Mike Brown shooting thread - No indictment! Get out and protest!

[Barry Egan]

Personally I'm more bothered by the classically american frontier attitude toward self defense than any cryptoracism at this point. You struggle with someone in the car or they rush you and it's okay to pump a clip into them.

Where does escalation and de-escalation of force ever enter into the equation here?

As a mental excercise, I imagined a situation in which the police force had acted this way towards a white person, and JayDubya remained consistent in his response.  Does the shift in circumstance make me more receptive to his argument?  Hhhhmmm.

Nope.  Still creeped the fuck out.  Ick. 

[CatsCatsCats]

What I'm trying to have you see is they're labelling you a racist because they believe you don't think that need of the black community that we discussed before should be addressed.

[Steve Contra]

What I have a problem with JD is that you always would err on the side of the non-government entity in almost everything. Yet when it comes to this, well the Government must be trusted and given as much power as they deem necessary. It's an APF contrarian type move.

Without the sense of humor and self-awareness we get from APF, one of the GOAT Gaf trolls.

[Van Cruncheon]

ad hominem is perfectly acceptable when one makes an argument predicated on the complexities of racial history in america and the importance of understanding the cultural contexts in which these situations arise, only to have the response be a fully-dilated fisking with the subsequent myopia over a tangential error or controversial assertion and suddenly all the fisker can talk about is how the whole fucking forest is ACTUALLY the real racist because the fiskee mistook ulmus glabra for ulmus davidiana, i mean DUH, can't you smarmy circle-jerking assholes even get ONE fact right hurrrrrrrrr farrrrrrrt all trees are lazy and democrats just enable them, get to cutting

[TakingBackSunday]

I would love to see JayDub's spin on this:

http://nypost.com/2014/12/03/cop-cleared-in-eric-garner-chokehold-death/?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter&utm_medium=SocialFlow

oh wait.  No I don't.  Because I'm ignoring him.

[Steve Contra]

No indictment in Eric Garner's death.

http://nypost.com/2014/12/03/cop-cleared-in-eric-garner-chokehold-death/

Kill a dude selling loose cigarettes with an illegal chokehold, get free and pretend cops don't have a problem brehs

[sarslip]

[Mr. Gundam]

I'm not coming from an accusatory tone or trying to shut down discussion, JD, so why have you not given my post a response and yet chose to engage with those who are? Without a response the only conclusion I can draw logically is that you have no intention to engage in real discourse here and are just attempting to get a rise out of people.

Probably the same reason why he never responded to my question about the concept of "privilege" being so horrendously offensive.

[Mr. Nobody]

No indictment in Eric Garner's death.

http://nypost.com/2014/12/03/cop-cleared-in-eric-garner-chokehold-death/

Kill a dude selling loose cigarettes with an illegal chokehold, get free and pretend cops don't have a problem brehs

All on camera too. 

[Human Snorenado]

Yeah, cameras aren't gonna stop the worst shit. Need to change laws, maybe force cops to wear all pink and tutus or some shit.

[Van Cruncheon]

http://www.clickhole.com/article/8-dumbest-criminals-all-time-1532?utm_campaign=default&utm_medium=ShareTools&utm_source=facebook

[Great Rumbler]

http://www.clickhole.com/article/8-dumbest-criminals-all-time-1532?utm_campaign=default&utm_medium=ShareTools&utm_source=facebook

 

[T234]

http://www.theonion.com/articles/why-do-all-these-homosexuals-keep-sucking-my-cock,11150/

Oh my god why have I never read this

[Joe Molotov]

http://www.theonion.com/articles/why-do-all-these-homosexuals-keep-sucking-my-cock,11150/

Oh my god why have I never read this

It's one of the classics.

[Brehvolution]

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/unmasking-Ferguson-witness-40-496236

Fox news, RW media, and Jaydubya all used this lady's testimony as justification for their views.

[Van Cruncheon]

well, she *is* white and therefore sympathetic. i mean, SHE didn't charge officer darren wilson like a giant murderous thug-slash-bull, rip his car door off with her monstrous jaws, and punch his eyeball into the next state before absorbing several police-issue rounds.

game set match, libtards!

