20 minutes of Final Fantasy Type-0 [PSP][Hori Shitsu]

[Shaka Khan]

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When/how did this game come to be?

I'm surprised the game ended up looking like this, given its development history. And when did Square lax their sphincters and set this kind of demonstration instead of closed theaters?

Anyhow, from the footage you can see: Large areas, towns, NPCs, world map, the combat system, summon battles, airships and airship battles(?). I guess this is what 2-UMD PSP games look like.

All the 4gamer screens:

Final Fantasy Type-0 Gameplay Footage Analyzed [link]

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[Vizzys]

>psp

[Shaka Khan]

PSP

Handheld of the forever.

There better be a localization announcement and DD availability of this at E3. I need to play this on the NGP .

[Great Rumbler]

I guess I'll have to buy another PSP game.

[Himu]

Khan, unless you were living under a rock (and well, technically, you do since you an ARAB) it was painfully obvious Type-0 would end up being the best Crystalis Nova game by the trailers and previews and interviews. They were going for a specific experience and everyone who followed this game's development knew it would turn out being this good.

[Himu]

told you, borys.

[Shaka Khan]

Khan, unless you were living under a rock (and well, technically, you do since you an ARAB) it was painfully obvious Type-0 would end up being the best Crystalis Nova game by the trailers and previews and interviews. They were going for a specific experience and everyone who followed this game's development knew it would turn out being this good.

I read the previews, saw a couple of trailers, and was aware of what they were going for, but this kinda exceeded my expectations. It actually looks like a complete game with actual content to sink your teeth into, unlike recent FF-branded games, where the priorities are all messed up. I guess I'm just used to modern SE over promising and under delivering.

[Himu]

I'd say their recent handheld efforts are any indication, Type-0 was going to pull through, if only because they CAN'T lose their priorities on such a small platform.

Handheld S-E >>>>>>>>>>>> Console S-E

On console, they can spend 70 million, but on handheld, they have to manage their shit.

[Shaka Khan]

I certainly have more faith in this product now, but I still won't declare it as a success until I actually play it or at least hear some positive reactions around its released. Final Fantasy spin offs are cheap cash ins until proven otherwise, that will always be the rule.

[Himu]

Hey Magus.

Check out those empty fields!

BUBUBUBUBUBUBUBUT OLD SCHOOL RPGS DIDN'T HAVE EMPTY FIELDS

 

Anytime you bitch about an rpg with "empty fields" i am going to post a pic of FF7's world map.

[magus]

LOOKS FUCKAWESOME

Square bringing crisis core to PSP while DS gets shitty FF1-6 remakes

fixed!
the only good game square put on psp was kingdom heart,this game is directed from some hajime tabata guy... what did he do?

The 3rd Birthday (Video Game)
 
Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII (Video Game)
 
Before Crisis: Final Fantasy VII (Video Game)

oh god,you guys don't come cry to me when this is revealed to be a huge turd

Anytime you bitch about an rpg with "empty fields" i am going to post a pic of FF7's world map.

i'm not following you himuro?

[Himu]

Yes, Magus, this game is only Crisis Core with a new skin!

and you always say stuff like,"I don't get the appeal of these rpgs with empty fields" in regards to games like Dragon Quest VIII, Final Fantasy XII, and a whole slew of wrpgs when that video clearly displays an oldschool type world map which is nothing but empty fields and you act like rpg worlds have ever been IN ANY TIME *not* empty fields. I'm calling you out for you hypocrisy!

[magus]

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DON'T CRY TO MEEEEEEEEEEE HIMUROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Himu]

Yes, Tabata is the only person making this game

Also, FFX-2's battle system designer has nothing to do with this game. At all!

[Shaka Khan]

I still have a sinking feeling that the game won't have enough of anything, and will end up being 12-15 hours long. Prove me wrong, square.

[Himu]

The only thing we can do is cross our fingers, toes and dicks.

[magus]

and you act have ever been IN ANY TIME *not* empty fields.

what? i never said that! the problem is that a tiny fraction of FF7 is spent inside the world map,the other is spent in lovely places all done in kickass pre-rendered background

whole FF12 takes place in a 3D box,with some random enemies scattered out,so goddamn boring,this is not a game where you go on an adventure,it's a hiking simulator,it's no wonder they had to add a speed up button when they re-released the thing!

and my question is "where is the good in the box? people would have been happier if they made the FF13 tunnel just a little more wide and gave them more connection? that's the problem of FF13?"

