Pro Wrasslin' Thread: I don't know what I just saw

[Trent Dole]

There's plenty of intergender stuff on the indies but hey it's cool some of it is on TV now via AEW which is ...basically a bunch of indie people.

[Stro]

Wwe did intergender at Wrestlemania with the COO getting rekt by a woman. They've also done 2 seasons of exclusively mixed tags in the last 2 years.

[TVC15]

They called Jon moxley the “big boss” on AEW as he’s stomping around in his shitty Metal Gear cosplay. I hope somebody is outraged at this mockery of the business.

[Human Snorenado]

Actually, equating AEW to being the Kojima of the wrasslin world totally works for me as both have completely incomprehensible narratives

[TVC15]

Are they trying to do a we-know-it’s-bad thing with Brit Baker at this point like WWE does with Corbin?

[Stro]

Uh....


This tall, white, blonde woman who has a move called "natural selection" and talks about being genetically superior telling a black woman to get out of the way and fix her braid is pretty sus as hell. Shades of HHH and Booker T. Or Harley Race and any black wrestler ever.

[TVC15]

Well, they also just had her break the teeth of one of Kenny’s fetish Japanese schoolgirls in a post-match heel dessert assault. Kenny has this one wearing what look to be pastel colored garbage bags.

[Stro]

A dentist heel who breaks her opponent's teeth so she can get extra scratch doing emergency surgery on them after the show


That would be the best gimmick in AEW tbh

[remy]

A dentist heel who breaks her opponent's teeth so she can get extra scratch doing emergency surgery on them after the show


That would be the best gimmick in AEW tbh

Gotta respect the hustle

Was that a fan jumping mjf at the end there?  kayfabe lives

[TVC15]

This bucks/omega/page vs lucha/Bitcher and Blade match is really what AEW is all about man. I’m pretty sure I even saw Rey Fenix do a pirouette at one point.

[Tripon]

A dentist heel who breaks her opponent's teeth so she can get extra scratch doing emergency surgery on them after the show


That would be the best gimmick in AEW tbh

Gotta respect the hustle

Was that a fan jumping mjf at the end there?  kayfabe lives

https://twitter.com/MelsAEW/status/1225259340489203712

[Stro]

That's the second time they've had a plant attack or throw something at MJF


The diminishing returns on that dude have been insane. The first time I saw him in MLW he screamed instant star and every single time I've seen him since I've been less impressed than the time before. Dude is a straight up sitcom parody of an 80s/early 90s heel and his whole gimmick is so wink wink HE'S A REAL HEEL GUYS CAN YA BELIEVE IT, A REAL HEEL IN 2020 but he'll never even be as good as Miz was at his peak.

[TVC15]

I don’t even know what’s going on in this bad Janutella v Kip Sabian match. It’s worse than Sabian’s child abuse match the other night for sure.

[TVC15]

These belt whips are pathetic too. They’re so weak—I can guarantee you that you did worse shit to the runty one in your friend group as a youth. But Cody is writhing around like he’s Jesus carrying the cross

[TVC15]

dp

[bork]

Dream is back 

[nachobro]

wwe financials came out
https://corporate.wwe.com/investors/news/press-releases/2020/02-06-2020-132933376

revenues were up 18% & operating income is up 87% (fox deal + approx 17 mil for nxt), and cash flow is doubled. basically everything else is down: network subs, live shows, and merch. they did about 30 less live shows, mostly less in north america. international live show money is up even with less events, north american is down overall.

As we work to strengthen engagement in 2020, we are pursuing several strategic initiatives that could increase the monetization of our content, including the distribution of content in the Middle East and India as well as strategic alternatives for our direct-to-consumer service, WWE Network.

curious what these alternatives to the network will be

[Pissy F Benny]

 

[TVC15]

The weekly Omega rant on the 2/5 Cornette Experience is amazing.

He compares Meltzer to a Republican lying to the masses for hyping him!

“He shouldve had his legs broken and he shouldve been run off, but that’s just me.”
 - Jim Cornette on Kenny Olivier as a wrestler

[Pissy F Benny]

Looking forward to listening when I get home 

I love how he directs most of his ire at Olivier when he's just a fairly unassuming weeb nerd, when the Young Bucks are far more objectionable all around.

[Stro]

Jim Cornette's entire gimmick makes no sense. He's a guy about people exposing the business as he runs a show dedicated entirely to exposing the business and pretty much his entire living over the past 15 years or so has been doing shoot interviews and conventions.

