MGSV thread of there's a game coming out.

[thisismyusername]

[VomKriege]

Did two of the sideops in GZ. The double whack job on Marines is pretty good but on a second playthrough, scripts became apparent. I wanted to kill the first guy at a specific zone, but Kaz kept rolling every couple minutes or so the same line about how I should check the briefing. You have to advance at a certain point to get the guy starting his patrol, meh. I also got busted after shooting said guy, and the game respawned me at an arbitrary point with no alarm but with the target registered down. Checkpointing is a bit wonky. The turkey shoot mission sucked ass without no reticule display and no possibility to get the way too powerful scope off the rifle. Plus the display of vanity by Hideo here is a bit sad.

[recursivelyenumerable]

The Blaustein interview is interesting. It's refreshing to have someone be so frank about stuff that usually stay within the companies. Seems pretty down to earth as well. I think the interview was a little bit too freeform, it could have been conducted with much more focus but heh. I don't feel it gave so much on Kojima though, Blaustein have only met him a few times, but more about a possibly toxic entourage and the reality of company politics and dubbing in general.

Otherwise that model swap is so great. It really drives home how ridiculous the poses and directing are.

That is almost exactly what I do every time it rains though

[thisismyusername]

That infamous Shower scene...

Ocelot watches despite not being amused she stops him from bucketing me.

Kojima...

[tiesto]

So anyways, I finally beat that pesky Mission 18. The first time I "beat" it, I escorted all the kids to the chopper, and then jumped in and left the mission... but it didn't count because I didn't kill/extract the prisoner on the plantation! So that pissed me off big time... I'm not sure whether or not I could have just jumped back into the mission and just killed the guy and left the hot zone and it would have counted as a completion. So I went and killed the prisoner (wasn't able to extract because Quiet got to him first), and then did a silly little trick at the mine:

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I tranqued all the kids and called in a few vehicle drops. Then I put the kids into the vehicles and fultoned them away... Got credit for saving the kids and got the "rescued all the kids without being spotted" objective completed.

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As per classic Kojima, I like how there's a 'proper' way to play and a way to cheese through the missions, especially since this isn't the first time I got oh so close but fucked up one way or another.

I also need to play through GZ. Is it too late to import my save into TPP?

[Sho Nuff]

Haha holy shit that's an awesome way to beat that level

[thisismyusername]

Late game/post-game spoilers.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/metalgearsolid/comments/3kzv9t/mgsv_spoilers_no_clue_if_this_was_posted_before/[/url]

I dunno if this'll be up in 24 hours since it links to 4chans image servers, but:

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The psychic kid is controlled by various characters. Look at the details on him.

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And yes, I totally intended to double spoiler that.

I also need to play through GZ. Is it too late to import my save into TPP?

No, but given where you are you'll already have one of the perks from Ground Zeroes available.

[fistfulofmetal]

Anyone on PC suddenly having performance issues? I loaded it up today and the game is hitching and I'm getting 40/45fps. Previously I was getting steady 60fps. Doesn't matter what settings I change the graphics to, it doesn't change.

[chronovore]

Haha holy shit that's an awesome way to beat that level

Isn't he a DJ? I'm pretty sure DJs are accustomed to providing relaxing pharma to young people. 

[OnlyRegret]

Late game/post-game spoilers.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/metalgearsolid/comments/3kzv9t/mgsv_spoilers_no_clue_if_this_was_posted_before/[/url]

I dunno if this'll be up in 24 hours since it links to 4chans image servers, but:

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The psychic kid is controlled by various characters. Look at the details on him.

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And yes, I totally intended to double spoiler that.

I also need to play through GZ. Is it too late to import my save into TPP?

No, but given where you are you'll already have one of the perks from Ground Zeroes available.

Doesn't the game basically spell that out in the cassettes though.
Like literally.

[thisismyusername]

Not that I'm aware of.

[fistfulofmetal]

The latest patch has completely fucked the performance for me. And from what I can read on the Steam forums it's happening to others. It's completely unplayable now. Incompetent fucks.

[VomKriege]

FOX... PATCH ?

[nachobro]

PATCHDIE

[helios]

Such a lust for patches? WHOOOOOOOOOO?

[thisismyusername]

Such a lust for patches? WHOOOOOOOOOO?

I love this meme.

I finally finished the game. I didn't mind the twist, but the whole thing was kinda stupid. You put in all that work because...?

[Sho Nuff]

 OK, so I am in the mid 30s in terms of main mission progress. Unfortunately, I've gotten into the subsistence and extreme levels, and I really don't want to play these. Am I going to have to slog through all of this stuff in order to get to the end?

