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mormapope

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Devil's Third looks like a Xbox 360 launch title and it looks like it plays like one. Last gen was pretty fucking good when it came to third person shooters, Western devs and Japanese devs firing on all cylinders.

Gears 1 & 3  :lawd
Vanquish   :noah
Binary Domain  :whoo
Max Payne 3  :rejoice
Dead Space 1 & 2  :phil

OH!

lost planet 1 & 2

Mr. Nobody

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I played Last of Us remastered (got it along with my PS4), and thought it was a decent game, obviously not the type of game I usually go for... but it's definitely better than Uncharted and a good chunk of the "filmic" "AAA" "blockbuster" linear on rails type of games so popular last gen.

While the average AAA shootbang has you just running through environments , at least in TLOU, you can play either stealthy or with guns ablazin'. Environments are also a bit more complex than the linear corridor/big room with tons of waist-high walls dichotomy.

Resource management also comes into play with healthbars and limited healthkits/ammo. This is probably the main reason I prefer the game to its ilk.

Now the story... well the VA is quite good (though Vesperia will always be my favorite game with Troy Baker starring), but the actual conceit is - take a lot of post-apocalyptic/zombie tropes and throw them in the blender... The Road. Walking Dead. Children of Men. Life After People. Even games like Half Life 2, MGS and Ico. Apart from the plot twist (which I didn't particularly care for) at the end, it was pretty predictable.

My biggest problem with the game was that I felt that failure states seemed at random. Like, there were some parts you'd execute the exact same strategy but a Clicker grabbed onto you during attempt A and not during attempt B. Or, you'd execute the exact same motions to sneak past waves of monsters yet get caught during attempt A and not B. IMO, if a game relies on stealth it should be a bit more about pattern memorization than an attempt at AI/randomness.

Never finished the game, but I watched all the cutscenes on youtube.

The plot twist is exactly what I predicted in the first hour of the game.

Best voice acting is still Halo, IMO, thanks to the god-tier voices for Cortana, Master Chief, and The Arbiter. The Prophets were also quite good. Edit: and Captain Keyes (RIP).

Keith David  :lawd

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since balloon fight has now been canonised as an all time great, i wonder how many other childhood defining mid-tier coders on middle of the road nes/snes games never had the corporate ruthlessness to scrape and crawl their way up the ladder to CEO and died penniless, forgotten and alone.

where is the low G man GAF logo?

At my last job I worked with a guy who coded a number of well regarded Amiga/C64 games and probably some okay NES games.

He's 500lbs, depressed, on his second marriage and the woman he is married to is an alcoholic who owes a ton of money to the IRS which has resulted in his paychecks getting garnished. WHERE'S HIS GAF MEMORIAL?!?!

I played Last of Us remastered (got it along with my PS4), and thought it was a decent game, obviously not the type of game I usually go for... but it's definitely better than Uncharted and a good chunk of the "filmic" "AAA" "blockbuster" linear on rails type of games so popular last gen.

While the average AAA shootbang has you just running through environments , at least in TLOU, you can play either stealthy or with guns ablazin'. Environments are also a bit more complex than the linear corridor/big room with tons of waist-high walls dichotomy.

Resource management also comes into play with healthbars and limited healthkits/ammo. This is probably the main reason I prefer the game to its ilk.

Now the story... well the VA is quite good (though Vesperia will always be my favorite game with Troy Baker starring), but the actual conceit is - take a lot of post-apocalyptic/zombie tropes and throw them in the blender... The Road. Walking Dead. Children of Men. Life After People. Even games like Half Life 2, MGS and Ico. Apart from the plot twist (which I didn't particularly care for) at the end, it was pretty predictable.

My biggest problem with the game was that I felt that failure states seemed at random. Like, there were some parts you'd execute the exact same strategy but a Clicker grabbed onto you during attempt A and not during attempt B. Or, you'd execute the exact same motions to sneak past waves of monsters yet get caught during attempt A and not B. IMO, if a game relies on stealth it should be a bit more about pattern memorization than an attempt at AI/randomness.

My problem with TLOU is that it is somehow boring and predictable while still being draining to play. Its basically a slower, more annoying Uncharted with tacked on resource management and crafting.
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Shaka Khan

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"my art team"
you mean those guys that do it for you for free?

Does Timan and his multiple personalities trapped in a basement count?
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My problem with TLOU is that it is somehow boring and predictable while still being draining to play. Its basically a slower, more annoying Uncharted with tacked on resource management and crafting.

I'm just curious, and please don't take this as a slight... but are there any games you actually enjoy? :P
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Kara

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At my last job I worked with a guy who coded a number of well regarded Amiga/C64 games and probably some okay NES games.