[TVC15]

Looking forward to listening when I get home 

I love how he directs most of his ire at Olivier when he's just a fairly unassuming weeb nerd, when the Young Bucks are far more objectionable all around.

Oh, it spills over into the whole crew. Khan gets called a “money mark” like every 30 seconds. It’s towards the beginning of the show, but it will prob show up on YT.

[Stro]

Vince is apparently thinking about selling off PPV rights to some other OTT streaming service, effectively knee capping the main selling point for the Network (Most recent PPVs and NXT are always the top two shows, NXT is now on TV). They're also still working on a higher tier that won't include the live PPVs but will have like...merch sales or some shit?


The fuck? He fired the presidents and then is openly thinking about tanking the thing he's built his company around for the past 5 years?  And is going to be spending most of his time on the XFL with no one to run the company? The vote of no confidence angle about to happen IRL.

[Tripon]

https://www.foxnews.com/us/ex-mississippi-welfare-director-arrested-accused-taking-funds-pay-ex-wwe-wrestlers-rehab

[Pissy F Benny]

Vince is apparently thinking about selling off PPV rights to some other OTT streaming service, effectively knee capping the main selling point for the Network (Most recent PPVs and NXT are always the top two shows, NXT is now on TV). They're also still working on a higher tier that won't include the live PPVs but will have like...merch sales or some shit?


The fuck? He fired the presidents and then is openly thinking about tanking the thing he's built his company around for the past 5 years?  And is going to be spending most of his time on the XFL with no one to run the company? The vote of no confidence angle about to happen IRL.

That would be insane, who the fuck is gonna pay for ppvs again when you’ve got them plus a shit load of archive footage and all that for a 6th of the price us.

Plus the network probably wouldn’t be worth keeping around for them from a cost point of view if a shit load of people ditch it cuz there’s no more live ppvs on it, and you’re left with only hardcores who like watching old nitros n shit.

[TVC15]

Vince is apparently thinking about selling off PPV rights to some other OTT streaming service, effectively knee capping the main selling point for the Network (Most recent PPVs and NXT are always the top two shows, NXT is now on TV). They're also still working on a higher tier that won't include the live PPVs but will have like...merch sales or some shit?


The fuck? He fired the presidents and then is openly thinking about tanking the thing he's built his company around for the past 5 years?  And is going to be spending most of his time on the XFL with no one to run the company? The vote of no confidence angle about to happen IRL.

Vince must think if AEW can get 50 a PPV, WWE can probably be getting a lot more than 9.99 a month.

[Stro]

Idk math but $9.99 x 1M+ a month seems like a lot more than $50 x 100,000 every 4 months with a significant chunk going to providers and B/R Live.

[nachobro]

damn if they remove ppv from the network i'll actually cancel it and i've been a mark paying for it since day one

however this is also the first quarter where subs have dipped under 1mil (to like 960k but still) so maybe that's got him shook

[Pissy F Benny]

A better idea probably would’ve been to not book smackdown immediately into the ground after they got some buzz with the fox move 

[TVC15]

Yes, the rant is 25 minutes long.

[Stro]

JR called Scorpio Sky "2 Cold Scorpio"

[Tripon]

Cornette and Meltzer been going at it on twitter the last day or so.

[Human Snorenado]

I'm just shocked that Corny hasn't blocked 5 Star Dave on ye olde tweet machine

[Stro]

"I'd rather have Stu Grayson give me an oral exam than her." - JR, the guy who gets grossed out by Chuck and Trent hugging each other every match

[TVC15]

I'm just shocked that Corny hasn't blocked 5 Star Dave on ye olde tweet machine

No! I want a feud! I want Corny to expand the roster of people he ridiculously hates on.

https://www.ringsidenews.com/2020/02/05/jim-cornette-dave-meltzer-end-friendship-over-kenny-omega/

Hahaha the tweets are so awesome! I think Corny has that kind of senility where he’s angry all the time.

I'd get banned off here for saying what I wish would happen to Harpo & the rest of his ilk but you know how I feel so imagine it.Fuck all y'all.

[Human Snorenado]

If the Elite and Tony were smart, they'd book Vince Russo in an angle for a couple months, that would kill Corny

[Tripon]

So Reddit is just posting the wrestling online newsletter fully now. I'm sure Dave meltzer is okay with that. 