[thisismyusername]

OK, so I am in the mid 30s in terms of main mission progress. Unfortunately, I've gotten into the subsistence and extreme levels, and I really don't want to play these. Am I going to have to slog through all of this stuff in order to get to the end?

No. But you will have to slog through the side-ops instead. 

There's only 2-3 story missions left anyway. Do the side ops until those pop (and you might need to listen to cassettes for the ending) and then forget it.

Also MGO continues to look like ass everytime I see it. Why Kojima Productions continues to spend time trying to shoe-horn multiplayer into the series... I'll never know.

[Rufus]

I finally finished the game. I didn't mind the twist, but the whole thing was kinda stupid. You put in all that work because...?

Build the legend!

[Sho Nuff]

OK, so I am in the mid 30s in terms of main mission progress. Unfortunately, I've gotten into the subsistence and extreme levels, and I really don't want to play these. Am I going to have to slog through all of this stuff in order to get to the end?

No. But you will have to slog through the side-ops instead. 

There's only 2-3 story missions left anyway. Do the side ops until those pop (and you might need to listen to cassettes for the ending) and then forget it.

Also MGO continues to look like ass everytime I see it. Why Kojima Productions continues to spend time trying to shoe-horn multiplayer into the series... I'll never know.

Ok cool, so doing a certain number of side Ops will override the requirement to do those missions? That's weird.

[bork]

I did Mission 12 last night.  First mission in Africa.

Already losing interest in this game.   

[AdmiralViscen]

OK, so I am in the mid 30s in terms of main mission progress. Unfortunately, I've gotten into the subsistence and extreme levels, and I really don't want to play these. Am I going to have to slog through all of this stuff in order to get to the end?

No. But you will have to slog through the side-ops instead. 

There's only 2-3 story missions left anyway. Do the side ops until those pop (and you might need to listen to cassettes for the ending) and then forget it.

Also MGO continues to look like ass everytime I see it. Why Kojima Productions continues to spend time trying to shoe-horn multiplayer into the series... I'll never know.

I just did Mission 30 and I only have like 6 or 7 side ops that aren't done.

Did I fuck myself out of using them for grinding or do more appear soon?

I can skip all the retread missions and just wait for unique ones to appear without missing out on anything?

[thisismyusername]

Yes, you can skip the retreads if you do the side-ops.

That said I did all 133 ops before the final story missions, so I had to do the retreads.

[Rahxephon91]

Oh so if you've been doing the side ops as they pop up you won't be able to do them to trigger the final missions and have to do extreme mode missions?

That's complete bullshit.

Honestly, outside of the fantastic gameplay everything about this game is kind of shitty.

[VomKriege]

Aren't side ops permanently there ? They just cycle if too close in a zone. I'm pretty certain with everyone I read that the Extreme missions are not requisite to unlock the final one. Most logical if you grinded all side ops is that the game would flag those as done.

[Purrp Skirrp]

Yo guys. How do you view mission tasks while undertaking the mission? Some of the tasks become question marks once you start the mission, but are displayed beforehand

[nachobro]

I wish I knew. That shit is distinguished mentally-challenged

[Purrp Skirrp]

I was kind of hoping I'm the distinguished mentally-challenged one and overlooking a menu

That's bonkers if that's really how it is.

[thisismyusername]

Aren't side ops permanently there ? They just cycle if too close in a zone. I'm pretty certain with everyone I read that the Extreme missions are not requisite to unlock the final one. Most logical if you grinded all side ops is that the game would flag those as done.

Yes. Exactly. You can probably do the ones you've already done and are available to replay, but I didn't do that because I wanted to do missions I haven't done.

[AdmiralViscen]

I only have one or two replayable Side Ops. Does the medical platform shooting range count towards unlocking the last mission?

I just finished mission 32 and the next two are retreads. Is now the time to blitz Side Ops then? Or should I wait for even shittier retreads to present themselves?

[thisismyusername]

You only need like 2-3 side-ops to unlock the next story bit. I don't think the Target Practices count but try it and see? IDK, like I said: I did all the side-ops available to me before I even progressed the story so I had to do the retreads in a fashion because those were the only "new" things for me.

[OnlyRegret]

Not that I'm aware of.

Film canister mission, cassettes from that.

[VomKriege]

You only need like 2-3 side-ops to unlock the next story bit. I don't think the Target Practices count but try it and see? IDK, like I said: I did all the side-ops available to me before I even progressed the story so I had to do the retreads in a fashion because those were the only "new" things for me.

Aren't the "trigger" missions marked in yellow ?
(How come I know so much of the game without having it  )

[archie4208]

 

[thisismyusername]

Not that I'm aware of.

Film canister mission, cassettes from that.

