Game of Thrones Season 6 Thread "I choose violence"

[Tasty]

http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=205766973&postcount=11472

i don't know enough about anime to comment!

More of a JRPG thing. Peaceful village, everyone dies, hero goes after the ones who did it, etc.

Except in this case the protag already has a huge and violent backstory, lol.

[toku]

tfw u at the orgy with no penis

[TVC15]

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Cleganebowl WILL happen, although at this point I'm guessing it would be next season. There aren't really enough episodes left to get The Hound to King's Landing this season.

[eleuin]

That woman yara was macking on 

[toku]

Next week gonna bring back the ultra violence

[TVC15]

Safe to say that was the worst episode of this season. Still better than the low-tier episodes from last season though.

It was a good episode to put McShane and The Hound in. If they weren't in it, it would have been totally mediocre, but because of them I kinda loved it.

[Phoenix Dark]

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Cleganebowl WILL happen, although at this point I'm guessing it would be next season. There aren't really enough episodes left to get The Hound to King's Landing this season.

If LF can get to the north and back to the Vale in half an episode certain the Hound can get from the riverlands to King's Landing in time!

[TVC15]

Also I'll say it here because there's not an official thread for it: Julia Louis-Dreyfus made me question my homosexuality tonight.

[helios]

Also I'll say it here because there's not an official thread for it: Julia Louis-Dreyfus made me question my homosexuality tonight.

That cancer line she delivered killed me.

[toku]

Also I'll say it here because there's not an official thread for it: Julia Louis-Dreyfus made me question my homosexuality tonight.

you're gay?

[TVC15]

Selena - If I don't win the White House, O'Brien is gonna sink your stupid boats and you're gonna look like a hair-sprayed asshole in your 1980s mother-of-the-bride dress. And if I do win, I will have my administration come to your shitty little district and shake it to death like a Guatemalan nanny. And then I'm gonna have the IRS crawl so far up your husband's colon, he's gonna wish the only thing they find is more cancer.

Congresswoman - Good God.

Selena - So can I count on your vote? Or do I need to shove a box of White House M&Ms up your stretched-out six-baby vag?

[TVC15]

Also I'll say it here because there's not an official thread for it: Julia Louis-Dreyfus made me question my homosexuality tonight.

Haven't you talked about doing sexual acts with women, or wanting to? Aside from murdering them? I'm like 80% sure I've seen you talk about some kind of heterosexual sex act.

Probably. There are probably other women that I've found attractive that I've commented on. I can't think of specifics offhand.

[Shaka Khan]

I talked my roommate into watching the show, so we binged season 1 this weekend... shortly after, I watched this week's episode. The difference in quality of pacing, events, characters and especially dialog was jarring. Whether we blame the show's divergence from the books or include the declining quality of books as well, it's just sad state of affairs.

These days, I just can't get over the abundance last-second rescues and cheap social media baiting (see: twitter blowing up over Lady Mormont's bad-assery). It's just too lazy.

[toku]

I talked my roommate into watching the show, so we binged season 1 this weekend... shortly after I saw this week's episode. The difference in quality of pacing, events, characters and especially dialog is jarring. Whether we blame the show's divergence from the books or mock the declining quality of books as well, it's just sad state of affairs.

These days, I just can't get over the abundance last-second rescues and cheap social media baiting (see: twitter blowing up over Lady Mormont's bad-assery). It's just too lazy.

Thats because we're definitely in this is very much a tv show territory. That said it's still the best season we've for at least two if only because it's no longer dragging its feet with every single arc.

[Dennis]

The Hound is back!

Arya being this stupid and unprepared is hard to believe. Is it all a ruse? Looked real but maybe she just want to fake her own death so no one comes looking for her.

[Brehvolution]

Arya being this stupid and unprepared is hard to believe. Is it all a ruse? Looked real but maybe she just want to fake her own death so no one comes looking for her.

I didn't understand that part either. I'm going to guess it was a dream.

[Kara]

I'm glad that comic book death is now a pillar of this show / story.

Can't wait for Viserys to come back as Doctor Doom, but made of gold.

[TVC15]

I'd accept any thin excuse to have Viserys come back. He's like the best character in the series.

