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« Reply #8340 on: September 01, 2019, 08:05:11 PM »
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« Reply #8341 on: September 01, 2019, 08:19:13 PM »
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« Reply #8342 on: September 01, 2019, 08:21:32 PM »
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« Reply #8343 on: September 01, 2019, 08:40:31 PM »
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« Reply #8344 on: September 02, 2019, 09:46:25 AM »
Some more detailed thoughts on AEW:

Wins and losses and stories don't matter already. The joshi match is an automatic number one contender match for no reason (just like Jericho/Kenny was) while all the non joshi women had to be in a pre-show battle royale for no reason (just like the one Page won). Darby Allin takes Cody to a time limit draw, then goes on to be in rand midcard hardcore shit with no storyline, while Cody gets a co-main event. Janella gets a random deathmatch main event with Moxley, goes on to be mid/low mid card comedy hardcore guy with no story. The guy that took Page to 19 minutes of a 20 minute time limit at the last show literally wasn't even mentioned. Lucha Brows were 1-2, still got a co-main and a gimmick match for another company's titles with EVPs while the other tag teams get to wrestle on the pre-show for a spot in their own company's tag title tournament.

Coming out of this show, there's no clear contender for Jericho's title. There are no storylines going into TV besides "Kenny Omega is having poor matches because he'd rather still be wrestling in Japan" and that's more just trying to cover for Kenny's lackluster performances more than an actual storyline. The promos they do on Being The Elite don't match up with the Road To... program, which don't translate to the actual events. There's no delineation in card status beyond "The Elite + Jericho + Moxley are top guys, everyone else is interchangeable". Literally everyone outside of The Elite + Jericho + Moxley could be on the pre-show of any PPV. Or they could be anywhere else on the card below The Elite. Or they could have a match with one of The Elite and not even be on the next show.

They're already blowing through gimmick matches because they're cool and they haven't even started TV. They're still running on THIS IS A REVOLUTION and AREN'T WE SO POPULAR ISN'T THIS AWESOME but the reality that it's a group of 30 year olds with zero experience running and booking a pro wrestling company is clearly setting in to me. I really think they don't actually know what they're doing or even what they WANT to do. I can almost guarantee they're going to blow through every big match they can on TV by the end of the year.

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« Reply #8345 on: September 02, 2019, 11:55:35 AM »
Yeah four kinda meh shows in a row has lessened my positivity on AEW a bunch. I suppose they can right this once TV hits and they have an easier way to tell a story but how are they even handling that? Is there going to be writers/editors? Who's even handling booking?

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« Reply #8346 on: September 02, 2019, 11:57:01 AM »
Yeah four kinda meh shows in a row has lessened my positivity on AEW a bunch. I suppose they can right this once TV hits and they have an easier way to tell a story but how are they even handling that? Is there going to be writers/editors? Who's even handling booking?

Don't remember where I heard it, but it seems all the VPs have their own domains for booking. Cody for Men's singles, The Young Bucks for Men's Teams, and Omega for women matches.

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« Reply #8347 on: September 02, 2019, 12:01:35 PM »
If that's true it already explains a lot of what's going on :lol

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« Reply #8348 on: September 02, 2019, 02:01:21 PM »
They've already said that storylines will start with TV. 

They also have said that wrestlers will be rotated in and out to keep things fresh and not seem so repetitive.  Assuming that this translates to "Cody, Bucks, Omega, Jericho, Moxley, and anyone in that status and can come and go on TV whenever they want and mid and lower card guys-- maybe we'll use you.  Maybe."
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« Reply #8349 on: September 02, 2019, 02:22:41 PM »
The only real character/story they have going right now is that Kenny would rather be wrestling in Japan instead of his own company :lol

Omega already promoting him going back to DDT.  :lol

https://twitter.com/KennyOmegamanX/status/1165599429463875585

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« Reply #8350 on: September 02, 2019, 05:51:20 PM »
Most interesting thing about aew to me is how long it will take for all the main players to fall out irl and start hating each other.

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« Reply #8351 on: September 02, 2019, 06:06:02 PM »
https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1168645583529238528

Is this supposed to mimic a boxing or MMA match signing?

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« Reply #8352 on: September 02, 2019, 07:47:41 PM »
https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1168645583529238528

Is this supposed to mimic a boxing or MMA match signing?

I guess so. It's one of the dumbest things the WWE does to kill time on its weekly programming. And that's saying something.

