The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild

[TakingBackSunday]

aight santac has weighed in, my e3 bingo card is complete

[SantaC]

aight santac has weighed in, my e3 bingo card is complete

Says the rabid nintendofanboy.

Nothing about this game screams must play other then having zelda in its title.

And locking stuff behind amiboos wtf

[TVC15]

Twilight Princess overworld was

New Zelda game has an overworld 12 times bigger than the Twilight Princess overworld

That means the new overworld is gonna be 

The overworld looks pretty bad, but so much else looks really promising. I'm finding myself a little hopeful even though the last two 3d Zeldas have been terrible. I think the overworld can still be fixed.

[Tasty]

Twilight Princess overworld was

New Zelda game has an overworld 12 times bigger than the Twilight Princess overworld

That means the new overworld is gonna be 

Nah, it already has more going on and more potential for exploration and experimentation than TP ever did. I love TP but its Hyrule Field was basically a small flat floor separated by narrow corriders. Maybe you'd find some monsters or something but nothing like the camps or shrines in this game. No climbing on anything, a hill higher than your shoulders was basically a wall you couldn't do anything with.

[Cerveza mas fina]

I think it's weak to say they are benchmarking themselves against a 2011 title in 2017 and this is some achievement.

Thats setting the bar low, even for Nintnendo.

do you know Nintendo?  The fact they're doing this kind of game at all is going beyond what Nintendo is known for

yeah I know Nintendo used to be at the forefront of what was doable (mario 64, oot) and now they are targeting to compete with a 2011 title in 2017

is this like the paralympics or something where nintendo is handicapped so they have their special event and special metrics apply to them because "nintendo"? If Sony or MS released an AAA open world game like this they would get slaughtered by the press for not making an effort

i feel bad even comparing to the paralympics cause everyone there is doing their best unlike nintendo

[TakingBackSunday]

I will say that Horizon's overworld looks much much better

[TVC15]

There's something about Horizon that's rubbing me the wrong way, but I can't quite satisfactorily say what. The character interactions and VA in the demo looked and sounded pretty weak and all, but there's something more to it. I think the whole robo mega-fauna thing is pretty dumb, but I'm not sure that's it either. I should be liking it, but for some reason I don't.

Maybe I'm just not dumb enough to believe that Guerrilla Games could make something better than awful. Yeah, that must be it.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Its the guerilla factor no doubt, they never made a good game so far (except Cambridge studio)

[mormapope]

Horizon looks like a third person Far Cry rip off where hunting is the main gameplay loop. The section where they used the dialog wheel looked worse than Mass Effect 1 on 360, when it comes to idle animations.

Horizon reminds me if a Far Cry team tried to make a Shadow of the Colossus clone. People are easily wowed by visuals and concepts, the actual game looks awkward and boring.

[Positive Touch]

horizon looks to much like it'll be one of those games that had detailed animations and lots to do, but it'll all be so shallow and simple that it'll get repetitive fast. an ubi game, basically.

[Cerveza mas fina]

i def agree with all of this, Im kind of hyped because of the concept but something is off

[BobFromPikeCreek]

This looks sick. I almost don't regret buying a Wii U now.

[Human Snorenado]

Game looks like shit. Zelda as an AAA franchise is over.

Well, if someone that holds the noted quality Tales franchise up as a measuring stick says so, I guess we have to take their word as law.

[Tasty]

Nintendo won E3 guys.

[mormapope]

I'd say Zelda is probably game of the show. But it won due to this E3 being boring and vanilla.

All this VR support is 

It reminds me of the motion controls boom, scaled back ambition so the player can get a cool "experience".

[TVC15]

Yeah, it's really like Homer Simpson whipping those little kids' asses at the science fair.

[Human Snorenado]

Yeah, this E3 is shitty. Zelda does look good, though. I'm legit excited about that and Persona 5.

But that's literally it. Videogames are going in directions I'm not interested in- VR and all multi-player, all the time. I'm going to switch my P5 preorder to PS3, there's literally no reason for me to ever own a PS4.

[Let's Cyber]

There are multiple ways to make a big, open world interesting.  Witcher 3 does it through storytelling and the quality of the writing.  Dragon's Dogma and (at least it looks like) Horizon will do it through combat.   Or you you have big sandbox games crackdown/gta/saints row.   Zelda trying out the far cry/survival/crafting stuff has a ton of potential because that classic Zelda bedrock of dungeons/puzzles is still there underneath.  An open ended Zelda with mini dungeons everywhere within a giant sandbox to explore and interact with is pretty much the best course for the series to go in, IMO. 

The meat and potatoes of any Zelda is the dungeons and puzzles (and their quality).  It is what differentiates it from the competitors and what will continue to set it apart. 

[SantaC]

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[SantaC]

Game looks like shit. Zelda as an AAA franchise is over.

