Author Topic: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: I don't know what I just saw (Read 565470 times)

TVC15 · « **Reply #6180 on:** August 19, 2018, 11:00:58 PM »

THE BIG DAWG DID IT

bork · « **Reply #6181 on:** August 19, 2018, 11:01:27 PM »

Reigns wins $:-\$

Please don't let it end this way. I was actually hyped for a second there with Braun coming out.

TVC15 · « **Reply #6182 on:** August 19, 2018, 11:02:31 PM »

No cash in lol

bork · « **Reply #6183 on:** August 19, 2018, 11:03:19 PM »

Aaaand they did it. They're really ending it this way.

Oh well, guess no more part-time champ and now Braun can go take it from Roman later on.

Awful PPV overall. NXT shat all over this, as usual.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #6184 on:** August 20, 2018, 01:11:38 AM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on August 19, 2018, 10:31:47 PM

Rhonda’s makeup is fucking terrible.

How fucking DARE you.

https://twitter.com/NiallBollard/status/1031312082770296838

archie4208 · « **Reply #6185 on:** August 20, 2018, 04:01:14 AM »

AJ vs. Joe was very good and was one of the few matches where a DQ finish was fine since it helps segue into HiaC.
Rollins vs. Ziggler and Bryan vs. Miz were fine

spoiler (click to show/hide)

but kinda boring after spending a month watching G1

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Everything else sucked.

Sideshow Raheem · « **Reply #6186 on:** August 20, 2018, 05:05:22 AM »

At least the WWE took the belts off Carmella, Alexa, and the part-time champ.

bork · « **Reply #6187 on:** August 20, 2018, 09:33:47 AM »

Quote from: archie4208 on August 20, 2018, 04:01:14 AM

AJ vs. Joe was very good and was one of the few matches where a DQ finish was fine since it helps segue into HiaC.
Rollins vs. Ziggler and Bryan vs. Miz were fine
spoiler (click to show/hide)
but kinda boring after spending a month watching G1
[close]
Everything else sucked.

Too many shitty finishes-

Bludgeons/New Day- DQ
AJ/Joe- DQ
Bryan/Miz- Miz is given a weapon and cheats to win
Roman/Brock- Too much shit with the MiTB tease

The best thing that happened on the PPV was Becky beating up Charlotte after their match. Which the crowd popped big time for.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #6188 on:** August 20, 2018, 10:17:34 AM »

If WWE seriously thinks that Charlotte is gonna be the face and Becky the heel in this feud... welp. I mean I guess they've spent years shitting on Becky AND it is the WWE creative team, so can't say I'm surprised.

bork · « **Reply #6189 on:** August 20, 2018, 10:44:32 AM »

Dirt sheet rumors:

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While there are still other options on the table, Dave Meltzer said on Wrestling Observer Radio that WWE is considering main eventing Evolution with Ronda Rousey vs. Nikki Bella. The idea is to headline with their two biggest mainstream stars.

Nikki Bella is the other "big mainstream star?"

I guess...?

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On Observer Radio, backstage plans for turning Asuka heel were also discussed.

Aren't they not going to have enough faces if they do this?

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During his post TakeOver: Brooklyn 4 media call, Triple H said Johnny Gargano’s knee injury was legitimate. While there’s still some question as to how serious it was, PW Insider says it did result in the finish of his match with Tommaso Ciampa being changed, although the plan was always for Ciampa to retain the NXT title.

Oh shit, if he's sidelined who is going to feud with Ciampa?

Stro · « **Reply #6190 on:** August 20, 2018, 12:26:59 PM »

Pros:

Our long national nightmare is over and the main event scene of Raw can return to a semblance of normalcy and meaning

Joe/AJ can still have a great match in them 15 years later

Judo throws are awesome

Not having Alexa dominate Ronda like she did with Nia Jax

Miz winning with brass knux hidden in tits like it's 1987

The crowd cheering and chanting you deserve it at the close ups of Charlotte crying after her BFF turned on her

Show actually ended at 11PM instead of dragging on another half hour

Cons:

A half hour of Dolph Ziggler, especially to start the show when everyone is at their most excited and hopeful

Multiple segments for the Bellas who aren't even talent anymore and are both essentially retired

Jeff Hardy, who recently did an interview talking about how wrecked his body was that he doesn't do the swanton on house shows anymore to help extend his career a little, does a swanton bump on the apron (note, Matt has been quietly retired by WWE and moved into an
agent/creative role because his body is also wrecked) in a mid card title match, then whatever the fuck Orton's appearance was all about

