Author Topic: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY (Read 18393 times)

magus · « **Reply #60 on:** June 08, 2013, 08:06:34 PM »

Quote from: Exodust SoulBurn on June 08, 2013, 04:55:14 PM

My opinion on the game sort of dampens as I keep playing. Everything it does it's adequate at doing but rarely gets above said adequacy. Nothing about it sticks out at all. I can see many people here either being extremely disappointed or discarding it completely from their brains after they're done with it.

It's still fun, but not fun enough if that makes sense. That 7.5 score sort of hits the mark for me.

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Naughty Dog’s Max Dyckhoff (Programmer), Doug Holder (Visual Effects Artist), and Reuben Shah (Environment Artist) conducted an IAmA on Reddit today where they shared some intriguing details about the highly praised, The Last of Us, as well as their thoughts about the PS4, the chances that we’ll see Nathan Drake in the future and Polygon.com’s critical review of The Last of Us.

Ahead of the release of The Last of Us reviews have been extremely glowing. Programmer Max Dyckhoff stated that he was up until the wee hours of the morning refreshing this Neogaf review thread anticipating any leaked reviews. Among the dozens of critiques The Last of Us has received this week, Polygon’s 7.5 score may be the most talked about.

When the question was raised about the review during the IAmA, Doug Holder and Reuben Shah’s response to the opinions expressed by Polygon were pretty classy:

Holder: “I like what was said in the text. The reviewer seemed to be emotionally impacted by the experience of the game and the result was that it was not fun for them. By “not fun” I took that to mean it was difficult to experience some of the things in the game and it left a big impact on them emotionally and that wasn’t their cup of tea.”

“They maybe expected something more uplifting and the reality of our vision in this post pandemic world is just not so. Human nature is a scary thing. The reality of such a world would “not be fun”. A perfect score would have been lovely but everyone is entitled to their own opinion and that’s important to us.”

Shah: “Everyone is entitled to their view… even if it’s not what we want to hear/read.”

On the subject of the PS4, Max Dyckhoff had this to say:

“I think the PS4 is pretty awesome. I actually know very little about it, been too busy working on TLOU, but what I saw at the announce makes me excited.”

“I am super excited about the PS4,” he added in a separate response.”The announce back in February was new to me as everyone else. The hardware is bad ass, the games they showed look beautiful, and I have a lot of confidence in what will be shown at E3.”

Lastly, even though The Last of Us is just over the horizon, the Uncharted trilogy remains on the minds of many fans. A Reddit user asked, “Will we see Nathan Drake any more?” Dyckhoff responded.

Max Dyckhoff: To be determined!

you are just so emotional wrecked you can't see the truly beauty of the game

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #61 on:** June 09, 2013, 12:48:59 PM »

Wrath, all I need to know is this: is it better or worse than U2?

Yeti · « **Reply #62 on:** June 10, 2013, 12:10:13 AM »

This thread is just making me want to go back and play some Uncharted

Himu · « **Reply #63 on:** June 10, 2013, 01:18:25 AM »

This thread just makes me want to play more animal crossing. I think I will.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #64 on:** June 10, 2013, 01:35:20 AM »

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on June 10, 2013, 01:18:25 AM

This thread just makes me want to play more animal crossing. I think I will.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #65 on:** June 10, 2013, 01:40:22 AM »

Dude, I know women with better taste in games. Real talk.

Himu · « **Reply #66 on:** June 10, 2013, 01:45:58 AM »

Show them animal crossing and you'll get laid.

mjemirzian · « **Reply #67 on:** June 10, 2013, 02:11:54 AM »

Played the demo on the GoW Ascension disc, it's good. I like how the combat is somewhat randomized, enemies come at you from different directions and with different weapons.

Disappointing to hear that you eventually get overloaded with ammo and goodies and it turns into a shootout. I suppose they need something like "Ranger Hardcore" mode (thinking Metro Last Light).

brob · « **Reply #68 on:** June 10, 2013, 02:54:42 AM »

supposedly the difficulty selection goes easy, normal, hard, survivor. Supposedly x2 damage and hit points are unaffected by difficulty selection, implying that the primary difficulty increase is a tighter strain on your resources.

maybe that works out and the game is fun. :doubtful

Huff · « **Reply #69 on:** June 10, 2013, 11:25:16 AM »

wrath what difficultly did you play on?

