Author Topic: FFXIII-2 demo is up (Read 5849 times)

Bebpo · « **Reply #60 on:** January 12, 2012, 12:18:21 AM »

Probably in a few areas. The framerate for the game as a whole is avg 25fps with lows into the 18-20fps, and highs occasionally in the 30fps.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #61 on:** January 12, 2012, 12:29:07 AM »

Sub-20 is an icky icky range. If I had to dig deep to apologize and excuse it the same way I did for the Soul series, I'd say that as long as it doesn't fluctuate rapidly, I might be able to stomach it.

The only thing I'm really worried about is the difficulty of this game; I heard it was piss easy. The story on the other hand sounds so ridiculously bad, it might be good.

Bebpo · « **Reply #62 on:** January 12, 2012, 12:35:55 AM »

Well, it's better than the framerate in DS because it's turn-based so at least it doesn't affect gameplay like in DS.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #63 on:** January 12, 2012, 08:24:13 PM »

65% Seraphs Crown did the trick. Now on Orphan form 2.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #64 on:** January 13, 2012, 12:03:02 PM »

I beat FFXIII last night and tried the XIII-2 demo. WOW, the framerate is really jarring. Everything looks worse than XIII.

Himu · « **Reply #65 on:** January 13, 2012, 12:17:10 PM »

The art design is 10000 x better tho

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #66 on:** January 13, 2012, 01:01:26 PM »

Himu borrowing a page from the book of Ninthungus

Himu · « **Reply #67 on:** January 13, 2012, 01:09:26 PM »

art design > graphic fidelity

Despite being a graphic powerhouse, FF13 is very boring to look at.

Bebpo · « **Reply #68 on:** January 13, 2012, 01:14:17 PM »

Himuro smoking again.

XIII has lots of great art design. The Ice Sea, The ch.7 city, the dead city on Pulse, Cocoon in ch.13; very nice looking locations to run through in a boring corridor fashion.

XIII-2's art design is pretty similar from what I've seen. No real changes, just worse graphics.

Himu · « **Reply #69 on:** January 13, 2012, 01:36:35 PM »

They bore me. The few I'll give points to are Sunleth Waterscape, the crystal lake, and pulse.

13-2 actually has weather. You see that rain in the demo? That gives off a sense of atmosphere 13 never had.

demi · « **Reply #70 on:** January 13, 2012, 02:05:59 PM »

Only a few more weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeks

ZephyrFate · « **Reply #71 on:** January 13, 2012, 04:03:04 PM »

Quote from: Bebpo on January 13, 2012, 01:14:17 PM

Himuro smoking again.

XIII has lots of great art design. The Ice Sea, The ch.7 city, the dead city on Pulse, Cocoon in ch.13; very nice looking locations to run through in a boring corridor fashion.

XIII-2's art design is pretty similar from what I've seen. No real changes, just worse graphics.

XIII-2 has weather effects and the city of Academia, which trumps pretty much every locale in XIII.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #72 on:** January 13, 2012, 04:05:58 PM »

The first part of the XIII-2 demo was ugly tunnels and bridges and shit. Still pysched for it in a couple weeks, though.

magus · « **Reply #73 on:** January 13, 2012, 04:23:49 PM »

what's the name of the city with the chocobo's? that one was awesome

Himu · « **Reply #74 on:** January 13, 2012, 04:33:09 PM »

Quote from: Borys on January 13, 2012, 04:19:53 PM

Quote from: Stringer Bell on January 13, 2012, 01:09:26 PM
art design > graphic fidelity

Despite being a graphic powerhouse, FF13 is very boring to look at.

Please don't act dumb, Himu.

FF13 has superb looking locales:

Lake Bresha
Palumpolum (1st place)
Nautilus
The Palamecia
Gran Pulse - Taejin's Tower (3rd place)
Oerba Village (2nd place)
Eden

Note that I did not include Sunleth Waterscape in there cause it is ugly and boring.

most of those places are boring as hell. 13-2 art design stomps it and actually feels like a consistent world. You also brought up locales. What about the fashion? It's loose and random. What about the culture and how locales look? They look pretty standard. Compared to say, VIII, IX, or X, XIII is very, very boring to look at. Graphic fidelity doesn't make up for lack of imagination.

