Author Topic: Elder Scrolls Online (Read 16665 times)

etiolate · « **Reply #60 on:** May 04, 2012, 06:48:28 PM »

http://www.gamebreaker.tv/mmorpg/elder-visions/

screens

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #61 on:** May 04, 2012, 09:27:41 PM »

Oh god hideous

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #62 on:** May 04, 2012, 09:55:11 PM »

STOP MAKING EVERY MMO EXACTLY THE SAME.

Himu · « **Reply #63 on:** May 04, 2012, 10:30:11 PM »

Buying. Day one. Please let me in the beta. I have such a huge boner right now. Holy fuck. Mmm. Cumming on every haters face right this second. Lick it up, Rumbler, Treesong, Triumph...yeah, you guys heard me. Lick it up. Mmm.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #64 on:** May 04, 2012, 10:30:32 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on May 04, 2012, 09:55:11 PM

STOP MAKING EVERY MMO EXACTLY THE SAME.

NEXT WOW BRO

I've never understood that statement, like being the next wow was something to aspire to.

edit: and there, right above me, is exhibit a in why they never should let idiots have money.

Himu · « **Reply #65 on:** May 04, 2012, 10:35:19 PM »

Sorry my spunk is so bitter, Triumph

It's my diet

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #66 on:** May 04, 2012, 10:36:44 PM »

People have been trying to create the "next WoW" since 2004. How's that working out, guys?

Himu · « **Reply #67 on:** May 04, 2012, 10:39:24 PM »

To be fair, ES has the fanbase to do just that.

Himu · « **Reply #68 on:** May 04, 2012, 10:40:56 PM »

My big want:

Blizz to make a Starcraft mmo. I think that'd be probably be really different from most mmo's in terms of aesthetic.

archie4208 · « **Reply #69 on:** May 04, 2012, 10:47:21 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on May 04, 2012, 10:39:24 PM

To be fair, ES has the fanbase to do just that.

Star Wars has a much larger fanbase than TES and the Tortanic has hit an iceberg.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #70 on:** May 04, 2012, 10:48:35 PM »

If I liked the genre I'm sure I would be excited by the announcement. But I just don't like mmo's.

As far as the "next" WoW I would argue there may not be a next one at least in this market. I think Wow came along at the right time and acquired the right market. I think the market is WoW. Not people who just genuinely love mmo's or anything. It's similar to the COD phenomenon. The appeal is the specific game for specific reasons. Not the genre.

archie4208 · « **Reply #71 on:** May 04, 2012, 10:49:55 PM »

The "next WoW" will never happen because the subscription model is on its way out. There are no upcoming games that can command a monthly fee and retain a healthy player base.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #72 on:** May 04, 2012, 10:50:43 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on May 04, 2012, 10:39:24 PM

To be fair, ES has the fanbase to do just that.

If you really think that, you're dumb enough to actually want to play another Shenmue. Oh wait shit-

But seriously, you've had a thread full of ES fans saying "no thanks" and you still honestly believe that? smh

Tasty · « **Reply #73 on:** May 04, 2012, 10:59:12 PM »

I bet ToR after one year will have a much bigger userbase than TESO after one year. Book it.

Himu · « **Reply #74 on:** May 04, 2012, 11:03:41 PM »

Quote from: archie4208 on May 04, 2012, 10:47:21 PM

Quote from: Stringer Bell on May 04, 2012, 10:39:24 PM
To be fair, ES has the fanbase to do just that.

Star Wars has a much larger fanbase than TES and the Tortanic has hit an iceberg.

Well, Star Wars Galaxies didn't too that great, either. I don't think every Star Wars game is going to be a success. However, Skyrim sold 9 million, many of which to Johnny Casual who DOES love multiplayer games. He may be all over this depending on how they advertise it. I'd say there's a bigger crossover between potential TES online players and Star Wars players. TES players are GAMERS. Star Wars players, well, that's a really diverse audience.

