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magus

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It's on everything. Even on fucking OUYA for god's sake.

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Himu

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That's understandable. I just didn't know there was a PSP version! That's what happens when I stop reading gaf.  :lol
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anyone playing the HD remastered second-best game in the series and its lesser, inferior prequel on PS3 yet?

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just bumped this to say that i got the 7777 casino fragment in 13-2 in a half an hour because i am a superb human being
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Himu

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Edging off FFX.

I'm 7 hours into the FFVI replay and I'm heading for the opera house. Last run, I only taught Terra and Celes Esper magic. This time I wanna break the game the fuck open with as little effort as possible. Any ideas on how I should handle Esper use for all my characters this go? I'm planning on teaching them all healing magic like Cure and Life.
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Himu

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I hit Thamasa.

Mannnnn...

Let's talk about Shadow.

I always liked this character. I enjoy how fragmented his dream sequences are. I enjoy that the game never outright tells you that he is Relm's father. I like how they give the player a whole assortment of clues, without ever having some reveal scene, which makes it all the more tragic.

Not to mention the direction of some of the dreams are just high quality for the Super Nintendo, especially the third dream.



How do you guys interpret his character?

I see it as a man ashamed of his past, from train robber to a man who failed to end his friends life as he was bleeding out. He slows down and starts a family, and we don't know if his wife dies or what, but he ends up leaving his daughter to his friend Strago - who is not Relm's actual grandfather. He leaves because he feels he can't escape his past, and likely due to the motif of guilt and shame - a very big and rampant theme in FFVI I'm seeing upon this playthrough - he abandons her thinking a man like himself - a former thief, someone who failed his closest friend at the end of his life - could never be the father she wanted. Which isn't true, but it's probably his reasoning. During the boat trip to Thamasa, he warns Terra that there are some people who have cut off all emotion and severed any emotional tie they have to humanity. So he bottles up his feelings, especially in regards to Relm, and this makes him such a great assassin. But it's shown that he really does care when he rescues the party - and Relm - from the house fire.

The sad thing is, you recruit Shadow and he has the opportunity to tell Relm who he is. He never does. He can put two and two together, because he knows Strago and he left his daughter with Strago, so he definitely knows who she is. Think he doesn't reveal it because Shadow, the man seen as a ruthless assassin, isn't something he feels a daughter should know about? Is it more repressed guilt? Or does he feel he's unworthy of her love for leaving her? We don't know, and we are only left to interpret.

The tragic part is that Shadow decided to stay in Kefka's Tower as it's crumbling. It could be said he dies, facing death, but I don't like that because the entire game, Shadow has been running from his past. Him embracing death even though he has no reason at all to die, doesn't fit his character. I especially enjoy how his ending is ambiguous, and I like to interpret that he escapes in silence from Kefka's Tower, in classic Shadow fashion, gets his life together, and then goes to be a father to Relm. Locke, Celes, Terra, and to a lesser extent, Cyan and Setzer all stop running away from their problems and face them head on. I like to imagine that's the ending for Shadow.

Such a great character and full of mysteries with a kick ass theme.



“He owes allegiance to no one, and will do anything for money. He comes and goes like the wind...”

« Last Edit: April 25, 2014, 02:24:56 PM by Formerly Known As Himuro »
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Himu

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Replaying VI has been an utter treat if only for the music.

This song is so beautiful, even 17 years after i first played it.



“Draped in monster hides, eyes shining with intelligence. A youth surviving against all odds...”








:rejoice





Nobuo Uematsu, my fave game composer :rejoice

:rejoice FINAL FANTASY :rejoice
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demi

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I think Shadow is stupid as fuck. Durrrr lets wait on Floating Island until last second or you lose him forever.

Suck my square shaped dick.
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Waiting on floating continent is easy lol
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Positive Touch

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The tragic part is that Shadow decided to stay in Kefka's Tower as it's crumbling. It could be said he dies, facing death, but I don't like that because the entire game, Shadow has been running from his past. Him embracing death even though he has no reason at all to die, doesn't fit his character. I especially enjoy how his ending is ambiguous, and I like to interpret that he escapes in silence from Kefka's Tower, in classic Shadow fashion, gets his life together, and then goes to be a father to Relm. Locke, Celes, Terra, and to a lesser extent, Cyan and Setzer all stop running away from their problems and face them head on. I like to imagine that's the ending for Shadow.

 :beli yeah no that dude killed himself. theres nothing in the game that ever shows him getting over his guilt (while eeryone else does), plus he never tells anyone the truth or even attempts to. also there is zero indication that he escapes, and the game clearly tries to show you that he is giving up. he helps out his friends one last time, and then gives in to his guilt. sorry!


