Author Topic: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: I don't know what I just saw (Read 565507 times)

bork · « **Reply #7560 on:** June 17, 2019, 10:09:36 PM »

Quote from: nachobro on June 17, 2019, 10:00:01 PM

FRANK THOMAS OUT HERE TURNING HUSBANDS INTO GIANT DADS

IT JUST AIRED!!!!!

nachobro · « **Reply #7561 on:** June 17, 2019, 11:16:30 PM »

that was the best raw in like 3 years

Cindi Mayweather · « **Reply #7562 on:** June 17, 2019, 11:26:14 PM »

been slowly catching up on njpw. nxt next - or nxt? Hm? HMMMMMMMMMMMMM? Basically slowly prepping for AEW to launch so i can come back to wrassle talk full time.

Thread, your progenitor hath return.

Cindi Mayweather · « **Reply #7563 on:** June 17, 2019, 11:28:12 PM »

Quote from: filler on June 15, 2019, 08:21:20 PM

Hype.

bork · « **Reply #7564 on:** June 17, 2019, 11:28:47 PM »

Quote from: nachobro on June 17, 2019, 11:16:30 PM

that was the best raw in like 3 years

So, still shit.

Didn't see what was so good about it.

nachobro · « **Reply #7565 on:** June 17, 2019, 11:49:19 PM »

Having a match within the first 10mins of Raw, Seth acting like he's got a spine for once as the champ, a bunch of people that have been background or not even on TV having time in the spotlight, promos from almost everyone (Lacey pls) being really good, and the matches were engaging as well. Even Roman had a good segment.

It definitely felt a lot different than the past month or so. I dunno, I actually felt compelled to watch this week when I normally just have it on the background.

bork · « **Reply #7566 on:** June 18, 2019, 07:31:10 AM »

Quote from: nachobro on June 17, 2019, 11:49:19 PM

Having a match within the first 10mins of Raw, Seth acting like he's got a spine for once as the champ, a bunch of people that have been background or not even on TV having time in the spotlight, promos from almost everyone (Lacey pls) being really good, and the matches were engaging as well. Even Roman had a good segment.

It definitely felt a lot different than the past month or so. I dunno, I actually felt compelled to watch this week when I normally just have it on the background.

And don't forget LOTS OF BARON CORBIN!! Because that's what we ALL wanted!

Stomping Grounds is like a re-run of Super Showdown with a few Mania rematches thrown in. So completely unexcited for it.

nachobro · « **Reply #7567 on:** June 18, 2019, 08:51:11 AM »

I think the ending actually showed Corbin how he should be booked: as a vicious dick. Not saying he's not good as a smarmy ass but 1) that's been ruined by bad writing for him. 2) every fucking wwe heel is a smarmy ass character.

So yeah it wasn't perfect but I'm willing to give WWE credit when they do something right and I think last night was a step up in quality.

nachobro · « **Reply #7568 on:** June 18, 2019, 06:29:45 PM »

https://www.fightful.com/wrestling/tony-khan-says-aew-will-hold-tag-team-tournament-when-they-start-tnt

1) I like that this is somehow a worthwhile story on its own

2) Tournaments are so goddamn boring.

Basically just announcing to the world you have no story idea so let's just throw dudes together

Stro · « **Reply #7569 on:** June 18, 2019, 06:55:50 PM »

For a new title, what else do you do? Just have a random title match?

nachobro · « **Reply #7570 on:** June 18, 2019, 07:45:45 PM »

i feel like the dudes all over social media, with a weekly youtube show, and that have like four upcoming ppvs might be able to figure out some way to build a story with those tools (as a way to just end up giving the titles to the bucks anyway)

Stro · « **Reply #7571 on:** June 18, 2019, 08:09:59 PM »

Tournaments should always be the way to start new titles, dawg

TVC15 · « **Reply #7572 on:** June 18, 2019, 08:11:44 PM »

Stro, as someone that spends a lot of time working out, what do you think of the natural male-enhancing power of NUGENIX?

nachobro · « **Reply #7573 on:** June 18, 2019, 08:14:19 PM »

oh shit

Quote from: TVC 15 on June 18, 2019, 08:11:44 PM

Stro, as someone that spends a lot of time working out, what do you think of the natural male-enhancing power of NUGENIX?

finally the real questions

nachobro · « **Reply #7574 on:** June 18, 2019, 08:39:20 PM »

so is the story here that nikki is distinguished mentally-challenged?

Stro · « **Reply #7575 on:** June 18, 2019, 08:47:01 PM »

I don't know what nugenix is. The only supplimet I use is whey powder and not even every day.