[brawndolicious]

Nahh Arya wouldn't dig up her sword and make a big show of paying for passage without carrying it around with her. She probably popped some ketchup packets and is getting ready to for real go on a boat somewhere. $1 buck says she's gonna bump into Theon and go haam.

It seems that Marge is gonna kill her second husband too (while pinning it on a holy patsy). Which is why her grandmother is getting out of town to have an alibi and then AGAIN make Cersie do her dirty work after killing one of her children.

Sansa is too much c u next Tuesday because she misses home and I can't see her being a decent ruler of the North .

[ZephyrFate]

They really dropped the ball with Ian McShane. Why didn't he give the

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broken men speech from Septon Meribald?

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Also, Jaime and the Blackfish was awesome primarily because a large chunk of the exchange was written by Martin.

[Phoenix Dark]

McShane's character was clearly not Septon Meribald. I'm glad he didn't give the speech because it would have been out of character, based on the scenes McShane had.

In terms of the Jaime/Blackfish exchange it's interesting they changed it so that Blackfish had never met Jaime before. One of many Jaime changes, and at this point I'm pretty baffled.

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He has no development arc now. Making him remain Cersei's lover seems like little more than an attempt to include a romantic relationship in the season. The growth he displayed with Brienne basically disappeared the minute he came to King's Landing. They sent him to Dorne, then brought him back to the city still madly in love with Cersei and susceptible to her lies. Obviously the show is its own thing but this seems like a pretty specific example of making a character a lot less interesting/complex, and I'm curious what the decision process was. I hope it wasn't just "we need romance."

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[El Babua]

McShane's character was clearly not Septon Meribald. I'm glad he didn't give the speech because it would have been out of character, based on the scenes McShane had.

In terms of the Jaime/Blackfish exchange it's interesting they changed it so that Blackfish had never met Jaime before. One of many Jaime changes, and at this point I'm pretty baffled.

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He has no development arc now. Making him remain Cersei's lover seems like little more than an attempt to include a romantic relationship in the season. The growth he displayed with Brienne basically disappeared the minute he came to King's Landing. They sent him to Dorne, then brought him back to the city still madly in love with Cersei and susceptible to her lies. Obviously the show is its own thing but this seems like a pretty specific example of making a character a lot less interesting/complex, and I'm curious what the decision process was. I hope it wasn't just "we need romance."

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I think the writers always favored Jaime's obsession with Cersei more than his other character traits. Him killing his cousin just for a chance to escape and see her back in season 2 is something book Jaime would never do. Then later in season 4 with him throwing the White Book aside so he could fuck Cersei were the writers almost literally telling everyone this is the direction they want to go with his character. Thus making his development in season 3 seem more like them adapting material just because they had to give him something to do more than them having a clear plan on where his arc (and the series was going).

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In 2013, they realized Martin wasn't going to finish anything on time and subsequently started doing their own thing more in terms of direction starting with S4

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[fistfulofmetal]

So for Episode 9, when the big battle happens

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I think we all know by now that Jon and his soldiers will fight a losing battle against the Boltons until Peter shows up like fuckin Gandalf with his army to save the day.

But what anyone think that Peter will betray Jon? Side with the Boltons? Imprison Jon and kidnap Sansa?

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[TVC15]

So for Episode 9, when the big battle happens

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I think we all know by now that Jon and his soldiers will fight a losing battle against the Boltons until Peter shows up like fuckin Gandalf with his army to save the day.

But what anyone think that Peter will betray Jon? Side with the Boltons? Imprison Jon and kidnap Sansa?

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Assuming the Good Guys win over Winterfell, who's in charge? If Rickon survives (not bloody likely), wouldn't it be him? If Littlefinger is involved, I imagine he'll take over and suggest Sansa marry him to lend him an air of legitimacy to the North or something.

[Huff]

I hope the others win and just murder the earth

[helios]

I want the Night King and Jon Snow to get married and usher in the cold winter of progressivism

[Tasty]

I hope the others win and just murder the earth

But especially Dany

[Mandark]

Thanks to HBO's Sunday lineup, whenever the Sparrow or anyone talks about the Faith and the Crown being the twin pillars of Westeros, all I hear is "sales and engineering are two sides of the conjoined triangles of success, Richard."