Well, if someone that holds the noted quality Tales franchise up as a measuring stick says so, I guess we have to take their word as law.

Tales franchise with 1/10 of the  zelda budget atleast didnt had their games built around awful waggling and non functional controls.

[Positive Touch]

zelda made this forum to full on shit

[Cerveza mas fina]

There are multiple ways to make a big, open world interesting.  Witcher 3 does it through storytelling and the quality of the writing.  Dragon's Dogma and (at least it looks like) Horizon will do it through combat.   Or you you have big sandbox games crackdown/gta/saints row.   Zelda trying out the far cry/survival/crafting stuff has a ton of potential because that classic Zelda bedrock of dungeons/puzzles is still there underneath.  An open ended Zelda with mini dungeons everywhere within a giant sandbox to explore and interact with is pretty much the best course for the series to go in, IMO. 

The meat and potatoes of any Zelda is the dungeons and puzzles (and their quality).  It is what differentiates it from the competitors and what will continue to set it apart.

Yes of course, that's where the real gameplay is in Zelda. I agree that this is a great course for Zelda to take. I would have been happy with a sort of Metroidzeldasouls approach too.

That said it does't excuse the sparse overworld we've seen so far.

I'm interested in this Zelda as I haven't played any since TP which was a turd (that opening was like 7 hours and the game was unplayable on HDTV) and hope it won't have the petulant handholding that the series and Nintendo has become known for (unskipable dialogue etc. stupid help prompts, some fairy giving hints all t he time)

[Tasty]

you know the cel shading looks really bad in this game

wind waker had great cel shading

i've seen other games do cel shading

link looks fucking weird in this game all the cel shaded stuff looks like it's glowing and shit

nintendo can't get anything right these days

I was gonna say it reminds me of watercolors, but that was more SS's thing. Thinking about it more, BotW looks like an acrylic style - everything looks at least a little shiny and wet.



Link has the same kind of effect as that shiny glob of paint, imo. Maybe I'm just weird.



I don't hate it, but I do think WW and SS probably had better, more consistent art styles (though SS was let down quite a bit by the hardware it was on.)

[TVC15]

From what I've seen, it's my favorite Zelda art style since Wind Waker.

[Tasty]

From what I've seen, it's my favorite Zelda art style since Wind Waker.

The only knock I have against it is Link seems to stand out from literally everything else in the game. Like I said I think he has some kind of shimmer or gleam. Might be my eyes getting old though, holding off on forming a definitive opinion until I play the game in person. (I warmed up to SS's style considerably while playing it.)

[Stoney Mason]

From what I've seen, it's my favorite Zelda art style since Wind Waker.

I prefer its art style to wind waker.  But yeah both are good.

[Huff]

Looks solid, but I was also kinda hyped for SS and that was trash.

Will wait and see since they're by the same guy

[Huff]

Just make another handheld Zelda since those are usually good

[Tasty]

https://twitter.com/aloadofhupla/status/743664924505800704

[Tasty]

It's Nintendo's biggest team ever, I'm sure many of them are working on this.

[Trent Dole]

Both of those facts up my interest in this.

[Take My Breh Away]

Just make another handheld Zelda since those are usually good

3 of the last 4 were pretty mediocre. Only A Link Between Worls was very good.

Speaking of, any word on the ALBW team working on this.

Both the ALBW team and Monolithsoft are working on it along with a lot of other Nintendo teams like Andrex mentioned, apparently.

I was lukewarm on the reveal trailer, but this looks pretty damn good. Not sure I'd buy a new console for it though.

[Human Snorenado]

I'm gonna get a Wii U for it, I think. I mean, it has such a varied library, with such classics as... uh... ok.

Looks like I'm buying a Zelda machine.

[Tasty]

I'm gonna get a Wii U for it, I think. I mean, it has such a varied library, with such classics as... uh... ok.

Looks like I'm buying a Zelda machine.

MK8 and Smash are the best in the series.

Plus the definitive versions of WW and TP. Though they would make it even more of a "Zelda machine..."

[mormapope]

The best single player games on Wii U are:

Bayonetta 2
Super Mario Maker
Wonderful 101
Windwaker and Twilight Princess

And that's about it 

Smash and Mario Kart are alright games alone, but they're really meant for social gatherings I feel. This also applies to Super Mario 3D World.

[Cerveza mas fina]

I'm gonna get a Wii U for it, I think. I mean, it has such a varied library, with such classics as... uh... ok.

Looks like I'm buying a Zelda machine.

wouldnt it make more sense to get the nx? prob same price and the chance for another zelda

[Human Snorenado]

I'm pretty much a single player type of gamer. However, even if I did enjoy multi-player games, and for some disgusting reason didn't completely hate the Smash series, the thought of sitting among people who like that game is so triggering I just want to start killing and never stop.

