Yet another GAF thread - I still haven't got over it :( (No spergfits allowed)

[Himu]

That's why it's not misandry.

Misandry in that situation would be like...

Haha, you got a C? You study like a BOY.

You didn't graduate from college? Way to do it like a BOY!

You abandoned your child? You're such a BOY!

That's not to say that a boy being told they _____ like a girl can't be damaging. It can, and is. But the concerning element of "like a girl" is the very not so subtle pretense that girls are inferior. Because you do it "like a girl".

And with that, I'm gone. I shall preach the AGENDA in my sleep.

[Damian79]

I think Himu is taking you seriously. Because I hope you were being facetious.

I think i need to explain more.  The "like a girl" has rarely ever been used on women because it is redundant on women/girls.  Women have nothing to be ashamed of when being told that because of physiological and social reasons like men build muscle faster and men tend to do more sports in general.  It is an insult to men because that isnt the norm for men.  Because men should in general hit harder than women.  That said I freely admit i do hit like a girl because i do no exercise.  Even so that phrase would be a derogatory one for me because i am not at the norm even though it is true and is used in general to emasculate men.

Or is it the disposable male that you have a problem with?

[WanderingWind]

To add to that, the insult is the direct reference to the concept of women/girls being inferior. So if you're shit at something like throwing a ball, then you do  x "like a girl."

Whenever I heard that crap I tended to play harder.

And I'm sure your underhand softball league was very impressed by your scrappiness.

Softball?

Nah coed soccer, basketball, mixed doubles whatever.

I need to find one of those adult groups that gets together and plays shit, I miss sports.

You know I'm just playing. My minority friend said that joke was cool, so I rolled with it.

And Himu, totally agree. I subscribe to the "misandry is a real thing" train of thought, but to hear the internet tell it, the shit is more rampant than rain. It ain't. "Do X like a girl" is indefensible from that standpoint. It's straight hating on women. There is a lot of crap that is called misogyny that isn't but that one sure as hell is.

[Shadow Mod]

I think Himu is taking you seriously. Because I hope you were being facetious.

I think i need to explain more.  The "like a girl" has rarely ever been used on women because it is redundant on women/girls.  Women have nothing to be ashamed of when being told that because of physiological and social reasons like men build muscle faster and men tend to do more sports in general.  It is an insult to men because that isnt the norm for men.  Because men should in general hit harder than women.  That said I freely admit i do hit like a girl because i do no exercise.  Even so that phrase would be a derogatory one for me because i am not at the norm even though it is true and is used in general to emasculate men.

Or is it the disposable male that you have a problem with?

Serious question, do you not understand why calling someone a woman is an insult to begin with?

[Damian79]

Serious question, do you not understand why calling someone a woman is an insult to begin with?

I can see it as an insult to men but not to women.  I am always confused when people say "damned woman" etc to women.  I know it is meant to be an insult but yeah.

[Shadow Mod]

Serious question, do you not understand why calling someone a woman is an insult to begin with?

I can see it as an insult to men but not to women.  I am always confused when people say "damned woman" etc to women.  I know it is meant to be an insult but yeah.

The whole insult is based on the concept of women/girls being shit. That concept is insulting.

[Damian79]

That's not to say that a boy being told they _____ like a girl can't be damaging. It can, and is. But the concerning element of "like a girl" is the very not so subtle pretense that girls are inferior. Because you do it "like a girl".

I agree with this.  I guess the issue in my mind comes from the fact that i cant fathom it being used on women/girls.

[Rufus]

Patronizing!

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Had to.

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[Damian79]

Serious question, do you not understand why calling someone a woman is an insult to begin with?

I can see it as an insult to men but not to women.  I am always confused when people say "damned woman" etc to women.  I know it is meant to be an insult but yeah.

The whole insult is based on the concept of women/girls being shit. That concept is insulting.

I guess i dont understand that concept.

[Shadow Mod]

Serious question, do you not understand why calling someone a woman is an insult to begin with?

I can see it as an insult to men but not to women.  I am always confused when people say "damned woman" etc to women.  I know it is meant to be an insult but yeah.

The whole insult is based on the concept of women/girls being shit. That concept is insulting.

I guess i dont understand that concept.

Well it's a concept that's long existed.

 

Let's work backwards. If women were considered capable, strong, rational human beings do you think the insults that invoke them would exist?

