Author Topic: Game of Thrones Season 6 Thread "I choose violence" (Read 87794 times)

Barry Egan · « **Reply #60 on:** April 24, 2016, 09:56:59 PM »

that was pretty good imo, barring the Dornish stuff.

Purple Filth · « **Reply #61 on:** April 24, 2016, 09:58:21 PM »

dat last scene

Stannis keeps wracking up those Ls

Tasty · « **Reply #62 on:** April 24, 2016, 10:06:42 PM »

Lol nothing happened except Sansa and Dorne stuff (aka shit no one cares about.)

No Bran, no Jon Snow resurrection. GTFO.

El Babua · « **Reply #63 on:** April 24, 2016, 10:13:42 PM »

Gay af tbqh

eleuin · « **Reply #64 on:** April 24, 2016, 10:33:48 PM »

fuck this show

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #65 on:** April 24, 2016, 10:36:48 PM »

Can't wait to just read the spoilers later. Stopped watching two episodes in during last season

doctavius bonbon · « **Reply #66 on:** April 24, 2016, 10:44:21 PM »

that was awful

Quote from: Brehvolution on March 09, 2016, 09:12:08 AM

Can't wait for the titties.

they even ruined the tiddies

:'(

Tasty · « **Reply #67 on:** April 24, 2016, 11:05:09 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on April 24, 2016, 10:36:48 PM

Can't wait to just read the spoilers later. Stopped watching two episodes in during last season

Could have done so a couple days ago breh.

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 22, 2016, 09:19:12 PM

First episode was aired on HBO Canada early, leaks are out. TLDR: this season is going to be trash.

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TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #68 on:** April 24, 2016, 11:06:38 PM »

Quote from: Tasty Meat on April 24, 2016, 11:05:09 PM

Quote from: BrandNew on April 24, 2016, 10:36:48 PM
Can't wait to just read the spoilers later. Stopped watching two episodes in during last season

Could have done so a couple days ago breh.

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 22, 2016, 09:19:12 PM
First episode was aired on HBO Canada early, leaks are out. TLDR: this season is going to be trash.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/4g0myj/spoilers_everything_season_6_episode_1_leak/
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I meant for the entire season

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #69 on:** April 24, 2016, 11:07:29 PM »

Wall stuff was cool. That's it.

They really shitcanned Dorne lmao

Sausage · « **Reply #70 on:** April 24, 2016, 11:28:18 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 24, 2016, 11:07:29 PM

Wall stuff was cool. That's it.

They really shitcanned Dorne lmao

Do you think this indicates that all of the world building gurm did in the 4th and 5th books was ultimately pointless

Rufus · « **Reply #71 on:** April 24, 2016, 11:43:54 PM »

Of course, regardless of anything. Because he's never finishing this series.

ZephyrFate · « **Reply #72 on:** April 24, 2016, 11:52:02 PM »

Quote from: Sausage on April 24, 2016, 11:28:18 PM

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 24, 2016, 11:07:29 PM

Wall stuff was cool. That's it.

They really shitcanned Dorne lmao

Do you think this indicates that all of the world building gurm did in the 4th and 5th books was ultimately pointless

No, not really. Doran was indirectly responsible for a few of the major plot points in the series and I think the Dorne plotline had a lot more left in it for the never-coming-out books to flesh out. The showrunners decided to end that plotline in the stupidest possible fashion, of course.

mormapope · « **Reply #73 on:** April 24, 2016, 11:52:08 PM »

Has seemed like Game of Thrones was a sequel to True Blood when it comes to HBO shows. Strong start, good couple of seasons after the first, and then the quality starts to go down significantly.

eleuin · « **Reply #74 on:** April 25, 2016, 12:07:43 AM »

I think its pretty clear these showrunners are damn hacks

Freyj · « **Reply #75 on:** April 25, 2016, 12:12:51 AM »

Holy fuck that was bad. Can't believe they're doubling down on the shitty sand snakes

Show Jaime can fuck off as well.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #76 on:** April 25, 2016, 12:40:27 AM »

They were always going to have to cut a bunch of shit, or roll it up into other shit.