Multiple full blown squash matches. Especially hilarious for THE DEMON, as Balor didn't bring it out for the Rumble or WM, various other heated rivalries or title matches in the past year, but did for a squash match against Baron Corbin who is wearing a shirt and vest in the ring now

I'm trying to really pin point the major difference between NXT and main roster. It's not just that the NXT roster is hungrier, and it's not just the difference in booking philosophies. NXT certainly has the luxury of finality for matches that the main roster doesn't have, but I think it's the main roster focuses on MOMENTS, whereas NXT focuses on big spots to be the memorable thing in the match. The Ricochet/Adam Cole superkick thing would get more focus on Ricochet kicking out and Cole's/fan reaction instead of the superkick itself if it happened on a main roster show.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #6191 on:** August 20, 2018, 12:32:20 PM »

Squash matches are a necessity if you're going to dual brand every ppv and have the fucker run 4 hours while still giving each match a 3-5 minute recap package I guess.

Stro · « **Reply #6192 on:** August 20, 2018, 01:51:37 PM »

If all you can come up with is a squash on PPV, the match doesn't need to be booked. Cut down on some of the video packages, don't have the foreign announce team intros last 5 fucking minutes. Don't cut to the back after every match. Post match celebrations don't need to go on for 5 minutes. The pacing of main roster PPVs fucking sucks and that's probably where they need to start with fixing things. There's so much down time. If you cut out the backstage stuff that added absolutely nothing (like Bryan telling Brie to enjoy the show, or and post-match celebrations of nothingness (like Ronda hugging Nattie and the Bellas for longer than the match went), the show would have been a half hour or more shorter, with a quicker pace and more energy.

bork · « **Reply #6193 on:** August 20, 2018, 02:28:05 PM »

Quote from: Stro on August 20, 2018, 01:51:37 PM

If all you can come up with is a squash on PPV, the match doesn't need to be booked.

Agreed. Especially when with a dual-brand PPV, you should have plenty of talent available to have actual good, well-planned/executed matches. And yet...

I really cannot wait for Vince to stop being in charge. It has got to be him that's keeping things from being better. That would certainly explain NXT.

Stro · « **Reply #6194 on:** August 20, 2018, 03:02:00 PM »

That's another thing, a 6 hour dual brand PPV, yet so many people were missing:

Lashley, Wyatt, Orton besides his 30 second cameo of nothing, the majority of the women's division on both sides including Asuka, cruiserweights lol, Rusev and Almas on the pre-show, Booby Roode, The Bar, The Usos (is one of them hurt or something? They've not been on the past 4 PPVs now), Juicy Jinder, Gallows and Anderson, Mojo, etc.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #6195 on:** August 20, 2018, 03:27:50 PM »

You're assuming that WWE views themselves as selling a wrestling product rather than an entertainment product. I have bad news...

Stro · « **Reply #6196 on:** August 20, 2018, 03:31:53 PM »

They did a bang up job last night then

Stro · « **Reply #6197 on:** August 20, 2018, 04:40:07 PM »

bork · « **Reply #6198 on:** August 20, 2018, 08:23:09 PM »

So what is going to be the outcome here? Brock interrupts the Roman/Finn match or Braun does?

Quote from: Exodust on August 20, 2018, 08:01:51 PM

So Roman just came out to both cheers and boos. Guess the Cenafication is in full effect.

Did you miss the giant "you still suck" chants he was getting?

bork · « **Reply #6199 on:** August 20, 2018, 08:55:11 PM »

Quote from: Exodust on August 20, 2018, 08:43:09 PM

He was still getting audible cheers. Sounded a lot like what Cena usually gets so I made a note of it

Didn't sound that way to me. Cena gets a clear mix of both- Roman isn't just booed, but gets shit on with chants and only gets cheers in a few cities.

But hey, maybe that will change. Not going to say I doubt it when it comes to this company.

TVC15 · « **Reply #6200 on:** August 20, 2018, 09:09:34 PM »

Trips giving a ten minute promo for a c-list PPV in a country even shittier than Saudi Arabia. Good job, Raw.

dkdk · « **Reply #6201 on:** August 20, 2018, 10:41:14 PM »

i wouldnt be surprised if sasha bounced from wwe by this time next year. she looked totally checked out in that ronda/steph segment and i doubt she'll be back in the women's ME scene at all when she should be the centerpiece.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #6202 on:** August 21, 2018, 12:33:29 AM »

Quote from: Exodust on August 20, 2018, 11:05:53 PM

Is Braun not being allowed to cash in his new gimmick?