Third · « **Reply #70 on:** June 10, 2013, 05:08:52 PM »

Finished it today. One of the best games I've ever played. Not joking.

I thought the praise for Uncharted 3 was a bit overblown. It wasn't that good

But this? Oh man... Naughty God indeed.
Went in with great expectations. The game delivered and more.

chronovore · « **Reply #71 on:** June 10, 2013, 08:02:16 PM »

Quote from: Exodust SoulBurn on June 08, 2013, 06:51:52 AM

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Just got some coffee ready and about to dive in.

All 'dat sand...

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #72 on:** June 10, 2013, 08:04:05 PM »

Haha, so true. God I'm so homesick these days.

Shadow Mod · « **Reply #73 on:** June 10, 2013, 08:04:54 PM »

Animal Crossing talk

wait the fuck happened to

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God damnit.

chronovore · « **Reply #74 on:** June 10, 2013, 08:15:13 PM »

Quote from: Shaka Khan on June 10, 2013, 08:04:05 PM

Haha, so true. God I'm so homesick these days.

When I got homesick, I played Red Dead Redemption, as it is the very picture of the American southwest.

Maybe you could play some Garshasp?

Powerslave · « **Reply #75 on:** June 10, 2013, 08:15:35 PM »

From the people who brought you "Shoot 400 armies in the jungles with some dude who looks like he just got done shopping his clothes at H&M" ......here is gaming's Citizen Kane

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #76 on:** June 10, 2013, 08:21:16 PM »

Quote from: chronovore on June 10, 2013, 08:15:13 PM

Quote from: Shaka Khan on June 10, 2013, 08:04:05 PM
Haha, so true. God I'm so homesick these days.

When I got homesick, I played Red Dead Redemption, as it is the very picture of the American southwest.

Maybe you could play some Garshasp?

No lie. Sometimes I boot Journey and get misty eyed.

bork · « **Reply #77 on:** June 13, 2013, 02:07:34 PM »

After all the E3 stuff, I forgot this was even coming out tomorrow.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #78 on:** June 13, 2013, 02:09:17 PM »

My copy shipped so i'll be playing tomorrow.

Today I'll be downloading Uncharted 3 as a primer.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #79 on:** June 13, 2013, 02:09:26 PM »

Gonna pick this up tomorrow. I've got a $50 Fred Meyer gift card, and it's probably the only game I want this summer that they'll actually carry (ie. Killer is Dead, Dragon's Crown, Tales of Xillia).

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on June 13, 2013, 02:09:17 PM

My copy shipped so i'll be playing tomorrow.

Today I'll be downloading Uncharted 3 as a primer.

Uncharted 3 is shit. AVOID.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #80 on:** June 13, 2013, 02:25:22 PM »

shrug, it's free.

PigSpeakers · « **Reply #81 on:** June 13, 2013, 02:35:21 PM »

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on June 13, 2013, 02:25:22 PM

shrug, it's free.

I didn't think it was that bad. Just more of the same basically. And it was too short. I bought it full price, so if it's free it's worth it. You could do a lot worse for free.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #82 on:** June 13, 2013, 02:39:37 PM »

If it's free, by all means play it. And shit is probably a strong choice of words. I felt that it was short, highly repetitive and uninspired, especially after Uncharted 2.

The heaping amounts of praise that it received from the GAF crowd was undeserved, though.

Rahxephon91 · « **Reply #83 on:** June 13, 2013, 03:02:12 PM »

I really don't think Uncharted 3 is a bad game at all. It's pretty good honestly, it just does nothing new and great after 2. It's more UC2, but done a bit worse.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #84 on:** June 14, 2013, 01:32:02 AM »

Tom Chick single handedly dropped the game's average from 96 to 95...

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/the-last-of-us/critic-reviews

http://www.quartertothree.com/fp/2013/06/12/the-last-of-us-has-real-heart-but-not-much-else/

6/10

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #85 on:** June 14, 2013, 01:44:09 AM »

Yeah, U3 is not bad if you liked U2

The dream sequences were terrible but when are those ever good?