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« Reply #8353 on: September 02, 2019, 07:50:27 PM »
And I think Tony Khan is in the Vince position of over all decision maker.

Of course none of these people have any experience in creative or booking of a wrestling promotion. Having 3 different bookers for different divisions sounds like it would explain why the shows are so disconnected and there's no overall vision.

Singles division: No clear contenders for the world title, guy who took the number one contender to 19 minutes of a 20 minute match on the last show wasn't on or even mentioned on this show, Kenny/Moxley seemed to be the top feud despite neither being near the title picture and now with Kenny 0-2 and Moxley out indefinitely there's nothing going on for main scene right now. Cody booking himself in full blown HHH matches with the entrances and blood and fuckery gimmickry, but also doing draws with low card guys who then go on to do random hardcore matches while he goes on to do co-main events arguably the match with the most build on the entire card. Random deathmatches for lulz.

Tag division: The Bucks booking themselves with the Lucha Bros 3 out of 4 shows, for another companies tag titles, and gimmick matches because they're cool, while the other tag teams get to be in the mid card or on the pre show to get into a tag tournament for AEW tag titles.

Women's divison: Kenny has a hard on for the joshi chicks (one of whom he's dating) and puts them on the PPV in a number one contender match while all the non Japanese women are in a battle royale on the pre show for the same spot. Despite no one knowing who the joshi girls are and people were straight up yawning in the front rows during that match :lol Never mind that the booking to crown the first women's champ is exactly the same booking they did to set up the Jericho/Page match :lol

"We won't start storylines until TV" is the dumbest shit. You need storylines going INTO TV.
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« Reply #8354 on: September 02, 2019, 11:32:33 PM »
https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1168720485544103936

Should be interesting, especially since Bayley is in a feud with Charlotte on SD

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« Reply #8355 on: September 02, 2019, 11:33:37 PM »
Honestly, at this point the best case scenario might somehow be AEW shitting the bed so Vince mostly leaves NXT alone and it can just be 2 (really 1.5 considering commercials) hours of what people love about NXT already

(haha it's gonna be destroyed because we can't have anything nice)
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« Reply #8356 on: September 02, 2019, 11:52:48 PM »
Honestly, at this point the best case scenario might somehow be AEW shitting the bed so Vince mostly leaves NXT alone and it can just be 2 (really 1.5 considering commercials) hours of what people love about NXT already

(haha it's gonna be destroyed because we can't have anything nice)

Dude, it's going to be a road show after the first month because WWE can't help themselves and not realize that trying to run 3 different rosters on the road doesn't make sense.

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« Reply #8357 on: September 03, 2019, 01:18:37 AM »


I might actually have to start watching RAW and smackdown regularly if they just let Bray Wyatt do this all year.

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« Reply #8359 on: September 03, 2019, 04:07:07 AM »


vince sounds autisty  :money
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« Reply #8360 on: September 03, 2019, 08:20:14 AM »
I might actually have to start watching RAW and smackdown regularly if they just let Bray Wyatt do this all year.

They won't.  He's being kept off TV weekly on purpose to make his appearances "special."
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« Reply #8361 on: September 03, 2019, 08:27:50 AM »
https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1168720485544103936

Should be interesting, especially since Bayley is in a feud with Charlotte on SD

About time.  Although yeah- feels like too many heels now.  I guess if nothing else, they have Bayley drop the title and then re-team with Sasha to go after the tag belts again.

Three of the four horsewomen are now heel.  Rumor is that they are all being set up to reunite in some capacity later on.
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« Reply #8362 on: September 03, 2019, 09:16:51 AM »
Yeah, might be working to some sort of swap too. Becky is all over the SD advertising even though she's on Raw so she might be making the move over.

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« Reply #8363 on: September 03, 2019, 09:21:17 AM »
https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1168720485544103936

Should be interesting, especially since Bayley is in a feud with Charlotte on SD

About time.  Although yeah- feels like too many heels now.  I guess if nothing else, they have Bayley drop the title and then re-team with Sasha to go after the tag belts again.

Three of the four horsewomen are now heel.  Rumor is that they are all being set up to reunite in some capacity later on.