[thisismyusername]

No indictment in Eric Garner's death.

http://nypost.com/2014/12/03/cop-cleared-in-eric-garner-chokehold-death/

Kill a dude selling loose cigarettes with an illegal chokehold, get free and pretend cops don't have a problem brehs

On this tangent, had this float up on Facebook over the Garner case timeline:

http://i.minus.com/jQ7qwLCfEKbCb.PNG

kek.

[Rufus]

After killing a man at an Ohio Walmart, police interrogated his girlfriend, accusing her of lying, threatening her with jail time and suggesting she could be on drugs, according to a video obtained by CNN.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/12/16/justice/walmart-shooting-john-crawford/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

They only tell her what's happened after they try to get her to say something that might justify the shooting.

[Great Rumbler]

Shoot a man dead for carrying around a BB gun and then grill his girlfriend for 45 minutes to get her to say something to justify yourself.

[Great Rumbler]

"There were people who came in and yes, absolutely lied under oath," St. Louis County prosecutor Bob McCulloch said. "Some lied to the FBI. Even though they’re not under oath, that’s another potential offense — a federal offense."

"I thought it was much more important to present the entire picture and say, 'Listen, this is what this witness says he saw,'" he added.

[Positive Touch]

I HATE THAT THIS MOTHERFUCKER STILL HAS A JOB

[Trent Dole]

Isn't a jury that has been unknowingly lied to a tainted jury or some shit? Just what the fuck This can't actually be acceptable legally.

[Positive Touch]

it's "legal" if the establishment backs him and gives no fucks what anyone else thinks

[Brehvolution]

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-affiliate-edits-protest-chant-to-sound-like-kill-a-cop/

 

[Great Rumbler]

Dorian Johnson is one of the few witnesses whose testimony remained consistent across multiple interviews, FYI.

[Brehvolution]

There won't be any perjury charges since the defense already got what it wanted. It's sealed and flushed.

[Great Rumbler]

A Baltimore Fox affiliate apologized Monday night for a report it ran over the weekend that deceptively edited protestors to look like they were chanting "kill a cop."

Gawker originally caught WBFF chopping up footage of a protest chant to sound like incitement to murder police on Monday.

The chant went "we won't stop, we can't stop, 'til killer cops, are in cell blocks," according to C-SPAN footage.

But WBFF cut the audio short and told viewers that the words were in fact "we won't stop, we can't stop, so kill a cop."

The station apologized both on its Facebook page and in an interview with one of the protestors leading the chant, Tawanda Jones.

"Although last night’s report reflected an honest misunderstanding of what the protesters were saying, we apologize for the error," the post read.

"We have deleted the story on our webpage and we offered to have Ms. Jones on Fox45 News at 5:00 tonight for a live interview," it continued.

In that interview, Jones called out the station several times for misrepresenting her words.

"The interesting part that really gets to me is, where you guys edited it and stopped — like, how could that be a mistake?" she said.

"Once you play that whole thing, you would know that's not something that's being said," she added.

The interviewer apologized several times, and though Jones told the station she was grateful to come on, she also said she now fears for her reputation and her safety. Near the end of the interview she began to cry.

"At the end of the day, people's lives are on the line," she said. "Now, even though we're doing this, I still don't feel safe because I still feel like the message is out there."

"What if a crazed-out cop or a crazed-out supporter thinks I'm trying to get cops killed?" she later said, wiping tears from her face.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

A Baltimore Fox affiliate apologized Monday night for a report it ran over the weekend that deceptively edited protestors to look like they were chanting "kill a cop."

Gawker originally caught WBFF chopping up footage of a protest chant to sound like incitement to murder police on Monday.

The chant went "we won't stop, we can't stop, 'til killer cops, are in cell blocks," according to C-SPAN footage.

But WBFF cut the audio short and told viewers that the words were in fact "we won't stop, we can't stop, so kill a cop."