Quote from: archie4208 on May 04, 2012, 10:49:55 PM

The "next WoW" will never happen because the subscription model is on its way out. There are no upcoming games that can command a monthly fee and retain a healthy player base.

This, however, I agree with.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #75 on:** May 04, 2012, 11:20:26 PM »

There won't be a pure Next WoW. The game came out at the right time and dominated a market that is dying now. Sub based MMOs aren't going to work in the future most likely. The market is moving toward FTP. Eventually one of the many FTP is going to start dominating that market, just as there were a bunch of MOBA games competing until LoL took over (and now DOTA2 is on the horizon).

GW2 seems like the most polished, likely successor to the FTP market; yes I know it's not a traditional mmo.

Are people going to buy ES Online for $60, then pay $15/m to continue playing? It'll work for awhile then servers will be merged, just watched.

Tasty · « **Reply #76 on:** May 04, 2012, 11:40:11 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on May 04, 2012, 11:03:41 PM

Quote from: archie4208 on May 04, 2012, 10:47:21 PM
Quote from: Stringer Bell on May 04, 2012, 10:39:24 PM
To be fair, ES has the fanbase to do just that.

Star Wars has a much larger fanbase than TES and the Tortanic has hit an iceberg.

Well, Star Wars Galaxies didn't too that great, either. I don't think every Star Wars game is going to be a success. However, Skyrim sold 9 million, many of which to Johnny Casual who DOES love multiplayer games. He may be all over this depending on how they advertise it. I'd say there's a bigger crossover between potential TES online players and Star Wars players. TES players are GAMERS. Star Wars players, well, that's a really diverse audience.

Quote from: archie4208 on May 04, 2012, 10:49:55 PM
The "next WoW" will never happen because the subscription model is on its way out. There are no upcoming games that can command a monthly fee and retain a healthy player base.

This, however, I agree with.

The SWG comparison isn't really relevant, TOR hit 1 million subs in two weeks -- over double SWG's highest count ever, I believe. Currently around 1.7 mil (over two million sold in about a month from launch), with the most pessimistic predictions that it'll hit 1.25 mil in the next year. Honestly that's still a ton of people. SWTOR had some pretty trailers right out of the gate at least, all TESO has is some Dumbledore logo narration. I don't see TESO getting nearly as much hype (and thus subs) as TOR.

etiolate · « **Reply #77 on:** May 04, 2012, 11:45:19 PM »

Each failed WoW-clone hurts the chances of the next MMO. I think the MMO userbase will eventually splinter into multiple games with millions of users each, but every TOR and Warhammer makes people pessimistic of the next diku-clone.

People are still trying sub models though, so they aren't going away quite yet. If Guild Wars 2 succeeds at a high level then maybe that changes the consumer mindset.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #78 on:** May 04, 2012, 11:58:02 PM »

Quote from: archie4208 on May 04, 2012, 10:49:55 PM

The "next WoW" will never happen because the subscription model is on its way out. There are no upcoming games that can command a monthly fee and retain a healthy player base.

This is what puzzles me the most about this game. It's the absolute worst time to announce it.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #79 on:** May 05, 2012, 01:45:15 AM »

Quote from: etiolate on May 04, 2012, 11:45:19 PM

Each failed WoW-clone hurts the chances of the next MMO.

Wow, it's almost like I'm behind everything

etiolate · « **Reply #80 on:** May 05, 2012, 02:17:22 AM »

From Gamespy article
http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/elder-scrolls-online/1224380p1.html

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #81 on:** May 05, 2012, 02:24:10 AM »

$:-\$

I never asked for this

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #82 on:** May 05, 2012, 02:26:09 AM »

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #83 on:** May 05, 2012, 02:27:51 AM »

WHAT SAY YOU NOW, HIMUMU?

