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Re: No justice for Eric Garner either
« Reply #60 on: December 04, 2014, 03:14:35 PM »
Buy the albums of wack trans/homophobes because of tweets brehs



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Re: No justice for Eric Garner either
« Reply #61 on: December 04, 2014, 03:15:23 PM »
You got the wrong one breh...go find the shit she tweeted to iggy

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Re: No justice for Eric Garner either
« Reply #62 on: December 04, 2014, 03:17:51 PM »
:lol @ igloo australia. I love when people get so petty they abandon any pretense of being clever.

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Re: No justice for Eric Garner either
« Reply #63 on: December 04, 2014, 03:19:50 PM »
Connecting police officers killing black folks to your beef with white rappers and then connecting it all to Bill Cosby is a pretty good trick.
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Re: No justice for Eric Garner either
« Reply #64 on: December 04, 2014, 03:20:58 PM »
Connecting police officers killing black folks to your beef with white rappers and then connecting it all to Bill Cosby is a pretty good trick.

Gotta go deeper into the head son



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Re: No justice for Eric Garner either
« Reply #65 on: December 04, 2014, 03:41:20 PM »
nice to see us all in agreement

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Re: No justice for Eric Garner either
« Reply #68 on: December 04, 2014, 04:18:23 PM »
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So you don’t think this is a race thing?

No, it’s not a race thing. It’s a Ray Kelly thing. That man singlehandedly ruined this department. When I came up as a rookie, you were assigned an older cop who had been around and knew what they were doing. We were taught that you catch more flies with honey. Basically, if you let the small things go — like the guy selling loosies or weed or whatever on the corner — then when the big shit happens, like homicide or burglary, those are the same guys who will tell you all about it. If they hate you, they won’t tell you shit.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/12/qa-an-nypd-officers-real-talk-on-garner-case.html

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Re: No justice for Eric Garner either
« Reply #69 on: December 04, 2014, 05:40:00 PM »
Well, it turns out that a grand jury DID come through with an indictment of someone in the Garner case.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/03/ramsey-orta-indictment-eric-garner_n_6264746.html
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Re: No justice for Eric Garner either
« Reply #70 on: December 04, 2014, 07:28:08 PM »
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So you don’t think this is a race thing?

No, it’s not a race thing. It’s a Ray Kelly thing. That man singlehandedly ruined this department. When I came up as a rookie, you were assigned an older cop who had been around and knew what they were doing. We were taught that you catch more flies with honey. Basically, if you let the small things go — like the guy selling loosies or weed or whatever on the corner — then when the big shit happens, like homicide or burglary, those are the same guys who will tell you all about it. If they hate you, they won’t tell you shit.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/12/qa-an-nypd-officers-real-talk-on-garner-case.html

Sound familiar?

There's something to the bolded part, but to say "it isn't a race thing" is pretty disingenuous. His argument is that cops were trained to profile bad guys better pre-Kelly and that Kelly's tenure is responsible for the degraded relationship between the police and the public, but decades of statistics show that cops disproportionately arrest people of color. He also says "I only know New York," which is a convenient way of avoiding addressing the nationwide lack of responsibility for these incidents.
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Re: No justice for Eric Garner either
« Reply #71 on: December 04, 2014, 07:40:01 PM »
Well, it turns out that a grand jury DID come through with an indictment of someone in the Garner case.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/03/ramsey-orta-indictment-eric-garner_n_6264746.html

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Re: No justice for Eric Garner either
« Reply #72 on: December 04, 2014, 08:59:02 PM »
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So you don’t think this is a race thing?