Also, FFX-2's battle coordinator has nothing to do with this game. At all!

uh... wow?

[SantaC]

LOOKS FUCKAWESOME

Square bringing the old school FF love to PSP while DS gets shitty FF1-6 remakes

it's not old school without a turnbased system.

[Himu]

who gives a fuck

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

PEE ASS PEE

I'm going to be pessimistic about this release.  The FF cycle doesn't differ much from the Sonic cycle.  I'll just wait until I get some reliable impressions before paying money.  It looks fine enough but it could be the ol' bait and switch like FFXIII.

So the determining factor as to whether an RPG is old school or not is whether it is turn based or not?

Yet another stunningly brilliant post.  You've truly outdone yourself. 

[Great Rumbler]

LOOKS FUCKAWESOME

Square bringing the old school FF love to PSP while DS gets shitty FF1-6 remakes

it's not old school without a turnbased system.

There were RPGs with realtime combat as far back as the SNES, dude.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

LOOKS FUCKAWESOME

Square bringing the old school FF love to PSP while DS gets shitty FF1-6 remakes

it's not old school without a turnbased system.

There were RPGs with realtime combat as far back as the SNES, dude.

NOT AN OLD SCHOOL RPG ACCORDING TO SANTAC

[Himu]

LOOKS FUCKAWESOME

Square bringing the old school FF love to PSP while DS gets shitty FF1-6 remakes

it's not old school without a turnbased system.

There were RPGs with realtime combat as far back as the SNES, dude.

try nes.

[Himu]

PEE ASS PEE

I'm going to be pessimistic about this release.  The FF cycle doesn't differ much from the Sonic cycle.  I'll just wait until I get some reliable impressions before paying money.  It looks fine enough but it could be the ol' bait and switch like FFXIII.

Well they're already doing it better than FF13 because NO ONE KNEW how FF13 would play until the game came out in Japan. They're giving a full game demo here.

[iconoclast]

The FF cycle doesn't differ much from the Sonic cycle. 

    It's true!

[Himu]

LOOKS FUCKAWESOME

Square bringing the old school FF love to PSP while DS gets shitty FF1-6 remakes

it's not old school without a turnbased system.

There were RPGs with realtime combat as far back as the SNES, dude.

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NOT AN OLD SCHOOL RPG ACCORDING TO SANTAC

HEY MAGUS, CHECK OUT THOSE EMPTY FIELDS

[Shaka Khan]

nvm!

[SantaC]

PEE ASS PEE

I'm going to be pessimistic about this release.  The FF cycle doesn't differ much from the Sonic cycle.  I'll just wait until I get some reliable impressions before paying money.  It looks fine enough but it could be the ol' bait and switch like FFXIII.

So the determining factor as to whether an RPG is old school or not is whether it is turn based or not?

Yet another stunningly brilliant post.  You've truly outdone yourself. 

hey atleast i didnt call FF1-FF6 crappy

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

PEE ASS PEE

I'm going to be pessimistic about this release.  The FF cycle doesn't differ much from the Sonic cycle.  I'll just wait until I get some reliable impressions before paying money.  It looks fine enough but it could be the ol' bait and switch like FFXIII.

So the determining factor as to whether an RPG is old school or not is whether it is turn based or not?

Yet another stunningly brilliant post.  You've truly outdone yourself. 

hey atleast i didnt call FF1-FF6 crappy

He was calling the remakes crappy, not the games themselves.

[Akala]

I actually thought of the sonic cycle too.

Maybe replace "sonic friends" with "zippers" or something.

[Himu]

Nothing wrong with zippers. FF7 had zippers, so I'm not seeing the Sonic Cycle in comparison to Final Fantasy.

Final Fantasy Cycle is more like:

- New FF announcement -> excitement
- No details on new FF -> curious optimism
- S-E announces they're finally working on the new FF they announced two years ago -> frustration
- STILL no details on new FF -> apathy
- S-E goes on a media binge on all info related to this new FF -> curious optimism
- Game releases, turns out to have barebones content and features comopared to previous FF -> anger and disappointment

Of course, that is only applicable to FF13 but it kinda applies to every FF since FF12. The final point in the cycle is wholly dependent on whether or not you like the game, but the structure of the cycle has been in effect since FF12 on every single new FF.

[magus]

HEY MAGUS, CHECK OUT THOSE EMPTY FIELDS

are you saying that secret of mana is boring? i actualy agree with that

[Himu]

Magus, the number of rpgs you like can be counted on one hand.