I understand why they cut shit (because GURM became incapable of advancing the plot, instead choosing to world build by introducing new characters, which is impossible to sustain on a show, btw you shitbirds) and will reserve judgment until I see where shit goes. Of course, the only thing that could really improve Dorne at this point would be a meteor strike, but I guess that

ADwD/TWoW

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rolling the Aegon invasion into just a Dorne vs. Lannister fight

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works.

CatsCatsCats · « **Reply #77 on:** April 25, 2016, 12:51:23 AM »

I mean, it wasn't worse than I was expecting. If the Dorne thing gets us closer to actual plot progression, then awesome

ZephyrFate · « **Reply #78 on:** April 25, 2016, 12:54:10 AM »

I liked the point others made about the final scene

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The books and the show touch upon Melisandre's ineffectual powers in different ways, but with the same result: She doesn't understand when it works, and when she wants it to work, it doesn't. Showing her as being a very, very old being means that she's been around a long time. She's seen kingdoms fall and rise. And if she's giving up now -- it's a portent of worse to come.

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Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #79 on:** April 25, 2016, 12:57:47 AM »

Yea I agree that's what they're doing.

Dance/Winds

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of course they're doing it with none of the book's buildup and it'll be sloppy as fuck. Dorne has to invade through the Reach, against the full might of the Tyrells. Whereas in the books the Tyrells are besieged on multiple fronts (Euron reaving plus Aegon) thus presumably giving Dorne a perfect opportunity to attack, in the show they'll just magically invade against an enemy with an army 2-3 times as big that has no distractions to worry about. Ok.

Trash. I'm guessing Euron will start shit in the show soon but will it be against the Reach or the Citadel?

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Dorne needed major changes to work on tv but they did it terribly. Really I think cutting Arianne was a bad idea.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #80 on:** April 25, 2016, 01:05:32 AM »

I'm not going to defend Dorne because it's been a complete and total shitshow since Oberon died, and was obnoxious half the time he was alive (hey, here's the Red Viper, ONCE AGAIN FUCKING YOU GUYS DID YOU KNOW HE LIKES TO FUCK HERE HE IS FUCKING) too. I will completely agree that they chose to focus on the lesser interesting Dornish characters.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #81 on:** April 25, 2016, 01:22:20 AM »

Not to mention they spent most of last season hammering home that a bastard, even if legitimized, isn't going to be respected enough to rule without marrying a powerful house - hence Ramsay and Sansa. And then tonight a bastard kills the Dornish Prince as his guards cosign it, and will presumably be ruling Dorne now.

Like literally, the entire (show) Martell line was eliminated by some bastards and Dorne is cool with that, because they want revenge...for Elia Martell and her children. Wut.

Vizzys · « **Reply #82 on:** April 25, 2016, 04:21:00 AM »

so did brienne kill the dogs or did they magically disappear

Brehvolution · « **Reply #83 on:** April 25, 2016, 09:56:23 AM »

Quote from: doctavius bonbon on April 24, 2016, 10:44:21 PM

that was awful
Quote from: Brehvolution on March 09, 2016, 09:12:08 AM
Can't wait for the titties.
they even ruined the tiddies

:'(

That thousand year old bush though.

studyguy · « **Reply #84 on:** April 25, 2016, 10:47:09 AM »

Military tactics don't matter in this show, considering Stannis' entire army was brought to heel by a couple shirtless dudes with torches. The whole Dorne bit will play out as we expect, they show up in King's Landing at some point and probably become the jobbers for another invading army.

