EA pulls Crysis 2 from Steam...or maybe not

[maxy]

EB PC nerds are lazy,no topic about this

Posted below is EA's statement sent to IGN:

It's unfortunate that Steam has removed Crysis 2 from their service. This was not an EA decision or the result of any action by EA.

Steam has imposed a set of business terms for developers hoping to sell content on that service – many of which are not imposed by other online game services. Unfortunately, Crytek has an agreement with another download service which violates the new rules from Steam and resulted in its expulsion of Crysis 2 from Steam.

Crysis 2 continues to be available on several other download services including Origin.com.

IGN has contacted Valve for comment.

hmmmm

[demi]

That's because this isnt really news...

[Stoney Mason]

Don't mock Steam on GAF or you will be banned.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=28622337&postcount=1559

I don't know how 99% of other gaming forums operate, but I do know 99% of other gaming forums are fucking awful. Yet neoGAF is not awful. I think that's related to the fact that people aren't censored and they are encouraged to post their opinions with conviction.

[archie4208]

That'll teach him to mess with based Gabe. 

[maxy]

PC nerds are so funny,not sure what they love Gabe so much,he only wants their money.

Digital is growing and publishers are not willing to share anymore,simple as that.

[Great Rumbler]

Somewhat unrelated: I was able to activate some of my already-purchased games on Origin [Mass Effect 2, Dragon Age, ect.], but it won't let me play them sans disc. That's kinda lame.

[Stoney Mason]

PC nerds are so funny,not sure what they love Gabe so much,he only wants their money.

Digital is growing and publishers are not willing to share anymore,simple as that.

This is the modern age. You can't just like something anymore. That's too weak of a position. That's pussy.

You have to love it with all your soul and ban and attack anybody who doesn't agree with you 100% completely.

[Joe Molotov]

PC nerds are so funny,not sure what they love Gabe so much,he only wants their money.

Digital is growing and publishers are not willing to share anymore,simple as that.

Imagine if every time you started up your 360, if you wanted to play an EA game you had to log-in to a separate EA service, with it's own separate Friends List, Achievements, etc. Because that's the kind of bullshit PC gamers have to put up with. Steam is the closest thing to a unified service like XBL or PSN, that's why PC nerds love it.

[archie4208]

Steam provides an awesome service, so I can understand why people are evangelical about it.  I downloaded Spiral Knights on it and it automatically set up an account and integrated my Steam friends into the game without me having to mess around with anything.



This is awesome.  I don't have to post at GAF or Evilbore that I'm playing Spiral Knights, I can just check my e-friends who are already playing. 

[Stoney Mason]

PC nerds are so funny,not sure what they love Gabe so much,he only wants their money.

Digital is growing and publishers are not willing to share anymore,simple as that.

Imagine if every time you started up your 360, if you wanted to play an EA game you had to log-in to a separate EA service, with it's own separate Friends List, Achievements, etc. Because that's the kind of bullshit PC gamers have to put up with. Steam is the closest thing to a unified service like XBL or PSN, that's why PC nerds love it.

I think everybody gets why people like Steam. It's a good service. I just think people get a bit overly weird and creepy about it hence ban behavior. And it seems to rot the logic part of some of their brain where the PC is an open platform and these issues will arise and the market will sort itself out.

[Great Rumbler]

Fanboys will be fanboys will be fanboys. Nothing new here.

But, again, having to manage a dozen different DD service to play my games is LAME. I want ONE. And Steam is the closest to that ideal.

On the other hand, Impulse is fine because it offers a lot of weird games that wouldn't make it on Steam [not that I use it particularly often regardless] and GoG is great because it's all about making old games playable on new PCs without DRM. Origin needs to be something other than an EA-branded Steam clone, which is all it appears to be right now.

[Stoney Mason]

No publisher is going to stand by in the future and just let Valve rake in the dough and cede that part of the market to them utterly. Especially for big budget games. I'm honestly surprised it took EA this long to do what they are doing.

[Great Rumbler]

Is the PC market even big enough to warrant every publisher out there building and maintaining their own service, in competition with a dozen others?

[maxy]

PC nerds are so funny,not sure what they love Gabe so much,he only wants their money.

Digital is growing and publishers are not willing to share anymore,simple as that.