ZephyrFate · « **Reply #75 on:** January 13, 2012, 04:37:31 PM »

Quote from: magus on January 13, 2012, 04:23:49 PM

what's the name of the city with the chocobo's? that one was awesome

Xanadu.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #76 on:** January 13, 2012, 04:50:31 PM »

Serendipity

magus · « **Reply #77 on:** January 13, 2012, 05:00:18 PM »

Quote from: Borys on January 13, 2012, 04:28:31 PM

Gold Saucer

Quote from: Joe Molotov® EDGE™ on January 13, 2012, 04:50:31 PM

Serendipity

Quote from: ZephyrFate on January 13, 2012, 04:37:31 PM

Quote from: magus on January 13, 2012, 04:23:49 PM
what's the name of the city with the chocobo's? that one was awesome
Xanadu.

Bebpo · « **Reply #78 on:** January 13, 2012, 05:05:54 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on January 13, 2012, 04:33:09 PM

Quote from: Borys on January 13, 2012, 04:19:53 PM
Quote from: Stringer Bell on January 13, 2012, 01:09:26 PM
art design > graphic fidelity

Despite being a graphic powerhouse, FF13 is very boring to look at.

Please don't act dumb, Himu.

FF13 has superb looking locales:

Lake Bresha
Palumpolum (1st place)
Nautilus
The Palamecia
Gran Pulse - Taejin's Tower (3rd place)
Oerba Village (2nd place)
Eden

Note that I did not include Sunleth Waterscape in there cause it is ugly and boring.

most of those places are boring as hell. 13-2 art design stomps it and actually feels like a consistent world. You also brought up locales. What about the fashion? It's loose and random. What about the culture and how locales look? They look pretty standard. Compared to say, VIII, IX, or X, XIII is very, very boring to look at. Graphic fidelity doesn't make up for lack of imagination.

They're boring because of the gameplay in them. Not the art imo.

magus · « **Reply #79 on:** January 13, 2012, 05:08:36 PM »

the only part of FF13-2 that's probably worthwhile... still blows no candle to the original

ZephyrFate · « **Reply #80 on:** January 13, 2012, 05:09:25 PM »

aside from the fantastic gameplay, fantastic music, beautiful world design, actually good characters, actually good villain...

also XIII-2 chocobo racing is actually racing not just mashing buttons like in FFVII.

Himu · « **Reply #81 on:** January 13, 2012, 05:11:59 PM »

You guys keep talking about locales as if locales are the only that makes up art design.

Compare FFX's tribal clothing to FFXIII's random mishmash of mishmash.

Or the lush detail of FFXII's vistas and city design to FFXIII's Palompolum.

Being pretty technically sound does not make it visually interesting by itself. I mean, it looks neat, even pretty great, but it feels so uninspired and I expect better from Final Fantasy.

13-2 seems to hit the mark and has some consistency to the overall world and art design.

Himu · « **Reply #82 on:** January 13, 2012, 05:13:50 PM »

Quote from: magus on January 13, 2012, 05:08:36 PM

the only part of FF13-2 that's probably worthwhile... still blows no candle to the original

fuck the black chocobo

ZephyrFate · « **Reply #83 on:** January 13, 2012, 05:47:19 PM »

All of this >>> FFXIII.

magus · « **Reply #84 on:** January 13, 2012, 06:17:41 PM »

so the beach from FF13 >>>>>>>>> the beach from FF13

demi · « **Reply #85 on:** January 13, 2012, 07:04:49 PM »

well, yes. now that you can actually go beyond the beach.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #86 on:** January 14, 2012, 06:36:28 PM »