HUH

HUH

HUH

WHUT

Himu · « **Reply #84 on:** May 05, 2012, 02:28:54 AM »

That's a terrible article.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #85 on:** May 05, 2012, 02:34:30 AM »

showing new MMOs in early alpha/beta rarely works

pilonv1 · « **Reply #86 on:** May 05, 2012, 02:35:54 AM »

"P3n1sMage"

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #87 on:** May 05, 2012, 05:57:48 AM »

pilonv1 · « **Reply #88 on:** May 05, 2012, 09:19:43 AM »

You forgot the fact there's going to be a THIRD The Marine movie this year.

Momo · « **Reply #89 on:** May 05, 2012, 01:01:22 PM »

Quote from: pilonv1 on May 05, 2012, 09:19:43 AM

You forgot the fact there's going to be a THIRD The Marine movie this year.

I hope this becomes the WWE's version of The Spirits Within

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #90 on:** May 05, 2012, 01:10:30 PM »

(snort)

magus · « **Reply #91 on:** May 05, 2012, 03:03:10 PM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 05, 2012, 06:02:16 AM

Quote from: magus on May 04, 2012, 04:29:53 PM
this discussion always annoy me so much

"why are they doing X? this has nothing to do with X other than the name!"
"don't you know? X sold 24345 bajilliards of copies,it makes perfect sense to me"

no i'm sorry,i don't care,do it right or don't do it at all,movie have learned that after doing highlander 2
http://spoonyexperiment.com/2010/05/20/highlander-2-the-quickening-review-part-1/
how many games it's going to take before they learn too?

Highlander 3, Highlander Endgame, Highlander the Source, TMNT 3, Batman Forever, Batman and Robin, Spider-Man 3, Green Lantern, Daredevil, MIB2, Rush Hour 3, Ang Lee's Hulk, Cars 2, X-Men 3, X-Men Origins, Alien 3, Alien 4, Superman Returns, every Disney direct to video sequel ever, Matrix Reloaded, Matrix Revolutions, Pirates of the Caribbean 2, 3, and 4, Shrek 3, Shrek 4, Star Wars Episodes 1 and 2, Star Trek 5, 7, and 9, Fantastic Four, Fantastic Four 2, Ghost Rider, Catwoman, The Punisher, Lara Croft Tomb Raider and TR2, the entire Resident Evil franchise, Doom, Mortal Kombat 2, City Slickers 2, Street Fighter, Street Fighter: Chun Li, Dead or Alive, Turbo: A Power Rangers Movie, Darkman 2 and 3, The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Max Payne, Judge Dredd, Garfield 1 and 2, Chipmunks 1-3, Hitman, Another Stakeout, Yogi Bear, Dragonball Evolution, Saws 4-7... this is getting boring

the point is movies learn about as well as magoose

point is when they announce "THE TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES ARE NOW ALIENS" movie fans go in the proper bitchy mode that should follow,when that happens to game people nods and say "meh,makes sense to me,it's popular!"
besides aren't half of those movie like ancient history rooted in 19XX?

Himu · « **Reply #92 on:** May 05, 2012, 03:09:54 PM »

magus · « **Reply #93 on:** May 05, 2012, 03:18:52 PM »

http://screenrant.com/teenage-mutan-ninja-turtles-aliens-michael-bay-sandy-160115/

Proper Response:

Wrong Response:

"haven't you eaten the TMNT cereals back when you were a kid? don't you realize how popular it was?"

anyway let me elaborate a little better,i didn't mean that movie have no shame at all but they feel less shameless,there are sacred cows that get untouched and revered,like fight club but in gaming? not a chance nor it never feels like they try to force stuff simply because "it's going to make more money" was there ever a movie that had a certain script and then they replaced the main character with batman because batman is popular?

in gaming stuff like this has become common place,these thing are rapidly approaching the same level of shame of those stupid parody "XXXXX Movies" (man that's a good analogy,we should put it in the news feed) and it bothers me people are accepting this with a resounding "eh"

Verdigris Murder · « **Reply #94 on:** May 05, 2012, 05:41:37 PM »

Cool beans. The best mmo exp. I had was with PDZ, online in the early days was a total blast. No dweebs, just so much fun.

