling point for Cafe will be to play games on the go using the controller only...uhhhh, what is the 3DS?  Wouldn't a console/handheld hybrid system completely compete with 3DS and kill it?

Maybe they've already given up on the 3DS.

[FoneBone]

So if the key selling point for Cafe will be to play games on the go using the controller only...uhhhh, what is the 3DS?  Wouldn't a console/handheld hybrid system completely compete with 3DS and kill it?

While I do think this sounds like it could cannibalize the 3DS, it seems pretty clear from the rumors that the controller is a dumb unit that the console streams data to.  You'd be able to use it around the house, but taking it on the subway or whatever, not so much.

[TripleA]

You better learn how to edit or I'm gonna ban you.

Hit that ban button bitch.

[Bebpo]

So if the key selling point for Cafe will be to play games on the go using the controller only...uhhhh, what is the 3DS?  Wouldn't a console/handheld hybrid system completely compete with 3DS and kill it?

While I do think this sounds like it could cannibalize the 3DS, it seems pretty clear from the rumors that the controller is a dumb unit that the console streams data to.  You'd be able to use it around the house, but taking it on the subway or whatever, not so much.

Still seems dumb.  A lot of people get most of their handheld use in the home.  Why pick up the 3DS on the can when you can pick up this and play HD Nintendo games?  I can see people using the Cafe controller handheld around the house and PSP/Vita when out. 

[EmCeeGrammar]

Ill ban kahn for backseat modding, and then tripleA for making internet life harder for the rest of us nintendorks.
-----ANYWAY------

Something about all these rumors does not sit right with me.  Nintendo built their empire on accessibility and novelty.  These reports make no mention of an improved wiimote for instance.  That's akin to not having a second screen for the 3ds, which they didn't do of course.  I'll go flaccid fast if they renig on the pointer.  It's a wonderful interaction tool that makes other platforms feel archaic to me.

[cool breeze]

This still sounds confusing.  I'll stay optimistic in spite of the flop wave they unleashed over the past few years.  I really do want a great Nintendo system because I really like Nintendo games.  And I know we'll find out in a few days, but this is still so confusing.

it's like:

You play games on your TV, plus additional info/inputs are on the controller screen -- ok
You play games on your TV, but if you choose to, you can stream the video signal to the controller screen -- ok

Both? What? How do you design for that? Both 'ideas' are mutually exclusive.  Why do you design a game with additional functions on the controller screen if you could only use one when forgoing the TV?

Not releasing until the second half of 2012 seems weird too.  That's after E3 2012 and plenty of time for competitors to announce their hardware.

[etiolate]

expensive controllers for a company that has been king of living room multiplayer doesn't make sense

of course if this is some weird grab at the sony/ms game then it makes sense

they don't actually have people come into their homes

You do realize that new technology is expensive right

who are you talking to; what are you talking about

[Eel O'Brian]

for swords

[BlueTsunami]

The Wii and DS came off as weird devices so I don't even feel comfortable calling out how this thing will sell but all I know is that I don't really care for the iPad functionality in regards to gaming.

[EmCeeGrammar]

I think it makes sense as a supplemental controller that third parties are comfortable working with while allowing Nintendo to return to some of their aspirations they had with connectivity.

[TakingBackSunday]

I think it sounds cool.  I'm less concerned about the controller and more concerned at its power.

[magus]

none of you guys is concerned whetever or not there is no smash

SHAME
ALL OF YOU!

[archie4208]

Nobody cares after Brawl sucked so much. 

[EmCeeGrammar]

none of you guys is concerned whetever or not there is no smash

SHAME
ALL OF YOU!

I like smash a lot.  Its kind of a given there will be a sequel.  If I had to go into nintard frenzy mode then I want megaman and advance wars characters.  No subspace emmisary bs, return to atventure mode.  Online needs a major overhaul.  Allow customization of falling speed and hitstun to appease tourneyfags.  Oh, smash is one of thr few games I would happily pay for new stages,characters, and songs.  I'm don4.

edit:  Lol at archie pretending he wouldn't turn into a ninthing again if they bring back combos~

[TakingBackSunday]

Brawl was fun, I liked it a lot.  But I don't care about it getting announced.  I wanna see Retro's new thing the most.

[Damian79]

So if the key selling point for Cafe will be to play games on the go using the controller only...uhhhh, what is the 3DS?  Wouldn't a console/handheld hybrid system completely compete with 3DS and kill it?

Maybe they've already given up on the 3DS.

Yeah i am seriously considering not even getting a 3ds now despite all the upcoming rpg's.  Because i really dont go outside the house when i play my games on handheld.  If it is as powerful as they say it will probably mean RIP psv too.