Imagine if every time you started up your 360, if you wanted to play an EA game you had to log-in to a separate EA service, with it's own separate Friends List, Achievements, etc. Because that's the kind of bullshit PC gamers have to put up with. Steam is the closest thing to a unified service like XBL or PSN, that's why PC nerds love it.

That would be shit,for a closed platform like 360.Unified stuff is good,but that will never work on PC unless PC becomes console.


PC is "free to all" device and DD should be like retail,buy some game anywhere and play it without logging on or running some shitty app in the background.

Publisher job is to make that possible,buy some game and just play.

Why everything has to be so complicated?

[Stoney Mason]

Is the PC market even big enough to warrant every publisher out there building and maintaining their own service, in competition with a dozen others?

Not sure which is why I think the market will sort itself out. How many search engines can the market warrant? How many online music distribution services can the market warrant? The market tends to test it out and come to an answer.

But I totally get why EA, or Activision, or Blizzard, would try to create their own community and pull you there instead of just saying okay Valve you take it.

This isn't to say of course that the consumer is ncessarily going to side with these competing services. Just that this shouldn't really come as a shock to the general gaming public.

[archie4208]

It's all about money. Why should EA take 70% of each sale when they can get 100%? Of course they have to balance things like 30M people suddenly losing the way to obtain their games via DD vs. number of people who can obtain their game via Origin.

What I don't get is why they don't keep their games on Steam for $60 and NO CLEARANCES vs. having them on Origin for $45 for example.

Win-win situation.

Because B&M retailers would have a hissy fit if EA, or any publisher, did that.

[Eel O'Brian]

PC nerds are so funny,not sure what they love Gabe so much,he only wants their money.

Gabe sells me $60 games for $10 three months after release

gabe

[iconoclast]

Don't mock Steam on GAF or you will be banned.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=28622337&postcount=1559

I don't know how 99% of other gaming forums operate, but I do know 99% of other gaming forums are fucking awful. Yet neoGAF is not awful. I think that's related to the fact that people aren't censored and they are encouraged to post their opinions with conviction.

That guy has been pretty negative toward PC gaming/PC gamers for a while now so he was going to get axed eventually since being a PC warrior is encouraged on GAF.

[Great Rumbler]

PC nerds are so funny,not sure what they love Gabe so much,he only wants their money.

Gabe sells me $60 games for $10 three months after release

And this is what's most important. PERIOD.

[CajoleJuice]

PC nerds are so funny,not sure what they love Gabe so much,he only wants their money.

Gabe sells me $60 games for $10 three months after release

gabe

[Cerveza mas fina]

It's all about money. Why should EA take 70% of each sale when they can get 100%? Of course they have to balance things like 30M people suddenly losing the way to obtain their games via DD vs. number of people who can obtain their game via Origin.

What I don't get is why they don't keep their games on Steam for $60 and NO CLEARANCES vs. having them on Origin for $45 for example.

Win-win situation.

Its actually whats happening on the android market.

You can get Gameloft games there for 5 euro, on the Gameloft site for 2.

[pilonv1]

Is the PC market even big enough to warrant every publisher out there building and maintaining their own service, in competition with a dozen others?

As I said in the SWTOR Origins exclusive thread, it's like WOW in 2004 being not sold in Gamestop. You could theoretically get away with your Battlefield 3s but why would you want your Dead Spaces or Sims Medieval not available to everyone?

[Cormacaroni]

PC nerds are so funny,not sure what they love Gabe so much,he only wants their money.

Gabe sells me $60 games for $10 three months after release

gabe

Also, he makes the best games. Straight-up fact <3 Gabe

I am of course horrified and amused by his disgusting fat stores but I make an exception for people who make the best games.

[cool breeze]

If Origin lets me tie my retail games into the digital service ala steamworks, I'll be ok with that.

Most EA retail game still require the DVD in the drive.

[Great Rumbler]

Most EA retail game still require the DVD in the drive.

Yeah, and it's annoying.

[cool breeze]

you actually can! simply entering the cd-key works for some games.  for ones that don't work, you need to contact customer service.  except the old three Battlefield games in my garage, I have all my EA games digitally now.  fuck you, dvds! rot in hell!

for games purchased on steam, you have to use this: https://activate.ea.com/gameactivation.do

[Great Rumbler]

you actually can! simply entering the cd-key works for some games. 

I've done that. The game still won't launch [even when I click on their icon in Origin] without the DVD. Maybe it will if I delete my game files and redownload them through Origin, but I haven't felt like trying that yet.