[Purple Filth]

Serious question, do you not understand why calling someone a woman is an insult to begin with?

I can see it as an insult to men but not to women.  I am always confused when people say "damned woman" etc to women.  I know it is meant to be an insult but yeah.

The whole insult is based on the concept of women/girls being shit. That concept is insulting.

I guess i dont understand that concept.

 

[Shadow Mod]

oh man he wasn't kidding

seriously what is it with the n-fans

I had a thorough discussion once with a mod about social conservatism and bigotry among a lot of ninty fans.

[Damian79]

Well it's a concept that's long existed.

 

Let's work backwards. If women were considered capable, strong, rational human beings do you think the insults that invoke them would exist?

I see now.  Good point.  I never used the negative attribution as the whole thing to women though.  I think both sexes have their weaknesses and strengths so when someone calls someone a man or a woman i apply both positive and negative attributions it so it isnt a negative comment.  It is only when you say you do "x like a girl" or "x like a man" it has specific attributes applied.  I guess people are just mean?

[Damian79]

I had a thorough discussion once with a mod about social conservatism and bigotry among a lot of ninty fans.

I thought i was the only socially conservative nfan(if i can be considered that any more).

[Damian79]

Men are sent to war by other men.

That we are disposable is our own damn fault.

Er it applies to everything.  Sinking ship?  Women and children first.  Burning house? women and children first.   But i guess that died a 100 years ago.  I guess chivalry is really dead and it is now everyone for themselves.

http://news.discovery.com/history/us-history/titanic-women-children-120413.htm

[Shadow Mod]

I had a thorough discussion once with a mod about social conservatism and bigotry among a lot of ninty fans.

I thought i was the only socially conservative nfan(if i can be considered that any more).

Nah there are a lot. We figured it had to do with ninty being the "safe" bet for really sheltering/overly religious parents.

[Damian79]

I see.

[Pickles the Firecat]

Er it applies to everything.  Sinking ship?  Women and children first.  Burning house? women and children first.   But i guess that died a 100 years ago.  I guess chivalry is really dead and it is now everyone for themselves.

http://news.discovery.com/history/us-history/titanic-women-children-120413.htm

Seriously, all the trouble men go through is laughed off and considered inconsequential. Is it inconsequential when it's your great, great, great uncle that died on the Titanic just for being male?

Sometimes it feels as though 10,000 years of outright gender domination isn't worth it.

[Joe Molotov]

  GAY PONY FANARTS
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=118864505
  GAY PONY FANARTS

[octopushover]

MRAs coming up with "tropes" to battle feminism is so absurd that they can't even do it right. It feels like when Conservatives try satire.

[pilonv1]

GAY PONY FANARTS
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=118864505
  GAY PONY FANARTS

I'd rather click on a Father Mike link than that

[Squiddy]

GAY PONY FANARTS
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=118864505
  GAY PONY FANARTS

I wish furries would just collectively commit suicide.

[Phoenix Dark]

Dude is arguing with a fool. Why is he making a 14 minute video about this? He looks silly.

You think some tumblr extremist trans sjw is going to hurt the lgbt movement? It's some teenager no one cares about who can articulate nor form an educated opinion or argument. He shouldn't be taking them serious to begin with.

GAF is full of militant, delusional trans people though so making a thread about this would be suicide.

[Damian79]

Sadly judging by the percentage(like atleast 50%) of new western art that are furries on

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I think western society is gonna get worse.  I am betting on legalised beastiality sooner or later.

[Great Rumbler]

Deadly Premonition? Well that's because they couldn't bother to remove their console filters™ from the PC version.

Fortunately, you can fix that with just a few simple tweaks:

http://blog.metaclassofnil.com/?p=438

[team filler]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=118860950&postcount=2

[Phoenix Dark]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=846731

[Squiddy]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=846731

Race traitor.

[thisismyusername]

Basically.

Deadly Premonition? Well that's because they couldn't bother to remove their console filters™ from the PC version.

Fortunately, you can fix that with just a few simple tweaks:

http://blog.metaclassofnil.com/?p=438

Yeah, but has he fixed you having to reboot your PC because the port freaks out and will crash otherwise? 

[Himu]

"Conditioned?"

[Tasty]

oh man he wasn't kidding

seriously what is it with the n-fans

Damian is an n-fan?

Don't think I've ever seen him post in an N thread here.