TVC15 · « **Reply #7576 on:** June 18, 2019, 08:54:15 PM »

nachobro · « **Reply #7577 on:** June 18, 2019, 08:57:53 PM »

frank thomas is using it to get swole and turn husbands across the country into giant dads

Stro · « **Reply #7578 on:** June 18, 2019, 09:19:55 PM »

Who needs nugenix when you can get swoll with rage

bork · « **Reply #7579 on:** June 19, 2019, 07:21:04 AM »

https://twitter.com/Maffewgregg/status/1141261958194372608

team filler · « **Reply #7580 on:** June 19, 2019, 04:56:14 PM »

https://www.facebook.com/sgwrestlingsoc/videos/1759805110841865/

Stro · « **Reply #7581 on:** June 19, 2019, 05:06:09 PM »

That's the most dangerous spot I've ever seen in all my years of watching professional wrestling

bork · « **Reply #7582 on:** June 21, 2019, 04:43:37 PM »

"R-Truth Wins WWE 24/7 Title After Attacking Drake Maverick At His Wedding"

Stro · « **Reply #7583 on:** June 21, 2019, 05:00:26 PM »

I watched the "special edition" NXT from Maryland from a couple weeks back and I'm going to go out on a limb:

Kushida has absolutely no future in WWE, even NXT and 205 Live, beyond "guy we put on TV once in a while to have a solid match and talk about how big of a star he was on the indies/Japan". His signing had no hype to begin with, he signed with the company at the end of January and has been on TV like 3-4 times, against low, low card guys and even a 205 midcarder. He doesn't have the presence or charisma to stand out like Nakamura, the history hype and style of KENTA that made him stand out (even if that went to shit for multiple reasons not all of which were KENTA's fault), and there are 15 other guys all set to debut in NXT at the same time that are going to leap frog him immediately. They're just now working in teams and talent they've had on the backburner for 2+ years. And now they're about to debut 8 "names" all at once, they still have Riddle's rise, Keith Lee/Dijakovic not doing shit, former NXT talent are returning....Kushida is going to do absolutely nothing of note in WWE. He signed at the worst possible time.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #7584 on:** June 21, 2019, 05:06:49 PM »

I kind of don't ever want Keith Lee to get called up, if he does Vince will turn him into "goofy fat dancing black man" in .03 seconds

Stro · « **Reply #7585 on:** June 21, 2019, 06:02:20 PM »

Keith Lee in front of Vince McMahon:

"Do you like pancakes, pal?"

bork · « **Reply #7586 on:** June 24, 2019, 12:37:59 AM »

So that ppv...

Trent Dole · « **Reply #7587 on:** June 24, 2019, 01:27:06 AM »

Pointless trash and the main had an ending everyone saw coming. Hooray for Ricochet I guess, was obvious they were gonna throw the title on him since it was meant to be on a flippy guy and Rey died yet again. 'Throw it on some other flying midget dammit!'

dkdk · « **Reply #7588 on:** June 24, 2019, 08:53:04 PM »

so were doing on screen becky/seth shit huh

bork · « **Reply #7589 on:** June 24, 2019, 09:28:24 PM »

Turned on Raw and Undertaker popped up to save Roman from Shane and Drew. Are we getting another Taker/Shane match?

bork · « **Reply #7590 on:** June 24, 2019, 09:29:56 PM »

It really gets to me how Cole calls various tag teams or female wrestlers "former champions." That's like the entirety of those divisions and seems so pointless.

Trent Dole · « **Reply #7591 on:** June 24, 2019, 10:26:09 PM »

'so pointless' sums up Cole's commentary in general.

Cindi Mayweather · « **Reply #7592 on:** June 25, 2019, 01:42:15 PM »

Holy shit the moxley podcast

Stro · « **Reply #7593 on:** June 25, 2019, 02:30:19 PM »

I caught up on a couple of Network docs and man, Seth Rollins seems inescapably depressed and miserable. Even when he's a talking head in something like Becky's 24, he's so worn down and zombified. Then you'll see him walking around in other ones in the background or telling someone good job after a match and he's just

in every shot.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #7594 on:** June 25, 2019, 06:50:17 PM »

Quote from: Stro on June 25, 2019, 02:30:19 PM

I caught up on a couple of Network docs and man, Seth Rollins seems inescapably depressed and miserable. Even when he's a talking head in something like Becky's 24, he's so worn down and zombified. Then you'll see him walking around in other ones in the background or telling someone good job after a match and he's just in every shot.