Himu · « **Reply #95 on:** May 05, 2012, 07:00:04 PM »

what does ninja turtles have to do with this at all

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #96 on:** May 06, 2012, 12:49:57 AM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on May 05, 2012, 07:00:04 PM

what does ninja turtles have to do with this at all

something something weeaboo culture rotting his mind something something

magus · « **Reply #97 on:** May 06, 2012, 06:09:52 AM »

i'm no movie expert,i mentioned highlander 2 not because it was the last whoring out movie i could think of but because it's the first movie i could think of where they screwed up the initial premise as bad as possible,but syndicate turning into an fps? that's recent history

and yes,pointing out the obvious "it's because it's popular" at the question "this is stupid,why are they doing it" it's the same as saying "i'm okay with that"

magus · « **Reply #98 on:** May 06, 2012, 06:21:26 AM »

oscar ->

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #99 on:** May 06, 2012, 12:29:06 PM »

-Elder Scrolls is popular
-MMOs are popular
-MMOs offer a steady source of income beyond the initial purchase

ZOMG GUYS WHY IS THEY MAKING AN ELDAR SCROLLS MMMO HOW DUBM LOOOLLOL

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #100 on:** May 06, 2012, 02:56:11 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on May 06, 2012, 12:29:06 PM

-Elder Scrolls is popular
-MMOs are popular
-MMOs offer a steady source of income beyond the initial purchase

ZOMG GUYS WHY IS THEY MAKING AN ELDAR SCROLLS MMMO HOW DUBM LOOOLLOL

Uh because the sub mmo model is dying rapidly, and only one sub mmo is successful?

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #101 on:** May 06, 2012, 05:57:41 PM »

Everybody wants to hit the MMO jackpot.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #102 on:** May 06, 2012, 08:11:25 PM »

Everybody should be doing their research. Themepark MMOs are a wasteland now, the WOW casuals have come and gone and that lightning in a bottle will never be captured again.

Funny that EVE is still going strong and increasing subscribers after 9 years. Maybe aiming to be succcessful with 100k subscribers in an MMO with no real end game is better than trying to swing for the fences and get 1million subs with a themepark MMO whose only point of difference is character designs.

etiolate · « **Reply #103 on:** May 06, 2012, 10:08:29 PM »

It's a matter of how much it cost you versus how many people tossing you dollars you need to survive. TOR's 1 million + audience is nice, but the only concern is how much the project cost to make and if that's enough to satisfy the investment. Rift doesn't have huge WoW-like subscriber numbers, but it wasn't as huge an investment as TOR (as far as I remember) and Trion seems happy with the subscriber base they have. According to reports, LOTRO has become a bigger money maker since going F2P.

Maybe there will be a new "King", but I feel it is more likely the MMO playerbase will splinter into multiple smaller groups.

Freyj · « **Reply #104 on:** May 06, 2012, 11:51:38 PM »

I'm not really sure anything can be said about the state of MMOs when essentially every new MMO that comes out is a shittier version of The Burning Crusade with some gimmick or another (Public Quests, Full VA, Rift's Rifts and Talent System...thing, etc.). TERA tried different combat ideas but is the same old shit at its core. Guild Wars 2 deserves some credit for trying to break the mold, but its fans are somewhat obnoxious for this.

I've yet to play an MMO that takes what WoW did and make it better, ala EQ -> WoW. Most of the people I know that I played UO, EQ, XI and even early WoW with are extremely jaded now, myself included. A good portion of them just don't care for the genre anymore. The community aspect of it all is dead now anyway I suppose.

etiolate · « **Reply #105 on:** May 07, 2012, 12:47:08 AM »

I am sooo not obnoxious.