Yeah, the intel one explains it. But still, if you don't read that tape ( ) you probably won't notice that mask and stuff unless you replay. I didn't notice the Skullface mask or Eli's control of him.

You only need like 2-3 side-ops to unlock the next story bit. I don't think the Target Practices count but try it and see? IDK, like I said: I did all the side-ops available to me before I even progressed the story so I had to do the retreads in a fashion because those were the only "new" things for me.

Aren't the "trigger" missions marked in yellow ?
(How come I know so much of the game without having it  )

Yeah, and the retreads have []'s for the limitation in that mission. The main story ones don't have those brackets/limitations.

[Mr. Gundam]

Did the supply drop trick on Quiet the other night. Heh.

I love the freedom you're allowed in completing objectives. I try to be stealthy for a while, but then normally say screw it with a shotgun, rocket launcher and helicopter support once I've my way inside the objective zone. 

[toku]

[nachobro]

Jesus fuck the caravan mission in Africa is a pain in the dick. Spent almost an hour just fucking around with it trying to get perfect stealth with no luck. Then I just said fuck it, rolled out with my robot, shot everything to pieces, and fultoned the truck. Got an S rank 

[thisismyusername]

Jesus fuck the caravan mission in Africa is a pain in the dick. Spent almost an hour just fucking around with it trying to get perfect stealth with no luck. Then I just said fuck it, rolled out with my robot, shot everything to pieces, and fultoned the truck. Got an S rank 

You mean 16? I'm sure it's possible to perfect stealth, but well... the scripted event kinda makes that not a stealth event. :p

[nachobro]

Yeah, 16. I did manage to actually Fulton the truck without being caught once but then one of those fuckers caught me randomly as I was hopping on to D-Horse to get away.

[tiesto]

Up to mission 28, made some real nice progress on Sunday. Storyline seems to be picking up slightly, and game is still a lot of fun. Not looking forward to doing the "extreme" missions, but I'm gonna try to beat all of the missions. No way in hell will I be able to S-rank or get the achievement for completing all the optional objectives, though.

[thisismyusername]

Up to mission 28, made some real nice progress on Sunday. Storyline seems to be picking up slightly, and game is still a lot of fun. Not looking forward to doing the "extreme" missions, but I'm gonna try to beat all of the missions. No way in hell will I be able to S-rank or get the achievement for completing all the optional objectives, though.

Once you develop the Stealth Camo and stick to one map, it's pretty easy to get all the side objectives. Now S-ranks? That's easy to abuse. Just go Super Sanic and finish the missions, alerts be damned.

[Sho Nuff]

Just finished Mission 43.

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My poor glorious Diamond Mans. Can you imagine David Hayter delivering those lines instead?

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[Rahxephon91]

Kind of agree with this.

The backlash against 5 is going to be harsh.

[mormapope]

It definitely has major issues and as a final product it feels sorta fucked.

Pros:
Enemy AI is excellent and variable, super AI or AI that can't be played around with tanks a stealth game.

Tranqs have been nerfed significantly. I love MGS3, but the tranq pistol ruins all difficulty when it comes to sneaking around. In MGS V, unless you constantly request supply drops, you can't skate by via tranqing nearly as much as previous MGS games.

Stealth is perfect for an open environment. The options you're allowed to turn off are fair and makes the game more challenging. Enemy sightlines are far but its easy to know when someone sees you. Hiding after being spotted or going into alert mode is a great mix of moving and waiting. Sneaking around and not getting caught feels really, really good.

Gameplay options decided upon by the player. You can completely fuck up a mission in your own unique way and figure out how to salvage your mistakes. Tons of options when it comes to infiltration, tons of options when it comes to combat. Very rarely does it feel like something is wasted when it comes to gameplay options.

Cassette tapes are pretty damn good. Fantastic performances from everyone on those. Huey being a monster, really welcoming to see a Emmerich be a complete and utter fuck up.

Great licensed music.

Cons:
Repetitive side ops, way too many. Halving the amount of side ops, making each one more unique, and upping how much GMP you get for each side op would've gone a long way.

Plot is bare bones as fuck, storytelling is fine/good. Almost nothing happens in MGS V, every other MGS it feels like there are high stakes for someone or something, shit is going down and you're in the middle of it. In MGS V, a handful of events occur and some of them don't matter more than five minutes.

It doesn't feel like the 80's. You could tell people this takes place in 2015 and everything would make sense besides the Walkman and reliance on cassettes. Ball was dropped really hard here.

Around 35 unique main missions, the rest are repeats, some of the repeats are neat at least. If the lack of plot seems fucked up, the fact that Kojima and his team couldn't make enough story missions to connect the plot with gameplay is telling. Something went wrong in the middle of development.

