Author Topic: Jet Set Radio: XBLA/PSN/PC/iOS/Android/Vita (Read 18605 times)

Himu · « **Reply #120 on:** September 19, 2012, 10:42:09 AM »

CONGRATS EVERYONE WITH GOOD TASTE! WE MADE IT!

JET SET RADIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO (RADIO!)

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*drums*

bork · « **Reply #121 on:** September 19, 2012, 12:35:06 PM »

methodis

Robo · « **Reply #122 on:** September 19, 2012, 12:53:51 PM »

remember when rollerblading was cool, LOL

demi · « **Reply #123 on:** September 19, 2012, 01:02:56 PM »

Sonic Adventure 2 sponsored by SOAP

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #124 on:** September 19, 2012, 01:41:40 PM »

I used to rollerblade and hack Gibsons all the time

Has anyone gotten the PC version? Is the frame rate capped at 30 or can you jack that dirty fucker up

bork · « **Reply #125 on:** September 19, 2012, 03:23:35 PM »

Quote from: Sho Nuff on September 19, 2012, 01:41:40 PM

I used to rollerblade and hack Gibsons all the time

Has anyone gotten the PC version? Is the frame rate capped at 30 or can you jack that dirty fucker up

I thought the PC version was delayed?

Would definitely like to know if the frame rate can be altered!

bork · « **Reply #126 on:** September 19, 2012, 03:29:34 PM »

Never mind...I see people saying it's up on Steam.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #127 on:** September 19, 2012, 04:08:16 PM »

Apparently it's 30fps, da-da-derp

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #128 on:** September 19, 2012, 06:47:38 PM »

giantbomb agrees this game is not good anymore

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #129 on:** September 19, 2012, 07:00:34 PM »

will buy PC version for $2.50 once resolution and frame rate have been hacked

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #130 on:** September 19, 2012, 07:14:43 PM »

Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on September 19, 2012, 07:00:34 PM

will buy PC version for $2.50 once resolution and frame rate have been hacked

This

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #131 on:** September 19, 2012, 07:28:57 PM »

huh, methodis is right for once. You have my.... words. Which is like having my sword but the s is at the end.

Himu · « **Reply #132 on:** September 19, 2012, 07:37:41 PM »

Quote from: Thomas Householmes Lane on September 19, 2012, 06:47:38 PM

giantbomb agrees this game is not good anymore

Giantbomb is also shit at games.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #133 on:** September 19, 2012, 07:42:14 PM »

Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on September 19, 2012, 07:28:57 PM

huh, methodis is right for once. You have my.... words. Which is like having my sword but the s is at the end.

told ya

Himu · « **Reply #134 on:** September 19, 2012, 07:52:27 PM »

Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on September 19, 2012, 07:28:57 PM

huh, methodis is right for once. You have my.... words. Which is like having my sword but the s is at the end.

JSR HD's controls are much better than the Dreamcast versions. Half the problems with dreamcast version is the fact that the analog nub is utter shit.

I can do tricks that much faster and timely than in the DC version.

But of course, I'm sure you have never beaten JSR given your gaming skills have been weaned on Nintendo games.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #135 on:** September 19, 2012, 07:55:25 PM »

Giant bomb is really bad at JSR

What's keeping me from buying is the hitching, it was happening nonstop during the Quick Look

Himu · « **Reply #136 on:** September 19, 2012, 08:01:27 PM »

Good lord, Giantbomb are terrible at games.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #137 on:** September 19, 2012, 08:08:39 PM »

I'll still get the PC version as well just to support it. Plus maybe someone will mod it...

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #138 on:** September 19, 2012, 08:08:54 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on September 19, 2012, 07:52:27 PM

Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on September 19, 2012, 07:28:57 PM
huh, methodis is right for once. You have my.... words. Which is like having my sword but the s is at the end.

JSR HD's controls are much better than the Dreamcast versions. Half the problems with dreamcast version is the fact that the analog nub is utter shit.

I can do tricks that much faster and timely than in the DC version.

But of course, I'm sure you have never beaten JSR given your gaming skills have been weaned on Nintendo games.

The momentum and inertia isn't handled in what i would call a 'fun' way. Differences in analog sticks aren't going to change that. i can't remember if i ever beat jet grind radio, but i know i got up to one of the last levels before i had enough of it fiddliness. The level i got to was uh.... i think there was central platform. Around the platform were like spokes, but they were grind rails, i think they led to tag points and then you had to grind back to the central platform.