The station apologized both on its Facebook page and in an interview with one of the protestors leading the chant, Tawanda Jones.

"Although last night’s report reflected an honest misunderstanding of what the protesters were saying, we apologize for the error," the post read.

"We have deleted the story on our webpage and we offered to have Ms. Jones on Fox45 News at 5:00 tonight for a live interview," it continued.

In that interview, Jones called out the station several times for misrepresenting her words.

"The interesting part that really gets to me is, where you guys edited it and stopped — like, how could that be a mistake?" she said.

"Once you play that whole thing, you would know that's not something that's being said," she added.

The interviewer apologized several times, and though Jones told the station she was grateful to come on, she also said she now fears for her reputation and her safety. Near the end of the interview she began to cry.

"At the end of the day, people's lives are on the line," she said. "Now, even though we're doing this, I still don't feel safe because I still feel like the message is out there."

"What if a crazed-out cop or a crazed-out supporter thinks I'm trying to get cops killed?" she later said, wiping tears from her face.

[I'm a Puppy!]

"honest misunderstanding"

[Madrun Badrun]

We totally heard kill a cop and thought we'd try to make it more clear for our aging audience. 

[Brehvolution]

The guy standing next to Mike Brown during all this has a tall tale completely at odds with people who may not have even been there? 
That indisputable evidence.

[toku]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/12/23/us-usa-police-nypd-race-insight-idUSKBN0K11EV20141223?utm_source=twitter

[Positive Touch]

Perjury charges should be absolutely be filed against anyone who demonstrably lied under oath to the grand jury.

Of course, that includes Dorian Johnson as well as many others.

The forensic facts of the case are clear and many "witnesses" were completely full of shit.

you're a fucking embarrassment, dude

[Phoenix Dark]

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/12/21/3606084/how-a-startling-admission-from-the-ferguson-prosector-could-restart-the-case-against-darren-wilson/



pls tell me this isn't just liberal bullshit/wishing

[Joe Molotov]

they ain't reopening this case

[Eric P]

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/police-plan-media-briefing-on-fatal-shooting-by-berkeley-officer/article_d45db16a-7422-5307-b81d-b45dbdc896ba.html

for fuck's sake

[Great Rumbler]

Not sure what's worse: not even taking this to a grand jury at all or the clown show grand jury we got.

[kick51]

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/police-plan-media-briefing-on-fatal-shooting-by-berkeley-officer/article_d45db16a-7422-5307-b81d-b45dbdc896ba.html

for fuck's sake

but this time he actually had a gun, there's video of it. 

[Eric P]

Yeah just read about that right now

why the fuck would you pull a gun on a cop ever much less in this climate?

[kick51]

Yeah just read about that right now

why the fuck would you pull a gun on a cop ever much less in this climate?

heard on the radio he was 18, probably a combination of young and pissed and maybe drugs/alcohol

[Phoenix Dark]

hard to feel bad about someone getting killed after pointing a gun at a cop, compared to the tons of people who have been killed by cops for no reason.

[Positive Touch]

look at that video and tell me it's clear that he pulled a gun

[toku]

gonna need better footage of that to get me to believe he pulled a gun

[Positive Touch]

https://twitter.com/Fleeky_ree/status/547990846529077248

yeah I just don't see the gun thing here. clearly looks like a light from his phone.

I just can't trust a single thing these cops say. not only did they lie on Mike Brown, but they told even worse lies on the other two dudes that were killed here. and pulling a phone on a cop makes sense; pulling a gun on a cop fits in too conveniently with the whole "angry black dudes gunning for the cops narrative" they've been trying to push since day one.

[Human Snorenado]

I don't feel safe with dangerous thugs like these roaming our streets.

http://nypost.com/2010/08/04/rudy-giulianis-daughter-arrested-for-shoplifting/

[Great Rumbler]

Have a famous, super-rich dad and get busted for stealing $100 worth of lipstick.

[El Babua]

During the wait for cops to arrive, store officials established the suspect’s identity, and apparently had a change of heart and declined to press charges. But by then it was too late, and the daughter of the man who built a reputation for being tough on crime was carted out in handcuffs.

