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Re: How bout that Star War huh?
« Reply #3060 on: February 05, 2018, 09:16:45 PM »
The Han guy is probably going to be way worse than eyebrow queen, the writing will be the real (dying) star of the show though lol 

Alden Ehrenreich is a really good actor! That said, I’m not sold on him as Han. I’d think if he got the job, he showed them something good.
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« Reply #3061 on: February 05, 2018, 09:24:01 PM »
I think at this point I'm going to see it 3-4 times just to piss off Cindi and Tasty, and post an Armond White-esque review of why it's better than Rashomon

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« Reply #3062 on: February 05, 2018, 09:34:16 PM »


Just now realizing they passed on this guy for Alden.  :doge

(Supposedly due to Alden being an actual actor and Anthony only being a decent impressionist of Harrison.)

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« Reply #3063 on: February 05, 2018, 09:37:31 PM »
I think at this point I'm going to see it 3-4 times just to piss off Cindi and Tasty, and post an Armond White-esque review of why it's better than Rashomon

How daaaaaaare

Maybe you and Triumph remember Rashomon very differently.

Hes just trying to trigger me!
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Re: How bout that Star War huh?
« Reply #3064 on: February 05, 2018, 10:27:16 PM »
I see were at the threatening to hate watch stage :lol

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« Reply #3065 on: February 06, 2018, 12:50:39 AM »
This definitely visually looked a lot more like Rogue One than TFA/TLJ.

Han Solo and Eyebrows McGee feel like the worst parts of this movie.
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« Reply #3066 on: February 06, 2018, 05:08:34 AM »
It's going to be the "Cloverfield Paradox" of new star wars movies.
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Re: How bout that Star War huh?
« Reply #3067 on: February 06, 2018, 05:09:38 AM »
It's going to be the "Cloverfield Paradox" of new star wars movies.

It would be very difficult to be worse than Rogue One.
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Re: How bout that Star War huh?
« Reply #3068 on: February 06, 2018, 12:57:24 PM »
I'll just wait for the RLM review to tell me what my opinion should be.
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« Reply #3069 on: February 06, 2018, 03:44:38 PM »
http://www.starwars.com/news/game-of-thrones-creators-david-benioff-and-d-b-weiss-to-write-and-produce-a-new-series-of-star-wars-films

They're making another series besides the previously announced new trilogy

Disney's going full MCU on this and I'm thinking it might be Too Much


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« Reply #3070 on: February 06, 2018, 03:55:03 PM »
Once Disney got it that was always going to be its inevitable destiny.

It is what it is.

It's kind of nice being a Star Trek fan in the sense that the franchise isn't popular enough for them to milk it at the level you can Star Wars.
 


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Re: How bout that Star War huh?
« Reply #3071 on: February 06, 2018, 04:02:17 PM »
http://www.starwars.com/news/game-of-thrones-creators-david-benioff-and-d-b-weiss-to-write-and-produce-a-new-series-of-star-wars-films

They're making another series besides the previously announced new trilogy

Disney's going full MCU on this and I'm thinking it might be Too Much

I'd like to think so but that stuff will take in big bucks for 20 years minimum guaranteed.
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« Reply #3072 on: February 06, 2018, 04:15:20 PM »
Well naturally. We might get some really good movies when/if they move on from the characters and story of the original saga and try something truly new in the universe, though by then it would be Star Wars in name only

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« Reply #3073 on: February 06, 2018, 05:12:25 PM »
http://www.starwars.com/news/game-of-thrones-creators-david-benioff-and-d-b-weiss-to-write-and-produce-a-new-series-of-star-wars-films

They're making another series besides the previously announced new trilogy

Disney's going full MCU on this and I'm thinking it might be Too Much

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« Reply #3074 on: February 06, 2018, 05:25:35 PM »
LOLLL@ giving the keys to D&D. Oh great, yet another opportunity for these guys to run someone else's material into the ground

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Re: How bout that Star War huh?
« Reply #3075 on: February 06, 2018, 05:57:06 PM »
I’m pretty sure rian Johnson’s trilogy isn’t happening
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Re: How bout that Star War huh?
« Reply #3076 on: February 06, 2018, 06:08:10 PM »
I can bet Eyebrow Queen was involved in this someway. Casting her in Solo just opened the D&D floodgates.

