1,000+ Pages of NeoGAF: The Story of Wasted Lives and Hardcore Salt

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Shidoshi posts at OPA? Especially with their brand of hate that is nearly like NeoFIG's? My opinion of her(?) dropped slightly.

I CAN NEVER MAKE ANYONE HAPPY!!

Hi shidoshi! (Check your PM's)

[Take My Breh Away]

Brothers also had no one complaining about the length because it was $15 and up front with what you were getting (Except the emotional dick punch at the end of the game). It's the same with the Telltale stuff. You can drop some cash on the first episode and if you are hooked, pay for the rest and it's worked out pretty well for them (Though I dropped the cash on The Walking Dead S2 and got bored after Chapter 2 because of the glacial pace. The Wolf Among Us was so much better). The Order is a $60 game that's five hours and no re-playability, no co-op, no multi, no NG+, Nowt. And people are defending it. Even Ryse had a basic horde mode. Or the GOATs of short games, Metal Gear Rising and Bayonetta 2 had tons of easter eggs and additional content to unlock by replaying it. Boss fights and enemy placements would change up depending on difficulty as well as it had some thought put into it. It's what makes the stanning for The Order so patently ridiculous. It's demonstrated it's a five hours one and done production and people want to defend it by using examples that had much more re-playability. 

Also, Order ending spoilers again but

[Mr Gilhaney]

No matter the length, brothers was shit. Molyneux levels of pathetic emotional moment attempts, and it wasn't fun to play either, and the art style was ugly as fuck, and they spoke fucking simmish. Why did I play through that thing. I could have spent that time watching efukt videos.

[Vertigo]

Oh my 

I have nothing against The Order, but it has been delicious seeing the Sony Drones go out to bat for a game that didn't really need the attention other than being a Sony exclusive. Once again kudos to the Order astroturfing team on Gaf. Loudninja,DarkLordMalik,nib95. 100s of new Jr members, Stellar job lads.

The damage control currently being executed on Gaf is breathtaking, we even have mods who should be unbiased and above this doing 'cleanup' work in threads deleting dissenting opinions. I do wonder how many gaffers have already brought the digital version and are getting buyers remorse and can't just cancel their pre order now.

And to think we haven't even gotten to the reviews yet.

[JaseC]

Holy shit, this broad's INSANE:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=152177441&postcount=194

 

I still remember the time I got them to stop acting like a 10 year old girl for one post.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=52338498&postcount=18914

All that because he literately wanted to delete his whole steam library because he didn't want to look at one game.  Never did find out what game it was.

saints row 3
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=84818513

Prior to him announcing what the game was, which came after the ban he'd copped for having a bit of a meltdown due to people asking him what it was despite the fact it was he himself who'd bring the issue up, the running theory is that he was the bloke who demanded a refund on BioInf on religious grounds.

[DarkFlow]

Holy shit, this broad's INSANE:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=152177441&postcount=194

 

I still remember the time I got them to stop acting like a 10 year old girl for one post.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=52338498&postcount=18914

All that because he literately wanted to delete his whole steam library because he didn't want to look at one game.  Never did find out what game it was.

saints row 3
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=84818513

Prior to him announcing what the game was, which came after the ban he'd copped for having a bit of a meltdown due to people asking him what it was despite the fact it was he himself who'd bring the issue up, the running theory is that he was the bloke who demanded a refund on BioInf on religious grounds.

Lol holy shit, I never knew it was saints row.  That makes it all the more amusing somehow. 

[fizzel]

Nowt.

Northerner detected.

Also, Order ending spoilers again but

Too lazy to animate a QTE fail sequence? tsk tsk.

[Eel O'Brian]

I had a rare day where I had absolutely nothing to do yesterday, so I played Dragon Age Inquisition for like 5-6 hours off and on throughout. That was some good shit. That game's gonna last me months. I guess you could say I played a The Order amount of Dragon Age.

