Mike Brown shooting thread - No indictment! Get out and protest!

[T234]

HE BOUGHT SOME CIGARILLOS EVEN THOUGH HE WAS ONLY 18
HE SMOKED SOME MARIJUANA
HE SANG SOME GANGSTER RAP SONGS

Obviously, he was nothing but a thug and his death was the inevitable conclusion of his unfortunate life choices.

If the all caps was true, I woulda been dead before Obama was president.

[ZephyrFate]

Real depressing that our president can't have an honest discussion about race for fear of a rise of angry white cops taking it out on black people and white people getting so anxious about confronting honest, real race issues.

[Human Snorenado]

I mean, they might get so anxious they feel threatened, and if that happens they have the right to shoot whoever is threatening them. 'MERICA!!!

[Madrun Badrun]

Real depressing that our president can't have an honest discussion about race for fear of a rise of angry white cops taking it out on black people and white people getting so anxious about confronting honest, real race issues.

The president can't have an honest discussion about almost all important issues.

[Kara]

Why do you think The Biz paid cash money to have himself Nikolai Yezhov'd.

[Himu]

Interesting tight rope performance by Obama there, blatantly insinuating the criminal justice system isn't fair without outright saying it. If you're expecting him or any president to definitively state that the system is inherently racist you're going to be disappointing, but this is the second time I've seen Obama come close to saying it.

how about you post a link?

[Phoenix Dark]

Interesting tight rope performance by Obama there, blatantly insinuating the criminal justice system isn't fair without outright saying it. If you're expecting him or any president to definitively state that the system is inherently racist you're going to be disappointing, but this is the second time I've seen Obama come close to saying it.

how about you post a link?

[Himu]

[Beezy]

DSLs

[Madrun Badrun]

ya, I'd hit on her.

[Your Stalker]

 

[Joe Molotov]

 

[Madrun Badrun]

 

[Himu]

.......

[TakingBackSunday]

Fuck 

[chronovore]

ya, I'd hit on her.

She's quite striking.

Hey, it's not cool to make jokes about black people being beaten by white supremacists. Reign it the fuck in.

[Himu]

.........

[Skidmark]

It would be fun to read your comments on this issue! looks like i have 28 pages of material 

What do you guys think of this guys take on it? He is a popular libertarian who does a '' '' '' Philosophy '' '' '' show. Honestly if what this guy does is philosophy then Dr. Phil is a brain surgeon.

[Skidmark]

I heard that there was some new cell phone footage that corroborates the idea that Brown was charging at the officer. Any word on that?

it is actually in the video i just posted.

[Himu]

Doesn't that go against the evidence shown in the atopsy report?

[Madrun Badrun]

No and which autopsy?

[Himu]

I heard that there was some new cell phone footage that corroborates the idea that Brown was charging at the officer. Any word on that?

it is actually in the video i just posted.

That video is 30 minutes long

[Himu]

No and which autopsy?

Third.

[Skidmark]

I heard that there was some new cell phone footage that corroborates the idea that Brown was charging at the officer. Any word on that?

it is actually in the video i just posted.

That video is 30 minutes long

You can skip forward to 20:12 or click here: http://youtu.be/9pr1oE34bIM?t=20m12s

[Skidmark]

Just read a couple of pages in the beginning of this thread. Honestly, this thread is the polar opposite of liveleaks comments. I am actually surprised that that is not a good thing.

[Skidmark]

Here is the autopsy:

Autopsy Shows Michael Brown Was Struck at Least 6 Times

One of the bullets entered the top of Mr. Brown’s skull, suggesting his head was bent forward when it struck him and caused a fatal injury, according to Dr. Michael M. Baden, the former chief medical examiner for the City of New York, who flew to Missouri on Sunday at the family’s request to conduct the separate autopsy. It was likely the last of bullets to hit him, he said.

