November NPD

[Bebpo]

That's what happens when you keep releasing B-F tier entries in what was once an "I can buy this blind because I know it'll be quality" franchise.

Even when Metroid went FPS with Prime, it wasn't as huge of drop in quality as Zelda's had.  The only people who killed sales were Nintendo themselves on that series.

[Owl-faced Wizard]

Zelda will be fine, but it's not gonna get Ocarina/TP numbers.

[Phoenix Dark]

Nintendo games sell like AC/DC albums: forever.

[Bebpo]

Nintendo franchises don't sell like normal games, which are frontloaded.  A seemingly slow first month doesn't tell you anything.  For instance you look at Zelda and think that it sold less than SR3, but I guarantee when it's all said and done Zelda has a million plus lead in sales.

SS is definitely going to be the lowest selling 3d Zelda though well all is said and done. 

[Owl-faced Wizard]

It'll do better than Majora's Mask, I'm betting.  Might do as well as Wind Waker.

[tiesto]

ps3 is a great blu ray player, probably the best on the market actually.

That's nice and everything but every device nowadays comes with that. It's like having a great CD player. I don't really care if my console does that. In fact since I tend to stream everything from my computer to whatever device I'm using its really rather pointless. (for me)

Funny enough, did you know that PS1's CD players are supposedly audiophile level? http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2006/11/5935.ars

[Stoney Mason]

ps3 is a great blu ray player, probably the best on the market actually.

That's nice and everything but every device nowadays comes with that. It's like having a great CD player. I don't really care if my console does that. In fact since I tend to stream everything from my computer to whatever device I'm using its really rather pointless. (for me)

Funny enough, did you know that PS1's CD players are supposedly audiophile level? http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2006/11/5935.ars

Yeah I think somebody on this board posted that awhile back but yeah it is a cool story.

[Flannel Boy]

Nintendo games sell like AC/DC albums: forever.

Nintendo games are like AC/DC songs: derivative.

[pilonv1]

Nintendo games sell like AC/DC albums: forever.

Nintendo games are like AC/DC songs: derivative.

AC/DC albums do age better than most Nintendo games though

[Stoney Mason]

Modern Warfare 3 sold 8.99 million units across all formats in November, with Skyrim finishing second with 2.8 million units.

[Trent Dole]

3DS titles from gaf:

blue hedgehog < 20k
doukutsu story < 10k
ninja < 3k
acahl < 2k

Sonic, Cave Story, Shinobi, Ace Combat

Third parties on 3DS are DOOM-the-fuck-up-ED.

Of course they are - it's a Nintendo console.

[Don Flamenco]

on the plus side, they sold that many iPhone budgeted games for like, 10 times their value. 

[Cerveza mas fina]

I'm not sure COD can become like FIFA or Madden.

Those have been going for 20 years now. Thats another ballgame.

[Don Flamenco]

it's certainly not going to become unprofitable any time soon.  Halo is almost too distinct in style to earn permanent perennial status. On the other hand, Call of Duty is just "real" war where you play as 1st world military powers, which will never not appeal to gamers.  That gives it a pretty permanent feeling, like a sports franchise.  They would have to take in a 180 direction for a few years to sour people on it. 

[HyperZoneWasAwesome]

3DS titles from gaf:

blue hedgehog < 20k
doukutsu story < 10k
ninja < 3k
acahl < 2k

Sonic, Cave Story, Shinobi, Ace Combat

Third parties on 3DS are DOOM-the-fuck-up-ED.

freaking tragic, as all of those had some actual money poured into their development/actual marketing.
but then again, the market can't really bear too many 40 buck handheld games, now can it?

[Stoney Mason]

COD won't continue at the skyrocketing pace it has been (and to be fair no game has ever achieved the explosive growth it has) and it might even decline to a degree but this will be far more dependent on the quality of the games they put out and if they service the fans who buy their games and keep giving them enjoyment. Forum types continually underestimate the series and never really understand why the series took off and why it remains popular.

There is not a franchise on the horizon as of this moment that has a chance of displacing it.

[Brehvolution]

Not til next gen anyways. 60 FPS is what really puts COD above the competition imo. The fluidity and feeling of complete control is what sets it apart.

[Stoney Mason]

It's leveling and perks.
It's 60 fps.
It's tight controls.
It's accessibility.
It's party groups on Xbox Live.
It's word of mouth.
It's the most popular genre of this generation and the first where things like PSN and Xbox Live gained a real foothold.
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It's a lots of things honestly.

[CajoleJuice]

What Stoney said, as usual.

[AdmiralViscen]

3DS titles from gaf:

blue hedgehog < 20k
doukutsu story < 10k
ninja < 3k
acahl < 2k

Sonic, Cave Story, Shinobi, Ace Combat

Third parties on 3DS are DOOM-the-fuck-up-ED.

freaking tragic, as all of those had some actual money poured into their development/actual marketing.
but then again, the market can't really bear too many 40 buck handheld games, now can it?

i thought the 3ds version of sonic was half assed? thats why i skipped it

[Cerveza mas fina]

@Flamenco: I agree with that War creates that permanent feeling too. Question is can COD keep war fresh for another whole gen? They will have to change things up.

Also take in the fact that war is huge and popular now, once society gets a little more hippy again you'll be seeing less of it and less sales for it. Everything gets stale at one point, Lager's forgetting the time when Winning Eleven ruled the world before Fifa did the necessary changes.

Oh I know that Fifa wasn't always top dog, but its been up there since 20 years. Winning Eleven was the better game maybe, but Im not sure it ever sold better.

[Mupepe]

Call of Duty won't be a failure until they decide to try something new like Call of Duty: Gettysburg.  It will happen one day when they run out of ideas.

[Tasty]

Nintendo games sell like AC/DC albums: forever.

Nintendo games are like AC/DC songs: derivative.

AC/DC albums do age better than most Nintendo games though

[Phoenix Dark]

Nintendo games sell like AC/DC albums: forever.

Nintendo games are like AC/DC songs: derivative.

AC/DC albums do age better than most Nintendo games though

Also like Nintendo, AC/DC stubbornly refuses to join the 21st century in terms of online capability/commerce. There's no excuse for me not being able to buy Back In Black on iTunes smh