[fizzel]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=152177513&postcount=1121

Through gritted teeth i WILL spin around and inspect every inch of these meticulously normal mapped plates, goblets and assorted art assets that were cut from the main game. And god damnit i'll count it as gameplay in the forum shitstorm i'm embroiled in.

[toku]

Nowt.

Northerner detected.

Also, Order ending spoilers again but

Too lazy to animate a QTE fail sequence? tsk tsk.

[sarslip]

holy shit at the eurogamer interview with the RAD creative director, fielding 20 questions about game length, and not saying what the game length is! 
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-02-16-ready-at-dawn-responds-to-concern-over-the-order-1886s-campaign-length?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialoomph

bringing up the price of movies? 

"I know there are numbers out there," he said. "I know why the question comes up. I know numbers have been put out there that are actually not right. It's impossible to finish the game in that time, so we know the numbers are wrong.

oh that time?  fuck, here i was thinking it was this time all along.  thank fuck for this interview to clear things and stuff up.

"If you want to talk about the number of gameplay mechanics, we probably have a lot more than normally any single game would have," he said.

 


gameplay mechanic one: smash x
gameplay mechanic two: smash o

and this is just in the first level!

[kick51]

holy shit at the eurogamer interview with the RAD creative director, fielding 20 questions about game length, and not saying what the game length is! 
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-02-16-ready-at-dawn-responds-to-concern-over-the-order-1886s-campaign-length?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialoomph

bringing up the price of movies? 

"I know there are numbers out there," he said. "I know why the question comes up. I know numbers have been put out there that are actually not right. It's impossible to finish the game in that time, so we know the numbers are wrong.

oh that time?  fuck, here i was thinking it was this time all along.  thank fuck for this interview to clear things and stuff up.

"If you want to talk about the number of gameplay mechanics, we probably have a lot more than normally any single game would have," he said.

 

impossible until some speedrunner finds a way to go out of bounds past all the cutscene and story triggers and wrong warps to the credits in the first chapter then programs the thing to execute code and make it play Criminal Girls

[Rman]

It's kind of hilarious that Angry Birds has more actual gameplay in it than The Order does. Yet those people that vehemently decry mobile gaming as the cancer of gaming will never acknowledge it.

Angry Birds has also been giving new levels and such for free for years!

[kick51]

I had a rare day where I had absolutely nothing to do yesterday, so I played Dragon Age Inquisition for like 5-6 hours off and on throughout. That was some good shit. That game's gonna last me months. I guess you could say I played a The Order amount of Dragon Age.

gaming binges will now be measured in how many times you could've beaten the Order in the same amount of time

this guy in china died of a heart attack after 30 Orders

[Am_I_Anonymous]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=152067929&postcount=21

ITT related crackheads give a hearty "FUCK YOU" to the gene pool.

[Rman]

So according to GAF being concerned about spending 60 dollars on a 5-8 hour game is trolling? What is it about fanboyism that destroys the rational thinking centers of the brain?

[Phoenix Dark]

Partisanship...

I don't play console games nor have I bought a short PC game. Honestly if you're constantly buying videogames for $60 you deserve an L, whether the game is 5 hours or 10+. Waste of money. If I'm going to buy a game at full price it's going to at least be a long term investment though. I put hundreds of hours into StarCraft (1 and 2), a hundred into D3 before throwing it in the bushes, etc; I didn't buy Skyrim at full price but it would have been worth it.

[sarslip]

comparing any game's value to Skyrim is not fair.

they keep bringing up Wolfenstein, which was a semi-linear FPS

also, as a big Wolfenstein series fan,  that game was aiight, not some beckon for determining another game's value

[dmj]

Welp, there's that: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=152282171&postcount=1268

So there's a new run on YT with a guy who's picking up all the collectibles he comes across and is checking out every corner of the map. Comparing his total runtime up to the same point in his most recent upload with the guy who skipped all the collectibles and didn't check every corner, he's only ahead by 25 minutes.