They wanna do the 4 Horsewomen of NXT vs the 4 Horsewomen of MMA, but Ronda's off being a farmer, on a tv show, and maybe trying to get preggers now, and the two junior horsewomen (Shafir and Duke) are still really not ready to do much of anything other than be stooges yet. Shayna Baszler is, in some ways, better at this than Ronda was (her promos don't sound like they were written by a 73 year old increasingly senile Republican, for one, but that would change if she was on the main roster, and she's never concussed anyone repeatedly as far as I know) but for whatever reason they never want to move her to the main roster. Who knows.

Haha, what a circle of life journey Becky has been on. A little over a year ago she was getting cheered for being heelish and now Bayley gets a similar reaction for doing the same thing to her. They don't know how to let top performers be anti-heroes anymore, everyone has to be dumb fucking babyfaces. VINCE MCMAHON, WITH HIS FINGER ON THE PULSE OF WHAT HIS AUDIENCE WANTS PER THE USUAL.

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« Reply #8364 on: September 03, 2019, 07:02:04 PM »
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« Reply #8365 on: September 03, 2019, 07:26:31 PM »
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« Reply #8366 on: September 03, 2019, 08:09:54 PM »
Heel Bayley still got this face ass intro so aight i guess.

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« Reply #8367 on: September 03, 2019, 08:12:09 PM »
So it's Bayley who is a heel cause her BFF Sasha is too vs Charlotte who saying "well at least i'm up front about being a heel" then :idont

Crowd just chanting for Becky :lol

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« Reply #8368 on: September 03, 2019, 08:15:25 PM »
Gable vs Andrade tonight tho :lawd

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« Reply #8369 on: September 03, 2019, 08:26:50 PM »
How could you possibly lose a title that fucking big :lol :lol :lol

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« Reply #8370 on: September 03, 2019, 08:30:29 PM »
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    "The victim reported the theft of his championship wrestling belt while he was eating inside Longhorn Steakhouse. The victim stated he arrived at the Millionaire Club Airport Terminal and place the belt inside his rented limousine. The limo driver shuttled the victim to Longhorn for dinner. The victim remained at Longhorn while the limo driver returned to the airport. The victim had taken the wrong luggage from the airport and the driver took it back to the terminal. When the driver picked up the victim from the restaurant, the belt was missing. Responding officers searched the limo and airport for the belt without success. On-call CID was consulted, and forensics responded to the scene.

    Victim: Christopher "Jericho" Irvine, W/M, 11/9/70

Did the driver leave the doors unlocked?!
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« Reply #8371 on: September 03, 2019, 08:33:09 PM »
Missed the first 20-ish minutes of SD-

So Bayley and Charlotte have a face off, then Sasha comes out and they end up beating up Charlotte and high-five about it afterwards?  I thought they were supposed to be heels:P :doge
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« Reply #8372 on: September 03, 2019, 08:34:32 PM »
Is MOA JOE starting to go bald??
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« Reply #8373 on: September 03, 2019, 08:42:44 PM »
so are mandy and sonya doing some kind of lesbian gimmick now?

theyre a lot handsier than i remember.

i hope it continues

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« Reply #8374 on: September 03, 2019, 08:45:10 PM »
And you know what happens when Vince thinks of lesbians-



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I love the graphic that just says "THE LESBIANS"  :lol
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King having orgasms and using binoculars
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« Reply #8375 on: September 03, 2019, 08:50:03 PM »
Jerry Lawler from mid 1997 on is one of the most embarrassing characters in the history of pro wrestling

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« Reply #8376 on: September 03, 2019, 08:57:00 PM »
Jerry Lawler from mid 1997 on is one of the most embarrassing characters in the history of pro wrestling

He at least made for a stupid-fun heel-leaning color commentator.  When WWE went PG it was like he got neutered.  :lol
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« Reply #8377 on: September 03, 2019, 09:09:12 PM »
1. Jericho lost the title? WHAT :lol
2. Longhorn Steakhouse :doge

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« Reply #8378 on: September 03, 2019, 09:16:03 PM »
Jerry Lawler from mid 1997 on is one of the most embarrassing characters in the history of pro wrestling

He at least made for a stupid-fun heel-leaning color commentator.  When WWE went PG it was like he got neutered.  :lol

I disagree completely. He was garbage as a color man in WWF PG, WWF TV 14, WWE TV 14, WWE PG. Now, Then, Forever.

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« Reply #8379 on: September 03, 2019, 09:28:23 PM »
Andrade :gloomy

Good match though!