[SantaC]

PEE ASS PEE

I'm going to be pessimistic about this release.  The FF cycle doesn't differ much from the Sonic cycle.  I'll just wait until I get some reliable impressions before paying money.  It looks fine enough but it could be the ol' bait and switch like FFXIII.

So the determining factor as to whether an RPG is old school or not is whether it is turn based or not?

Yet another stunningly brilliant post.  You've truly outdone yourself. 

hey atleast i didnt call FF1-FF6 crappy

He was calling the remakes crappy, not the games themselves.

uh FF5 and FF6 haven't even gotten remakes you know. And FF3 DS is a lot better than the original FF3.

[magus]

Magus, the number of rpgs you like can be counted on one hand.

not my fault there are a lot of lame ones with crazy fanbases

[Himu]

FF3 ds sucks compared to FF3 nes. FF3 ds only has you squared away against three enemies at one time ALWAYS. FF3 nes has you going up against 6-9 enemies at once.

[magus]

and that's a bad thing?

[SantaC]

FF3 ds sucks compared to FF3 nes. FF3 ds only has you squared away against three enemies at one time ALWAYS. FF3 nes has you going up against 6-9 enemies at once.

yeah right, FF3 nes is the only main game FF that didn't get a western release because it sucked at the time.

[Shaka Khan]

I liked 12, I liked 13, I disliked CC.

1 out of 3? The cycle doesn't apply to me

[Himu]

Unlike the some people, some of us like actual tension in our rpg battles. Bringing a party of 9 dudes to 1 is always satisfying and for variety's sake, only ever fighting three enemies at once gets boring by the third battle unless the game has immense enemy variety. But since you love FF13, I guess variety isn't one of your bulletpoints.

FF3 ds sucks compared to FF3 nes. FF3 ds only has you squared away against three enemies at one time ALWAYS. FF3 nes has you going up against 6-9 enemies at once.

yeah right, FF3 nes is the only main game FF that didn't get a western release because it sucked at the time.

You think S-E japan gives a flying fuck about the west in regards to FF3? 

I liked 12, I liked 13, I disliked CC.

1 out of 3? The cycle doesn't apply to me

Like 12, mixed on 13, mixed on CC.

CC would be better if Genesis weren't in it.

[Shaka Khan]

CC would've been better if they packaged the mission mode only.

[Himu]

I thought missions got boring because it's only ever go and kill this party of people. zzz

[magus]

battling 9 enemies at once doesn't necessarily translate into a hard battle

but it surely translate into fiddling your thumb while you read that "SLIME ATTACKS FOR 2 DAMAGE!"

[Shaka Khan]

I thought missions got boring because it's only ever go and kill this party of people. zzz

Sounds 10 times better than the story mode.

[SantaC]

Unlike the some people, some of us like actual tension in our rpg battles. Bringing a party of 9 dudes to 1 is always satisfying and for variety's sake, only ever fighting three enemies at once gets boring by the third battle unless the game has immense enemy variety. But since you love FF13, I guess variety isn't one of your bulletpoints.

FF3 ds sucks compared to FF3 nes. FF3 ds only has you squared away against three enemies at one time ALWAYS. FF3 nes has you going up against 6-9 enemies at once.

yeah right, FF3 nes is the only main game FF that didn't get a western release because it sucked at the time.

You think S-E japan gives a flying fuck about the west in regards to FF3? 

S-E Japan? You realize that it there was only Square back in the NES era right? Oh you started  gaming on  the PSX/N64 era or something.

[Himu]

I liked some of the story sections of CC. I liked almost all parts with Aerith, Cloud and Sephiroth because I thought the game did a great job enhancing their characters. My biggest problem with CC are the enemy encounters. They're not even random, they're scripted except you have no say if you want to engage or not. You can't even escape if you don't want to fight. A lot of the fights have random variables too.

[Himu]

Unlike the some people, some of us like actual tension in our rpg battles. Bringing a party of 9 dudes to 1 is always satisfying and for variety's sake, only ever fighting three enemies at once gets boring by the third battle unless the game has immense enemy variety. But since you love FF13, I guess variety isn't one of your bulletpoints.

FF3 ds sucks compared to FF3 nes. FF3 ds only has you squared away against three enemies at one time ALWAYS. FF3 nes has you going up against 6-9 enemies at once.

yeah right, FF3 nes is the only main game FF that didn't get a western release because it sucked at the time.

You think S-E japan gives a flying fuck about the west in regards to FF3? 