The previous excuse they held onto was that the 5 hour vid was him rushing through the game, and this guy is looking for collectibles and his playtime isn't much longer apparently.  This to be expected since this is a corridor shooter, but still  at the excuses falling apart so quickly.

[kick51]

gaf impressions™ official op yesterday:

The Order 1886 is for lovers of old fashioned single player experiences. For those who want to see strong efforts in storytelling-focused games make a comeback. It's a highly curated museum piece for old-timey, story driven videogames, and if you cherish having a collection of finely produced games, then that's the value of The Order in a nutshell. If you're excited for a strong new IP with endless possibilities and want to see RAD put out new iterations of this level of quality, then give them the nod. I already have.


gaf impressions™ official op today:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=152259866&postcount=1238

(spoilers)

and then:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=152256701&postcount=1233

     

That's not really the point. The game is brimming with brilliance but it's like the story was commissioned or something.

It's puzzling. I've been super torn about it. I shouldn't have to wait for a sequel to get the cherry on top this needs.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=152257730&postcount=1237

I think we should focus on finding out what happened during the development of the game.

Did they run out of time? Where there massive rewrites? Maybe they had this huge vision that ended up getting hugely compromised. Because there's a smoking gun and that's how bold and confident the scriptwriting is. Really good dialogue that sadly falls flat.

Edit:

And also the acting and direction are top fucking notch, so it makes absolutely zero sense. I'm so torn I'm getting whiplash. Lol

I better just let it slide for a while until more people provide their takes.

holy fuck this guy has no clue that he's playing a cinematic piece of shit.  bad at gameplay and story...at this point the only thing he appreciates are the graphics, voice acting, and the potential for a sequel or prequel that makes the first $60 game make sense and validates its existence.  Denial and bargaining  

I think we've found this gen's Lair. 

[sarslip]

"give them the nod, i already have." ? wtf at the sycophantic sequel bargaining bs

[huckleberry]

Wonder how much money this 1 YT video cost RAD.

Goddam brutal.   

[WanderingWind]

800+ posts and counting about how long your video game will last. Arguments, video breakdowns, multi-quotes, anger, bannings, name calling...
Over the motherfucking length of a video game. Has this hobby always been this goddamn embarrassing?

[sarslip]

Has this hobby always been this goddamn embarrassing?

duh

[Am_I_Anonymous]

And yet here all of you are hear beating that dead horse

 

[kick51]

And yet here all of you are hear beating that dead horse

 

i liken us more to vultures


here come the topical stealth excuse-making threads:
 
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=993167

[Phoenix Dark]

Wonder how much money this 1 YT video cost RAD.

Goddam brutal.   

Speaking of which...how long before Sony stans, defenders of gamer rights, champions against corporate greed...start supporting pushes to kill "let's play" content on youtube/twitch/etc. Anyone who has seen or heard about that playthrough has to think twice about buying this shitty game. So when the NPD after the next one* comes out and shows the game bombed, expect them to blame the vidoes.

*I say the next one because the first NPD for the game will get the inevitable "the game was only out for x days in the month, doesn't count!" defense

[ToxicAdam]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=152286677&postcount=29


Found someone's alt account ...

[Joe Molotov]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=152291591&postcount=1486

From post # 67 in this thread 5 years ago. "Google and Sony already announced a partnership that will bring Chrome OS to Bravia TVs" and 2015 Sony Bravia TVs now use Android L.

5 years from leak to implementation! There are similar gems all throughout this thread.

Truly, that thread is full of gems.

[sarslip]

And yet here all of you are hear beating that dead horse

 

i liken us more to vultures


here come the topical stealth excuse-making threads:
 
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=993167

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=152291270&postcount=9
 

[kick51]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=152291591&postcount=1486

From post # 67 in this thread 5 years ago. "Google and Sony already announced a partnership that will bring Chrome OS to Bravia TVs" and 2015 Sony Bravia TVs now use Android L.

5 years from leak to implementation! There are similar gems all throughout this thread.