No, it’s not a race thing. It’s a Ray Kelly thing. That man singlehandedly ruined this department. When I came up as a rookie, you were assigned an older cop who had been around and knew what they were doing. We were taught that you catch more flies with honey. Basically, if you let the small things go — like the guy selling loosies or weed or whatever on the corner — then when the big shit happens, like homicide or burglary, those are the same guys who will tell you all about it. If they hate you, they won’t tell you shit.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/12/qa-an-nypd-officers-real-talk-on-garner-case.html

Sound familiar?
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Re: No justice for Eric Garner either
« Reply #73 on: December 04, 2014, 09:21:23 PM »
ACAB
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Re: No justice for Eric Garner either
« Reply #74 on: December 04, 2014, 09:26:24 PM »
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Re: No justice for Eric Garner either
« Reply #75 on: December 05, 2014, 04:50:59 PM »
Michael Savage ("this was murder" "he was selling cigarettes to people for a dollar! that's his big crime!") vs. Mark Levin/Sean Hannity/Rudy Giuliani ("why is anyone talking about racism?!?", "what does this case have to do with race?!?" "there are black cops!" "a black cop oversaw the justified use of force!" "Eric Holder is just using this to undermine our country!" "this brute could have been hiding a nuclear bomb in his anus that would have leveled downtown Manhattan, but a first responder was there, America should thank god for this hero and law enforcement") over this has been the secret fun of the week.


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Re: No justice for Eric Garner either
« Reply #76 on: December 05, 2014, 05:02:02 PM »
i appreciate that Savage is on the right side of this, but he doesn't like so many others (jaydubya) need to remind us that they were on the side of Wilson in Ferguson  :pacspit

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alright Savage just told a caller Rodney King was different cause he resisted, GTFOH :pacspit :pacspit :pacspit
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Re: No justice for Eric Garner either
« Reply #77 on: December 05, 2014, 05:13:30 PM »
Gotta establish your bonafides before you betray the tribe.

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Re: No justice for Eric Garner either
« Reply #78 on: December 05, 2014, 05:18:15 PM »

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Re: No justice for Eric Garner either
« Reply #79 on: December 06, 2014, 04:07:33 AM »
Not sure about the right thread to link this on.  I'm drunk as fuck too, bear with me. :fbm

I saw the roads congested around Midtown coming into a job, looks like the congestion on the highway was because of them too. One of my Facebook friends protesting made mention a of it prior to me seeing it myself (also made mention of the area not having a lot of black people lol). Even if it delayed my commute:

http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2014/12/police_brutality_protesters_shut_down_195_in_both_directions.php

:rejoice my city

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Re: No justice for Eric Garner either
« Reply #80 on: December 06, 2014, 08:54:50 AM »
i appreciate that Savage is on the right side of this, but he doesn't like so many others (jaydubya) need to remind us that they were on the side of Wilson in Ferguson  :pacspit

Meh.  In both cases, the evidence is plain.

It is only reasonable to side with an officer shooting a perpetrator of robbery and assault in self-defense.

It is only reasonable to side against an officer strangling someone to death for no reason other than to enforce the trivial "crime" of buying cigarettes in New Jersey and selling them in New York.


not talking about evidence, just qualifiers that use black deaths as examples.  :pacspit

you should trust me because rodney?  dat mofuhggah did it.  you should trust me because brown? dat muhfuggah did it.  that's why im an authority on justice!   FOH

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Re: No justice for Eric Garner either
« Reply #82 on: December 20, 2014, 07:04:43 PM »
That scene is the best scene in the wire.
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Re: No justice for Eric Garner either
« Reply #83 on: December 20, 2014, 07:08:02 PM »
the link pd posted is also missing some good lines



Mother FUCKER. Fucking embedding disabled. ::)
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Re: No justice for Eric Garner either
« Reply #84 on: December 20, 2014, 09:00:18 PM »
Hopefully this won't start a trend.

2015 is gonna be one hell of a year

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Re: No justice for Eric Garner either
« Reply #85 on: December 20, 2014, 09:07:43 PM »
I would be shocked if it doesn't happen more often.
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Re: No justice for Eric Garner either
« Reply #86 on: December 20, 2014, 09:31:48 PM »
From the Sergeants Benevolent Association's Twitter:

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The blood of 2 executed police officers is on the hands of Mayor de Blasio. May God bless their families and may they rest in peace.

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Re: No justice for Eric Garner either
« Reply #87 on: December 20, 2014, 10:12:37 PM »
So when I first read this, I read it as the police shot his girlfriend.  It was very easy to think that he wasn't just a crazy person in that situation.  Far too easy which is kind of indicative of how bad the NYPD's reputation is right now. 