And yet here he is, defending based Vince from his Shield bruh

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2842662-seth-rollins-responds-to-jon-moxley-bashing-wwe-defends-vince-mcmahon-creative

Trent Dole · « **Reply #7595 on:** June 25, 2019, 06:57:06 PM »

People in the SA pro graps thread are declaring Seth is more terrible than Roman now cause of how much he is shooting his mouth off. I think that's a bridge too far but Rollins definitely needs to shut the fuck up.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #7596 on:** June 25, 2019, 07:04:24 PM »

I mean, I honestly don't give a shit about that sort of thing as long as they're not saying garbage person shit like racist crap or whatever. They can say wtf they want out of work about the biz and it won't bug me, obvs anything they say while still working in Vince's salt mines is suspect AF but whatever, who cares. Rollins has been booked pretty well (as far as WWE in 2019 goes, anyway, and compared to the rest of the shit show) so that's all I really care about. Just stop feuding him with Corbin, who is AT BEST a midcard heel, and stop feuding Becky with Lacey Evans, who needs to go back to NXT and figure out how to wrestle. And quit fucking pairing them up just cause they're fucking, who cares.

Stro · « **Reply #7597 on:** June 25, 2019, 07:32:51 PM »

Quote from: Human Snorenado on June 25, 2019, 06:50:17 PM

Quote from: Stro on June 25, 2019, 02:30:19 PM
I caught up on a couple of Network docs and man, Seth Rollins seems inescapably depressed and miserable. Even when he's a talking head in something like Becky's 24, he's so worn down and zombified. Then you'll see him walking around in other ones in the background or telling someone good job after a match and he's just in every shot.

And yet here he is, defending based Vince from his Shield bruh

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2842662-seth-rollins-responds-to-jon-moxley-bashing-wwe-defends-vince-mcmahon-creative

Yeah I know that's why I wanted to comment about how miserable and zombified he looks. He's going hard, getting into twitter spats with randos and Jericho/Ospreay, doing interviews shitting on one of his best friends for leaving the wrong way despite Ambrose fulfilling his contractual obligations, giving a long heads up that he wasn't going to re-sign, and doing everything asked of him on the way out. "Took his ball and went home" is a clear Vince or possibly Bruce Prichard directive, as that was the phrase used repeatedly about Austin until it finally Jedi mind tricked Austin into regretting walking out 15 years later. As the top guy he should be defending his company, but the way that he's doing it is blatant stoogery and it's just going to turn public will against him if he keeps it up. Austin and Hogan wouldn't be getting into flame wars with trolls on the tweeties when nerds complain about the booking. He seems to me to be in the same headspace Ambrose was in in the mini doc about his injury recovery. IE: Completely mentally defeated, broken, and checked out.

nachobro · « **Reply #7598 on:** June 27, 2019, 10:02:21 AM »

https://twitter.com/JustinBarrasso/status/1144240288149512192

kinda weird but this seems to be a sign of vince scaling back his involvement on the wrassling stuff in favor of the XFL, so that's probably a good thing

bork · « **Reply #7599 on:** June 27, 2019, 10:06:56 AM »

Wow, surprising and hopefully this will lead to some good changes.

Stro · « **Reply #7600 on:** June 27, 2019, 10:10:55 AM »

It's 2003 all over again

nachobro · « **Reply #7601 on:** June 27, 2019, 10:47:34 AM »

Quote from: Stro on June 27, 2019, 10:10:55 AM

It's 2003 all over again

good news for smackdown

bork · « **Reply #7602 on:** June 27, 2019, 12:34:09 PM »

Quote from: nachobro on June 27, 2019, 10:47:34 AM

Quote from: Stro on June 27, 2019, 10:10:55 AM
It's 2003 all over again
good news for smackdown

Wasn't Heyman the head writer for SD in 2003? Maybe now Raw is going to be the better show.

Stro · « **Reply #7603 on:** June 27, 2019, 12:34:20 PM »

Evolve's 10th anniversary show is airing on WWE Network, with multiple NXT talents on the show (including Adam Cole vs Akira Tozawa for the NXT Championship). It happens to be at the same time as AEW's Fight For the Fallen PPV with portions of the proceeds going to victims of shooting violence. Kenny Omega was not happy about it:

His tweet:

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“If lining your pockets with blood money is okay, then what’s wrong with trying to undermine a charity show for victims of gun violence? I hear that healthy competition is supposed to be a good thing and yet I can’t help but feel like I’m gonna be sick.”