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« Reply #3077 on: February 06, 2018, 06:45:11 PM »
I’m pretty sure rian Johnson’s trilogy isn’t happening

Why, because TLJ didn't make enough money? (It did.)
Or because RottenTomatoes didn't have good public feedback (RT: critic 91% vs visitor 48% — hint: it was griefers)

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« Reply #3078 on: February 06, 2018, 06:46:27 PM »
That's not really a defense, there are reports Disney's unhappy. You could defend Justice League in the same way (BO wise.)

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« Reply #3079 on: February 06, 2018, 06:48:36 PM »
That's not really a defense, there are reports Disney's unhappy. You could defend Justice League in the same way (BO wise.)

Snyder's got teflon armor on his career. It's inexplicable. I mean, the movies make money, but they're garbage…

…oh.  :-\

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« Reply #3080 on: February 06, 2018, 09:56:49 PM »
Yeah I’m sure Disney is thrilled over how divisive the movie was  ::)
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« Reply #3081 on: February 06, 2018, 10:06:22 PM »
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that every Star Wars movie going forward is gonna be considered "divisive". There is a clear divide in what people want in the franchise including nostalgia over-drive on the original trilogy. 

I would say the more accurate way to judge will continue to be the box office. And not the box office of Force Awakens which was the first new movie since the prequels.

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« Reply #3082 on: February 07, 2018, 02:28:32 AM »
Just saw the full trailer. The guy playing Han has zero charisma.

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« Reply #3083 on: February 07, 2018, 08:42:34 PM »
http://www.starwars.com/news/game-of-thrones-creators-david-benioff-and-d-b-weiss-to-write-and-produce-a-new-series-of-star-wars-films

They're making another series besides the previously announced new trilogy

Disney's going full MCU on this and I'm thinking it might be Too Much

They'll be working on the off-year movies, if I had to guess.
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« Reply #3084 on: February 10, 2018, 04:31:15 PM »
I saw the movie a while ago, but now I can finally post my thoughts. Hopefully I don't need to put this in spoiler tags.

The minuses:

- Time span: It displeases me to say that this movie happens to share many of the same faults I had with its immediate predecessor (a movie that I think is the most disappointing SW film in the series). One of these issues, is the way the movie handles the passage of time. This movie happens within the course of no more than a single DAY. That is a very, very short amount of time for properly building up tension and character development. I mean, think about it. Rey becomes besties with Kylo Ren after he murdered his dad in front of her, and attempted to do the same to her and Finn (not to mention the countless other people he killed up until that point) in the time it takes to defrost a pound of frozen beef? Luke spent decades in self-imposed exile but suddenly sees the light in the time it takes to binge watching  the first season of House of Cards? Sorry, but no.

- World building: Another incredibly disappointing area in this movie. One of the many things that annoys me about both TFA and TLJ is that the writers/directors have access to a whole universe (both literally and figuratively) where they can let their imaginations run wild, but they never seem to take advantage of that. In TLJ, we pretty much have a grand total of 3 major locales that the audience is exposed to: Luke's island, Canto Bight, and Crate. While I really like Luke's island in that it looks like a pretty place, there's not much going on there. Crate was also really cool looking, but aside from the red salt under the top layer of uh...white salt, it looks pretty much just like Hoth, except probably warmer. And then we have Canto Bight. Good lord, what a wasted opportunity. I'm not against the idea of having an alien casino, but we didn't get that. We got a casino with aliens. By that I mean the casino itself doesn't seem visually interesting or distinct compared to a typical casino from Earth. I mean, you could just film the whole scene at Luxor's with a couple of people in walrus suits and call it a day. I mean really, THIS is the best you can do with all the stuff that's available to you?

- Bad writing: This includes both dialogue and plot. Where the hell did the bombadiers come from? Clearly they weren't breaking the sound barrier any time soon, but they show up out of nowhere, taking the First Order by surprise, even. Why didn't Leia command the rest of Poe's squadron to fall back instead of just giving up after Poe ignored her? How the hell are Finn and Holdo supposed to be considered "traitors" when they were just planning on getting off the cruiser? Sure, you could make the claim that they were cowards, but traitors? Sounds like Rian just wanted to make a line sound cooler, or more melodramatic. Finn was about to bail on the rebels to save Rey but then decides that he's going to infiltrate Snoke's ship once he learns about the weakness? And what the hell was their plan for after they went on the ship? How were they going to come back to the cruiser?

