Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced

[Cormacaroni]

Win8/Metro does indeed make iOS look cluttered.

You better see this then:

http://pocketnow.com/2012/06/17/which-looks-better-a-comparison-between-popular-apps-on-ios-and-windows-phone/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Yeah, saw that on FB yesterday, thanks. More striking on a bigger screen and in motion of course. That cocktail demo, ferrinstance.

[recursivelyenumerable]

the worst part of this was the "3 months after Windows 8 GA" for the Pro version 

[AdmiralViscen]

what is the screen res?

Those keyboards aren't portable and don't attach to the tablet...

This tablet has Bluetooth and a USB port

[Cormacaroni]

they said full HD, true widescreen so 1080p I guess

[AdmiralViscen]

On something awful forum they are saying 1366x768

[Van Cruncheon]

Look, all I need to know is... will any version of this fucker run Steam?

yes, the pro model.

[Van Cruncheon]

the RTard edition (arm) is 1366x768

the pro edition (core i5) i BELIEVE is 1920x1080

[Madrun Badrun]

Look, all I need to know is... will any version of this fucker run Steam?

yes, the pro model.

but will it run the actual games?

[Van Cruncheon]

Look, all I need to know is... will any version of this fucker run Steam?

yes, the pro model.

but will it run the actual games?

yes, win8 desktop is fully compatible with win7

the core i5 ulv ivy bridge has an hd4000, half of you sad fux play on macbook airs and this will be as fast as a modern macbook air

(but POSSIBLY with a 1080p display )

[AdmiralViscen]

the RTard edition (arm) is 1366x768

the pro edition (core i5) i BELIEVE is 1920x1080

Some journalist tweeted that when he tried to get to the resolution settings screen on the pro, they took it away from him.

[Madrun Badrun]

Look, all I need to know is... will any version of this fucker run Steam?

yes, the pro model.

but will it run the actual games?

yes, win8 desktop is fully compatible with win7

the core i5 ulv ivy bridge has an hd4000, half of you sad fux play on macbook airs and this will be as fast as a modern macbook air

(but POSSIBLY with a 1080p display )

o missed that its a core i5.  I actually might get this.

[cool breeze]

so it is a PC inside a tablet body?

that's pretty cool.  if it runs steam, what types of games can you get running on it? any chance of Civ 4?

[Stoney Mason]

so it is a PC inside a tablet body?

that's pretty cool.  if it runs steam, what types of games can you get running on it? any chance of Civ 4?

Eric Neustadter, from Xbox Live Operations, tweeted colloquially that it could run Civ IV and V, unlike the iPad, and that it will be "the greatest Civilization-playing device known to mankind."

[cool breeze]

that's amazingly specific haha

[Eel O'Brian]

http://www.displaywars.com/9,7-inch-4x3-vs-10,6-inch-16x9

Screen dimension compared to iPad.

[Pringo]

Just checked out the stuff from this conference and I'm kind of surprised that this actually looks like a fairly compelling product. Maybe I shouldn't be as MS generally seems to make solid hardware, it's just an issue when they do it too little too late (ex. the Zune line). The keyboard/case idea is pretty ingenious. Although, I am still kind of hesitant regarding the Intel version running vanilla Windows 8. Classic software built for desktop Windows is always going to be shitty with a touch interface and I realize there's the stand and keyboard but why not just buy an ultrabook instead if you're going to do that? I guess it's another attempt at the hybrid tablet/notebook thing but I'm still not really convinced yet that it's a good idea.

Also I like that MS is really going after the areas where the iPad is fairly weak. Physical keyboard and pen input both look cool. If the tablet can detect sensitivity levels for the pen and that can be used for programs like Photoshop and other art software that in itself would be pretty killer.

And someone should really move this thread to the OT.

[Stoney Mason]

I  honestly don't have any real use for this device that isn't already covered by my ipad and laptop but depending on the price I might still pick one up.

[Cormacaroni]

Smart Glass makes a bit more sense eh

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I'm glad I waited on buying an iPad.