Himu · « **Reply #139 on:** September 19, 2012, 08:12:06 PM »

Don't worry, Emcee. I'm uploading a video to massacre both Giant Bomb and Methodis.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #140 on:** September 19, 2012, 08:14:34 PM »

Oh and the level design is shit. The motif and art and all that jazz is very endearing, but the actual part of the level design that dictates how the player gets around in an effecient manner? Very sloppy. Hell, there's one level with an alleyway that leads to an uncoded area and you fall forever, its not even hard to find.

Himu · « **Reply #141 on:** September 19, 2012, 08:16:45 PM »

Sounds like someone is testing me to record Fight or Flight JET score.

Himu · « **Reply #142 on:** September 19, 2012, 08:32:40 PM »

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #143 on:** September 19, 2012, 08:45:05 PM »

So it plays exactly the same (assuming this is your video). BARF
For the record, that run wasn't anything beyond my ability when I played the game, it just wasnt fun to control at all, albeit functional.

Himu · « **Reply #144 on:** September 19, 2012, 08:47:34 PM »

The run isn't to show that it's above anyone's ability. It's to show that the game is perfectly fine, it's a rebuttal to Giant Bomb, who are dog shit at the game, not you.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #145 on:** September 19, 2012, 09:31:32 PM »

so u literally have to be a autistic and play the game nonstop for it to be fun

sounds like sega fans alright

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #146 on:** September 19, 2012, 10:13:47 PM »

A good case in point about the level design being flawed. Most designers would make it so that walking up stairs in a rollerblading game was like a punishment that duly penalized you with much lost time by missing a jump or something like that. Often in jet grind radio you just simply have to walk up some stairs in the due course of things. Lame.

Himu · « **Reply #147 on:** September 19, 2012, 10:19:10 PM »

I went up the stairs because it works with my route. You can jump on top of the roofs if you want.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #148 on:** September 19, 2012, 10:50:45 PM »

It pertains to multiple levels.

Dude, can't you just admit you like a broken toy? that's perfectly fine, no need to tie an ego into it.

Robo · « **Reply #149 on:** September 19, 2012, 11:51:01 PM »

I think you might find it beneficial to step away from the keyboard for a moment and think about what it means to agree on a point with Methodis.

bork · « **Reply #150 on:** September 19, 2012, 11:54:04 PM »

Yeah, himu, can't you just admit that you totally like and are good at one of the best games of the last decade!? JEEZ DUDE!

Quote from: Robo on September 19, 2012, 11:51:01 PM

I think you might find it beneficial to step away from the keyboard for a moment and think about what it means to agree on a point with Methodis.

Point: Robo!

pilonv1 · « **Reply #151 on:** September 20, 2012, 12:17:09 AM »

Another "the 90s aren't last decade anymore" depression incoming

pilonv1 · « **Reply #152 on:** September 20, 2012, 07:47:03 AM »

Boy I suck at this. Took me nearly 1hr to finish the tutorial, that 50x combo was pretty elusive for a while. Kept getting stuck in the mid 30s on the second lap.

Robo · « **Reply #153 on:** September 20, 2012, 10:49:43 AM »

That 50x grind combo is a more challenging course than anything you'll need to do in the Story, unless I'm forgetting something specific—and I think the tutorial itself is completely unnecessary when the Rival challenges are perfectly suited to show you everything you need to know on their own. I didn't even know that turn-jump thing in the tutorial was a thing, never mind that it doesn't seem to work very well.

All you really need to know is the location of the sprays on each level. The cops always arrive after you finish a set number of red tags, so consider doing the big tags on the ground levels first (because those are the ones the cops are gonna harass you over once they arrive), save all the small tags for last.

bork · « **Reply #154 on:** September 20, 2012, 12:27:40 PM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on September 20, 2012, 12:10:24 AM

jet set radio is not from the last decade

it's from the decade before that

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000

Quote

The year 2000 was the first year of the 2000s decade. Popular culture holds the year 2000 as the first year of the 21st century and the 3rd millennium, due to a tendency to group the years according to decimal values, as if year zero were counted. According to the Gregorian Calendar this distinction falls to the year 2001, because the 1st century was retroactively said to start with year AD 1. Since the calendar has no year zero, its first millennium spans from years 1 to 1000, inclusively, and its second millennium from years 1001 to 2000. (See more at Millennium.)

But OK...one of the best games of the 90's and 2000's it is!