Freyj · « **Reply #106 on:** May 07, 2012, 10:10:52 AM »

Quote from: etiolate on May 07, 2012, 12:47:08 AM

I am sooo not obnoxious.

Not really talking about you. You're capable of coherent arguments unlike the majority of the active posters in the GAF GW2 thread.

etiolate · « **Reply #107 on:** May 07, 2012, 02:12:53 PM »

yeah they're a bit too much

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #108 on:** May 07, 2012, 02:24:10 PM »

I'm not going to join their guild, and I only enter the thread to make minor points or ask questions. Any criticism of the game is met with a barrage of obliviousness and dismissal. Seems like no one there has a problem with the UI, target system, etc.

I guess I'll wait for it to become as jaded as the WoW thread, which is more entertaining.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #109 on:** May 07, 2012, 02:32:16 PM »

Titan is the next step no doubt.

Quote from: pilonv1 on May 06, 2012, 08:11:25 PM

Everybody should be doing their research. Themepark MMOs are a wasteland now, the WOW casuals have come and gone and that lightning in a bottle will never be captured again.

Funny that EVE is still going strong and increasing subscribers after 9 years. Maybe aiming to be succcessful with 100k subscribers in an MMO with no real end game is better than trying to swing for the fences and get 1million subs with a themepark MMO whose only point of difference is character designs.

Word.

If they would have gone this route for Elder Scrolls they'd capture a very steady crowd for a long time.

Tasty · « **Reply #110 on:** May 07, 2012, 02:39:46 PM »

Quote from: Premium Lager on May 07, 2012, 02:32:16 PM

Titan is the next step no doubt.

Wrong. It's all about MapleStory 2.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #111 on:** May 07, 2012, 02:39:53 PM »

Depends on what Titan actually is. Is it a sci fi MMO? First person? Is it another fantasy romp? Does WoW go FTP once Titan launches? Who knows

archie4208 · « **Reply #112 on:** May 07, 2012, 03:07:37 PM »

Isn't Titan going to be F2P from the outset? I doubt it will be a WoWish MMO.

cool breeze · « **Reply #113 on:** May 07, 2012, 03:35:49 PM »

Titan should let players crew a spaceship. Really elevate that deep chat room experience.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #114 on:** May 07, 2012, 03:43:52 PM »

Apparently the game will have lots of product placement, so I'd imagine it won't be a fantasy/medieval setting.

archie4208 · « **Reply #115 on:** May 07, 2012, 04:01:25 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on May 07, 2012, 03:43:52 PM

Apparently the game will have lots of product placement, so I'd imagine it won't be a fantasy/medieval setting.

Who's to say that dragons and wizards can't enjoy a refreshing Coca-Cola?

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #116 on:** May 07, 2012, 04:23:54 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on May 07, 2012, 03:43:52 PM

Apparently the game will have lots of product placement, so I'd imagine it won't be a fantasy/medieval setting.

Who says that? As far as I know the only thing they said so far is that it will have a broader appeal then the raid centric WoW.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #117 on:** May 07, 2012, 04:24:04 PM »

Quote from: archie4208 on May 07, 2012, 04:01:25 PM

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on May 07, 2012, 03:43:52 PM
Apparently the game will have lots of product placement, so I'd imagine it won't be a fantasy/medieval setting.

Who's to say that dragons and wizards can't enjoy a refreshing Coca-Cola?

etiolate · « **Reply #118 on:** May 07, 2012, 04:26:48 PM »

GW2 is the next step

Have no idea what Titan is, but so far it has no established world associated with it. It's been awhile since Blizzard has attempted creating a new universe for a game.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #119 on:** May 07, 2012, 04:28:09 PM »

GW2 is ok, but dev not the EQ > WoW step.

Really curious to what Titan will be and how it will look, a stylized look is a given as all Blizzards games have this.

News:

Author Topic: Elder Scrolls Online (Read 16665 times)