[Huff]

I'm glad I waited on buying an iPad.

Same. little nervous about the price though

[TakingBackSunday]

Eh, why?  They really aren't that similar of devices other than a touch screen.  Closest thing is a Transformer.  The distinguished mentally-challenged version may compare to an iPad, but at that point it depends on what you want more: app variations or user interface.  And even then, some of the metro design choices really irk me.

The Pro version is a super-ultrabook basically.  With that amount of power, I would probably always keep the keyboard attached, because FUCK touchscreen usage on a standard windows interface (aka not metro).

So basically:

iPad:Surface RT

MBA:Surface Pro

So they really do feel like two separate products with a much more cohesive design.

Eh I don't know.  I wanna play with one of these things.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I'm glad I waited on buying an iPad.

Same. little nervous about the price though

I'm also concerned about how well they might support this thing.  With the Zune HD, they pretty much dropped the thing and ran after a couple of months.  At least with Apple, you know they will stick around for a while.

[MCD]

Funny how this thread is bigger and better received than any Windows 8 thread at the hot dog bar.

[chronovore]

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Works with a stylus, digital ink

Actually, that's just a normal pen.

[MCD]

I was quoting neowin there.

[Sho Nuff]

unf unf unf

this is totally happening

[Cormacaroni]

FREE SURFACES FOR ALL!

[Human Snorenado]

Funny how this thread is bigger and better received than any Windows 8 thread at the hot dog bar.

New OS = booooooring

New tech = why hello thar

[DCharlieJP]

one of the complaints i've seen repeatedly seems to be that there IS a fully functioning OS therefore that is bad

I guess i see what people are saying but isn't that a good thing long term?

the complaint seems to be comping with "installing drivers and stuff and virus and all that! Who needs another PC!? I'll stick with ipad! um..."

[pilonv1]

This thing is going to cost a ridiculous amount of money.

And I want it.

Only problem is the Football Manager devs posted on twitter this morning that they have no idea how they'll run it on Surface since it wont have enough ram or hard drive space

[Cormacaroni]

This thing is going to cost a ridiculous amount of money.

And I want it.

Only problem is the Football Manager devs posted on twitter this morning that they have no idea how they'll run it on Surface since it wont have enough ram or hard drive space

Well, a USB flash drive should take care of the latter...

[pilonv1]

True. Can't get around the RAM issue though.

[frod]

How much RAM does it have then? 

[AdmiralViscen]

I'm glad I waited on buying an iPad.

Same. little nervous about the price though

I'm also concerned about how well they might support this thing.  With the Zune HD, they pretty much dropped the thing and ran after a couple of months.  At least with Apple, you know they will stick around for a while.

They ran with Zune for like 4-5 years, 3 hardware iterations, before calling it quits. And this is just Windows 8 in nice hardware, they aren't dropping windows 8.

[MrSingh]

Pro version here I cum! ... once I have a job that is!

[tiesto]

Sounds really cool and much more interesting than an iPad. Would be great for a portable Steam platform... but I hope MS doesn't drop it like the Zune HD (another great piece of tech).

[DCharlieJP]

portable all in one emu device plus ability to play vertical games easily is making me need to know the price (even though the DM1Z can do all that already lol)

[maxy]

It runs full blown Windows.

[Dickie Dee]

Are the touch cover and type cover two separate devices, or two sides of the same cover (think it's the former but nowhere has explicitly stated it).

[Diunx]

Windows 8? pass faster than the speed of diarrhea.

[brob]

hella sexy

[Joe Molotov]

It's Pro version vs. Tard Pack all over again.

[Van Cruncheon]

It runs full blown Windows.

My shitty little 11" netbook runs Windows 7 Ultimate.

it runs win8 *fast*. does your netbook boot windows in under 5 seconds?

[MCD]

Is your Netbook cock touch friendly?

[Madrun Badrun]

Van likes it hot

[bork]

portable all in one emu device plus ability to play vertical games easily is making me need to know the price (even though the DM1Z can do all that already lol)

Sorry, haven't looked at the specs- this tablet will have USB ports?