Then we have the scene where DJ betrays Finn and Rose. Phasma comes out and presents him with the payment and ship for betraying the rebels. Not so surprising, right? Except that AFTER that happens, some First Order grunt appears and says they JUST confirmed that DJ was telling the truth. In other words, Phasma agreed to reward DJ without even making sure he was telling the truth?! I realize why this was done, because Rian cared more about having Finn say an important line than he did for whether the scene would make any sense.

And of course, we have Finn and Rose. This might be just a personal preference, but there was no need for a romantic relationship to develop. It seriously came out of the blue and served no purpose.

Plotwise, probably the thing that bugged me the most in this movie was Snoke's death. Given how they built him up to be such a menacing, powerful threat, it was a massive shame to see him go out like a chump. I mean, what the hell was the point of introducing him to begin with, if you're going to take him out like a sap. I'm not even against the idea of having Snoke die in this particular movie, but he should have made it way more satisfying. It's possible Rian wanted to make that battle more epic, but he blew the special fx budget on the fat alien with twelve boobs.

Lastly, during the final confrontation between Luke and Kylo, Poe said something to the effect that Luke was doing this "for a reason", and he was trying to figure out why. He then assumes it's because he's trying to stall and give the rebels a chance to escape. Okay...why the hell is this even a question? Couldn't Luke just mention that to say, ANYONE of the dozens of people in the base before he stepped out so they don't waste time having to figure out what he's trying to do like as if the goddamned Riddler?

Marvel humor: Oh yeah, you knew this was coming. I think I would add two points to this film if they just got rid of this shit and kept everything else. The humor was so damned out of place and just unnecessary. From the very first moment we see any dialogue on-screen, we have that cringeworthy scene between Poe and Hux. Ah, using the ole' "going to pretend I can't hear you on the intercom" gag, eh? Totally originally. And topping it off with a "yo mama" joke? Well, that is certainly a timeless quip that didn't go out of style when I was in middle school! And who can forget how Hux repeated Kylo's commands  to other soldiers during the battle on Crate, resulting in a most amusing annoyed look on Kylo's face! Ho ho! Sure, the First Order is supposed to be an incredibly fearsome and brutal regime that's been involved in multiple acts of genocide, but isn't it nice that we have lovable goofballs like Hux to lighten the mood.


Okay, that's enough of me being a Negative Nicky. Let's talk about the pluses:

+ Way more action: One thing the movie does better than TFA is that there is definitely a lot more action and excitement. If I could use one word to describe TFA, it would be boring. Sure, there were light sabers humming, blasters pew pewing, and planets blowing up, but somehow it didn't really maintain my interest. It just felt so dull and inconsequential. TLJ doesn't feel like that. It feels exciting and like there are actual stakes this time around.

+ Music: Not much to say here except that Williams still has it (well, at least for some tracks). If anyone can find me the theme for when Finn and Rose are captured and being marched in for their execution, I'll be your best friend.

+ Set pieces/crucial scenes: As I've already mentioned, I'm not a big fan of Rian's writing. However, I do think that he does seem to have an eye for what makes for a visually good scene. The fight between Rey/Kylo and Snoke's Praetorian Guard was great. With the set as a whole just looking so visually cool with the red drapery on the black, shining floor, and then the drapes burning up to make the room look like raining fire. There's also the scene where Holdo smashes the crusier into Snoke's ship. Then there's Luke facing the At-Ats with the sunset in the background, which I think will be a visual that will live on long after this movie. And then we have in one sense, probably my favorite moment in the film. It's an incredibly short scene, but I just love it so much. It's when Luke stops in front of CPO, and just winks and walks away. It's such a simple, quick scene, but somehow it was also perfect. I like Star Wars, but I don't know if I'd call myself a "fan", but holy shit, that scene hit me in the goddamned gut like nothing else. Rian didn't ruin the moment with some dumbass, tryhard line or joke, and I'm thankful he was able to resist the urge.