[TakingBackSunday]

You can find pretty normal people who enjoy both Mario Kart and Smash

[mormapope]

Does Nintendo go to Tokyo Game Show? If they do there should be news on the NX at that point.

[Madrun Badrun]

Nintendo has never been strong on TGS.  The NX unavailing will probably be at their own thing. 

[Tasty]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=207210063&postcount=3903

[Trent Dole]

I'm gonna get a Wii U for it, I think. I mean, it has such a varied library, with such classics as... uh... ok.

Looks like I'm buying a Zelda machine.

Yeah, I was looking at its Library the other day and there's not exactly a pile of hidden must play gems on there. Just the obvious first party stuff and Hyrule Warriors cause that shit is so weird(but it's got a 3DS port with more content included that the Wii U ver which you can BUY as DLC ).

[Human Snorenado]

You can find pretty normal people who enjoy both Mario Kart and Smash

No you can not, at least not for Smash. They're all people whose genes need to get out of the pool.

[Human Snorenado]

I'm gonna get a Wii U for it, I think. I mean, it has such a varied library, with such classics as... uh... ok.

Looks like I'm buying a Zelda machine.

Yeah, I was looking at its Library the other day and there's not exactly a pile of hidden must play gems on there. Just the obvious first party stuff and Hyrule Warriors cause that shit is so weird(but it's got a 3DS port with more content included that the Wii U ver which you can BUY as DLC ).

Yup. I guess I'll probably get Bayonetta 2 and maybe X or whatever.

[Tasty]

You can find pretty normal people who enjoy both Mario Kart and Smash

No you can not, at least not for Smash. They're all people whose genes need to get out of the pool.

3,795 entrants at Evo last year, deal with it grandpa.

[Human Snorenado]

You can find pretty normal people who enjoy both Mario Kart and Smash

No you can not, at least not for Smash. They're all people whose genes need to get out of the pool.

3,795 entrants at Evo last year, deal with it grandpa.

There are furry conventions with larger attendance numbers, and I'm not letting them off the hook either.

But, this thread is about one of Nintendo's two remaining relevant franchises. Stay on topic, please.

[TakingBackSunday]

You can find pretty normal people who enjoy both Mario Kart and Smash

No you can not, at least not for Smash. They're all people whose genes need to get out of the pool.

I've played Smash brothers with plenty of normal folks.  They don't obsess over it, but there were parties about a year ago that I would go to where we would make fancy drinks, listen to music, and play Smash drinking games and Beerio Kart. 

[Tasty]

You can find pretty normal people who enjoy both Mario Kart and Smash

No you can not, at least not for Smash. They're all people whose genes need to get out of the pool.

I've played Smash brothers with plenty of normal folks.  They don't obsess over it, but there were parties about a year ago that I would go to where we would make fancy drinks, listen to music, and play Smash drinking games and Beerio Kart.

Dude there's no use trying to talk to this guy.

[Positive Touch]

why is it smash fans always get so butthurt when someone doesn't like their game

also just an observation but a lot of us in our 30s don't seem to care for the series, prolly because we were too old for it when it came out 

[Tasty]

why is it smash fans always get so butthurt when someone doesn't like their game

I mean getting a little defensive is probably warranted when someone says you should be cleansed from the gene pool and you're no better than furries.

I don't give a fuck if you don't like Smash, but that talk should be reserved for Walrus's political opponents.

[Tasty]

It's just trash talk, dude.

No shit

[TVC15]

I'm tempted to get a Wii U again because I thirst to play Bayonetta 1/2 again.

[benjipwns]

Does Nintendo go to Tokyo Game Show? If they do there should be news on the NX at that point.

Nintendo has never been strong on TGS.  The NX unavailing will probably be at their own thing.

IIRC, Nintendo is a sponsor of TGS but otherwise doesn't participate.

[Human Snorenado]

The NX will be revealed in a Nintendo Direct type thing in the coming months. I don't expect it will be worth owning.

[curly]

I'm gonna get a Wii U for it, I think. I mean, it has such a varied library, with such classics as... uh... ok.

Looks like I'm buying a Zelda machine.

MK8 and Smash are the best in the series.

   

[Tasty]

I'm gonna get a Wii U for it, I think. I mean, it has such a varied library, with such classics as... uh... ok.

Looks like I'm buying a Zelda machine.

MK8 and Smash are the best in the series.

   

Prove me wrong, pleb

[curly]

Prove me wrong, pleb

No thanks that sounds annoying

[Tasty]

I win

[TakingBackSunday]

why is it smash fans always get so butthurt when someone doesn't like their game

also just an observation but a lot of us in our 30s don't seem to care for the series, prolly because we were too old for it when it came out

Oh I'm not butt hurt, I don't really care if people don't like the game.  I'm just saying it's not like the people who play it are like people who plays those Japanese wife simulator games or whatever the fuck they are