Characters are more interesting in tapes than in cutscenes. Bringing back characters for almost no reason and/or making past characters kid masterminds. New Metal Gear was simply alright.

What we got is a great game, but what we weren't given will always be a bummer mystery. Something happened while this was being baked in the oven, and it clearly fucked up the baking process.

   

[Mr. Gundam]

It doesn't feel like the 80's. You could tell people this takes place in 2015 and everything would make sense besides the Walkman and reliance on cassettes. Ball was dropped really hard here.

Definitely. Much of the tech in the game feels way too advanced for 1984.

[archie4208]

Kind of agree with this.

The backlash against 5 is going to be harsh.

Super Bunnyhop's critique was better.

Now that the luster has worn off it is certainly a flawed game and a wet fart of a finale.

[thisismyusername]

It doesn't feel like the 80's. You could tell people this takes place in 2015 and everything would make sense besides the Walkman and reliance on cassettes. Ball was dropped really hard here.

Definitely. Much of the tech in the game feels way too advanced for 1984.

Well, it's not like Peace Walker didn't have some weird tech as well yeah?

I still rank the game within the top 3-4 of MGS for me. But yeah, the story is really apparent that something was fucked in the process this year with Konami rushing this out the door. I'm still wanting to know what that Chapter 3 was filled with given that "leaked" list that was nearly on the nose.

[Purrp Skirrp]

This game is kind of becoming a chore. Only on Mission 14, but I've been going through all the Side Ops available. 23% complete.

Maybe it's just the repetitive nature of Side Ops missions, but I hear some of the main missions are repeats too? Fuck that.

[thisismyusername]

This game is kind of becoming a chore. Only on Mission 14, but I've been going through all the Side Ops available. 23% complete.

Maybe it's just the repetitive nature of Side Ops missions, but I hear some of the main missions are repeats too? Fuck that.

The repeats of the main missions are later and skippable if you do the side-ops a bit later. 3 undone side-ops = new story missions.

So basically if you're finding the side ops a chore, go finish the game until there is no more main missions, then do the side-ops to unlock the last few.

I didn't mind the side-ops since outside of the vehicle escort ones, you can just straight up murder all the others in minutes.

[Mr. Gundam]

Mission 16 reminds me that I suck at Metal Gear.

[thisismyusername]

Mission 16 reminds me that I suck at Metal Gear.

You mean the caravan one?

Trigger the event, if you have Cargo+2 you can fulton the truck by pulling aggro and losing the scripted enemies in the airport area. Lift the target. Then get on a cargo container and fulton yourself out.

[Mr. Gundam]

I'll give it a try.

Its funny, for some reason I bought the guide, but it's really not all that helpful.

[thisismyusername]

And finished Quiet's arc.

Say what you will about her attire (I didn't mind it) but she's probably the strongest character in the game given her story arc. Yeah, there's stupid contradictions in the entire thing, but it's probably one of the stronger arcs Kojima wrote this outing.

I don't like how that mission particularly ends given some the problems with the "in-engine cutscene" since you could be wearing the Battle Dress which kinda nullifies the entire ending but well... I can see why they set it up that way.

[thisismyusername]

Such a lust for mods

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

[fistfulofmetal]

Anytime a missions says "Suggested Weapon: Missiles" I pretty much know it's gonna suck and not be fun.

[The Legend of Sunblade]

I love this game's ranking system

[toku]

[Rahxephon91]

Yeah I'm done. These Extreme and Stealth only repeats aren't fun and the game is bullshit. I have to play these and 157 missions of the same thing just to unlock a semblance of an ending. This is one of the shittiest games I've played in a long time. This may be worst then MGS4. No it is, MGS4 did'nt feel like a lifeless exercise in lazy design.

I don't care if the game has decent level design and good stealth gameplay if it's surrounded by such horrendous padding and tedious design. This game is a peace of shit. Never have I played a MGS game with such unmemorable characters, cutscenes, scenario design, and boss battles. I've hardly played any games with such a lack of respect for your time to the point of just thinking it's ok to rehash everything wholesale and all for nothing. This is a terrible game. I can't believe it got such good reviews.

[thisismyusername]

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Extreme isn't that bad outside of two fights, one of which isn't that bad if you're properly geared and still have Quiet. The total Stealth is a bit bullshit if you have everyone riot geared but you can knock that gear off with a combat deployment mission.

The REAL problem with those redux missions is having to redo the secondary objectives while having the Total Stealth on top of it. Ugh.

I love this game's ranking system

It's kinda stupid.

"Thousands of Alerts? OH BUT YOU FINISHED IN TWO MINUTES!? S-RANK!"