Is that going to be better or worse than Carmella's "tries to cash in but ref is unsure she wants to cash in and eventually she runs away scared" gimmick tho?

bork · « **Reply #6203 on:** August 21, 2018, 08:47:32 PM »

The main event segment last night had me wondering who was supposed to be the face here- the crowd popped big for the Shield, who then heeled it up to attack Braun. No doubt they did that to get the crowd to stop booing Roman. Dirtsheets are saying that the move to make Baron GM of Raw is also to get heat on him and off Roman. Maybe they could just stop forcing him down people's throats instead?

SD is a "special edition" for reasons I don't know. Miz and Maryse will be taking on Daniel Bryan and Brie Bella at the next PPV.

bork · « **Reply #6204 on:** August 21, 2018, 08:51:34 PM »

Time for the Bludgeons to drop the belts to the New Day- Rowen injured his arm and will be out indefinitely.

Stro · « **Reply #6205 on:** August 21, 2018, 08:58:28 PM »

Oh? Maybe they'll actually give Harper a push like they pretended to last year and in 2015

bork · « **Reply #6206 on:** August 21, 2018, 09:02:15 PM »

Becky is cutting a promo that is starting to feel like a shoot. Doing a good job of shitting on the crowd to turn them against her...although they're still cheering anytime she shits on Charlotte.

bork · « **Reply #6207 on:** August 21, 2018, 09:03:31 PM »

Charlotte out to muted boos.

bork · « **Reply #6208 on:** August 21, 2018, 09:04:06 PM »

The crowd is cheering for Becky beating up Charlotte

bork · « **Reply #6209 on:** August 21, 2018, 09:53:19 PM »

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According to Dave Meltzer on Wrestling Observer Radio, Becky Lynch turning on Charlotte Flair is not something that surprised WWE officials. The entire storyline has been planned from day one with the expectation that the audience in New York would pop bigtime for Lynch attacking Flair as she has been built as an underdog babyface. Ultimately, it is not a heel turn much like what has happened with the Sasha Banks and Bayley storyline over on Raw.

nachobro · « **Reply #6210 on:** August 21, 2018, 09:55:30 PM »

nachobro · « **Reply #6211 on:** August 21, 2018, 09:59:18 PM »

xavier woods

new day

bork · « **Reply #6212 on:** August 21, 2018, 10:00:58 PM »

Never mind Rowan beating himself up with a fucked up arm, why did this match just go better than the Summerslam one did?

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #6213 on:** August 21, 2018, 11:59:28 PM »

Quote from: bork on August 21, 2018, 09:53:19 PM

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According to Dave Meltzer on Wrestling Observer Radio, Becky Lynch turning on Charlotte Flair is not something that surprised WWE officials. The entire storyline has been planned from day one with the expectation that the audience in New York would pop bigtime for Lynch attacking Flair as she has been built as an underdog babyface. Ultimately, it is not a heel turn much like what has happened with the Sasha Banks and Bayley storyline over on Raw.

Oh good, they're gonna have a therapy session too

Trent Dole · « **Reply #6214 on:** September 02, 2018, 05:22:57 AM »

All In was bretty gud.

nachobro · « **Reply #6215 on:** September 02, 2018, 10:09:52 AM »

I only caught a little bit of it but I really liked Omega and Pentagon, plus loljericho was an unexpected cool thing. Also Joey Ryan's dick antics remain hilarious.

I'll catch up on the stuff I missed today most likely

Stro · « **Reply #6216 on:** September 02, 2018, 06:00:31 PM »

Indie Wrestlemania indeed. Lasted forever and none of the matches met expectations. Still a cool thing to have happened, definitely a good sign for the industry when WWE and NJPW are having their biggest financial years ever and there can be an indie show put on by the wrestlers themselves (with help from Sinclair Broadcasting but that's hush hush apparently) that can sell out a 10K arena, NJPW and ROH selling out MSG, and so on.

at Glacier as one of Cody's cornermen

at The Genius endorsing Jay Lethal as Black Machismo

at the piledrivers in Kenny vs Penta

team filler · « **Reply #6217 on:** September 03, 2018, 03:00:18 AM »

team filler · « **Reply #6218 on:** September 03, 2018, 04:57:42 AM »

Stro · « **Reply #6219 on:** September 03, 2018, 07:28:40 AM »

Okada/Scurll ran 12 minutes over, which was double their alotted time, which is why the main event was so obviously cut short and the PPV ended literally 3 seconds after the pin.