He's 500lbs, depressed, on his second marriage and the woman he is married to is an alcoholic who owes a ton of money to the IRS which has resulted in his paychecks getting garnished. WHERE'S HIS GAF MEMORIAL?!?!

He should file an injured spouse claim on his federal income tax return and get those dollas back. :expert



Now the story... well the VA is quite good (though Vesperia will always be my favorite game with Troy Baker starring), but the actual conceit is - take a lot of post-apocalyptic/zombie tropes and throw them in the blender... The Road. Walking Dead. Children of Men. Life After People. Even games like Half Life 2, MGS and Ico. Apart from the plot twist (which I didn't particularly care for) at the end, it was pretty predictable.


I said the same thing at launch and there were plenty of people saying the same thing. Fast forward two weeks later and I got threatened with a ban because I said the same thing. I promise it wasn't even inflammatory. Something along the lines of "It's a decent story, but nothing we haven't seen from post-apocalyptic fiction before." That was borderline trollling, apparently. The cult grew up fast around it. I even love the game, gave the remaster something like  9/10 in my official review. As somebody else said, if you're not calling it "the best game ever" then the rapid fans will throw a shitfit. It's got a great story...for a game. It basically took other works and mashed them together. It's The Road meets every single "tough man must protect innocent youth" ever made. Neat....for a game. But hardly this world shattering event.

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Children of Men  :lawd

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benjipwns

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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=172144460&postcount=462
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also, jezebel isn't part of gawker, and they're usually great.
i don't even

Kara

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Is there no gay TER?

Also, use your real phone number while hobbying brehs.

TLOU felt like the result of a pre-production process that was entirely made up of competitor example/inspiration decks.

"We have the Uncharted engine. We know we're going post-apocalyptic. Here are some ideas that are really hot right now that we could play with."

At least I hope nobody is bland enough to have put that game out as an original idea.

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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=172144460&postcount=462
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also, jezebel isn't part of gawker, and they're usually great.
i don't even

That thread and this one http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1080722

should be plenty amusing for a while

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What I'm saying is if either party doesn't agree the baby shouldn't be born.

I don't mean a guy only. I mean either parent.

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So a forced life and possible hardships for 2 people is the better choice? That's what you are saying right?

Everyone needs to take a chill pill and read my initial posts.

I said either parent should be able to say no.

Doesn't matter if it's a man or woman. Bringing a life into the world isn't some lighthearted decision.

Some of you want to make it about the woman only. That's not what I have been saying

 :derp
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This wouldn't have happened if he just fucked a dude instead.

benjipwns

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So many people praising Jezebel in that thread....it's a bunch of people trying and failing to copy Amanda Marcotte's style, and Amanda Marcotte regularly writes paragraph long run-on sentences that have no subject.

And the rest is just regular Gawker content.

Speaking of which, this is amazing: http://gawker.com/channing-tatum-and-rihanna-explain-the-iran-nuclear-dea-1718253971

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I never really liked Jezebel. I forgot why specifically. I think it just had to do with a lot smug and not so much info or insight.

benjipwns

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Great Moments in Jezebel History:

Shadow Mod

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See what I'd say about the smug.

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doesn't matter who wins the battles we all lose the war

ZephyrFate

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Gawker's best article is probably the one about PrEP. (the one about just fucking taking it)

That's about it.

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Gawker's best article is probably the one about PrEP. (the one about just fucking taking it)

That's about it.

No no no no.

It's breaking the Rob Ford crack story.
MMA

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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=172009409&postcount=433

Rekt.  How many Nintards are claiming they got PTSD after reading this post?

Also Gawker sucks ass.  It's the Weekly World News in clickbait form.

Also, the 1000 year old demon thing has been around for a while.  I've seen it being used (unironically) at least a decade ago, which I think is around the time when Japan decided that all anime required lolis with giant hooters.  The thought process is that they obviously weren't little girls or else they wouldn't have G cup tits but they were really ancient mystical figures instead.  It's only been used ironically a couple of years ago because animunerds kept using that excuse unironically and it's ridiculous.
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1080760

TotalBiscuit is a dork and "The Framerate Police" is pretty cringe worthy but it's good to know what games have a framerate lock and what games don't as some are just irritating to play at 30FPS (Any racing game on PC with a framerate lock is dead to me). Brings about the expected levels of "Boo hoo stop talking about TotalBiscuit GooberGrapers" and corporate apologists making excuses for publishers and developers on Neogaf these days.

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YMMV


thisismyusername

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Evo is that event I always intend to watch but then realize I can't give enough of a fuck about to bother watching the real thing. The whole situation repeats itself when the highlights come out afterwards where I also struggle to make it past like 30 seconds of the video.