Waiting on floating continent is easy lol

that part was intense as fuck when i was a kid. a pretty hard boss fight, one of the longest cutscenes i'd ever seen in a game, and then a timed escape with some balls-out hard monster fights. then even when you make it to the end you have to sit there til theres like 3 seconds left, going "is it really worth it to do this all over again? how do i know the game wont be lenient and have him show up later anyway?" then he appears and youre like "LETS GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE JESUS"
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Himu

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The tragic part is that Shadow decided to stay in Kefka's Tower as it's crumbling. It could be said he dies, facing death, but I don't like that because the entire game, Shadow has been running from his past. Him embracing death even though he has no reason at all to die, doesn't fit his character. I especially enjoy how his ending is ambiguous, and I like to interpret that he escapes in silence from Kefka's Tower, in classic Shadow fashion, gets his life together, and then goes to be a father to Relm. Locke, Celes, Terra, and to a lesser extent, Cyan and Setzer all stop running away from their problems and face them head on. I like to imagine that's the ending for Shadow.

 :beli yeah no that dude killed himself. theres nothing in the game that ever shows him getting over his guilt (while eeryone else does), plus he never tells anyone the truth or even attempts to. also there is zero indication that he escapes, and the game clearly tries to show you that he is giving up. he helps out his friends one last time, and then gives in to his guilt. sorry!



It's not true!

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that part was intense as fuck when i was a kid. a pretty hard boss fight, one of the longest cutscenes i'd ever seen in a game, and then a timed escape with some balls-out hard monster fights. then even when you make it to the end you have to sit there til theres like 3 seconds left, going "is it really worth it to do this all over again? how do i know the game wont be lenient and have him show up later anyway?" then he appears and youre like "LETS GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE JESUS"

I enjoy the tension of it. Speaking of the floating continent. I usually grind in the phantom forest to get my guys to level 30 before going there. Not sure if I should that this time? :larry

And yeah, Floating Continent is TOUGH! BEHEMOTHS!!! :rejoice
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 :pacspit those ninja scumbags
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Himu

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the ninja dude in the cave to the sealed realm :gladbron :pacspit
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no clue what you're taking about???
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Himu

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no clue what you're taking about???

There's are two switchrs in the cave to the sealed gate. One on the right has a ninja. It will fuck you up if you're not prepared.
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Trent Dole

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My one full playthrough of VI I did not know to wait for Shadow. Found everyone else in the world of ruin though. If he just dies at the end anyway I don't feel so bad about leaving him behind. And he's a goddamn ninja who comes and goes like the wind anyway, fucker sucks if he leaves us and then can't take care of himself. :pacspit
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Is this thread where we admit our failings as a human being in hopes of bettering ourselves? OK, I'll go first:

I bought Final Fantasy X-2 today.

Himu

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Is this thread where we admit our failings as a human being in hopes of bettering ourselves? OK, I'll go first:

I bought Final Fantasy X-2 today.

You're a fantastic human being. :rejoice
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Himu

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My one full playthrough of VI I did not know to wait for Shadow. Found everyone else in the world of ruin though. If he just dies at the end anyway I don't feel so bad about leaving him behind. And he's a goddamn ninja who comes and goes like the wind anyway, fucker sucks if he leaves us and then can't take care of himself. :pacspit

 :ufup :pacspit
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Trent Dole

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HOW THE FUCK WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW?! There wasn't any internets back in the SNES days :tocry
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Himu

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WHAT CAN I DO FOR YOUUUU?!?!?!
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Trent Dole

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You're gonna make me throw that in my PS2 and play it again, aren't you.
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Himu

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What can I do for you?

I CAN HEAR YOU!

Ano hi kokoro no kanata ni
Egaiteta basho ni iru
Tohou ni kuretetari suru
Keredo mou modorenai

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Himu

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Beat the Floating Continent at level 23.



Intro to World of Ruin is still amazing. FFVI has some odd dialogue as a 28 year old. Some parts are overtly silly, such as,"hate hate hate hate hate you" scenes. To be fair, most of them revolve around Kefka. But when the games direction gets busy it's great. Comparing it to other 16 bit rpgs, it doesn't hit the highs of Dragon Quest V, but it's still up there.

The desolate World of Ruin music



It never ceases to amaze.

The scene where Celes tries to kill herself after losing EVERYTHING, is still just emotionally powerful, and crazy for a game aimed at kids and teenagers.

World of Ruin is my favorite part of FF6. Open-ended exploring, sidequests galore, dungeons, HIDDEN dungeons, hidden characters, CHOICES. :rejoice One of my favorite gaming moments.





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« Last Edit: May 09, 2014, 02:50:45 AM by Formerly Known As Himuro »
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Himu

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Holllllllllllllllllllllllly shit, I haven't heard this song in a long, long time. :whew



:bow :bow :bow :bow :bow
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Joe Molotov

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 :leon

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I've never played FFV
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I've never played FFV
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:leon :leon :leon
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demi

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FFV is pretty good. The Four Job Fiesta helps cut all the bullshit of the Job System. Just know that every enemy and boss are completely do-able. You may have to grind at points.
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Trying to decide which version to play. The PSOne version is only version I own, but everyone hates on that. I'd like to play FFV Advance, but I don't have FFV Advance or a Gameboy Advance. I loaded up a rom on gpSP, but it ran like crap, so I'll pass on that.
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demi

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Just buy a copy. Its not an expensive game. FFV is on Vita, if you want to play that. There's also iOS version.
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I have only played IV to completion and it was amazing.
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Does the PS1 version of V have the atrocious load times of IV / CT?

