#dunhamgate

[TakingBackSunday]

wooooooof

[Himu]

this is really weird, but she is pretty much modern day nobility.  By aristocratic standards this is pretty tame family behavior.

how's she nobility?

[Great Rumbler]

I really don't like the idea of attacking someone for something they did back when they were seven years old, no matter how bad that thing is. I mean, there's plenty enough things that she's said and done as an adult if you want to attack her. But what really bothers me about this whole thing is that she treats the episode like it's just some humorous childhood anecdote, rather than the sort of thing that you desperately hope to forget and leave buried forever.

[WanderingWind]

Social conservatives couldn't have scripted this any better. And the "people" leaping to defend her are only fuel for their fire.

[jakefromstatefarm]

And the art they drew of her was vulgar and ugly too

yeaaah, I had reservations while reading that. on the one hand, it's really satisfying seeing Dunham getting taken to task over her voice of a generation posturing; on the other, the overall tone of the piece is one that's already made up it's mind that it's ok to be infinitely vitriolic towards her character because...she's privileged and was raised surrounded by wall portraits of vaginas. I think the art reflects the intent pretty well.

something something constructive discourse something something ideological trench warfare


"Nuance is dead." -Phoenich Darknietzsche

[benjipwns]

the overall tone of the piece is one that's already made up it's mind that it's ok to be infinitely vitriolic towards her character because...she's privileged and was raised surrounded by wall portraits of vaginas.

Just wait until they write about Toy Soldier's daughter.

[Tribal]

I guarantee Opiate's cell walls just got covered in jizz

[Eel O'Brian]

this is really weird, but she is pretty much modern day nobility.  By aristocratic standards this is pretty tame family behavior.

how's she nobility?

well, she was going through the motions of inbreeding and incest

[Freyj]

Her interview on Stern was probably the worst I've heard in years, and that's saying something because Stern does a lot of boring interviews nowadays.

[StealthFan]

I'll admit a single like from PeeDee is worth a dozen Esch likes, but still.

[I'm a Puppy!]

Post for the likes brehs

[Mr. Nobody]

"Nuance is dead." -Phoenich Darknietzsche

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I can't fucking believe I only got a single like for this shit.

It was a spur of the moment shop. A simple yet brilliant idea, executed with style and panache. Do you know what panache means? Of course you don't, you simple peasants.

I'll admit a single like from PeeDee is worth a dozen Esch likes, but still.

Well now I might unlike it just to spite you 

[nudemacusers]

derp wrong thread.

lets talk about pebbles instead.

[octopushover]

i don't know what's worse, the unsupervised activity that led to the pebbles being put in the vagina or the horrendous landscaping of an aristocratic homestead that led to pebbles being available in the first place. 

[Kara]

A simple yet brilliant idea, executed with style and panache. Do you know what panache means? Of course you don't, you simple peasants.

[StealthFan]

"Nuance is dead." -Phoenich Darknietzsche

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I can't fucking believe I only got a single like for this shit.

It was a spur of the moment shop. A simple yet brilliant idea, executed with style and panache. Do you know what panache means? Of course you don't, you simple peasants.

I'll admit a single like from PeeDee is worth a dozen Esch likes, but still.

You're just an unlikeable person,  plain and simple. It's why Stealthfan is laughing at your jokes.

I was just laughing at that niccas brazen ass call-out. You know I want to taste that Indian ass.

[nudemacusers]

i don't know what's worse, the unsupervised activity that led to the pebbles being put in the vagina or the horrendous landscaping of an aristocratic homestead that led to pebbles being available in the first place. 

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Lena Dunham is an unlikable person once people actually read or listen to what she has to say about anything.  She's basically a doughy womanchild who is passionately in love with herself so she can't imagine why she did anything wrong there, which is why she shared the story in the first place.

[Atramental]

One of my preachy liberal friends (or rather acquaintance) from college.

[Kara]

Anyone who seriously considers themselves the voice of a generation can fuck right off. Especially since her generation (which is also mine), was largely defined by low wage service jobs, and a real struggle. Here's this chick from inherited wealth thinking her stories represent us, like she's the J.D. Saliger of our age. Comparing Dunham to Salinger is like comparing Jason Richardson to Michael Jordan. The whole thing is a farce. Even though I've been amused by the show at times. it isn't even close to being "voice of a generation" worthy. Her show is a glorified Sex and the City.

I saw the inanest minds of my generation destroyed by confession,
recounting molesting naked,
dragging themselves through the ideological trenches at all hours looking
for an adulating fix,
effing hipsters burning for the bohemian heavenly
connection to the transgressive dynamo in the machinery of nihil

[CatsCatsCats]

Cmon, Kara, that's not up to your quality.

[Mr. Nobody]

womanchild

I used that jokingly some months ago on another site and I'm glad to see it in use

Not to say that I created it but-


fuck, I need breakfast

[Phoenix Dark]

She cancelled her book tour

Gotta bunker down and wait for e-backup from Jezebell/ThinkProgress/HuffPo/etc.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

She cancelled her book tour

Gotta bunker down and wait for e-backup from Jezebell/ThinkProgress/HuffPo/etc.

OMG what does Zoe Quinn think?

[Positive Touch]

She cancelled her book tour

Gotta bunker down and wait for e-backup from Jezebell/ThinkProgress/HuffPo/etc.

damn. the fuckery from fan questions coulda been amazing : lol

[I'm a Puppy!]

the sister replied, and it is exactly what you'd expect

http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/lena-dunham-responds-to-sex-abuse-claims

heteronormativity deems certain behaviours harmful, and others "normal"; the state and media are always invested in maintaining that

and

As a queer person: i'm committed to people narrating their own experiences, determining for themselves what has and has not been harmful

So what I take from this:

1) Because the patriarchy
2) I'm sorry apparently you gotta be gay to understand.