They should have just cut Dorne tbh

They did Hotah wrong

I'm a Puppy! · « **Reply #85 on:** April 25, 2016, 11:45:52 AM »

Holy fuck. I mean, apparently they thought to themselves "Well this Dorne shit is already derailed, how about we just set it on fire?" I mean the only hope is that now they never speak of Dorne again. please don't speak of Dorne ever again. Please. And Jaime? That's taking out one of the most compelling things in the book. I mean Brienne was great and the wall stuff was OK, but honestly it says a lot that I was more excited for Silicon Valley than Game of Thrones.

Steve Contra · « **Reply #86 on:** April 25, 2016, 12:44:10 PM »

Dorne

Overstuffed episode all together, although the wall stuff was good. We'll see.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #87 on:** April 25, 2016, 01:45:38 PM »

How did the Sand Snakes get on the boat? They were on the dock as the ship sailed away

Why was Trystane still on the ship after arriving in KL? Shouldn't he have tried to offer condolences to Jaime or Cersei? Or assumed his seat on the Small Counsel?

BTW why not let Trystane live and bet on Cersei arresting him? Then rally Dorne around saving or avenging him?

The book is the book and the show is the show but jeez if I was the guy playing Jaime I'd be bummed that they took a complicated, emotionally complex character and made him little more than Cersei's lover.

I'm a Puppy! · « **Reply #88 on:** April 25, 2016, 01:47:34 PM »

Not to mention why did Trystane say "I'll fight you" then turn his back to an armed woman?
I mean the moment he turned towards the whip girl I was like' Turn around and stab the spear woman you dolt!"

king of the internet · « **Reply #89 on:** April 25, 2016, 04:44:31 PM »

The gap in quality between the good stuff (primarily the North) and the bad (DORNE

) is jarring. The show is still mostly very good imo, which only makes the bad stand out even more. The sand snakes feel like something from the cutting room floor of Xena Princess Warrior.

eleuin · « **Reply #90 on:** April 25, 2016, 04:55:26 PM »

I'm just mad that they ruined titties :'(

I'm a Puppy! · « **Reply #91 on:** April 25, 2016, 05:02:56 PM »

My reaction to all that was

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CatsCatsCats · « **Reply #92 on:** April 25, 2016, 05:03:18 PM »

They're still real to me, dammit

nudemacusers · « **Reply #93 on:** April 25, 2016, 05:06:43 PM »

Quote from: I'm a Puppy! on April 25, 2016, 05:02:56 PM

My reaction to all that was

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Imagine them slapping you in the face as she rides you

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #94 on:** April 25, 2016, 05:36:54 PM »

We didn't even discuss the Dothraki stuff feeling like a midnight SyFy made-for-tv movie. What the fuck is with the dialogue? I like how different people talk differently depending on their culture/country in the books, and the show has done well adapting that to an extent...but then you get Dothraki dudebros

I'm a Puppy! · « **Reply #95 on:** April 25, 2016, 06:24:46 PM »

What are you talking about PD?

Seeing a beautiful woman naked for the first time is amongst the top....5 things in life.

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That even hurt to type. Less than seeing it in the show, but it still hurt

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Tasty · « **Reply #96 on:** April 25, 2016, 07:12:43 PM »

http://www.theonion.com/article/nation-relieved-insufferable-little-game-thrones-f-52801

RIP book-bore

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #97 on:** April 25, 2016, 07:35:58 PM »

seagrams hotsauce · « **Reply #98 on:** April 25, 2016, 08:22:21 PM »

Quote from: I'm a Puppy! on April 25, 2016, 01:47:34 PM

Not to mention why did Trystane say "I'll fight you" then turn his back to an armed woman?
I mean the moment he turned towards the whip girl I was like' Turn around and stab the spear woman you dolt!"

I really assumed that he was gonna pull some 360noscope shit and murk the one behind him and then the one in front when he turned his back on the first one. Why would you do that??? He had plenty of room to fight and could have kept the other one in his peripheral vision?

?

Dennis · « **Reply #99 on:** April 25, 2016, 10:06:30 PM »

People (filthy book readers) are too down on the show. It is still pretty damn compelling.