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« Reply #8380 on: September 03, 2019, 09:41:28 PM »
Holy shit at Gable going over Andrade  :o

Jerry Lawler from mid 1997 on is one of the most embarrassing characters in the history of pro wrestling

He at least made for a stupid-fun heel-leaning color commentator.  When WWE went PG it was like he got neutered.  :lol

I disagree completely. He was garbage as a color man in WWF PG, WWF TV 14, WWE TV 14, WWE PG. Now, Then, Forever.

I dunno; I remember liking the JR/King duo a lot when I started watching wrasslin' again in '99 and 2000 or so. 
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« Reply #8381 on: September 03, 2019, 09:41:55 PM »
1. Jericho lost the title? WHAT :lol
2. Longhorn Steakhouse :doge

WWE needs to do a 24/7 belt segment mocking this.
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« Reply #8382 on: September 03, 2019, 09:42:07 PM »
JR/King will always be my favorite announcing duo.

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« Reply #8383 on: September 03, 2019, 09:47:27 PM »
OK, that last 24/7 segment just now was great!  :lol
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« Reply #8384 on: September 03, 2019, 09:48:26 PM »
Andrade :gloomy

Good match though!

lol, here comes that Andrade push
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« Reply #8385 on: September 03, 2019, 09:51:57 PM »
Also, I was secretly kinda hoping for a Ricochet vs Andrade final for KotR but LOL NOPE

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Our options now are probably either Corbin vs Gable or Ricochet vs Elias (Joe is there to take a pin from whoever advances from RAW so the other guy doesn't lose "momentum" or whatever) and while Corbin vs Gable would probably be pretty good (Corbin and Alexander yesterday was surprisingly serviceable, it's like wrestling in a tank top improved Corbin's ability by like 50% or something) Ricochet vs Elias sounds like the drizzling shits, although to be fair pretty much anyone vs Elias at this point sounds awful. Go away, Elias.
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« Reply #8387 on: September 03, 2019, 09:58:25 PM »
Rowan talking "normal" in this promo is so weird.
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« Reply #8389 on: September 03, 2019, 10:01:45 PM »
Hm, I didn't expect that I guess

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« Reply #8390 on: September 03, 2019, 10:10:10 PM »
I legit can't get into ANY of the 'characters' in AEW so far. They mostly all feel like generic create-a-wrestler personas. The wrestling is 'ok'. One thing I really appreciate is the 20 minutes time limit.

I was expecting so much from Kenny Omega after hearing about him and all the type, but .. I can't connect with him at all.

The deathmatch shit is so corny  :-\ , I can't stop laughing at the 2003 edgy-ass gothic dudes everytime they are on screen. I just can't take them seriously. The match with the two Japanese women was.. 6/10 at best. It just lacked energy. I somewhat enjoyed that Luchosoraus + Jungle Boy + almost midget dude, but the guys they were facing were charisma blackholes. The gimmick moves and combos just got stupid at the end.

It'S great that all those guys and gals are getting well paid jobs with tons of advantages, but I can't say I really care for their wrestling personas AT ALL so far. Also wtf was up with the random star trek theme of Cody's fight.

Jericho looked so bloated and out of it too.



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« Reply #8392 on: September 04, 2019, 12:06:19 AM »
...Rowan vs Roman is waaaaaaay less exciting than Bryan vs Roman
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« Reply #8394 on: September 04, 2019, 12:25:54 AM »
...Rowan vs Roman is waaaaaaay less exciting than Bryan vs Roman

I read it as a Rowan vs Roman vs Bryan 3 way match.

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« Reply #8395 on: September 04, 2019, 07:16:14 AM »
WWE needs to do a 24/7 belt segment mocking this.
When Drake won the belt for a sec last night Graves said something like "now he's gotta take a limo to a chain restaurant" :lol

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« Reply #8396 on: September 04, 2019, 08:19:13 AM »
Low key the real :jeanluc part of Jericho losing the title story is that despite the billions behind the promotion, and Jericho himself having a net worth of almost 20 million, Chris Jericho celebrates becoming the first champion of the promotion by going to a chain steak house instead of Tony Khan taking him to one of the 3000 high class dining establishments in Chicago.

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« Reply #8397 on: September 04, 2019, 08:31:26 AM »
not even a good chain either. longhorn is one of those places that is always attached to a mall or random motel. :rofl

they couldn't even spring for a texas roadhouse?

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« Reply #8399 on: September 04, 2019, 10:54:59 AM »
This is the only good (or just only) AEW storyline.
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