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[Phoenix Dark]

There's no denying that western beauty standards are white beauty standards, and they have an undeniable impact on people from a young age. From black/white doll studies to the fact that young white boys in the US have more confidence than any other race of children, partly due to fawning media portrayals.

That being said any black man who hates black women will never have my respect. One of my brothers is in that boat and it's disgusting. My mom is strong beautiful black woman, my grandmothers were strong beautiful black women, etc; I would be a fool not to respect black women today.

[Himu]

"Conditioned?"

Well, standards of beauty are largely cultural, so it's not that far of a jump.

While true, I don't respect it. He can't even give a black woman a shot? Naw, he laid in that bed.

[Himu]

I also doubt the whole "they don't date me because I'm black" thing. Many white girls love black guys. Going by that dossier he gave there's little doubt that he'd be interesting to many white women or women of many races. I'm pretty sure it's something else entirely and there's something he's not telling the thread.

[Phoenix Dark]

Well he's 40 so that's a death blow right out the gate. And he has a kid.

[Himu]

Lord. You called him a coon, pd?

[Phoenix Dark]

Lord. You called him a coon, pd?

I've met too many black men who have said that shit not to know what he's doing. He wants to act like he's open to all races yet the OP is basically "why won't white women love me."

I bet if we delve deeper he'll complain about black women not liking videogames, rock music, regular movies, etc.

[Momo]

Didnt that other kid kill a bunch of women cause white women wouldn't fuck him?
Both of these cases have white women in common, so i'm just going to put the blame squarely where it belongs

[Himu]

Lol

[Himu]

So lemme get this straight. This guy is using his race as an excuse he's not getting any outside his race...in Los Angeles? what's next, New York?

[Phoenix Dark]

It shouldn't be hard to attract a chick as long as you

1) look decent/clean
2) have a car
3) have a place

I live in a city that's very diverse so there's a lot of interracial dating. People tend to date within their socioeconomic environment. White women tend to make more money than black men overall and live in different areas of a state. Interestingly, overweight white women tend to make similar money as black men and live in the same area...


There are plenty of white women who chase black dudes, I don't see how he's having a problem finding one. But if he's looking for a woman making good money and willing to date a 40yr old guy with a kid...good luck. That's not about race.

[Himu]

That list is pretty superficial. Cars and a place have little to do with it. In Houston, everyone has a car. Having a car ain't special. Many I know from the NE and NW don't even have drivers licenses, and people are staying with their parents more often these days for fiscal reasons.

Always odd when guys dish out romance advice and focus on cars and stuff not developing their personalities or something.

[Phoenix Dark]

That list is pretty superficial. Cars and a place have little to do with it. In Houston, everyone has a car. Having a car ain't special. Many I know from the NE and NW don't even have drivers licenses, and people are staying with their parents more often these days for fiscal reasons.

Always odd when guys dish out romance advice and focus on cars and stuff not developing their personalities or something.

People are superficial, that's the point. As long as you're decent looking and somewhat successful you'll be fine in the dating realm. And have a decent personality.

Of course guys should focus on their personality but let's be real: being independent and having money go a long ways.

[brob]

Not a lot of black people around me, but the amount of Pakistani/Indians I know of who explicitly do not date women of their own ethnicity far outweigh those who do. It is the opinion of this white man that this is an expression of self-loathing for one's own culture that leaves lots of fine women available for the likes of me.

Though those same boys get hella pent up seeing their women with a white dude. Because obviously.

[Great Rumbler]

Basically.

Deadly Premonition? Well that's because they couldn't bother to remove their console filters™ from the PC version.

Fortunately, you can fix that with just a few simple tweaks:

http://blog.metaclassofnil.com/?p=438

Yeah, but has he fixed you having to reboot your PC because the port freaks out and will crash otherwise? 

Don't know anything about that, I've been able to play 2 hours of it just fine.

[Yulwei]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=846731

[Himu]

Let's be honest. 40 for a great guy is nothing. It's not age.

[Phoenix Dark]

Not a lot of black people around me, but the amount of Pakistani/Indians I know of who explicitly do not date women of their own ethnicity far outweigh those who do. It is the opinion of this white man that this is an expression of self-loathing for one's own culture that leaves lots of fine women available for the likes of me.