Truly, that thread is full of gems.

everyone has their thing they are more passionate about than everyone else.  Jeff_rigby's is the ps3 web browser. 

[sarslip]

i love a nice, tight, experience 

[SmokyDave]

And yet here all of you are hear beating that dead horse

 

i liken us more to vultures


here come the topical stealth excuse-making threads:
 
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=993167

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=152291270&postcount=9
 

That dude is bang on. That's exactly what it'll be. I'm buying the fucking thing and I have no issues admitting that. It's a launch game in spirit, if not in timing. Can't believe the shit it's causing.

[sarslip]

everyone has their thing they are more passionate about than everyone else. 

a wild smokydave appears 

[Phoenix Dark]

everyone has their thing they are more passionate about than everyone else. 

a wild smokydave appears 

So...the preservation and purity of the white race?

[Take My Breh Away]

Wonder how much money this 1 YT video cost RAD.

Goddam brutal.   

Speaking of which...how long before Sony stans, defenders of gamer rights, champions against corporate greed...start supporting pushes to kill "let's play" content on youtube/twitch/etc. Anyone who has seen or heard about that playthrough has to think twice about buying this shitty game. So when the NPD after the next one* comes out and shows the game bombed, expect them to blame the vidoes.

*I say the next one because the first NPD for the game will get the inevitable "the game was only out for x days in the month, doesn't count!" defense

They were already on a quest to kill Metacritic after the tepid critical response to Driveclub showed in it's metacritic and the game bombed (And the press said it was still a bad game after the weather patch which made them even more irate). See the massive championing of Eurogamer's decision to kill review scores for example. I'd imagine Lets Plays wouldn't be too far behind if it shows how bad AAA releases are.

Also now people are turning around and blaming Sony for not being up front with the length too

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=152285309&postcount=1750

 

[dmj]

Speaking of which...how long before Sony stans, defenders of gamer rights, champions against corporate greed...start supporting pushes to kill "let's play" content on youtube/twitch/etc. Anyone who has seen or heard about that playthrough has to think twice about buying this shitty game. So when the NPD after the next one* comes out and shows the game bombed, expect them to blame the vidoes.

*I say the next one because the first NPD for the game will get the inevitable "the game was only out for x days in the month, doesn't count!" defense

The game won't flop, it'll be propped up by the fanboys easily.  There hasn't been a big release in months, and with this much on the line, they'll show up in droves to make sure this is a relative success. They bought the unadulterated shitty games such as Killzone and Infamous already this gen, this game will be no different.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=152291270&postcount=9
 

Spot on

[SmokyDave]

So...the preservation and purity of the white race?

Shouldn't you be out somewhere oppressing the transgendered?

[nachobro]

Infamous PS4 wasn't bad from what I played of it. This thing looks like a legit mess though.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

So...the preservation and purity of the white race?

Shouldn't you be out somewhere oppressing the transgendered?

Kinda thought that fell into your wheelhouse man.

[nudemacusers]

And yet here all of you are hear beating that dead horse

 

the horse is in hospice care, i'm just throwing a bbq outside the window

[nudemacusers]

So...the preservation and purity of the white race?

Shouldn't you be out somewhere oppressing the transgendered?

Kinda thought that fell into your wheelhouse man.

not sure about that, dave likes giant fake titties, so it reasons that he wouldn't mind fake vajeens too.

[SmokyDave]

So...the preservation and purity of the white race?

Shouldn't you be out somewhere oppressing the transgendered?

Kinda thought that fell into your wheelhouse man.

Nope. Muslims during the week, gypsies on the weekend. I'm only one man. Had to outsource some work to PD.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

So...the preservation and purity of the white race?

Shouldn't you be out somewhere oppressing the transgendered?

Kinda thought that fell into your wheelhouse man.

Nope. Muslims during the week, gypsies on the weekend. I'm only one man. Had to outsource some work to PD.

I think you're going to have to have a meeting with him. He spends far more time oppressing himself than he does anything else. Might be a communication issue.