The one aspect of gameplay that was noticeably worse was stealth but you don't really need to use stealth in Uncharted

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #86 on:** June 14, 2013, 01:46:49 AM »

Quote from: Shaka Khan on June 14, 2013, 01:32:02 AM

Tom Chick single handedly dropped the game's average from 96 to 95...

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/the-last-of-us/critic-reviews

http://www.quartertothree.com/fp/2013/06/12/the-last-of-us-has-real-heart-but-not-much-else/

6/10

sounds a lot like what our crazy sand nicca said, just with a lot more verbosity

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #87 on:** June 14, 2013, 01:47:20 AM »

Quote from: Shaka Khan on June 14, 2013, 01:32:02 AM

Tom Chick single handedly dropped the game's average from 96 to 95...

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/the-last-of-us/critic-reviews

http://www.quartertothree.com/fp/2013/06/12/the-last-of-us-has-real-heart-but-not-much-else/

6/10

Rahxephon91 · « **Reply #88 on:** June 14, 2013, 01:49:56 AM »

From the comments section.

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GUYS STOP COMMENTING ON THIS SITE. HE WANTS HITS AND LOTS OF COMMENTS, JUST IGNORE HIM AND MOVE ONE.

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Complete garbage review, at least the gameplay gives you a choice of how to play unlike most of the mediocre borefests out there these days (COD).
Totally undeserved score, find another career please!

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Turgid stealth shooter? That's how the game is supposed to be played, you mother f**ker. It supposed to add a sense of weight and wobbly-ness to Joel's character, it add tension and desperation in battle. Black Ops 2 is shitty with shitty monotonous gameplay running around and doing nothing but shooting generic enemy AI, with shitty graphics and shitty storyline.

What kind of a review is this? You're supposed to be professional and not try to bash on the game with rants and hatred just because you didn't find the gameplay to your liking. Here's an advice, you mother f**king fool, stick to monotonous boring shooters, while we'll stick to masterpieces.

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I bet this taco played the game all guns-blazing and crap. What an idiot. Piss poor reviews like this will always ruin great games.

It's pretty amazing how much people get invested in these games. Games they probably haven't played.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #89 on:** June 14, 2013, 01:52:06 AM »

only cuz it's an exclusive

pilonv1 · « **Reply #90 on:** June 14, 2013, 02:05:11 AM »

Quote from: Shaka Khan on June 14, 2013, 01:32:02 AM

Tom Chick single handedly dropped the game's average from 96 to 95...

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/the-last-of-us/critic-reviews

http://www.quartertothree.com/fp/2013/06/12/the-last-of-us-has-real-heart-but-not-much-else/

6/10

Tom Chick

Not his fault metacritic can't convert his scale properly

mjemirzian · « **Reply #91 on:** June 14, 2013, 02:30:44 AM »

I kind of like the superplay solution to most difficulty issues in games like these. If the player gets stuck just offer to play through the section for them, keep the story moving and such.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #92 on:** June 14, 2013, 07:46:29 AM »

Be warned apparently there's a save bug in this game related to auto-save. Eventually it will get stuck auto-saving and you'll lose progress.

When you start a new game, it will ask you to choose a save slot. Hit O to cancel and it will turn off auto-save. From there you will have to manually save every time you quit the game.

Sucks but thems the breaks sometimes.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #93 on:** June 14, 2013, 07:49:33 AM »

But now there's some people saying that it actually IS saving but you have to go to "Load" instead of "Continue" when starting your game up again. I'm just gonna manually save to risk anything.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #94 on:** June 14, 2013, 10:23:25 AM »

10/10

auto-save issues are by artistic design. They are doubling the emotional impact by making you play through things twice.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #95 on:** June 14, 2013, 11:07:07 AM »

Well I guess I'll just play Uncharted 3 until they patch it.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #96 on:** June 14, 2013, 12:13:56 PM »

That sucks about the bug.

Picked up the game this morning at Fred Meyer. You get a $5 giftcard with it.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #97 on:** June 14, 2013, 12:14:43 PM »

Can't you manually save?