Mr. Brown, 18, was also shot four times in the right arm, he said, adding that all the bullets were fired into his front.



http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/18/us/michael-brown-autopsy-shows-he-was-shot-at-least-6-times.html?_r=0


Edit: Here is the full mobile recording where eyewitness discuss off camera what has happened:

[StealthFan]

Hopefully proescutors are selective with the witnesses they put on the stand. Don't need another Sharkquesha Holdsclaw to poison jurors minds and call white men crackers.

[Himu]

doesn't the shot on the top of the head confirm witnesses saying he basically did an execution shot? Also, his arm has been shot suggesting that his hand was indeed up.

[Madrun Badrun]

http://time.com/3132635/ferguson-coming-race-war-class-warfare/

Totally agree.  Civil rights issues are class issues and they always have been. 

[Himu]

Edit: Here is the full mobile recording where eyewitness discuss off camera what has happened:

This is one witness though. Everyone else says he has his hands up and that the cop basically executed him. What are you trying to say? That the cop was in imminent danger against an unarmed person that he shot 5 times already?

[Skidmark]

Medical examiner, lawyers answer questions about Michael Brown's autopsy

[Himu]

http://time.com/3132635/ferguson-coming-race-war-class-warfare/

Totally agree.  Civil rights issues are class issues and they always have been.

Kareem

[Madrun Badrun]

ya I think he was a basket ball player or something but I don't really follow black entertainment. 

[Himu]

I know who Kareem is, dummy. I just find his statement fucking stupid. If this were a class war, they'd bring these same dukes to OWS. They didn't, especially not at this level.

[Skidmark]

This is one witness though. Everyone else says he has his hands up and that the cop basically executed him. What are you trying to say? That the cop was in imminent danger against an unarmed person that he shot 5 times already?

Why do you assume that i am trying to say something here? 

I will answer your question anyway. Unarmed =\= Not dangerous or lethal.
Many police officers are killed with their own weapons. If you physically attack an officer and go for his weapon then you are using deadly force.

[Himu]

This is one witness though. Everyone else says he has his hands up and that the cop basically executed him. What are you trying to say? That the cop was in imminent danger against an unarmed person that he shot 5 times already?

Why do you assume that i am trying to say something here? 

I will answer your question anyway. Unarmed =\= Not dangerous or lethal.
Many police officers are killed with their own weapons. If you physically attack an officer and go for his weapon then you are using deadly force.

So you believe that a kid in flip flops is going to reach inside a police officers car and try to steal his weapon? That makes no fucking sense. Is there any confirmation that Mike Brown went for the gun? Besides the cop? Because the cop certainly isn't trust worthy in the least bit.

[Skidmark]

This is one witness though. Everyone else says he has his hands up and that the cop basically executed him. What are you trying to say? That the cop was in imminent danger against an unarmed person that he shot 5 times already?

Why do you assume that i am trying to say something here? 

I will answer your question anyway. Unarmed =\= Not dangerous or lethal.
Many police officers are killed with their own weapons. If you physically attack an officer and go for his weapon then you are using deadly force.

So you believe that a kid in flip flops is going to reach inside a police officers car and try to steal his weapon? That makes no fucking sense. Is there any confirmation that Mike Brown went for the gun? Besides the cop? Because the cop certainly isn't trust worthy in the least bit.

How would i know? give it some time, it will probably make more sense.

[Himu]

If the police officers use of force was justified - and it wasn't given 6 shots - he would have:

1. filed an incident report.

2. defend his position

3. not jump out of town

4. the police wouldn't be actively trying to provoke and suppress the people of ferguson

5. the police would not manipulate information to make it appear justified.

6. the police would not have confiscated evidence of a video recording the shooting.

All of these things combined make for some pretty skeptical behavior. If you trust that cop you're silly. So far, nothing on the part of the police gives any evidence nor credence to his side of the story, and their reaction feels like they're trying to cover up and defend him at all costs.

[Himu]

This is one witness though. Everyone else says he has his hands up and that the cop basically executed him. What are you trying to say? That the cop was in imminent danger against an unarmed person that he shot 5 times already?

Why do you assume that i am trying to say something here? 