Overall, I enjoyed the movie. Quite a bit more than TFA, but I still think it's weak compared to the rest. Look, say what you want about Lucas (and Yoda knows I have), but while the man may be a terrible writer, obsessed with CG, and bad at giving direction to actors, he was also really good at world building, creating interesting locales and aliens, and exciting action sequences. The prequels may be bad, but I feel they're at least very entertaining. Whereas the new trilogy seems to not have anything particularly offensive or lol worthy quotes (minus the previously mentioned cringey Marvel humor), but very little worth remembering. They're competent, but unimpressive films. While TLJ impressed me in many areas, it also made me a bit more wary on what to expect from the final installment. Overall:  7/10

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Re: How bout that Star War huh?
« Reply #3085 on: February 10, 2018, 05:38:58 PM »
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Then there's Luke facing the At-Ats with the sunset in the background, which I think will be a visual that will live on long after this movie.

Possibly my favorite SW shot of all time. Something about it feels like I've seen it in a half-remembered dream.

Agreed with pretty much all your points too btw.

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« Reply #3086 on: February 21, 2018, 01:22:40 PM »
STAR WARS REBELS IS BACK, I HAVEN'T WATCHED YET, DON'T SPOIL :rejoice

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« Reply #3087 on: February 21, 2018, 01:25:45 PM »
STAR WARS REBELS IS BACK, I HAVEN'T WATCHED YET, DON'T SPOIL :rejoice

Darth Jar Jar is behind everything.

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« Reply #3088 on: February 21, 2018, 01:33:07 PM »
I WILL FIND YOU AND CHOKE YOU OUT :rejoice

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Re: How bout that Star War huh?
« Reply #3089 on: February 21, 2018, 01:37:30 PM »
STAR WARS REBELS IS BACK, I HAVEN'T WATCHED YET, DON'T SPOIL :rejoice

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« Reply #3090 on: February 21, 2018, 02:20:26 PM »
I love the Finn and Rose romance.  I think it's about time that Hollywood stood up and put a believable and authentic interracial and interstellar relationship front and center in a big budget movie.

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« Reply #3091 on: February 21, 2018, 02:26:26 PM »
I'll even take the retrospectively incestuous relationship of the OT instead.

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« Reply #3092 on: February 22, 2018, 04:21:13 PM »
Found that thing between Rey and Finn in TFA quite cute and don't really understand why they had to undo it in TLJ and force some other girl on him. It's pointless and rushed, pretty much like most of Finns plot line in this movie.

Though I suppose they had to make it a love triangle to force another parallel to the original trilogy. I was hoping that they would lay it off with the nostalgia a bit in TLJ, but that didn't really happen. Still a decent movie tho.

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« Reply #3093 on: February 23, 2018, 09:26:43 AM »
I JUST WATCHED REBELS
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« Reply #3094 on: February 25, 2018, 02:16:38 PM »
I was just thinking about the Rose subplot in TLJ and I think I'm more annoyed by it now than when I saw the film.

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« Reply #3095 on: February 26, 2018, 12:59:47 PM »
Is it wrong to think that I might have been more tolerant of Rose if she was hotter?
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« Reply #3096 on: February 26, 2018, 01:23:53 PM »
Is it wrong to think that I might have been more tolerant about Rose if she was hotter?

LOL, keep thinking that too  :esports

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« Reply #3097 on: February 26, 2018, 02:39:06 PM »
I would have liked it less because I would have kept thinking "How can you leave Rey for this WHORE?!" but since she's kinda homely, it's just like "ah well, I guess she does have a nice personality".
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Re: How bout that Star War huh?
« Reply #3098 on: February 26, 2018, 02:44:58 PM »
Yeah, you know Rose totally watches anime.

Rey would just want to talk about pilates. :expert
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« Reply #3099 on: February 27, 2018, 01:47:39 AM »
rose should have been played by that trashy slut from the florida project  :noah
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« Reply #3100 on: February 27, 2018, 02:01:44 AM »
Two more eps of rebels out, going to watch later :rejoice

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« Reply #3101 on: February 27, 2018, 10:31:00 AM »
Rebels just introduced an insanely OP site to the lore, wondering how they will make everyone forget it exists :doge
HOLY FUCK THIS EPISODE :lawd
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« Reply #3102 on: February 27, 2018, 11:20:24 AM »
Series finale? Hasn't that only been on like 2-3 years? Are they replacing it with something?