Himu · « **Reply #155 on:** September 20, 2012, 02:19:40 PM »

Some tips:

1. Try to learn the level first, fail a couple of times but learn the level layout, where all the tags are.

2. When tagging, go for big tags first. In about every level, you are chased by someone or something, and if you have big tags out of the way, it'll be a lot easier for you.

3. Combo moves together for more points.

4. Spray green tags for bonus points, these are not required but increase your score.

5. Spraying x amount of red tags makes the cops and the woodwork come out, keep this in mind and remember how many tags you've sprayed at any given time. There will always be a warning on the cop feed for when they're going to go all out. Green tags are good for this in later levels like Fight or Flight, because you may find yourself having to high tail it for red tags when you're being chased by dudes who are shooting the ever living fuck out of you.

6. Each character has their benefits. Gum is faster than Beat, but Beat has more health. Gum can hold 15 spray cans whereas Beat can hold 20 cans. Gum can less cans but her sprays are more elaborate compared to Beat's more simple tag motions, meaning more points. This means that Gum will net you more points than Beat and she's harder to play. The stats to keep in mind are power (health), technique (speed/tricks), and graffiti (graffiti can count/more elaborate graffiti). Try each character to find their subtleties and your own preferences. Personally, my favorite character is Pirahna, because she uses elaborate tag motions which result in extremely high points if used in combo, but some people may prefer Yo-Yo, who uses simple tags, but is fast, and can score you big points in his own unique way. So if you're struggling on a stage, try it with another character to fit the stage.

7. Try to use everything to platform, escape and maneuver on.

8. Use boost only when trying to get speed. Think of it like Sonic the Hedgehog. JSRF has no momentum or speed to account for, JSR does. It's like Sonic 1 compared to Mario 1. Mario's sense of gravity and momentum is non-existent, just like in JSRF's; but in Sonic, you need to go back uphill and gain some speed in order to go through that loop. JSR works the exact same way, try to notice when and why I use boost in the vid I posted, this is crucial. Always boost before railing.

9. Enjoy. Have fun!

Himu · « **Reply #156 on:** September 20, 2012, 03:32:06 PM »

Himu · « **Reply #157 on:** September 20, 2012, 05:17:41 PM »

lol

Giantbomb staff in regards to claim that they should quit games and get a new hobby because they're awful at vidya.

"@Himuro:

Dude I watched your video, and it made me realize why this game is so impossible for people. You're playing it like an adult. You get the cans. You spray the graffiti. You run from the cops. Stop it.

Fail. Keep pressing that jumping button. And don't stop. Try to jump from one place to another. It's fun. In that video you skate around the big round water holder. Don't do that. Grind around it. Jump on to the big round thing and wall ride. Have FUN. Who gives a fuck if you fail.

The game is insane and hard and janky. And trying to play it while being as cautious as possible is making the game way worse. The game was great as a kid because you played it so stupidly that it didn't matter if you failed. You had fun."

Robo · « **Reply #158 on:** September 20, 2012, 05:29:13 PM »

The achievements in this game are dumb. They have one, "start game for the first time", and another, "finish the game without anyone latching onto you with your first attempt." Like hell.

Himu · « **Reply #159 on:** September 20, 2012, 05:33:44 PM »

"Use all graffiti in missions"

Robo · « **Reply #160 on:** September 20, 2012, 06:00:43 PM »

The graffiti icon in the selection menu is dark until you use it, so it's possible to tell what's left. Still, going through that sluggish menu to change graffiti hundreds of times, potentially? Terrible achievement idea.

benjipwns · « **Reply #161 on:** September 20, 2012, 08:17:34 PM »

For what it's worth in the half hour or so I tried it I didn't notice any of the hitches from the Giant Bomb video on the PC version. Of course I didn't get to where they were in the game so no idea if it's those levels or what.

The trigger on the 360 pad was throwing me back to horrible lingering mental pain from the Dreamcast version, but the rest of the controller is so much nicer to use.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #162 on:** September 20, 2012, 08:48:24 PM »

Quote from: benjipwns on September 20, 2012, 08:17:34 PM

The trigger on the 360 pad was throwing me back to horrible lingering mental pain from the Dreamcast version, but the rest of the controller is so much nicer to use.

I was getting that too. But you don't get any of the wrist pain of holding a DC controller, so it's not as authentic.

Himu · « **Reply #163 on:** September 20, 2012, 08:52:42 PM »

For you achievement hunters who want to do most of everything on one run without having to dick around new game plus:

Here's a guide I made to getting Jet on Bantam Street with Cube. This is actually harder than you think because Cube and Combo's stats suck for getting Jet rank on Bantam. It wasn't a perfect run but you get the idea. I'll make one for a Jet ranking guide for Fight or Flight (hardest stage in the game) and Grind Square (second level in Chapter 2 of Combo and Cube) soon.