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Re: No justice for Eric Garner either
« Reply #88 on: December 20, 2014, 10:50:39 PM »
yeah the first report linked was poorly worded
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Re: No justice for Eric Garner either
« Reply #89 on: December 21, 2014, 09:50:41 AM »
http://gothamist.com/2014/12/21/cops_shot_nyc_nypd.php#photo-1

jesus.  i can't imagine this makes it any better

black nyc twitter is saying stuff like "pull your pants up and don't even jaywalk" "whatever you do, don't scratch your stomach"

a lone nut (who shot his girlfriend in baltimore before coming north) just made everything immeasurably worse for everyone.
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Re: No justice for Eric Garner either
« Reply #90 on: December 21, 2014, 10:43:47 AM »
Just like with the torture report, it's not the act itself that's the problem, it's talking about the problem. :beli
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Re: No justice for Eric Garner either
« Reply #91 on: December 23, 2014, 08:17:11 PM »
Also everyone on the right cheering on strong public sector unions all of a sudden...
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Re: No justice for Eric Garner either
« Reply #92 on: December 23, 2014, 08:17:43 PM »
rofl that video
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Re: No justice for Eric Garner either
« Reply #93 on: December 23, 2014, 08:22:22 PM »
It's crazy that no one has asked Guiliani to list one thing Obama, Sharpton, Holder, or De Blasio have said to suggest killing cops is cool.

De Blasio is rising up my "favorite cacs" list. I had read his term started rather rocky but I fully support his handling of this situation, especially his comments about raising a black child. Anyone who took that as racism or the race card can fuck off.
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Re: No justice for Eric Garner either
« Reply #94 on: December 23, 2014, 08:25:30 PM »
Do police really think that acting that petty towards the mayor of the city they're supposed to protect will help their case/cause?
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Re: No justice for Eric Garner either
« Reply #95 on: December 23, 2014, 08:26:32 PM »
Ya that looked pretty childish 

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Re: No justice for Eric Garner either
« Reply #96 on: December 23, 2014, 08:31:05 PM »
It's crazy that no one has asked Guiliani to list one thing Obama, Sharpton, Holder, or De Blasio have said to suggest killing cops is cool.

De Blasio is rising up my "favorite cacs" list. I had read his term started rather rocky but I fully support his handling of this situation, especially his comments about raising a black child. Anyone who took that as racism or the race card can fuck off.

In our media? Fuck outta here. These guys are useless, of course it's not crazy.
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Re: No justice for Eric Garner either
« Reply #97 on: December 23, 2014, 08:36:30 PM »
If the NYPD runs a slow-motion coup against the freely elected mayor of New York, then it is running a slow-motion coup against all the people of New York. There is no exemption from this fundamental truth about the way this country and its system is supposed to work. The military -- and its civilian analogues in Langley and in the precinct houses -- always is subordinate to the civil power which, no matter how much it may chafe them, means that they always are subordinate to politicians. If we render our torturers superior to the political institutions of the government, and if we render the police superior to the civil power of elected officials, then we essentially have empowered independent standing armies to conduct our wars and enforce our laws, and self-government descends into bloody farce.

But, alas, in the past few weeks, we have shown ourselves to be relatively at peace with that very thing -- as long as the torture is done in the prisons overseas and the judicial killing is done in the streets of the ghetto, and as long as our fear of some omnipotent Other is what drives our politics. In turn, and in its mind, the country has now turned peaceful mass protest into some sort of violent revolution, and it has converted the murderous rage of a criminal lunatic into the ultimate expression of the cries for justice that have been heard in the last month in Ferguson, and Cleveland, and on Staten Island. It is a deeply noxious perversion of reality, and it has been working like a charm. Very soon, the names of Michael Brown and Tamir Rice and Eric Garner will be as unknown to our national dialogue again as are the names of those faceless, bartered souls who languished in shackles in Poland and in Thailand. The last thing to go to the waterboard is the tattered remnant of what we thought ourselves to be.
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