[toku]

So for Episode 9, when the big battle happens

spoiler (click to show/hide)

I think we all know by now that Jon and his soldiers will fight a losing battle against the Boltons until Peter shows up like fuckin Gandalf with his army to save the day.

But what anyone think that Peter will betray Jon? Side with the Boltons? Imprison Jon and kidnap Sansa?

[close]

Assuming the Good Guys win over Winterfell, who's in charge? If Rickon survives (not bloody likely), wouldn't it be him? If Littlefinger is involved, I imagine he'll take over and suggest Sansa marry him to lend him an air of legitimacy to the North or something.

Yeah whatever LF's endgame is Sansa is at his side.

[Tasty]

[bluemax]

Episode 10 spoilers

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Have VFX source who works in major firm used by this series. This plot exists, different from the way you expect if you’ve read the books. Northern plot in episode 10. Northern Houses converge in Winterfell post battle. Express regret for not following Jon into battle. Big speech for fat Northern Lord where he struggles to kneel and calls Jon his King. Other Lords follow. Proclaimed King in the North and Jon Stark. In addition, (though less positive) told the shot from trailer where Littlefinger glances behind at something circling when someone comes into view, is Winterfell godswood. CGI stick used for the rear glance shot. Told CGI stick used for Ghost who encircles LF, and the face to face is with Jon. LF will make a big claim of knowledge he is in possession of to Jon. Wish to reiterate less positive this is accurate. VFX source did no work with this supposed scene. Second hand info.

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Per r/freefolk

[Phoenix Dark]

Lol

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so Manderly gives the speech after the battle is won? Way to shitcan one of the coolest moments in the series bros. All this neutering of the north just to prop up Ramsay. I understand they don't have time for a massive conspiracy like the book but Jesus, the north abandoning the children of Eddard Stark does not make sense. And then coming in after the battle and declaring Jon the KOTN like fair weather Freys...nope.

And how the hell does LF know jack shit about who Jon's parents are lol

Only interesting thing here is: how does Sansa react to Winterfell being taken from her and given to Jon? I remember the original synopsis of ASOIAF that Martin wrote had Sansa betraying her family. Maybe that still happens?

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[TakingBackSunday]

question for someone who has only read up to two chapters into a feast for crows

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It was my understanding that Jon hasn't come back in the books yet.  So PD what moment are you referring to when you say "one of the coolest moments in the series?"

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[Phoenix Dark]

question for someone who has only read up to two chapters into a feast for crows

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It was my understanding that Jon hasn't come back in the books yet.  So PD what moment are you referring to when you say "one of the coolest moments in the series?"

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The Manderly speech/reveal in ADWD. Sounds like the show is doing all the northern conspiracy stuff AFTER Jon retakes Winterfell which seems lol worthy to me. Whereas in Dance the north secretly starts mobilizing for Rickon and perhaps Jon too. 

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[Let's Cyber]

Not to dig up a dead horse only to beat it one last time but I'm getting caught up on Season 5 and...

Why did they kill off Barristan Selmy?  He just silently stood there most of the time so the audience could acknowledge him as the legend and badass he was.  He provided a nice bridge and connection from the old, all the way back to Aegon V, to the new and they killed him off for seemingly no reason.

a bit salty now.   I'm a year late but I just finished that episode

[Sausage]

Not to dig up a dead horse only to beat it one last time but I'm getting caught up on Season 5 and...

Why did they kill off Barristan Selmy?  He just silently stood there most of the time so the audience could acknowledge him as the legend and badass he was.  He provided a nice bridge and connection from the old, all the way back to Aegon V, to the new and they killed him off for seemingly no reason.

a bit salty now.   I'm a year late but I just finished that episode

more air time for Ramsey Bolton torture porn.

... And audiences liked grey worm and missandei having leadership roles more

[Phoenix Dark]

I'm guessing it was done so Tyrion could become Dany's closest adviser and take over the city this season. Makes sense to give the bigger character/star that role instead of following the book. Still I wasn't a fan of how they jobbed one of the greatest fighters in the series.

I remember the actor being rather upset about it, given how much dope stuff Barristan does in Dance and the beginning of Winds.

[bluemax]

He's gonna die in the books, the only issue is they made him die like lame when everyone assumes he will go out like a bad ass.

But since GURM likes to be clever Barristan was probably gonna go out like a chump in the books too. No one important dies in combat in ASoIaF.

