Author Topic: i have been waiting for this since e3 ended (Read 5787 times)

choco parfait · « **Reply #60 on:** June 20, 2011, 01:47:09 PM »

Do you hate FFXIII?

magus · « **Reply #61 on:** June 20, 2011, 01:47:44 PM »

nope but i don't like FFXII

where does that put me? $:-\$

Himu · « **Reply #62 on:** June 20, 2011, 01:47:50 PM »

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Magus your argument makes no sense. Once again you are harping on PREMISE rather than actual GAME DESIGN.

yes premise is way more important than something as vague as "game design",in fact premise is king and it is the reason i am a disgusting weeaboo

i wish people would stop talking about games like they are historical building ("the architecture of this level..." "it has awesome game design") and started talking about games like cat video's ("the bit where the cat chased the laser was so funny!")

Game design is level design, weapon variety, level variety, enemy variety, dialogue, replay value, difficulty (does it spike? does it escalate?), exploration. Basically everything that encompasses of what makes a video game GOOD.

magus · « **Reply #63 on:** June 20, 2011, 01:54:30 PM »

the last fps i played was goldeneye on the wii,it was about somewhat cover based shooting,it had regenerating health,the weapon compartment consited of a shotgun,a gun,some things that went boom and too many machine guns,enemies consisted of soldiers,soldiers and more soldiers,and one level was an incredibly boring night club where this song looped infinitely "REMEMBA-BA-BA-BA-BA-BA-BA-BA-BA-BA"

and this is how my twisted mind see fps,so much standardiness (i know i know it's not a real word,put down your gun grammar nazis) to stun a clown

demi · « **Reply #64 on:** June 20, 2011, 01:56:05 PM »

What you want is Bulletstorm

Himu · « **Reply #65 on:** June 20, 2011, 02:01:54 PM »

To me that just sounds like an average or bad game and not indicative of an entire genre. FPS is among my least favorite genres too.

And yes, Bulletstorm's demo rocked my face off.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #66 on:** June 20, 2011, 02:02:29 PM »

Quote from: magus on June 20, 2011, 01:54:30 PM

the last fps i played was goldeneye on the wii,it was about somewhat cover based shooting,it had regenerating health,the weapon compartment consited of a shotgun,a gun,some things that went boom and too many machine guns,enemies consisted of soldiers,soldiers and more soldiers,and one level was an incredibly boring night club where this song looped infinitely "REMEMBA-BA-BA-BA-BA-BA-BA-BA-BA-BA"

and this is how my twisted mind see fps,so much standardiness (i know i know it's not a real word,put down your gun grammar nazis) to stun a clown

It would be really cool if people could give you some example of FPSs that would change your mind about what the genre has to offer!

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What about Mirror's Edge and Portal? Dark Messiah: Might and Magic? Deus Ex? Penumbra/Amnesia? Metroid Prime? System Shock? The Chronicles of Riddick? Thief: Deadly Shadows?

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would you say Doom and Bioshock are samey? Or Stalker and Half-Life? Fallout 3 and Bulletstorm?

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Himu · « **Reply #67 on:** June 20, 2011, 02:05:34 PM »

Portal is not a first person shooter and neither is Mirror's Edge or many of those other games. We just tried suggesting he play Portal and now you're listing it as an fps.

tiesto · « **Reply #68 on:** June 20, 2011, 02:06:39 PM »

Not getting a Mirror's Edge 2 is one of the worst things to happen this gen, second only to the Xenoblade/Last Story non-localization.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #69 on:** June 20, 2011, 02:08:53 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on June 20, 2011, 02:05:34 PM

Portal is not a first person shooter and neither is Mirror's Edge. We just tried suggesting he play Portal and now you're listing it as an fps.

We've got to get him away from the gaming ghetto somehow. If that means convincing him that Portal and Mirror's Edge are FPSs, then maybe they will be the gateway drug to the greener pastures of glorious Western development [i.e. Halo, Call of Duty, ect.].

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Yes, we all know that they have virtually nothing in common with the general idea of an FPS and that's the point. The genre isn't just "get a bunch of guns and fight soldiers/aliens/terrorists. There's also outlier games that buck genre trends and tropes and blend genres while still maintaining the outward appearance of an FPS.

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tiesto · « **Reply #70 on:** June 20, 2011, 02:17:57 PM »

The western development pastures definitely aren't green... they're brown and grey and rendered in Unreal Engine 3 with excessive bump-mapping and shader effects.

magus, play Mirror's Edge and Portal at least. Portal is like 2 hours long and has a more entertaining and lighthearted setting than most FPS. And Mirror's Edge is just awesome, running, sliding, wall-jumping around super-clean Ikea showrooms and futuristic cityscapes with an amazing soundtrack.

Himu · « **Reply #71 on:** June 20, 2011, 02:18:20 PM »

I'd just suggest he stick with the basics.