You can blame your boy GRRM for not having advanced the plot in the books for ages.

Yeah Dorne is lame compared to the rest but whatevs.

Dennis · « **Reply #100 on:** April 25, 2016, 10:09:46 PM »

Mellisandre though.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #101 on:** April 25, 2016, 11:00:47 PM »

I'll defend Dorne to a degree: apparently the place where the scenes are shot has very limited accessibility, so they often have to shoot quick and gtfo. It looks beautiful, definitely looks like the "water gardens" looked in my mind to a degree...but perhaps another location would have been more practical. Dunno.

Another thing

Dance/Winds

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I think we're seeing that cutting Arianne and/or Aegon from the Dornish plot is impossible. Arianne ties everything together emotionally and logically. I think the show erred by inflating Ellaria's role instead of just having Oberyn come to King's Landing with a young, sultry Arianne; sure Ellaria would still be cast...but as a minor character with little to no lines. Oberyn dies, Arianne swears revenge and now you have a familiar character to introduce Dorne with next season instead of shoehorning Jaime and Bronn there.

Obviously changes would be made, and it's not like Dorne would have a lot of screen time even with Arianne. But I still think the general storyline of having a young, well cast/acted Arianne facing off against her pragmatic father and a grieving widow who just wants peace (Ellaria) would have made for better television. Also turning the Sand Snakes into goons was a bad fucking idea. Why not have one goon (Obara with the spear) and one wild card - Tyene, the sinful septa. Dunno exactly where I'd go after that plot wise, without Aegon or Quentyn. But just about anything is better than what we got.

Hell, Doran could have sent Arianne to Meereen with ships to bring Dany back. Apparently this season Yara/Asha is going to be sent to get Dany. Doing it with Arianne would allow them to completely cut the Iron Islands out the show.

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CatsCatsCats · « **Reply #102 on:** April 26, 2016, 12:37:26 AM »

Shooting this season had to be extra stressful for the actors. No more books to tell them if they live

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #103 on:** April 26, 2016, 04:56:49 AM »

As someone who hasn't read the books the episode was cool.

48 minutes went by waaaay too fast.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #104 on:** April 26, 2016, 09:50:00 AM »

Quote from: Premium Lager on April 26, 2016, 04:56:49 AM

48 minutes went by waaaay too fast.

Since there are 20+ different character story lines, they can only spend 2 minutes on each.

I'm a Puppy! · « **Reply #105 on:** April 26, 2016, 10:10:56 AM »

Why am I not surprised PD would defend the Dorne scenes?

bluemax · « **Reply #106 on:** April 27, 2016, 12:57:44 AM »

This episode just makes you realize how much useless shit was in books 4a and 4b. Sure they made it even shittier in some ways, but the point is that it is all irrelevant in the end.

ZephyrFate · « **Reply #107 on:** April 27, 2016, 08:41:52 AM »

nah. Made me realize how interesting and awesome Books 4 and 5 were and how shit the show is when it diverges from them entirely.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #108 on:** April 27, 2016, 03:49:35 PM »

Even if you dislike various arcs in the last two books I'm not sure I can think of a single arc that is better overall in the show right now or last season. Is anyone here gonna say Jaime going to Dorne and being Cersei's buttboy is better than his AFFC arc? Speak up now so I can ask a mod to ban you. What about Arya's training being reduced to being beaten instead of, you know...

Dance

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killing dudes with poisoned coins and skin changing into cats

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I'd say getting Tyrion to Meereen fast is perhaps the only one I'd pick. And even that has some issues.

Dance/Winds

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I liked the fact that Tyrion had a mental breakdown/crisis in Dance instead of returning to being witty/funny Tyrion immediately after killing his lover and father. I liked what the Penny stuff meant to his development. Also liked how he figured out who Connington is, and seemingly figured out Aegon is fake. And I like that Winds sample chapter where the battle starts.

