Haven't seen any of the MS crew pimping IE lately...

[Tasty]

you really think they won't be back? don't be naïve, andy.

Lol no.

NOBODY but MS believes in Metro, and Metro's been out for like five years. Google realized the best course of action would be giving users a reprieve from that garbage and so "Metro" mode in Chrome is basically Chrome OS, which runs on notebooks that consistently beat Windows laptops on Amazon. Windows 8 was DOA and Chromebooks are taking over.

[Tasty]

I mean shit, not even the company Microsoft just bought believes in Windows Phone.

[Himu]

Look at this hot mess.



MESS.

[MCD]

8.1 made it more customizable.



you can still turn it to basic wp7 tiles.

@andy, yeah, I know google is ads scum. No need to remind us.

[Positive Touch]

still ugly as shit come on

[recursivelyenumerable]

I thought Steve Buscemi had hipster cred so I'm not seeing your point

and I just ran into someone with a 1520 at local coffee place and hnnnnnnnggg 

[Himu]

8.1 made it more customizable.

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you can still turn it to basic wp7 tiles.

@andy, yeah, I know google is ads scum. No need to remind us.

[Eel O'Brian]

Windows 8.1 is the best tablet OS. Android game devs seem to agree, according to all dem Steam ports 

[Kara]

Be passionate about consumer electronics brehs.

[Tasty]

Windows 8.1 is the best tablet OS. Android game devs seem to agree, according to all dem Steam ports 

Unlike Microsoft stupidity, Android and associated games run on both phones and tablets.

[Raban]

if Windows Phone improved software support, I'd jump ship from Apple in a heartbeat. based Nadella

[Tasty]

it's actually kind of funny watching the mindset of the indie guys.  first ios/android was the best, but then competition stiffened and the average game started doing worse, so they blamed overcrowding and made for the steam hills.  now i'm starting to see grumbling that steam is too overcrowded, and apparently PSN is the new hotness.

so who knows, maybe windows phones are the next step!

Chrome OS will have its day!

Dat NaCl even got Squeenix on board for like two minutes.

[Eel O'Brian]

I knew Andrex would take that shit seriously enough to respond

[Tasty]

I knew Andrex would take that shit seriously enough to respond

Don't make the mistake of thinking I take bullshit like this seriously. 

[Eel O'Brian]

oh but you do

you so do

[Tasty]

[Tasty]

Chrome

Favorite software ever.

Android has always been a hot and cold thing with me. It's nice. Phone tech is exciting. It's easy to just drop out of things and not pay attention to Android for long whiles.

Don't really care about phone/OS wars though. It's very rare for me to go into iOS threads on GAF. I get my faux trolling out here.

[Tasty]

If anything, those years of Linux getting dominated are probably why I don't care.

I wouldn't mind seeing Chrome OS get more used though.

[tiesto]

it's actually kind of funny watching the mindset of the indie guys.  first ios/android was the best, but then competition stiffened and the average game started doing worse, so they blamed overcrowding and made for the steam hills.  now i'm starting to see grumbling that steam is too overcrowded, and apparently PSN is the new hotness.

so who knows, maybe windows phones are the next step!

Nope, the next step is Wii-U: 

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/there-s-an-actual-new-wii-u-exclusive-coming-stealth-inc-2-announced/1100-6419285/

[Momo]

giving up on ie would basically mean giving up on Windows

No this isnt even close to being true. You can bundle any buttfuck browser into windows and people will use it due to it being the default on the most popular os.

[Tasty]

Am I the only one who uses Opera? It's actually really good. It's like Chrome, without the weird dumb shit.

What weird dumb shit do you mean?

Like not having a fucking + icon on the NEW TAB button. That's when I had enough of Google's shenanigans.

[Tasty]

giving up on ie would basically mean giving up on Windows

No this isnt even close to being true. You can bundle any buttfuck browser into windows and people will use it due to it being the default on the most popular os.

In fact, in the EU, IE isn't even the default. They let you choose.

[recursivelyenumerable]

giving up on ie would basically mean giving up on Windows

No this isnt even close to being true. You can bundle any buttfuck browser into windows and people will use it due to it being the default on the most popular os.

And how well would it support new Windows APIs and features?

[Momo]

giving up on ie would basically mean giving up on Windows

No this isnt even close to being true. You can bundle any buttfuck browser into windows and people will use it due to it being the default on the most popular os.

And how well would it support Windows features?

No one cares, thats not why people use IE, people use IE simply because it is bundled with the OS

[recursivelyenumerable]

That's why Microsoft develops IE, though

[Momo]

And thats why I'm saying it doesnt need to be IE. It can be anything, as long as it is bundled in with the OS.

[recursivelyenumerable]

I'm not really sure what the difference between it being IE and not being IE is supposed to be. The marketing team can call the browser anything it likes, really. The engineering team can evolve the browser with whatever strategy they think is most effective, which I guess in the extreme could be a full rewrite, but that's rarely the best approach for evolving software http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html

[Momo]

I'm not really sure what the difference between it being IE and not being IE is supposed to be.

IE right now is a decent browser, it's not awful as it was from IE6 - IE9, people however still associate the name IE with "piece of shit". So by changing the branding, I suspect people will at least try it and then be surprised that [insert new name here] browser from microsoft is in fact not shit. The first thing everyone I know does when loading a new windows OS is install Waterfox/Firefox/K-Meleon/Chrome/Pale Moon whatever floats their boat, but no one I have met in real life actively sits there and goes "maybe i should try IE".

Thats what the difference is

[recursivelyenumerable]

Fine, but that's just a marketing decision

[Momo]

Yes, yes it is

[Rufus]

Fine, but that's just a marketing decision

Sad to say that shit actually matters. It's the devil's work.

[Himu]

Fine, but that's just a marketing decision

It is necessary.

[Tasty]

Microsoft rebrands their shit all the time too, so it really shouldn't be an issue at this point.

Windows Live Search -> Bing
Hotmail -> Outlook.com
Windows Mobile -> Windows Phone
Zune -> Xbox Music

[Himu]

Yep.

IE needs to be rebranded immediately.

[Van Cruncheon]

the browser is archaic. once restful apis hit critical mass i pray to god we never have to endure 2014's gofer again

[headwalk]

Yep.

IE needs to be rebranded immediately.

social explore crush.

[chronovore]

Yep.

IE needs to be rebranded immediately.

social explore crush saga.

FTFY

[recursivelyenumerable]

the browser is archaic. once restful apis hit critical mass i pray to god we never have to endure 2014's gofer again

Maybe if apps ever decide on a consistent place to put a find on page button, among other should-be-but-not-actually-standard navigation and commanding affordances