I will answer your question anyway. Unarmed =\= Not dangerous or lethal.
Many police officers are killed with their own weapons. If you physically attack an officer and go for his weapon then you are using deadly force.

So you believe that a kid in flip flops is going to reach inside a police officers car and try to steal his weapon? That makes no fucking sense. Is there any confirmation that Mike Brown went for the gun? Besides the cop? Because the cop certainly isn't trust worthy in the least bit.

How would i know? give it some time, it will probably make more sense.

[Skidmark]

If the police officers use of force was justified - and it wasn't given 6 shots - he would have:

1. filed an incident report.

2. defend his position

3. not jump out of town

4. the police wouldn't be actively trying to provoke and suppress the people of ferguson

5. the police would not manipulate information to make it appear justified.

6. the police would not have confiscated evidence of a video recording the shooting.

All of these things combined make for some pretty skeptical behavior. If you trust that cop you're silly. So far, nothing on the part of the police gives any evidence nor credence to his side of the story, and their reaction feels like they're trying to cover up and defend him at all costs.

Can you not see those things being explained in different ways? I mean it's a bit one sided.

This is one witness though. Everyone else says he has his hands up and that the cop basically executed him. What are you trying to say? That the cop was in imminent danger against an unarmed person that he shot 5 times already?

Why do you assume that i am trying to say something here? 

I will answer your question anyway. Unarmed =\= Not dangerous or lethal.
Many police officers are killed with their own weapons. If you physically attack an officer and go for his weapon then you are using deadly force.

So you believe that a kid in flip flops is going to reach inside a police officers car and try to steal his weapon? That makes no fucking sense. Is there any confirmation that Mike Brown went for the gun? Besides the cop? Because the cop certainly isn't trust worthy in the least bit.

How would i know? give it some time, it will probably make more sense.

Is there something you don't understand? stop making so many assumptions, it might help with the confusion.

[Himu]

Jesus Christ. Defend systematic oppression, brehs. Please go back to Live Leak or Stormfront.

Anyways



@EliKMBC
#BREAKING: Police advancing on crowd. Guns drawn. Media ordered to stay in taped off area. #Ferguson #MikeBrown



@iamsakuma
Car driver offered to give a ride home to remaining protesters. Police stopped the car, guns drawn
12:06 AM - 19 Aug 2014

[Himu]

@marisastotter
The police are telling Amnesty Int’l to leave. They’re walking away with their hands up while cops aim guns. Incredible.

 

[Kara]

^^^^^What the fuck.

I know who Kareem is, dummy. I just find his statement fucking stupid. If this were a class war, they'd bring these same dukes to OWS. They didn't, especially not at this level.

While I don't believe civil rights issues are purely class issues and that it's treading into brocialist territory to say so, racism is a tool for dividing the proletariat and it seems like you're dismissive of that.

[chronovore]

Pointing fucking guns at Amnesty International and forcing them to leave.  Not allowing media to cover events under threat of arrest.

Congratulations, America, you no longer get to look down at China or Russia.

Yeah, this is pretty disgusting.

[Himu]

I'm not dismissive at all. I'm just tired of people saying,"this is a class thing, not a race thing" which comes off as highly non-constructive given that it is often an argument used by white people to deflect from having to talk about racial issues, and I'm not buying that bullshit from Kareem. I will say that the plight of Ferguson, MO is a combination of factors, but acting like race isn't a huge proponent given 1. the protests, which are racial-based; 2. the shooting itself, which is a key example of racial profiling; and 3. the bias the media has against blacks in the protests, and Mike Brown himself. To say that this is a hint of a class war is fucking stupid. Not because a class war isn't looming - because as the levels between poor and rich grows, there likely will be - but because this particular situations underpinnings are not based around class, but race.

[Shadow Mod]

What's fucked up is it's the militarization of these cops in this town and this long drawn out protest that's letting troublemakers come in and start shit. There wouldn't be shit to start if they couldn't hide in the crowd and the police weren't so keen on fucking everyone over equally. Notice the night they completely backed off shit didn't pop off and ever since then it's gotten worse.