S-E Japan? You realize that it there was only Square back in the NES era right? Oh you started  gaming on  the N64 or something.

We didn't get FFII, FFIII or FFV released in the west until much, much later. What in the fuck are you talking about?

Have you ever wondered why FF1+2, 4-6 have been re-released so many times and not III? Maybe it has to do with the source code being lost for the original game? Do you really think they'd release FFII over FFIII if they could avoid it?

The fact you put FFII over FFIII is pretty telling.

[SantaC]

Unlike the some people, some of us like actual tension in our rpg battles. Bringing a party of 9 dudes to 1 is always satisfying and for variety's sake, only ever fighting three enemies at once gets boring by the third battle unless the game has immense enemy variety. But since you love FF13, I guess variety isn't one of your bulletpoints.

FF3 ds sucks compared to FF3 nes. FF3 ds only has you squared away against three enemies at one time ALWAYS. FF3 nes has you going up against 6-9 enemies at once.

yeah right, FF3 nes is the only main game FF that didn't get a western release because it sucked at the time.

You think S-E japan gives a flying fuck about the west in regards to FF3? 

S-E Japan? You realize that it there was only Square back in the NES era right? Oh you started  gaming on  the N64 or something.

We didn't get FFII, FFIII or FFV released in the west until much, much later. What in the fuck are you talking about?

Have you ever wondered why FF1+2, 4-6 have been re-released so many times and not III? Maybe it has to do with the source code being lost for the original game? Do you really think they'd release FFII over FFIII if they had to?

Losing the original code is a load of crap, the game was recently put on the JP Virtual Console and even if they lost the code, reverse engineering isn't exactly rocket science for NES games

[Himu]

That doesn't change the fact you put FF2 over 3, which makes you wrong by default.

[SantaC]

That doesn't change the fact you put FF2 over 3, which makes you wrong by default.

whatever, you're a noob compared to me I started gaming in the early 80s on C64 and Amiga 500 while you started during PSX/N64, lol.

[Himu]

I started gaming on the nes

[Shaka Khan]

SantaC, You're over 30? oh dear.

[SantaC]

SantaC, You're over 30? oh dear.

um yeah so what? So Himuru is like 30 too? I thought Shenmue was his first game.

[Himu]

battling 9 enemies at once doesn't necessarily translate into a hard battle

but it surely translate into fiddling your thumb while you read that "SLIME ATTACKS FOR 2 DAMAGE!"

Never said anything about difficulty.

But it's infinitely more fun than fighting



But I guess



you like



your rpg battles



as stress-free and repetitive



as possible

[Himu]

SantaC, You're over 30? oh dear.

um yeah so what? So Himuru is like 30 too? I thought Shenmue was his first game.

Jesus Christ 

I don't even know where he's getting this or why it even matters. I have been gaming since the nes and my first game was Super Mario Bros. Why does he think playing on the Amiga takes away from the fact his opinion is shit?

[Shaka Khan]

SantaC, You're over 30? oh dear.

um yeah so what?

Your posting style doesn't reflect that at all.

[magus]

i don't see how fighting 9 enemies is less repetitive than fighting 3 enemies

if anything fighting 9 enemies is MORE repetitive because it actualy takes LONGER to dispose of them

there is nothing more annoying than playing a dragon quest game and getting the boat,now suddenly every 20 seconds the game stops you and force you into a battle that sometimes take as well as a full minute (more if you get those guys that HIDE IN THEIR SHELL just so that they can waste more of your time)

it's like playing with a nagging children close to you

[Himu]

The way I see it, I see 9 enemies to kill. That means I'm being ganged up on. I recognize a threat. Fighting two enemies when I have a three man party however? Well, I feel I'm the one who's not fair.

Fighting 3 enemies you can kill with one hit is boring.

Killing 9 enemies who at the very least, bring something to the fight, is fun.

I hate the standard fight two-three enemies at once mantra in 3d FF's. It is universally awful. Bow down to FF12.

[Himu]

there is nothing more annoying than playing a dragon quest game and getting the boat,now suddenly every 20 seconds the game stops you and force you into a battle that sometimes take as well as a full minute (more if you get those guys that HIDE IN THEIR SHELL just so that they can waste more of your time)

it's like playing with a nagging children close to you

A dragon quest random battle fight that lasts more than a minute

Must be playing wrong.

[magus]

Fighting 3 enemies you can kill with one hit is boring.

random battles in rpg have always been just busy work,the trick is into making the busy work as amusing as possible by having kickass music and weird monster and less tedious as possible by not having it drags