[Stro]

Lol that the shitty Joey Janela/Tye Dillinger feud that no one cared about was completely dropped out of the blue after MONTHS of trying to make it a thing, so they moved into another Janela feud that also no one cares about, one that Janela said he'd quit the company and go back to selling pizza or whatever service job he had if he had to do an angle with his ex and her new boyfriend.

Britt Baker is genuinely bad. At everything. I can't believe they touted her as such a big signing and have continued to feature her so prominently.


Matt Jackson might be the worst backstage acting guy in all of wrestling right now.

[bork]

Why do you guys keep watching that shit every week?

spoiler (click to show/hide)

He says, still watching Raw and SD

[close]

[Stro]

AEW certainly isn't Raw/SD bad and I watch it the day after while also doing other things and lolling from time to time. Like Dustin coming out in dress clothes with the half face paint on.


At least they're getting better at planning stuff out and making it feel like they have somewhere they'd like to go with angles. Mox/Jericho started in what...October? And just now they're getting around to Moxley going through the members of Jericho's stable and the PPV is still 3 weeks away. This Pac/Omega thing has been going on for like 2-3 months and they'll finally have their match (not on the PPV weirdly, but I guess Kenny has a tag title match for the PPV that hasn't been set up yet). The MJF/Cody shit has been going on for 4 months (more if you count the build up to the turn) and this week was the first bit of progression in the angle since the turn.

They really should have COTC type events in between the PPVs because 4 months between PPVs means they just spin their wheels for 3 months and then do all the build in the last 3-4 weeks before the show.

[nachobro]

[Stro]

Saudi princes must want him again. I thought Jews weren't allowed in the homeland

[TVC15]

[nachobro]

was thinking it might be goldberg/cena at wm but i guess the saudi thing makes more sense. bill wants the big check

if it's an undertaker rematch in saudi

[Stro]

I think Cena is done done. At least Rock post Hollywood Rock run done. He hasn't been full time in 5 years and hasn't been around at all in over a year. He skipped Wrestlemania last year.

[nachobro]

goldberg/fiend

[Stro]

Seriously?

[Tripon]

Are they really going to spend 3 weeks trying to build Fiend/Reigns for Wrestlemania? 

[Tripon]

This Otis promo. 

[Stro]

2K20 has released Southpaw Regional Wrasslin DLC but it appears that almost all of the characters weren't even in the series.

In fact it seems like the only character from it is the Tyler Breeze evil banker guy. There's a tower dedicated to Rusev's Big Bart character but he's not listed as one of the new characters. Other than that I don't think any of the others included were on either season of SRW.

 New WWE Superstar Characters:

Georgia Washington (Charlotte Flair)
Dosvetanya (Lana)
Bad Hair Day (Ember Moon)
Misfit Molly (Becky Lynch)
Samantha Urai (Kairi Sane)
Sasha Memorybanks (Sasha Banks)
Bay Lee Billionaire (Bayley)
Mackelroy (Tyler Breeze)
Glam Rocker (Johnny Gargano)
Sea Creature



Lana was in fact on Southpaw...as a completely different character. Even though there's a storyline dedicated to Rusev's character and angle, which she was a part of.

One of the arenas included is a Nitro Spring Break arena with the ring in a pool though, which would be neat for create an area in a game that wasn't completely broken.

[nachobro]

Seriously?

[Tripon]

They build up Naomi for weeks just for Carmella to pin her for Super Smackdown? 

[TVC15]

2K20 has released Southpaw Regional Wrasslin DLC but it appears that almost all of the characters weren't even in the series.

In fact it seems like the only character from it is the Tyler Breeze evil banker guy. There's a tower dedicated to Rusev's Big Bart character but he's not listed as one of the new characters. Other than that I don't think any of the others included were on either season of SRW.

 New WWE Superstar Characters:

Georgia Washington (Charlotte Flair)
Dosvetanya (Lana)
Bad Hair Day (Ember Moon)
Misfit Molly (Becky Lynch)
Samantha Urai (Kairi Sane)
Sasha Memorybanks (Sasha Banks)
Bay Lee Billionaire (Bayley)
Mackelroy (Tyler Breeze)
Glam Rocker (Johnny Gargano)
Sea Creature



Lana was in fact on Southpaw...as a completely different character. Even though there's a storyline dedicated to Rusev's character and angle, which she was a part of.

One of the arenas included is a Nitro Spring Break arena with the ring in a pool though, which would be neat for create an area in a game that wasn't completely broken.