[Himu]

Pointing fucking guns at Amnesty International and forcing them to leave.  Not allowing media to cover events under threat of arrest.

Congratulations, America, you no longer get to look down at China or Russia.

So I can finally post this?

http://thinkprogress.org/world/2014/08/18/3472299/china-russia-iran-ferguson/

[SpeedStats]

Pointing fucking guns at Amnesty International and forcing them to leave.  Not allowing media to cover events under threat of arrest.

Congratulations, America, you no longer get to look down at China or Russia.

Yeah, they just said the same thing.



What a fucking unnecessary mess.

[Himu]

Chickens coming home to roost. It sucks, but I'm actually glad that America is airing its dirty laundry in the open like this. Here's hoping Malcolm X's goal of having the US charged with crimes against human rights come to bear fruit. Keep on moving in this direction, America. Let's see what happens.

[Shadow Mod]

Even Fox News was like "wtf is this."

Fox

News

 

[Shadow Mod]

My dad saw this coming because he spends his time reading about this kind of stuff.

My mom was like "deja vu CNN is doing the 60s coverage."

She's been arrested during a sit in too. Told me how she went limp after she saw them ripping out earrings, taking people by their hair, punching etc.

[Beezy]

just explained the broad strokes of the situation to Mother The Grouch, since she never watches news.  Her only comment: "Are you sure it isn't just some bad people dressing in police costumes to blame on the police?"

 

bless your 200km radius of where you were born life, Mother The Grouch.

 

[Himu]

My dad saw this coming because he spends his time reading about this kind of stuff.

My mom was like "deja vu CNN is doing the 60s coverage."

She's been arrested during a sit in too. Told me how she went limp after she saw them ripping out earrings, taking people by their hair, punching etc.

Our generation needs to come up with a sit in equivalent.

[ZephyrFate]

The class war is coming regardless of racial issues. It's not a question of if or how, but when.

[Yeti]

uhh himu are you not aware of petitiononline.com?

or change.org

[Shadow Mod]

I'm legitimately surprised at how long this lasted. Reminds me a lot of similar and numerous moments from the 60's.

It makes sense to me. The civil rights movement opened a lot of doors and helped make racism become regarded as the evil it is. Now there needs to be a new movement, to show how racism isn't just slavery or slurs. It's a whole slew of things that seem harmless but can escalate the very same "harmless" people into dangerous positions. Racial profiling, gentrification, etc. And it took the tragic deaths of young black men and women with the murderers being protected for this to happen.

Is it me? Or has there been way more obvious examples like this lately? Or am I just grown enough to notice them now?

We can connect the dots more readily now thanks to social media.

[Shadow Mod]

I think it goes even beyond that. The US has been rapidly becoming more and more fascist. People are finally waking up to what it means by witnessing Ferguson. You have the Pentagon giving away and selling shit used in Iraq to local police departments under the guise of "domestic terrorism." What's it truly mean other than a stamping out of citizen uprising. This shit's just the beginning and it's gone on this long because racial tensions makes it even more easy to intimidate, threaten and gas an entire black community, but it won't end there unless people wake up.

[Shadow Mod]

To be fair it was something coalescing before that fucknut came into office but he definitely expedited the process.

[Cerveza mas fina]

With the rise of China and India and other countries it inevitable that our western working classes will become poorer again.

The 50/60 post war years of middle class bliss were just an anomaly due to a number of geo political and economical factors.

We can't all get richer, but as we aren't producing anything real we def won't.

[Shadow Mod]

With the rise of China and India and other countries it inevitable that our western working classes will become poorer again.

The 50/60 post war years of middle class bliss were just an anomaly due to a number of geo political and economical factors.

We can't all get richer, but as we aren't producing anything real we def won't.

And what we do produce is military weaponry and equipment, and when someone wants to shut that shit down so called liberal senators like Feinstein fight it tooth and nail because those are jobs for her constituents. It's a fucking mess.