[meeb]

2) Quality over quantity? In The Order's case, perhaps finely tuned satisfying gameplay? You don't have to reinvent the wheel to be a worthwhile experience, just polish that wheel to a mirror sheen. "


http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=152292122&postcount=20

loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooolllllll mirror fucking sheen. Hahahahahaha.

[dmj]

http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=993218

omg 

[archie4208]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=152298914&postcount=995

Gotta savor those wood textures. 

[Dennis]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=152298914&postcount=995

Gotta savor those wood textures. 

Clicked on the link expecting delicious wood textures.

 

[Joe Molotov]

2) Quality over quantity? In The Order's case, perhaps finely tuned satisfying gameplay? You don't have to reinvent the wheel to be a worthwhile experience, just polish that wheel to a mirror sheen. "


http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=152292122&postcount=20

loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooolllllll mirror fucking sheen. Hahahahahaha.

Shine that shit up for the Cell off-the-shelf AMD APU.

[sarslip]

the monocle lens flares 

[sarslip]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=152298914&postcount=995

Gotta savor those wood textures. 

did he just call me "my man" pejoratively?? 

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=152301200&postcount=1030

[huckleberry]

Wonder how much money this 1 YT video cost RAD.

Goddam brutal.   

Speaking of which...how long before Sony stans, defenders of gamer rights, champions against corporate greed...start supporting pushes to kill "let's play" content on youtube/twitch/etc. Anyone who has seen or heard about that playthrough has to think twice about buying this shitty game. So when the NPD after the next one* comes out and shows the game bombed, expect them to blame the vidoes.

*I say the next one because the first NPD for the game will get the inevitable "the game was only out for x days in the month, doesn't count!" defense

I'm honestly surprised it hasn't happened sooner.

I will, for the fist time in years, actually look at an NPD thread to see the fallout.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=992204

Hey guys I want to be super cool with you so recommend me some PS4 only games for my PS4. I don't want multiplatform games that are good. I want games ONLY on the PS4.

So how cool am bros? PS4

[octopushover]

2) Quality over quantity? In The Order's case, perhaps finely tuned satisfying gameplay? You don't have to reinvent the wheel to be a worthwhile experience, just polish that wheel to a mirror sheen. "


http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=152292122&postcount=20

loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooolllllll mirror fucking sheen. Hahahahahaha.

you don't have to reinvent the turd to be a worthwhile experience, just polish that turd to a mirror sheen

[I'm a Puppy!]

It's like that Simpsons episode:

- It's just a little QTE heavy it's still good. It's still good
- It's just a little short. It's still good. It's still good.
- The game play is a little bad. It's still good. It's still good.

[nachobro]

Speaking of which...how long before Sony stans, defenders of gamer rights, champions against corporate greed...start supporting pushes to kill "let's play" content on youtube/twitch/etc. Anyone who has seen or heard about that playthrough has to think twice about buying this shitty game. So when the NPD after the next one* comes out and shows the game bombed, expect them to blame the vidoes.

*I say the next one because the first NPD for the game will get the inevitable "the game was only out for x days in the month, doesn't count!" defense

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=152307899&postcount=1185

[nachobro]

Aaaand I got banned

" I am not deleting only negative comments. Discussion of moderation policy on the boards is against TOS. PM a moderator if you have an issue."

Sure, bish

And my post pointing out the deleted posts...deleted 

[Rman]

Aaaand I got banned

" I am not deleting only negative comments. Discussion of moderation policy on the boards is against TOS. PM a moderator if you have an issue."

Sure, bish

That was you lol.

Some Mr. Miyamoto poster got banned too.

[nachobro]

I knew it was coming too. But too funny not to point out.

[SantaC]

Why is gaf defending that pos again? They usually hate the mechanics that the order has: QTE, cutscenes, linear short campaign. Funny how quick gaf is to shit on the battlefield campaigns yet defend shit like this.

because it is an exclusive game.