 

[nudemacusers]

she has a point, if this were a brother and a sister nobody would think twice of it! certainly not make any inbreeding jokes! no cir!

[Human Snorenado]

Don't worry, TPM is already carrying that water

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/twitter-reactionaries-shout-down-lena-dunham-defenders

People seem to be missing the forest for the trees- I don't really know anyone that's saying a 7 year old being weird about shit is the end of the world, but when it's someone that has an established pattern of being a narcissistic shitburger of epic proportions, and someone that two months ago was saying anyone who looked at leaked naked pics was taking part in sexual assault, publishing stories where you talk about violating the agency of your sister to explore your own sexuality is well, a little bit fucking hypocritical.

[nudemacusers]

also is it odd that i'm not surprised one would be a lesbian if one's prepubescent sexual history is with a woman?

[nudemacusers]

i never read the passage until now.

[Phoenix Dark]

As a queer person: i'm committed to people narrating their own experiences, determining for themselves what has and has not been harmful

But...in this case you weren't given the opportunity to narrate your own experience. Your sister (who is presumably straight) put it in a book.

[Great Rumbler]

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[Human Snorenado]

This is what happens when you don't beat your kids, white people

[Am_I_Anonymous]

This is what happens when you don't beat your kids, white people

[Kara]

Cmon, Kara, that's not up to your quality.

While I'm flattered that I have a quality standard you have been made well aware that I let everyone down in my life.

[Phoenix Dark]

[Brehvolution]

My brother and I used to beat the shit out of each other. Should I worry about assault charges now that I've said it?

[nudemacusers]

sexualize your younger sister brehs

My brother and I used to beat the shit out of each other. Should I worry about assault charges now that I've said it?

were you putting pebbles in his anus?

[Brehvolution]

No, but a crime is a crime no matter what the age.

[I'm a Puppy!]

My brother and I used to beat the shit out of each other. Should I worry about assault charges now that I've said it?

Depends. Are you liberal feminist icon?

[Brehvolution]

No, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

[I'm a Puppy!]

Man's not wrong.

[Human Snorenado]

Basically, I'm just of the opinion that Lena Dunham is so shallow you'd have a hard time drowning a hamster in her if she were a body of water.

[I'm a Puppy!]

Lena Dunham is what happens when you take someone and elevate them and tell them they're incredible when they've done very little work and have very little talent.

[Phoenix Dark]

Lena Dunham is what happens when you take someone and elevate them and tell them they're incredible when they've done very little work and have very little talent.

Like Sandra Fluke.
:trollbron

but seriously tho, some veteran feminists were mad that she got a spotlight

[TakingBackSunday]

I'm all for sibling on sibling diddling, but she took it too far

[Phoenix Dark]

I'm all for sibling on sibling diddling, but she took it too far

Do you have any childhood tales for us, BrandKnew?
 

[TakingBackSunday]

my sisters made me play barbie

I always had to use Ken and allow their barbie avatars to basically date rape ken on every fake date they went on

[Atramental]

Oh man, the girls that I knew growing up were fucking savages with their barbies.

I concur that a lot of the scenarios that they did with them were rapey as fuck. Poor Ken. 

[Kara]

My brother and I used to beat the shit out of each other. Should I worry about assault charges now that I've said it?

Are you remorseless about this? Could one draw a line from this behavior to things in adulthood that are questionable? Why am I asking you inquisitorial questions when all you were doing was setting up a sensible chuckle pop culture reference with a disingenuous question?

[Brehvolution]

Remorseless? IDK

The conditioning of a thousand fights teaches you that predication is greater than strength or speed.

[toku]

my sisters made me play barbie

I always had to use Ken and allow their barbie avatars to basically date rape ken on every fake date they went on

My sister didn't make me play barbie, but she did make me learn to sew so I could help her make barbie clothes. To this day I'm still the best needle threader in my family.

[Kara]

Remorseless? IDK

The conditioning of a thousand fights teaches you that predication is greater than strength or speed.

Maybe it's just because of the last one, but I regret pretty much every fight I've been in, even the early childhood ones.

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Jewish guilt.

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[Trent Dole]

I'd never heard of her until this thread.

[Atramental]

I wasn't really aware of her before The Fappening.

I mean, I kinda knew about the show Girls but not really. 

[Great Rumbler]

I used to take my sister's Barbies and put them in the Barbie Corvette and then crash them into the wall like in those crash test videos.

[I'm a Puppy!]

Lena Dunham is what happens when you take someone and elevate them and tell them they're incredible when they've done very little work and have very little talent.

She has some talent. I mean, her show isn't great, but it isn't bad, and it's often quite funny. She might not be an elite, Bill Federman-esque talent, but she's better than a lot of people who get paid to write.

She needs a lot of direction And somehow has landed an incredible support network.  But her talent is middling at best and certainly nowhere near the voice of a generation status

[Phoenix Dark]

because our generation is best summed up by elitist NY scions.

[bluemax]

Remorseless? IDK

The conditioning of a thousand fights teaches you that predication is greater than strength or speed.

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[Flannel Boy]

We now know how Dunham gets her rocks off.

It seems unlikely that a one-year-old would stuff pebbles into her own vagina. . . . Regardless, people can't really condemn an adult for her actions as a a seven-year-old; they can condemn her actions as a 13-year-old and they can condemn her flippant attitude about it all as an adult.