Of course, it was quickly deleted. He's right that the Saudi deal is gross, and he's right that running against a charity show is also gross, but at the same time: I'm sure Evolve would have preferred their show not be airing at the same time as an AEW show, they're in different parts of the country so it's not like the fans have to choose, and they're also on VOD streaming subscriptions so fans can watch either at their leisure, and you can't keep having talents take shots and expect WWE not to respond.

Also Kenny just jobbed clean in the main event to a guy who took $100K of Saudi blood money, in a match with commentary from an announcer that took Saudi blood money, on a card with multiple other talents that took Saudi blood money, and the Khan family also does business with KSA and also invests in a sweat shop in China that is constantly hit with human rights violations sooo....

nachobro · « **Reply #7604 on:** June 27, 2019, 12:57:03 PM »

Quote from: bork on June 27, 2019, 12:34:09 PM

Wasn't Heyman the head writer for SD in 2003? Maybe now Raw is going to be the better show.

yep, that era of smackdown was great. rey, benoit, angle, edge, and eddie plus heyman writing

brock and cena popped in around that time too (2004?)

meanwhile raw was the hhh and ric flair show with a bonus bischoff/stone cold feud as co-GM's

team filler · « **Reply #7605 on:** June 27, 2019, 02:09:19 PM »

nachobro · « **Reply #7606 on:** June 27, 2019, 07:02:25 PM »

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Heyman had been working on certain storylines and with certain talents, including Ronda Rousey, Brock Lesnar, Alexa Bliss and many others dating back far before that point. He's been in the inner circle when it comes to the creative process for some time without an official title. He and WWE have been circling around this deal for a long time and finally came to terms recently.

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To say this is a massive return to form for Bischoff is a grand understatement. We are told that WWE approached him about the role and that his previous work in collaborating with Turner Broadcasting. Spike and other networks in building past TV series was one of the reasons Bischoff was pitched for the position.

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We are told that they will be overseeing all aspects of their individual series, answering directly to Vince McMahon. They are now the top of the pyramid, respectively, for Raw and Smackdown but obviously McMahon will always have the last say. One WWE source compared their roles to Paul Levesque's in NXT in that they will be in charge, but it's still Vince's company.

https://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.php?id=127529

Stro · « **Reply #7607 on:** June 27, 2019, 07:26:33 PM »

I love the idea that Vince's idea of freshening up the product is putting it in the hands of two people who ran their own companies into the ground 18 years ago

Trent Dole · « **Reply #7608 on:** June 27, 2019, 07:36:20 PM »

Paul was always good storyline wise, he just couldn't handle the biz side super well. Eric...uh..came up with the nwo that one time?

Stro · « **Reply #7609 on:** June 27, 2019, 07:45:50 PM »

The most recent examples of booking from Paul Heyman and Eric Bischoff:

The ECW reboot in 2006, which culminated in what is widely thought to be the worst WWE PPV of all time in quality and buy rates, which was followed with Heyman's immediate termination.

TNA's Fourtune/Immortal/Aces and Eights

nachobro · « **Reply #7610 on:** June 27, 2019, 07:48:54 PM »

Aces and Eights wasn't that bad heh.

And that ECW thing was doomed from the start lol. One of the things they did on the FIRST EPISODE was have a man come out dressed as the shambling corpse of ECW and have him get beaten to hell.

Stro · « **Reply #7611 on:** June 27, 2019, 07:52:40 PM »

Aces and Eights was so bad TNA still hasn't recovered from it breh

nachobro · « **Reply #7612 on:** June 27, 2019, 11:47:12 PM »

bork · « **Reply #7613 on:** June 29, 2019, 07:35:49 PM »

AEW Fighter Fest is on now.

Free on https://live.bleacherreport.com/wrestling/all-elite-wrestling/events/aew-fyter-fest/66422

bork · « **Reply #7614 on:** June 29, 2019, 08:08:10 PM »

LOL at the FGC people in the front row. I see Justin Wong and Yipes.

Quote from: Dantizzinel on June 29, 2019, 07:46:07 PM

Free for you dirty yankistanis, maybe. While I'm over here looking for streams.

No VPN?

team filler · « **Reply #7615 on:** June 29, 2019, 08:09:59 PM »

bork · « **Reply #7616 on:** June 29, 2019, 08:10:52 PM »

This women's match is awful. Showing ass cheeks will only get you so far.

team filler · « **Reply #7617 on:** June 29, 2019, 08:12:02 PM »

team filler · « **Reply #7618 on:** June 29, 2019, 08:12:34 PM »

these whores are magnificent

TVC15 · « **Reply #7619 on:** June 29, 2019, 08:18:26 PM »

So far this is like Raw quality.

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