I playing the demo now

I have no idea what is happening, I think the game might be playing itself

Himu · « **Reply #87 on:** January 14, 2012, 07:07:09 PM »

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All of this >>> FFXIII.

wow none of that looks boring

ZephyrFate · « **Reply #88 on:** January 14, 2012, 07:34:32 PM »

I'm so excited for Academia. Fuck yeah best town ever.

outside of Esto Gaza

Himu · « **Reply #89 on:** January 14, 2012, 07:44:21 PM »

the best FF towns are Zozo, Midgar, Timber and Alexandria

ZephyrFate · « **Reply #90 on:** January 14, 2012, 07:51:39 PM »

no, maybe, no, no

Himu · « **Reply #91 on:** January 14, 2012, 07:55:02 PM »

Yes

Yes

Yes

andddd

Yes

and yes

ZephyrFate · « **Reply #92 on:** January 14, 2012, 08:01:24 PM »

no

discussion over.

Himu · « **Reply #93 on:** January 14, 2012, 08:03:51 PM »

That song owns but I don't remember that place at all? Oh wow, it's the ice town? Is it really a town?

Vizzys · « **Reply #94 on:** January 14, 2012, 08:15:12 PM »

yall makin me nostalgic

Vizzys · « **Reply #95 on:** January 14, 2012, 08:17:08 PM »

of back when final fantasy was good

ZephyrFate · « **Reply #96 on:** January 14, 2012, 08:19:17 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on January 14, 2012, 08:03:51 PM

That song owns but I don't remember that place at all? Oh wow, it's the ice town? Is it really a town?

It's a holy place next to Mt. Gulug. It's the best ice town in the series.

anyway, FFXIII-2

I love the bit around 2:30 where the song distorts Origa's vocals.

SantaC · « **Reply #97 on:** January 14, 2012, 08:51:11 PM »

best towns:

Narshe
Lindblum
Derling City
Ranabstre

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #98 on:** January 14, 2012, 11:05:29 PM »

Am I on crack or is that town you visit in the demo pretty blah

Positive Touch · « **Reply #99 on:** January 14, 2012, 11:06:33 PM »

fuck zozo for having no save points and a half hour cutscene at the end

ZephyrFate · « **Reply #100 on:** January 14, 2012, 11:33:30 PM »

Quote from: Sho Nuff on January 14, 2012, 11:05:29 PM

Am I on crack or is that town you visit in the demo pretty blah

Yes, you're on crack.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #101 on:** January 15, 2012, 12:16:44 AM »

Besha(?) Ruins is pretty blah, yeah. Every preview and video of the game involved the same area and boss fight, so the locale did nothing for me.

I've tried the demo again today, still excited for the game, but I realized how the camera really exposes the frame-rate's choppiness. By the time I was done, I was sick of it. I also feel the monster collecting aspect will get boring and repetitive quickly, if the uselessness of 75% of the monsters in the demo is indicative of anything.

Fortus · « **Reply #102 on:** January 16, 2012, 12:21:23 AM »

Quote from: Shaka Khan on January 15, 2012, 12:16:44 AM

...I also feel the monster collecting aspect will get boring and repetitive quickly, if the uselessness of 75% of the monsters in the demo is indicative of anything.

There's an SMT-lite system that allows you to "infuse" the crummy monsters into your frontline ones and transfer an attribute or ability.

ZephyrFate · « **Reply #103 on:** January 16, 2012, 08:55:34 PM »

Quote from: Borys on January 16, 2012, 09:05:46 AM

Supposedly you can get a SEN monster in the demo: the second kind of robot (not Hoplite). Extremely rare crystal drop, though.

Maybe normal Atlas could be defeated then with a very high level party?

You'd have to grind for quite a long time to defeat Atlas that way. It takes like 500,000 CP to max each role, and even just maxing one Role out won't give you enough HP to survive.

demi · « **Reply #104 on:** January 17, 2012, 02:36:18 PM »

American commercial

I guess it beats My Hands~

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