Though those same boys get hella pent up seeing their women with a white dude. Because obviously.

preach

I used to get shade from Arab and Indian dudes every time I talked to one of "their" women. Dudes trying to intimidate me for generic "hi how are you/have you started the project yet/yea that homework was pretty easy/etc" classmate talk.

[Tasty]

Let's be honest. 40 for a great guy is nothing. It's not age.

40 with a kid is definitely huge. Would certainly repel me, anyways.

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[Himu]

Yes, but 40 by itself isn't much of a deterrent. I'm pretty sure it's either because he's a father or because of his personality. But I'm sure there's plenty of women out there who'd be fine being with a single daddy, but who knows. After all, according to that thread, Los Angeles is the most shallow city in America.

[ToxicAdam]

It's not even a racial thing. If you're 40 years old and you're still following your cock around thinking that it's the divining rod to happiness, you're doing it all wrong and haven't learned shit yet.

[Tasty]

After all, according to that thread, Los Angeles is the most shallow city in America.

Isn't it though?

It's Hollywood land, after all.

[Squiddy]

Not a lot of black people around me, but the amount of Pakistani/Indians I know of who explicitly do not date women of their own ethnicity far outweigh those who do. It is the opinion of this white man that this is an expression of self-loathing for one's own culture that leaves lots of fine women available for the likes of me.

Though those same boys get hella pent up seeing their women with a white dude. Because obviously.

preach

I used to get shade from Arab and Indian dudes every time I talked to one of "their" women. Dudes trying to intimidate me for generic "hi how are you/have you started the project yet/yea that homework was pretty easy/etc" classmate talk.

I've had dudes come up to me all angry cause I'm not fased by white or black dudes talking to my sister or asking her out. They call me a pimp cause of it 

And by pimp, they mean it in a derogatory way. Like I'm pimping out my sister to people

My philosophy: When a girl is 18 or over. Be it my sister, mother, cousin or whatever. They're grown women and they make their own decisions, it's none of my business

Honor and shame is are huge parts of it.

[Himu]

Not a lot of black people around me, but the amount of Pakistani/Indians I know of who explicitly do not date women of their own ethnicity far outweigh those who do. It is the opinion of this white man that this is an expression of self-loathing for one's own culture that leaves lots of fine women available for the likes of me.

Though those same boys get hella pent up seeing their women with a white dude. Because obviously.

preach

I used to get shade from Arab and Indian dudes every time I talked to one of "their" women. Dudes trying to intimidate me for generic "hi how are you/have you started the project yet/yea that homework was pretty easy/etc" classmate talk.

I've had dudes come up to me all angry cause I'm not fased by white or black dudes talking to my sister or asking her out. They call me a pimp cause of it 

And by pimp, they mean it in a derogatory way. Like I'm pimping out my sister to people

bwahahahahaHAHAHAHA

[Phoenix Dark]

I forgot to mention working out. You don't have to be buff but but having a form/lean/not being fat is required brehs. It's easy to lose weight brehs, just change your diet and work out a bit each day until you can do it for 30 minutes or more.

*types this while eating White Castle for lunch*

[Squiddy]

I forgot to mention working out. You don't have to be buff but but having a form/lean/not being fat is required brehs. It's easy to lose weight brehs, just change your diet and work out a bit each day until you can do it for 30 minutes or more.

*types this while eating White Castle for lunch*

It's easy to say if you have black muscle fibers  :'(

[Yulwei]

White Castle

 

[Positive Touch]

You don't have to be buff but but having a form/lean/not being fat is required brehs.

  no it aint. main thing required is to not be a complete social fuck up. you give off those creep / failure / psycho vibes and you're not getting anywhere. outside of that ANYONE can get laid, at the very least.

[Himu]

You don't have to be buff but but having a form/lean/not being fat is required brehs.

Wrong. A lot of guys men say are ugly and no woman would ever date actually are very handsome, even if they're overweight.

[Himu]

Being relatively lean and/or buff helps though.

Sure, it can help. But a lot of guys have weird ideas on what women actually find attractive, or have a limited idea on the diversity of types that women find attractive. Remember that pic Momo spammed from BB forums about "average" or "below average" guys getting with really hot girls? A lot of those dudes were cute as hell. Reality is that men really don't know what women find attractive about men. Sometimes they're on the mark, but a lot of times, they don't know what they're talking about. Which is understandable, since more often than not, they aren't attracted to men.