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« Reply #3103 on: February 27, 2018, 11:22:38 AM »
iTunes prices on REBELS are stupid, as I've previously whined. Seasons came out overpriced, then split-seaons which are still overpriced, and also have movie entries which are separate purchases but are meant to be viewed as part of the season… Hey, thanks, Disney — fuck you, too.

So rather than try and keep up with it, I went back and bought the entire CLONE WARS TV show series on blu-ray. I know what I'll be watching when I get back to Japan!

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« Reply #3104 on: February 27, 2018, 11:15:18 PM »
Not sure if there will be a follow up (maybe some of these TV series being bandied around) but yup, series finale

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« Reply #3105 on: February 28, 2018, 02:52:32 AM »
Guess I’ll continue with the show. Stopped at the beginning of the third season, because I hated Kanan’s and particularly Ezra’s new looks, and everyone was all serious and emo. I did like that they brought Thrawn into the fold, though I think he’s a bit wasted on a show like Rebels.

Did you like the finale?

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« Reply #3106 on: February 28, 2018, 02:59:31 AM »
Finale is next week, but season 4 has been fire man (season 3 picks up quite a bit too). I agree Thrawn is wasted here, I hope they set him up for a post snoke role somehow, he's one of the most compelling villains in SW even this nerfed edition

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« Reply #3107 on: March 02, 2018, 11:55:44 AM »
I've watched random episodes of Rebels over the years, but watched the last few in preparation for the finale. Didn't feel lost or confused at all.

Also, could Disney and Amazon stop with their petty feud? I'd like to preorder The Last Jedi on Blu-ray kthxbye.
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« Reply #3108 on: March 02, 2018, 01:57:28 PM »
I might give Rebels a shot since Xfinity has the whole series for streaming. I watched Clone Wars a handful of times but wasn't super engaged, although I didn't dislike it either. Read about some of the later stuff sounds like hilariously absurd fanfiction. Does Rebels have that kind of shit?

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« Reply #3109 on: March 02, 2018, 04:17:46 PM »
I might give Rebels a shot since Xfinity has the whole series for streaming. I watched Clone Wars a handful of times but wasn't super engaged, although I didn't dislike it either. Read about some of the later stuff sounds like hilariously absurd fanfiction. Does Rebels have that kind of shit?

They brought back Darth Maul and gave him robot legs, so kinda.

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« Reply #3110 on: March 02, 2018, 04:21:33 PM »
Oh I thought robot leg Darth Maul was in Clone Wars

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« Reply #3111 on: March 02, 2018, 04:31:06 PM »
Oh I thought robot leg Darth Maul was in Clone Wars

I don't know if that's in REBELS, but it's from CLONE WARS.

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« Reply #3112 on: March 02, 2018, 04:34:09 PM »

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« Reply #3113 on: March 02, 2018, 04:59:29 PM »
OT Obi-Wan vs Darth Maul?  :jeanluc

edit: wait, he was dead.
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fake edit2: and he talks now?
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« Reply #3114 on: March 02, 2018, 05:19:59 PM »
OT Obi-Wan vs Darth Maul?  :jeanluc

edit: wait, he was dead.
fake edit: wait, didn't he come back as a spider.
fake edit2: and he talks now?
fake edit3:  :hhh

Maul came back in TCW, first with spider legs, then with inverted legs before getting normal robot legs. He took over Mandalore but got sheeved and went on the run trying to find a way to defeat Palpatine leading him to a Sith temple with an ancient superweapon in Rebels.

His duel with Obi-Wan in Rebels is one of the best duels in the franchise.

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« Reply #3115 on: March 02, 2018, 05:27:42 PM »
I don't even know who Mandalore is (and don't want to know).

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« Reply #3116 on: March 02, 2018, 06:52:12 PM »
Omg the baby wookie in the first ep  :dead :dead :dead :dead :dead :dead

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« Reply #3117 on: March 02, 2018, 07:09:25 PM »
I don't even know who Mandalore is (and don't want to know).


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« Reply #3119 on: March 04, 2018, 12:15:14 PM »
lol