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But the show is the show and the books are the books. Changes don't matter to me. I just want a good TV show. Which we didn't get last season or on Sunday.

Steve Contra · « **Reply #109 on:** April 27, 2016, 04:08:26 PM »

The Dorne scenes were a mess and partly because of shit planning. I think they had 2 days at the Alcazar to film with a million restrictions, which meant the production was going to suffer. And I think they even had to film Doran's death before last season there, which meant no room to clean it up after how badly last season went. Doesn't excuse the lazy plot, but really they shouldn't even have bothered, unless Dorne is somehow integral to later story.

And there are way too many plot threads going on. Same problem with the books, you get to book six and you have an explosion of unresolved shit.

ZephyrFate · « **Reply #110 on:** April 28, 2016, 08:34:01 AM »

Given the weird shrinking of budget this season, Victarion is now Asha/Yara. Yay.

CatsCatsCats · « **Reply #111 on:** April 28, 2016, 08:48:25 AM »

Steve Contra · « **Reply #112 on:** April 28, 2016, 12:56:41 PM »

Victarion is a garbage character anyway. He's basically everything wrong with GRR Martin in a single character.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #113 on:** April 28, 2016, 01:43:27 PM »

I like Victarion for many of the same reasons I liked Cersei's chapters. How often do you get a POV for someone who is just a straight dumbass or (in Vic's case) seems mentally challenged? Plus he acts like I'd expect a heartless pos viking to act.

affc/dance

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"hey bro I want you to travel to the end of the earth with this horn and kidnap the most beautiful woman in the world alongside her dragons. Then bring them back to me ok? BTW sorry I fucked your wife"

"...Ok"

He doesn't realize this shit is a trap?

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CatsCatsCats · « **Reply #114 on:** April 28, 2016, 09:12:56 PM »

I have no need to defend them as "good" but I have a need to finish the story. So, I mean, whatever. Clearly I'm not the only one or everyone shitting on them wouldn't still be watching and talking about it

ZephyrFate · « **Reply #115 on:** April 28, 2016, 10:20:08 PM »

Quote from: Kaffir The Reaper on April 28, 2016, 09:07:04 PM

Quote from: bluemax on April 27, 2016, 12:57:44 AM
This episode just makes you realize how much useless shit was in books 4a and 4b. Sure they made it even shittier in some ways, but the point is that it is all irrelevant in the end.
Quote from: ZephyrFate on April 27, 2016, 08:41:52 AM
nah. Made me realize how interesting and awesome Books 4 and 5 were and how shit the show is when it diverges from them entirely.

Lets just agree that both the books and the show went to shit a while ago.

Nope! I like the books as they are right now.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #116 on:** April 29, 2016, 02:10:39 AM »

Quote from: ZephyrFate on April 28, 2016, 10:20:08 PM

Quote from: Kaffir The Reaper on April 28, 2016, 09:07:04 PM
Quote from: bluemax on April 27, 2016, 12:57:44 AM
This episode just makes you realize how much useless shit was in books 4a and 4b. Sure they made it even shittier in some ways, but the point is that it is all irrelevant in the end.
Quote from: ZephyrFate on April 27, 2016, 08:41:52 AM
nah. Made me realize how interesting and awesome Books 4 and 5 were and how shit the show is when it diverges from them entirely.

Lets just agree that both the books and the show went to shit a while ago.
Nope! I like the books as they are right now.

"My opinion continues to be shit about everything I weigh in on"

ZephyrFate · « **Reply #117 on:** April 29, 2016, 11:54:04 PM »

Your existence has been shit since day one.

Dennis · « **Reply #118 on:** April 30, 2016, 01:12:58 PM »

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #119 on:** April 30, 2016, 05:19:06 PM »

Quote from: ZephyrFate on April 29, 2016, 11:54:04 PM

Your existence has been shit since day one.

Yes, but I can't help that. You don't HAVE to have shitty opinions, yet you persist in doing so...

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