[kick51]

first shoplifting

then crack



then it's gonna be like...

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[Great Rumbler]

One of the members of the grand jury that decided not to indict a Ferguson, Mo., police officer in the Michael Brown shooting has sued the St. Louis County prosecutor who oversaw the case, St. Louis Public Radio reported Monday.

The St. Louis County grand juror, who is remaining anonymous, alleges that prosecutor Robert McCulloch's "public characterization" of the grand jury does not reflect the juror's own views.

“In [the grand juror]’s view, the current information available about the grand jurors’ views is not entirely accurate — especially the implication that all grand jurors believed that there was no support for any charges,” the lawsuit says, per the news outlet. “Moreover, the public characterization of the grand jurors’ view of witnesses and evidence does not accord with [Doe]’s own.”

The lawsuit asks for an injunction that would allow the juror to speak publicly about the Brown case. The juror is being represented by the American Civil Liberties Union of Missouri.

[Beezy]

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2015/01/cleveland_releases_extended_fo.html

[Beezy]

https://vine.co/v/Opw6ZBO3XUW

[Rufus]

And yet someone will have called that a "good shooting".

[T-Short]

Semi related

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/george-zimmerman-arrested-aggravated-assault-weapon-n283586

George Zimmerman was arrested late Friday for aggravated assault in a domestic violence case, according to Florida's Seminole County Sheriff's Office.

Then 31-year-old was detained at 10 p.m in Lake Mary, near Orlando, and has been denied bail, according his booking record. He is due to appear in court at 9 a.m. Saturday.

"Zimmerman was charged with aggravated assault and is currently on a no bond status," the Sheriff's Office said. "The next step in the process is first appearance. At this time, the judge may address bond status."

[Beezy]

And yet someone will have called that a "good shooting".

That was the 2nd unarmed person that he killed in 2 years. And I don't think either went to trial.

[Rufus]

[benjipwns]

Finally, our long national nightmare is over, racism is defeated.

The Justice Department announced it will not pursue federal civil rights charges against Darren Wilson, the Ferguson, Missouri police officer who fatally shot an unarmed man.

The Justice Department also will not immediately press charges against the Ferguson Police Department.

Instead, the DOJ says it will work towards a settlement with city officials to deal with significant constitutional violations outlined in a report released Wednesday.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Finally, our long national nightmare is over, racism is defeated.

The Justice Department announced it will not pursue federal civil rights charges against Darren Wilson, the Ferguson, Missouri police officer who fatally shot an unarmed man.

The Justice Department also will not immediately press charges against the Ferguson Police Department.

Instead, the DOJ says it will work towards a settlement with city officials to deal with significant constitutional violations outlined in a report released Wednesday.

Hey that's your liberal government's way of solving every problem. Just throw some money at it.

[Joe Molotov]

Finally, our long national nightmare is over, racism is defeated.

The Justice Department announced it will not pursue federal civil rights charges against Darren Wilson, the Ferguson, Missouri police officer who fatally shot an unarmed man.

The Justice Department also will not immediately press charges against the Ferguson Police Department.

Instead, the DOJ says it will work towards a settlement with city officials to deal with significant constitutional violations outlined in a report released Wednesday.

Hey that's your liberal government's way of solving every problem. Just throw some money at it.

Benji's actively working to topple the government through subversive posts at NeoGAF.

[I'm a Puppy!]

Finally, our long national nightmare is over, racism is defeated.

The Justice Department announced it will not pursue federal civil rights charges against Darren Wilson, the Ferguson, Missouri police officer who fatally shot an unarmed man.

The Justice Department also will not immediately press charges against the Ferguson Police Department.

Instead, the DOJ says it will work towards a settlement with city officials to deal with significant constitutional violations outlined in a report released Wednesday.

Seriously?

[Phoenix Dark]

Ferguson Judge Who Drove Up Court Revenue Resigns As State Judge Takes Control
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/09/ferguson-judge-resigns_n_6835274.html?utm_hp_ref=tw

good