Himu

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Get a rom for ffv advance
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Rahxephon91

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I've only played V and VI on PS1. It was ok.

Joe Molotov

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Get a rom for ffv advance

No.



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On a whim, I swung by Game Xchange, the only place around that sells GBA stuff. Not only did they have FFVa, but just this morning some kid had traded in an immaculate AGS-101 model SP, which I'd been trying to track down for a while anyway (without paying too much or buying one that was beat to hell).
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demi

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chubby hubby with that gamer swag. no dirty poor antics for him.
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Himu

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Get a rom for ffv advance

No.

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On a whim, I swung by Game Xchange, the only place around that sells GBA stuff. Not only did they have FFVa, but just this morning some kid had traded in an immaculate AGS-101 model SP, which I'd been trying to track down for a while anyway (without paying too much or buying one that was beat to hell).

:bow

GBASP!!!
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The only reason I'd prefer FFV FJF on an emulator is being able to speed up grinding, because god damn it can take forever in the basement of Baal Castle.

Joe Molotov

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Final Fantasy V OST :lawd





Even though I never got more than a few hours into FFV on the PSOne, I used to listen to the soundtrack from Final Fantasy Anthology all the time. :uguu
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i bought final fantasy x-2 HD and i don't know why
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I know why.

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Cuz ur a weeb  :expert
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In FFV related news, I know it won't last forever, but having 4 two-handed Knights just beating the crap out of everything is glorious. :aah

Also, I named my main character "Buttz".
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Himu

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i bought final fantasy x-2 HD and i don't know why

What can I do for you?!?!?!?
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I know why.

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Cuz ur a weeb  :expert
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:uguu :expert :uguu :expert :uguu

I actually played through a large chunk of FFX and barely ever touched X-2, so I figured why not and got it on the cheap.  But it's really, really hard for me to play it.  I started it and immediately was turned off by just about everything except for class-changing in-battle.   :lol :-[

i bought final fantasy x-2 HD and i don't know why

What can I do for you?!?!?!?

This was literally the only thing I remembered about this game.   :lol
« Last Edit: June 18, 2014, 03:40:28 PM by bork laser »
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Himu

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Don't like the battle system? You WOULD like the sailor moon stuff.
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Joe Molotov

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Was hoping for a Red Mage for my Water job, but a Summoner might nice too...



 :cody
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Joe Molotov

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I haven't really studied the classes at all, I just figured it would be good to have someone that could cast a healing spell. Do I have any other options vis-a-vis health at that point, besides just spamming potions?

But why even bother with potions? I'm just letting my party go nucking futs with two-handed 'zerker distinguished mentally-challenged fellow strength.  :maf

Sadly though, atm they not really much stronger than Knights and they lose a ton of agility. :( HULK NEED BETTER GEAR.
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The first time I participated in a FJF, I got a party with Chemist and Blue Mage. The other two didn't even matter at that point, those two alone are enough to break the game solo.

I got burnt out last year loading up with too many challenges at once and kinda gave up on the run. Friend keeps pushing me to participate this year, but It'd just be a normal run if I do. Anything Natural kinda limits things too much for my liking.

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Natural isn't that bad if you don't get a shitty party.  I'd advise against asking for a Berserker Risk on Natural since you can't swap skills around to make Berserkers more useful.

I can't ask for berserker risk on a run registered after the fiesta's started anyway.  :derp

Himu

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Got mage.

Also:



Fuck you FFV iOS.
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Himu

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I wrote Mage before but I meant BLUE Mage. Fuckkkkk
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Joe Molotov

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And the survey says...



HIT MORE THINGS.
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Himu

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I fucking HATE blue magic. FUCK
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demi

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Blue Magic is one of the best classes in the game in the Fiesta.
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Himu

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I know! I just don't like gathering blue magic skills in FF
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Blue mage is one of those classes that can make the game a joke. And if you really wanted to, you could solo the entire game with it.  You just have to go out of your way to get some of the skills, and you have to pray for a Beastmaster for !Control or someone with Charm.

Blue mage can use the Excalipoor with Goblin Punch so it uses the attack power attached to the weapon.  Goblin Punch in a lot of cases is amazing, especially since it ignores reflect and works with the equipped weapon's base power.  And their elemental spells can be amplified by equipping them with a rod. 

I wish I drew Blue Mage, haha. It's just too bad they can be a chore.

Himu

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Yeah I got goblin punch and I'm trashing shit.
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ZephyrFate

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Mog isn't comparable at all. You just bring him with you to different terrains and he learns dances.

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....no one in here mentioned mog :wtf
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demi

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I think we need to call out Joe for not beating FF4. Where is the proof? Show me the fucking receipts.
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