Games that have a first person viewpoint but aren't shooters and can be played on 360:

- Portal
- Mirror's Edge

FPS' that are awesome:

- Duke Nukem 3d
- Half Life 2
- Half Life episodes 1 and 2
- Bulletstorm

Himu · « **Reply #72 on:** June 20, 2011, 02:29:06 PM »

Quote from: tiesto on June 20, 2011, 02:17:57 PM

The western development pastures definitely aren't green... they're brown and grey and rendered in Unreal Engine 3 with excessive bump-mapping and shader effects.

You guys make me ashamed of my hard on for Japanese games. Pathetic. Equally as annoying as anyone who is anti-Japanese gaming. Two extremes do not make a right.

Herr Mafflard · « **Reply #73 on:** June 20, 2011, 02:36:13 PM »

Bulletstorm is UE3 and is probably the most colourful FPS game I've ever played

Himu · « **Reply #74 on:** June 20, 2011, 02:45:29 PM »

Quote from: Borys on June 20, 2011, 02:33:14 PM

smh Himuro... Uncharted, Saint's Row 2 and tuftoo do not run on UE3 engine.

He said western games doofus. I'm talking in general.

And even then:

demi · « **Reply #75 on:** June 20, 2011, 02:46:44 PM »

Quote from: tiesto on June 20, 2011, 02:06:39 PM

Not getting a Mirror's Edge 2 is one of the worst things to happen this gen, second only to the Xenoblade/Last Story non-localization.

Xenoblade is getting a localization.

Vizzys · « **Reply #76 on:** June 20, 2011, 02:47:12 PM »

japan needs to make more fps games

brob · « **Reply #77 on:** June 20, 2011, 03:15:44 PM »

are y'all trying to fagot up the bore and gaf with this tripe?

tiesto · « **Reply #78 on:** June 20, 2011, 03:57:02 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on June 20, 2011, 02:29:06 PM

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You guys make me ashamed of my hard on for Japanese games. Pathetic. Equally as annoying as anyone who is anti-Japanese gaming. Two extremes do not make a right.

Actually I was only (mostly) joking with that line, of course there are plenty of colorful and nice-looking western games (Uncha and Mirror's Edge especially, such great usage of color

). I just couldn't resist making that joke

magus · « **Reply #79 on:** June 20, 2011, 04:43:52 PM »

Quote from: Borys on June 20, 2011, 03:26:22 PM

magus does

you guys keeps nintendosbooger around and you complain about ol'me just because i don't like a genre

Himu · « **Reply #80 on:** June 20, 2011, 05:03:57 PM »

it's cuz we love you.

naff · « **Reply #81 on:** June 20, 2011, 05:15:45 PM »

Nobody cares what ol'booger thinks magus. Surprisingly his views on gaming are even more stunted than yours

etiolate · « **Reply #82 on:** June 20, 2011, 11:19:24 PM »

fps =/

Playing Metro 2033, I am enjoying most of it besides the "shooter" segments. I'm just tired of that gameplay.

cool breeze · « **Reply #83 on:** June 20, 2011, 11:32:29 PM »

Are you playing Metro 2033 on the Ranger mode? Supposedly that makes things better. I say supposedly because I only played it on Ranger mode, and ammo is scarce and enemies go down quick. I thought the shooting action (against humans, at least) would have been great if the AI wasn't so bad. And even then, I tried playing it as a stealth game.

Not to get into whatever this thread is about, but I was randomly thinking about Psi-Ops yesterday. That was a fun game.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #84 on:** June 21, 2011, 02:07:12 AM »

I've decided I'm doing a boycott of anything corridor related. Anything without an open map is getting ignored.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #85 on:** June 21, 2011, 02:08:29 AM »

Quote from: pilonv1 on June 21, 2011, 02:07:12 AM

Anything without an open map is getting ignored.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #86 on:** June 21, 2011, 02:59:31 AM »

Of course when Mass Effect 3 comes out I may need to revisit this $:-\$

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #87 on:** June 21, 2011, 03:17:26 AM »

Mirrors Edge was sex.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #88 on:** June 21, 2011, 03:54:28 AM »

Herr Mafflard · « **Reply #89 on:** June 21, 2011, 04:25:39 AM »

Quote from: etiolate on June 20, 2011, 11:19:24 PM

fps =/

Playing Metro 2033, I am enjoying most of it besides the "shooter" segments. I'm just tired of that gameplay.

Metro 2033 was pretty boring for me, I didn't even finish it. If all I played were Metro 2033 on the FPS front, I'd be pretty tired of "that" gameplay too.

Shouldn't judge the entire genre on what one, mediocre -- especially in the gameplay department -- game makes you feel. That would be like me saying I'm tired of jrpgs because I didn't like White Knight Chronicles.

etiolate · « **Reply #90 on:** June 21, 2011, 05:47:54 AM »

I am not judging FPS by Metro, as I have enjoyed Metro so far. I'm just saying the shooter segments are less interesting than wandering around the outposts, the stealthy stuff or the survival/spooky stuff.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #91 on:** June 21, 2011, 11:32:12 AM »

Breakdown is one of the few games I would define as both completely fucked and completely awesome

cool breeze · « **Reply #92 on:** June 21, 2011, 11:41:51 AM »

only thing I remember really disliking in Breakdown was the controls for the jeep

I have to see if it is backward compatible later

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