[Dickie Dee]

yes

[chronovore]

portable all in one emu device plus ability to play vertical games easily is making me need to know the price (even though the DM1Z can do all that already lol)

Sorry, haven't looked at the specs- this tablet will have USB ports?

One of the articles said two, full-sized USB ports. That's neat-o.

[pilonv1]

And the Pro version is USB 3.0

[DCharlieJP]

yeah, USB means we should be on for wired/wireless with dongle Xbox controllers

again - i might just DM1Z it but if i could have this with enough umph to run up to PS2 emu ...

[Cormacaroni]

ah, the quest for the mystical emulate-everything box continues

[DCharlieJP]

ah, the quest for the mystical emulate-everything box continues

well, it's a never ending target but an ipad form factor emu tablet that could cover all the way up to PS2 would be of epic.

At the moment, a hacked vita might be the more sexy but ... them pirates are being lazy!

[Cormacaroni]

Quick, name a PS2 game you played recently for more than 15 mins

[DCharlieJP]

Quick, name a PS2 game you played recently for more than 15 mins

Ibara, Mushihimesama and Dragon Quest 8 (last one emulated )

though in the last week the Profeel monitor died and has since been marched off to the big tip in the sky and i have no plans to replace it. So i can see PS2 dropping off - Ibara i gave a run out because i'm going to sell it soon, Mushihimesama because i haven't bothered with the X360 version and wanted to revisit and DQ8 because it's one of those games i converted over and wanted to test out.

I agree with your point though - most of the games on PS2 are dead and won't be revisited. If i don't have time to play, say, Dragon's Dogma why on earth would i make time to play - say - Rule of Rose?

Hence why Emulation of PS2 is a god send. Load up Alcohol120%, insert disk, burninate to HDD, sell game. If i ever win the lottery and want to go back and play some of these games i can emulate them (within reason, some wont work some will...) and if we ever get to a handheld that can run them then they are there on hand + i'll have some cash from their sale.

[Cormacaroni]

And in the meantime....let's light a giant bonfire of money and buy some SCHUWEET new hardware!

[DCharlieJP]

And in the meantime....let's light a giant bonfire of money and buy some SCHUWEET new hardware!

well, i'm totally smoking the pipe of dreams here. The fantasy is that i buy a new monster desktop and a pant bulging surface.

The REALITY is that i'll be using the DM1Z and shutting my c***mouth! lol.

[MCD]

http://www.neowin.net/news/hands-on-windows-surface-rt

Microsoft just got done unveiling its best kept secret in years and we got a few minutes with the device and came away modestly impressed.
 
We got to play with the RT version of the tablet and it feels like it was carved from a rock. All around, it was sturdy, showed little flex in the casing, and was simply a rock solid piece of hardware.
 
A nice little touch is that if you attach a blue Touch Cover to the device, it will change the theme to match the cover. Additionally, the kickstand was magnificent and did not feel flimsy by any means.
 
Microsoft also went all out by dropping a little bit of water on to the tablet. As you might expect, the water balled up and rolled right off. Microsoft said that it will handle grubby fingers with ease and apparently even tested it with ketchup and mustard.
 
The touch cover felt good in the hands and typing was a good experience in general, firm, responsive keys mended nicely to your fingertips.
 
To be blunt, we have never felt a tablet as sturdy as this one and that includes the iPad. It is quite a masculine tablet with its chiseled edges and gunmetal covering and we walked away impressed, ready to buy.
 
Our time with the tablet was quite brief and we should note that until we get time to spend a few days with the device, we can't give it a proper review.

[Himu]

dcharlie no way this thing runs pcx2

[MCD]

PS2 emulator sux even on my rig.

[DCharlieJP]

dcharlie no way this thing runs pcx2

well, my MBP2010 does a good stab at a fair number of games. Tekken 5 isn't going to run at anything beyond 22 or so FPS but for DQ8 ? Perfectly fine.

I guess the way to go is with an actual good laptop instead.