Himu · « **Reply #164 on:** September 22, 2012, 01:27:01 PM »

Robo · « **Reply #165 on:** September 23, 2012, 01:14:57 AM »

Only things I have left are to Jet every stage, which I probably won't do because Jet Crush is beyond frustrating, and finish the first run-through without anyone grabbing me, which I am definitely not going to do because that is a terrible achievement.

Himu · « **Reply #166 on:** September 23, 2012, 01:57:55 AM »

Haven't unlocked Pots yet.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #167 on:** September 23, 2012, 05:08:17 PM »

sshould i buy this shit or not

iirc I quit playing the original when tanks showed up, a nighttime stage with some kind of circular area with tanks in it and maybe some long grindable tracks around it? vague memory

Himu · « **Reply #168 on:** September 23, 2012, 05:34:29 PM »

That's Benten Boogie and at the very beginning of the game.

Game is great. Buy, buy, buy.

Robo · « **Reply #169 on:** September 23, 2012, 06:31:02 PM »

I am gonna have a meltdown trying to get Jet ratings on these Jet Crush stages.

Himu, help.

Himu · « **Reply #170 on:** September 23, 2012, 08:15:19 PM »

Use Mew or Tab.

Himu · « **Reply #171 on:** September 23, 2012, 08:23:34 PM »

Love Shockers have the highest technique stat. use them. Jet Crush is bullshit and I dunno how I'm gonna Jet em.

demi · « **Reply #172 on:** September 23, 2012, 08:24:30 PM »

I'll just go ask a real JSR pro...

Himu · « **Reply #173 on:** September 23, 2012, 08:28:01 PM »

It's hard for me to suggest doing Jet Crush unless you have Pots, Robo. Do you have Pots?

Himu · « **Reply #174 on:** September 23, 2012, 08:47:50 PM »

K Robo, I just Jet ranked half of the Jet Crush levels. Just pick someone fast and try to stay ahead of the person you're racing with the majority of the level. Try to tag it in 30-40 seconds and you should get Jet.

Robo · « **Reply #175 on:** September 23, 2012, 09:03:23 PM »

I have Pots. Are you taking the same path the A.I. takes or did you find shortcuts for the ones you were able to get Jet on?

Himu · « **Reply #176 on:** September 23, 2012, 10:01:19 PM »

In the case of Shibuya, don't take the shortcut, try to beat Beat at his own game using his own path until you get to the Love Shockers hill area, at least, where the tag is.

chronovore · « **Reply #177 on:** December 21, 2012, 12:10:03 AM »

PURCHASED.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #178 on:** December 21, 2012, 07:33:52 PM »

I'd have to replay the PS3 version I have, but the pop-in on Vita is pretty bad. Especially in the tutorial.

Also Himumu: Tips for momentum? I for the life of me can't grind the rails consistently.

Himu · « **Reply #179 on:** December 21, 2012, 07:46:13 PM »

Quote from: thisismyusername on December 21, 2012, 07:33:52 PM

I'd have to replay the PS3 version I have, but the pop-in on Vita is pretty bad. Especially in the tutorial.

Also Himumu: Tips for momentum? I for the life of me can't grind the rails consistently.

Watch this:

Don't hold the boost button. Boost gives you a five second or so boost, you hit it not like an accelerator but like a pump. Pump (hit LT to boost)... character slows down...Pump...slows down...pump. It's all in timing. Before you grind a rail, boost, and you will be momentum. Also, momentum is very gravity based. If you're going downhill you get insane speed, but going uphill is a battle. Try to use realistic use of physics and momentum. Only grind at full speed.

Also check out the beginning of this vid. See how I go in a circle to accumulate speed before grinding? There are a few speed tiers in JSR: basic slow skate, full speed without boost, boost, uphill, downhill, and via grind.

As for gaining speed on rails, here is a good example. Look at what I'm doing at 05:55 - 06:05. I start at a really slow speed, and realize I may fall off the rail if I don't get more speed, so I jump (do a trick) and keep doing that until I get enough momentum to a point where I'm comfortable. In JSR, to get more speed on rails, you must do tricks. More tricks equals more speed.

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Author Topic: Jet Set Radio: XBLA/PSN/PC/iOS/Android/Vita (Read 18605 times)