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #98 on:** June 14, 2013, 12:59:02 PM »

From the gaf thread, the only workaround is to play offline. Don't sign into PSN at all.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #99 on:** June 14, 2013, 01:13:04 PM »

https://twitter.com/Naughty_Dog/status/345585713372352512

Patch incoming. Naughty Gods redeemed.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #100 on:** June 14, 2013, 01:18:50 PM »

Awesome. And right before I start playing.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #101 on:** June 14, 2013, 01:48:32 PM »

Just played for around 45 mins, through the prologue and a bit into the first segment. I liked the opening a lot - although it's nothing you haven't already seen in a dozen zombie movies. Voice acting's really good, and the dialogue sounds fairly natural so far.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #102 on:** June 14, 2013, 02:09:17 PM »

Can't wait to get my copy.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #103 on:** June 14, 2013, 02:15:16 PM »

Quote from: Smooth Groove on June 14, 2013, 01:44:09 AM

Yeah, U3 is not bad if you liked U2

The dream sequences were terrible but when are those ever good?

The one aspect of gameplay that was noticeably worse was stealth but you don't really need to use stealth in Uncharted

Actually I didn't mind the dream sequences, they were kinda cool to wade through.

My biggest issue with Uncharted 3 is the story and lack of coherence. Oh, sure, I know the big bad is getting an artifact to try to rule the world but we don't really get motivation or anything like that.

While that complaint can be lobbied at Uncharted 2 as well U2 felt more "summer blockbuster" than U3 to where I could let that slide. U3 just doesn't have that feeling for me. It's pretty apparent the B-team worked on it.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #104 on:** June 14, 2013, 02:21:46 PM »

Quote from: Smooth Groove on June 14, 2013, 01:44:09 AM

Yeah, U3 is not bad if you liked U2

The dream sequences were terrible but when are those ever good?

The one aspect of gameplay that was noticeably worse was stealth but you don't really need to use stealth in Uncharted

I did not like Uncharted 3. Didn't like it so much I never bothered to finish it. Uncharted 2 is a classic. 3 feels like rehash while focusing on the weakest elements of 2.

Just purchased Last of Us.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #105 on:** June 14, 2013, 02:32:56 PM »

I didn't like Uncharted 3 because large parts of it were "Battle Arena: Drake."

I did like the first bit with young Nate and younger Sully. I want a younger Sully game, where you can sleaze it up around the world.

mjemirzian · « **Reply #106 on:** June 14, 2013, 04:49:44 PM »

HD remake on PS4

Naughty Dog pls

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #107 on:** June 14, 2013, 05:02:28 PM »

Hey Sony, thanks for the totally sweet shiny metallic Naughty Dog stickers instead of a manual!

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #108 on:** June 14, 2013, 05:03:32 PM »

I was literally about to make the exact same post.

Quote from: Eschaton on June 14, 2013, 02:25:04 PM

Quote from: Shaka Khan on June 14, 2013, 02:09:17 PM
Can't wait to get my copy.
Might have to come see that

*considers unbricking his PS3 for this*

You're welcome to come see at any time... and touch.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #109 on:** June 14, 2013, 05:05:08 PM »

Quote from: Shaka Khan on June 14, 2013, 05:03:32 PM

I was literally about to make the exact same post.

The case felt pretty light, so I didn't expect much, but wow. I expected more than that!

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #110 on:** June 14, 2013, 05:08:46 PM »

It seems they're going with digital manuals going forward, which is a sad thing going into the new generation. While it's a purely psychological thing, as you've said, feeling the lightness of the case and opening it up to find nothing but stickers took some of the "newness" out of a full priced game.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #111 on:** June 14, 2013, 05:16:27 PM »

Why even bother with the stickers?

Posted on GAF about it, I wonder if I'll get attacked for it.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #112 on:** June 14, 2013, 06:14:28 PM »

15 minutes in and already overloaded with feels. :'(

I'm glad I haven't played a cinematic zombie game in... Forever it feels.

Yeti · « **Reply #113 on:** June 14, 2013, 09:12:16 PM »

I have fond memories as a kid of poring over instruction manuals on the ride home while waiting to play my new game. What do todays kids get to do, read the box cover?

edit: oh wait, I forgot about smartphones, they probably don't even feel that rush of anticipation in having a new game.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #114 on:** June 14, 2013, 09:27:05 PM »

Opening was pretty great.