[brawndolicious]

I always thought that he would die some boring, old peaceful death. Exactly the way he would hate the most.

Current season spoiler:

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I'm gonna be really sad when Davos the onion knight dies.

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[Phoenix Dark]

Well yea Barristan is probably screwed but he's going out in a blaze of glory.

Dance/Winds sample chapters

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there are now three POV characters in the exact same area, four if you expand the radius and include Dany. Tyrion isn't gonna die so that leaves Barristan and Victarion. Wouldn't be stunned if Barristan got played into breaking the peace and will now be assassinated or something. And TBH I think my man Victarion is gonna die once that horn is blown.

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[bluemax]

Rest of season spoilers posted yesterday:

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https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/4nler0/spoilers_for_rest_of_the_season/

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[toku]

God bless Bronn. Always on some #RNS

"I'd fuck her"

 

[ZephyrFate]

That episode was the equivalent of a wet fart with regards to the siege and Arya's whole plotline.

[Sausage]

That last Arya and Jaquen conversation was awful

[dkdk]

even I can't find much positive in that episode. The Hound's parts were cool. that's about it.

[I'm a Puppy!]

what a fucking mess of an episode. Why are they wasting so much time? "Oh let's have Grey worm tell a joke!"

[TVC15]

Weak ep, but in GOOD HBO news, I want this pipe that Erlich had tonight:

[CatsCatsCats]

Long stems

[TVC15]

Next year, this thread should just be titled "The Official 2.5 Good Months of HBO Thread" to cover their three worthwhile shows.

[fistfulofmetal]

I didn't really like this episode. The follow through with the Arya stuff fell completely flat. Chick got skewered twice by a blade, it feels unbelievable that she would be able to be so nimble, escape, then fight off her attacker and win when she has never shown to be able to decisively take her on. Maybe they were setting up that she just need her special sword, still was lame.

[jakefromstatefarm]

Arya is the worst character/arc in the books, so it's appropriate that she sucks in the show too

The Hound was fun, only worthwhile part of the episode

How the fuck do you do all that when you know the audience wants Lady Stoneheart?

do we?

[Human Snorenado]

Only book stans want LSH.

[TVC15]

That whole Riverlands situation was as inessential and pointless as the 1 season Dorne excursion and the 2 season Arya in Braavos situation. At least they were merciful and only let it go on for 2 episodes. However, I'm now concerned that The Hound may be tied up in another pointless plot since it looks like the most likely setup for the Cleganebowl has been nixed.

[king of the internet]

Out of everything, I think my least favorite part of this episode was Jamie continuing to be Cersei's bitch this late in the game, especially after we were teased with some actual character development. I think I dislike him more than ever now. Ed Tully's actor was pretty amazing though, too bad his character has no purpose and may never appear again.

[Phoenix Dark]

Honestly I think most of the LSH demand from book fans is a corny crave to vicariously witness non-book reader's reactions. Meh.

Given how different the show is from the books now, especially in regards to Jaime, I see no logical reason to include LSH. It's not gonna happen.

[king of the internet]

Out of everything, I think my least favorite part of this episode was Jamie continuing to be Cersei's bitch this late in the game, especially after we were teased with some actual character development. I think I dislike him more than ever now. Ed Tully's actor was pretty amazing though, too bad his character has no purpose and may never appear again.

I take this back. There was another Grey Worm / Missandei scene in this episode, and it doesn't get any worse than that. 

[TVC15]

So will Missandei or Grey Worm die soon? There really haven't been any important deaths over there this season, and these characters are kind of redundant. They should kill of Missandei. Grey Worm at least needs to stick around to remind people that Dany has an army.

[Brehvolution]

This seems so long ago.

[bluemax]

I don't know how it's possible to build up a storyline so much and then resolve it so poorly. That was our payoff for 2 years of Arya's Bravos training?

Should've stuck with the 5 year gap.

[ZephyrFate]

Arya is the worst character/arc in the books, so it's appropriate that she sucks in the show too

The Hound was fun, only worthwhile part of the episode

How the fuck do you do all that when you know the audience wants Lady Stoneheart?

do we?

Arya in Braavos is way more interesting in the books, what with the warging and the much more nuanced insight into the conflict between being "no one" and being Arya Stark.