Glad it's happening though I suppose.
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Am_I_Anonymous

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YMMV

mormapope

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Why the fuck do some of these dudes crave feather-core hentai in videogames? Isn't the thousands of terabytes of hentai/manga on the internet enough for these dudes?
OH!

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I play the fuck out of Atelier. If another game gave me the kind of crazy ass deep item creation mechanics like this one did, I'd play that too. I get down on that shit since Vagrant Story back in the day.



I personally don't like any of the panty shit in the game though, the older games kept that shit to a minimum. The pre order stuff was always the weird shit. This new one though is looking sorta eehhhhh
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=172049828&postcount=254

At least gaffers don't hide why they 'play' games like this (Image removed from quote.)

I don't understand why they don't crack down on people displaying pictures like that.  Just post the fucking URLs and mark it potentially-NSFW.

Why the fuck do some of these dudes crave feather-core hentai in videogames? Isn't the thousands of terabytes of hentai/manga on the internet enough for these dudes?

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thisismyusername

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Shouta a fraud Ken playing P4Ultimax for a year straight and about to be knocked out on stream. :itagaki

ANNNNNNNNNNNNND knocked out. To the losers he goes.

Tasty

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Shouta a fraud Ken playing P4Ultimax for a year straight and about to be knocked out on stream. :itagaki

ANNNNNNNNNNNNND knocked out. To the losers he goes.

Wait, GAF Shouta?

thisismyusername

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Shouta a fraud Ken playing P4Ultimax for a year straight and about to be knocked out on stream. :itagaki

ANNNNNNNNNNNNND knocked out. To the losers he goes.

Wait, GAF Shouta?

Yes. GAF Shouta. He went to Evo to play P4Ulitmax. Professor Beef of GAF went to play Smash (and I think Street Fighter? IDK, I think Marvel as well?) a few other GAF people went IIRC but those two I know are there.

http://evo2015.s3.amazonaws.com/brackets/players.html

He's doing a few others. Guilty Gear Xrd for instance.

Tasty

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Which Smash is Beef doing? Edit- Ah, Wii U.

That guy was pretty cool during my PokeGAF days.

thisismyusername

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Which Smash is Beef doing?

The new one I think.

http://evo2015.s3.amazonaws.com/brackets/p4_a132.html

There's another GAF member in P4Ultimax.

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How far did Shouta get?

TBH I give him props for competing. :yeshrug

thisismyusername

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How far did Shouta get?

TBH I give him props for competing. :yeshrug

http://evo2015.s3.amazonaws.com/brackets/p4_a130.html

Just his initial bracket so far. He'll be in losers (which isn't on stream, yet? Persona 4's supposed to be all day or so on this stream)

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Beef's out unless he's doing another game.

Tasty

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3-2? Evo's best two of three. ???

thisismyusername

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3-2? Evo's best two of three. ???

He means his win/loss, I'd assume.

Won against three people, got double-eliminated.

Tasty

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Ah I see.


Kara

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Shouta a fraud Ken playing P4Ultimax for a year straight and about to be knocked out on stream. :itagaki

ANNNNNNNNNNNNND knocked out. To the losers he goes.

:aah

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Shouta a fraud Ken playing P4Ultimax for a year straight and about to be knocked out on stream. :itagaki

ANNNNNNNNNNNNND knocked out. To the losers he goes.

:aah

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=172181929&postcount=1728





Kara

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Wake up 15 minutes before you compete brehs.

asians getting bodied in anime games? :dahell
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thisismyusername

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asians getting bodied in anime games? :dahell

One just got dominated by a black guy playing the same character Shouta was. :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Shadow Mod

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Just took a look at Persona. How weak. Here I was hoping it was some competition to see who could make an npc girl go "tee hee" the fastest, not a fighter.

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thisismyusername

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The other NeoGAF dude got knocked out of P4's pools as well.  :lol

That leaves the Street Fighter and Marvel crew (IIRC there's players for those from GAF) left?

Shadow Mod

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Back to the Gawker thing the amount of people suggesting the wife may know about her husband's proclivities is rather suspect. It comes up in other cheating threads too. The girlfriend/wife might know, they might be open.

 :heh

thisismyusername

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Back to the Gawker thing the amount of people suggesting the wife may know about her husband's proclivities is rather suspect. It comes up in other cheating threads too. The girlfriend/wife might know, they might be open.

 :heh

If they were that open, wouldn't they just do swinger parties?  ???

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Maybe they prefer the privacy and discretion of hobbying.

Oh, nvm. :goty2

Use Backpage y'all. :heh