The main event got cut by 20 fucking minutes

I'd be kicking Scurll out of the club

bork · « **Reply #6220 on:** September 03, 2018, 10:01:03 AM »

Quote from: filler on September 03, 2018, 04:57:42 AM

Flair's expression

AJ Styles looking like a 15 year-old

Stro · « **Reply #6221 on:** September 03, 2018, 12:18:04 PM »

Tied with as TNA's finest moment with the Steiner math promo

team filler · « **Reply #6222 on:** September 03, 2018, 04:39:53 PM »

lethal sound like cosby

Stro · « **Reply #6223 on:** September 03, 2018, 04:43:46 PM »

Probably just as accurate, there's no way Ric Flair wasn't slipping binches 'ludes in the 70s and 80s

seagrams hotsauce · « **Reply #6224 on:** September 03, 2018, 11:13:28 PM »

looks like they're set on ruining Braun now

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #6225 on:** September 03, 2018, 11:19:57 PM »

Quote from: seagrams hotsauce on September 03, 2018, 11:13:28 PM

looks like they're set on ruining Braun now

Gotta get Roman over!

Trent Dole · « **Reply #6226 on:** September 04, 2018, 02:47:44 AM »

Shit's infuriating but hey Vince gonna Vince

bork · « **Reply #6227 on:** September 04, 2018, 10:45:46 AM »

Quote from: Human Snorenado on September 03, 2018, 11:19:57 PM

Quote from: seagrams hotsauce on September 03, 2018, 11:13:28 PM
looks like they're set on ruining Braun now

Gotta get Roman over!

Didn't bother with Raw and checked out the highlights on Youtube instead. When Roman comes out, the crowd is mostly boos...and when Ambrose and Rollins come out next...there's some boos too. Doing a great job.

Stro · « **Reply #6228 on:** September 06, 2018, 06:27:23 PM »

I guess HBK was on Raw and they teased Taker/HBK?

Well it appears that the Arab Money is too much for HBK to resist and he's expected to come out of retirement at the next KSA show in November, likely in a tag match of some kind. Probably something like Taker/Kane vs DX or some shit.

Imagine DX promos and suck it in Saudi Arabia

Wait shouldn't they be really offended at Undertaker for possibly being a djinn or some shit?

Stro · « **Reply #6229 on:** September 06, 2018, 06:37:29 PM »

Rumor has it one of the princes is still trying to get Yokozuna and Ultimate Warrior booked for the show

dkdk · « **Reply #6230 on:** September 09, 2018, 11:03:38 AM »

Scarlett Bordeaux is so fine I might actually have to start watching Impact
https://gfycat.com/gifs/detail/joyfulspanishharlequinbug
https://gfycat.com/gifs/detail/sphericalvigoroushammerkop
https://gfycat.com/gifs/detail/chiefseparategalapagoshawk

I mean goddamn. The thirst is real.

bork · « **Reply #6231 on:** September 09, 2018, 11:14:56 AM »

The difference between ~~TNA~~ Impact and WWE is how much ass they can show.

Stro · « **Reply #6232 on:** September 09, 2018, 11:39:19 AM »

She's hot but her segments are fucking terrible. Best viewed in pic or gif form

dkdk · « **Reply #6233 on:** September 09, 2018, 10:02:42 PM »

i cant imagine they're any worse than the avg WWE womens segment

Stro · « **Reply #6234 on:** September 10, 2018, 08:24:06 AM »

You'd imagine wrong

bork · « **Reply #6235 on:** September 10, 2018, 01:55:34 PM »

WWE has kicked Jonathan Coachman off of RAW and he's now just going to be on the kickoff shows.

Renee Young is taking his place.

Stro · « **Reply #6236 on:** September 10, 2018, 02:39:18 PM »

Literally anyone, even a non professional, non English speaker would have to do a better job than Coach. He's been absolutely terrible since his return and I've only seen PPVs where he's only doing half the show, so I can't imagine a full 3 hours of him.

nachobro · « **Reply #6237 on:** September 10, 2018, 04:27:48 PM »

I'm glad Renee is taking over, she really is great on commentary. However it's also football season so I won't be watching Raw for a few months. I wasn't really able to make it through a complete show in a while so this isn't a major change.

bork · « **Reply #6238 on:** September 10, 2018, 04:30:44 PM »

Maybe I'm crazy and remember him being better before he first left the WWE, but I would have thought that Coachman being at ESPN would have helped him stepped his game up. Instead he returned much worse than he was before. All the times that Graves and even Cole shit on him for fucking up.

Speaking of big changes, Paige got ~~some nice tits~~ a new haircut.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bnb5LxQneTj/?utm_source=ig_embed

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #6239 on:** September 10, 2018, 05:51:44 PM »

Ugh, her goddamn collagen filled lips are so sad. Oh well.

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