Game is pretty good so far.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #115 on:** June 14, 2013, 09:45:25 PM »

Quote from: Rahxephon91 on June 14, 2013, 01:49:56 AM

From the comments section.
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GUYS STOP COMMENTING ON THIS SITE. HE WANTS HITS AND LOTS OF COMMENTS, JUST IGNORE HIM AND MOVE ONE.

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Complete garbage review, at least the gameplay gives you a choice of how to play unlike most of the mediocre borefests out there these days (COD).
Totally undeserved score, find another career please!

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Turgid stealth shooter? That's how the game is supposed to be played, you mother f**ker. It supposed to add a sense of weight and wobbly-ness to Joel's character, it add tension and desperation in battle. Black Ops 2 is shitty with shitty monotonous gameplay running around and doing nothing but shooting generic enemy AI, with shitty graphics and shitty storyline.

What kind of a review is this? You're supposed to be professional and not try to bash on the game with rants and hatred just because you didn't find the gameplay to your liking. Here's an advice, you mother f**king fool, stick to monotonous boring shooters, while we'll stick to masterpieces.
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I bet this taco played the game all guns-blazing and crap. What an idiot. Piss poor reviews like this will always ruin great games.
It's pretty amazing how much people get invested in these games. Games they probably haven't played.

haha, they sound like "real hip hop fans" who champion Lupe Fiasco.

Himu · « **Reply #116 on:** June 14, 2013, 09:50:52 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on June 14, 2013, 09:45:25 PM

Quote from: Rahxephon91 on June 14, 2013, 01:49:56 AM
From the comments section.
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GUYS STOP COMMENTING ON THIS SITE. HE WANTS HITS AND LOTS OF COMMENTS, JUST IGNORE HIM AND MOVE ONE.

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Complete garbage review, at least the gameplay gives you a choice of how to play unlike most of the mediocre borefests out there these days (COD).
Totally undeserved score, find another career please!

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Turgid stealth shooter? That's how the game is supposed to be played, you mother f**ker. It supposed to add a sense of weight and wobbly-ness to Joel's character, it add tension and desperation in battle. Black Ops 2 is shitty with shitty monotonous gameplay running around and doing nothing but shooting generic enemy AI, with shitty graphics and shitty storyline.

What kind of a review is this? You're supposed to be professional and not try to bash on the game with rants and hatred just because you didn't find the gameplay to your liking. Here's an advice, you mother f**king fool, stick to monotonous boring shooters, while we'll stick to masterpieces.
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I bet this taco played the game all guns-blazing and crap. What an idiot. Piss poor reviews like this will always ruin great games.
It's pretty amazing how much people get invested in these games. Games they probably haven't played.
haha, they sound like "real hip hop fans" who champion Lupe Fiasco.

AHAHAHAHAHAHA

Huff · « **Reply #117 on:** June 14, 2013, 09:53:54 PM »

Played two hours. Think this is pretty great.

I'm really bad at this whole stealth thing

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #118 on:** June 14, 2013, 11:18:13 PM »

The opening was strong, then I started playing the tutorial and felt an overwhelming feeling of familiarity, which dulled the experience for a bit. Now it's back to being interesting again, thanks to a vastly improved stealth over U2, but the gameplay and graphics aren't heads and shoulders over past ND games.

Though you can see that its pushing the console to its limits.

The story so far isn't out of the ordinary but good VA and feels are elevating it.

So far, and even though they're different type of games, I'm enjoying it as much as U2. Its just as tight with decent pacing.

cool breeze · « **Reply #119 on:** June 15, 2013, 01:14:45 AM »

About an hour in and this is great. One observation seeing as how it's been some time since I played a hollywood game on consoles: lots of detail and ND's craftsmanship feel wasted on the PS3. It's a very nice looking game with some jarring technical shortcomings like the shaky frame rate and lack of, or insufficient, anisotropic filtering. This is coming off like graphics fiend wankery.

An actual complaint about the game is that the controls aren't as tight as I'd like. It's no different than the Uncharted games, only there you aren't worrying about ammo.

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Author Topic: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY (Read 18393 times)