I feel bad for the poor people working on this DLC while the public reacted to the 2k20 release. That must’ve felt like a death march.

[Tripon]

Seriously?

(Image removed from quote.)

[bork]

Kenny gets rightfully pissed at a fan's racist tweet and attacks Cornette's followers:

https://mobile.twitter.com/KennyOmegamanX/status/1225578608753827840
https://mobile.twitter.com/KennyOmegamanX/status/1225581358443106304
https://mobile.twitter.com/KennyOmegamanX/status/1225583827885731841
https://mobile.twitter.com/ThroneofGames01/status/1225643991221198849
https://mobile.twitter.com/KennyOmegamanX/status/1225584945923579905

[Stro]

2K20 has released Southpaw Regional Wrasslin DLC but it appears that almost all of the characters weren't even in the series.

In fact it seems like the only character from it is the Tyler Breeze evil banker guy. There's a tower dedicated to Rusev's Big Bart character but he's not listed as one of the new characters. Other than that I don't think any of the others included were on either season of SRW.

 New WWE Superstar Characters:

Georgia Washington (Charlotte Flair)
Dosvetanya (Lana)
Bad Hair Day (Ember Moon)
Misfit Molly (Becky Lynch)
Samantha Urai (Kairi Sane)
Sasha Memorybanks (Sasha Banks)
Bay Lee Billionaire (Bayley)
Mackelroy (Tyler Breeze)
Glam Rocker (Johnny Gargano)
Sea Creature



Lana was in fact on Southpaw...as a completely different character. Even though there's a storyline dedicated to Rusev's character and angle, which she was a part of.

One of the arenas included is a Nitro Spring Break arena with the ring in a pool though, which would be neat for create an area in a game that wasn't completely broken.

I feel bad for the poor people working on this DLC while the public reacted to the 2k20 release. That must’ve felt like a death march.

Luckily it all beyond the pool ramp and new weapons appear like it could be made with the creation suite tools. And probably was.

[Human Snorenado]

Vince should fire all the writers on SD and put Miz and Johnny Mundo in charge, turn it into some sort of Lucha Underground-Dirt Sheet hybrid, couldn't possibly be any worse.

[Tripon]

I wonder why WWE has such a large creative writing team to the point where the wrestlers are forced to read pre-prepared scripts that they don't have time to remember. I also had to laugh that Vince still thinks that just grabbing and hoarding as much talent as possible will starve out the competition.

We're probably looking at a buyout of a smaller promotion like MLW just to get in hold of contracts at some point.

[nachobro]

The NJPW card looks good enough to stay up for tonight. Plus I have nothing else going on anyway

[Tripon]

https://www.twitch.tv/luchalibreaaa_en
https://www.twitch.tv/luchalibreaaa

https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/f11cuv/live_lucha_libre_aaa_world_wide_we_are_born_to/

Announced Card (Subject to Change, even more so because it's AAA) 

Drago Kid, Iron Kid & Laredo Boy vs. Látigo, Low Rider & Parkita Negra Mini Trios Match
Dinastía ** (AAA World Minis Champ), **Big Mami, & Mr. Iguana vs. Lady Maravilla ** (1/2 AAA Mixed-Tag Champs), **La Hiedra, & Parka Negra Relevos Triple A Match
Los Parks (LA Park Jr. & 1/2 of The Crash Tag Team Champs Hijo de LA Park) vs. & Villano III Jr (1/2 AAA Mixed-Tag Champs) & Súper Fly vs. Los Jineteas del Aire (2/3 of AAA Trios Champs Myzteziz Jr. & Octagón Jr.) Three-Corner Tag Match
Hijo Del Vikingo (1/3 of AAA Trios Champs Los Jineteas del Aire), Rey Horus (1/3 of RoH Six-Man Champs) & Puma King vs. Los Mercenarios (Rey Escorpión, Texano Jr. & Volz Ultra Champ Taurus) Six-Man Tag Match
Psycho Clown (EMW Champ), Murder Clown & "Luchador Sorpresa" vs Nuevo Poder del Norte (Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr. & Tito Santana) Speical Trios Match
Lucha Brothers (AAA Tag Team Champs Fénix & Pentagón Jr.) & Dr. Wagner Jr. vs La Faccion Ingobernable (La Bestia Del Ring, 1/2 of the Crash Tag Team Champs LA Park & KAOZ Champ Rush Toro Blanco) Lucha Estellar   Official Poster

AAA event starting right now as well.