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Re: Is it just me or is the gaming side of this forum pretty dead?
« Reply #60 on: August 07, 2016, 07:19:55 PM »
The Genesis was great. The SNES and Genesis are on the same level in my book, I prefer the Genesis.

Super Metroid is the best game on either, though.

Honest question, because I don't know: what did the Genesis have aside from Sonic?

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« Reply #61 on: August 07, 2016, 07:24:58 PM »


Played this game a lot. It was pretty freaking hard.
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« Reply #62 on: August 07, 2016, 08:11:56 PM »
The Genesis was great. The SNES and Genesis are on the same level in my book, I prefer the Genesis.

Super Metroid is the best game on either, though.

Honest question, because I don't know: what did the Genesis have aside from Sonic?

The sickest shooters, and that goddamn synth  :rejoice

Entire genres of electronic music are defined by archaic pieces of equipment and loved because of their limitations, some of the arguments re explicitly declaring superiority of one soundchip over another because "clarity" is so goddamn dumb. But that's nerds for you.





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« Reply #63 on: August 07, 2016, 08:53:28 PM »
Also, you gotta scope some of the parallax effects in Thunderforce IV, so beautiful, the aesthetics of that game
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« Reply #64 on: August 07, 2016, 08:54:03 PM »
The Hard Corps soundtrack.  :lawd

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« Reply #65 on: August 07, 2016, 09:56:13 PM »
I wonder if implementing "Borito Bucks" would be a good way to incentivize posting on the gaming side.  :doge


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« Reply #66 on: August 07, 2016, 10:15:47 PM »
The Hard Corps soundtrack.  :lawd

Everything gets turnt up on Genesis

Great track



But the genesis gabba remix  :dice

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Re: Is it just me or is the gaming side of this forum pretty dead?
« Reply #67 on: August 07, 2016, 10:49:28 PM »
To answer OP, I havent had the time/money/inclination for vidya lately. Been playing paper MTG and going to university and yeah. I'll get back into at some point, if I ever splash out on a Bone or PS4.

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« Reply #68 on: August 07, 2016, 11:10:02 PM »



The Omake tracks on the TF4 soundtrack are sooooo good. I actually like them better than the main game's music! Wonder why they never got used in the game proper, though?
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« Reply #69 on: August 08, 2016, 01:43:47 AM »
Real Talk: Contra: Hard Corps is one of the best games on the system. Even though it's (IMO) Nintendo Hard. I think I only "beat" it once and it was with the secret Time Warp ending. The later stages get pretty tough.

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« Reply #70 on: August 08, 2016, 02:20:21 AM »
The 16bit era was and is still amazing  :lawd

So many classics still waiting for me to play on both systems. SNES and Genesis are godlike.


Also Andrex, you should definitely look into the Genesis library. Even if the SNES has more games and arguably better games (depending on taste), Sega's offering is still something to not miss out on. Lots of cool unique games there too. Rocket Knight Adventure and Gunstar Heroes ranks as my favorite non-Sonic Sega Genesis games.

Real Talk: Contra: Hard Corps is one of the best games on the system. Even though it's (IMO) Nintendo Hard. I think I only "beat" it once and it was with the secret Time Warp ending. The later stages get pretty tough.
One of the games I want to really give a shot. The soundtrack is sick.
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« Reply #71 on: August 08, 2016, 02:51:34 AM »
The Hard Corps soundtrack.  :lawd

Everything gets turnt up on Genesis

Great track



But the genesis gabba remix  :dice


Goddamn that shit is fire.
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« Reply #72 on: August 08, 2016, 04:52:33 AM »


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« Reply #73 on: August 08, 2016, 04:53:46 AM »
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« Reply #74 on: August 08, 2016, 05:37:01 AM »
boo, thought i might have had an extra key for it

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« Reply #75 on: August 08, 2016, 07:14:15 AM »
Transformed is awesome.  Get it on PC if you can for 60 FPS.
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« Reply #76 on: August 08, 2016, 10:12:09 AM »
Real Talk: Contra: Hard Corps is one of the best games on the system. Even though it's (IMO) Nintendo Hard. I think I only "beat" it once and it was with the secret Time Warp ending. The later stages get pretty tough.
In the Japanese version you can take a couple of hits before you die. Makes learning it much easier. I still didn't get very far, mind, but I didn't try for very long.

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« Reply #77 on: August 08, 2016, 11:21:28 AM »
Man, SEGA from like the mid 80's to right before the Sammy acquisition was sooooooo fire. I miss the shit out of that Sega. Now it's all terrible Sonic games, Yakuza games that take too long to localize even if they get localized, and slew of bad decisions. I get why business wise, but still disappointed by it.

The dumb fanboy in me creeped back out when they were publishing Platinum Games thinking this was the start of silver age, didn't realize they didn't own Platinum and then their small moment of taking risks stopped very quickly. Aside from the Platinum games and Binary Domain, what has Sega done lately that's worth noting?
From what I recalled, Sega of America(?) got a new boss and they stated they want to take things seriously again and focus on quality. So after Sonic Mania, they seem to be listening to their fans a little more. Even letting Shenmue III being a thing seems like a nice thing to do for their fans as well.

But of course maybe I'm just being too optimistic, because I really loved Sega of the old.
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« Reply #78 on: August 09, 2016, 02:23:19 PM »
I was a SNES tard back in the day, Genesis has better games though.

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« Reply #79 on: August 10, 2016, 06:58:37 PM »
Super Nintendo vs Genesis is pretty easy: Super Nintendo.

I used to be a Genesis person but, you know, I think that was nostalgia and holding the flag for the team more than anything. On inspection, Super Nintendo outclasses Genesis on every single level and it's not even close.

While Sega's slogan during that era was Genesis does what Nintendon't it couldn't be further from the truth. What Genesis does, Super Nintendo does just as good or better. But Genesis rarely if ever does what Super Nintendo does well.

It's mostly in the game library. Sega Genesis mostly had an arcade game and action game emphasis given Sega's arcade roots. It mostly succeeds there. Games like the Shinobi series, Streets of Rage, Gunstar Heroes, Alien Soldier, stuff like that, were excellent on the Genesis. But even then, Super Nintendo has Pocky and Rocky, Ninja Warriors, Wild Guns, Captain Commando;etc. What Genesis does, Super Nintendo does also. Sometimes (in the case of Ninja Warriors) even better. Remember, this is Genesis' cream of the crop as well, and Super Nintendo is still about Even Steven. Even in the 2d shooter category, which Genesis (and its successor the Saturn) is famous for, SNES isn't a slouch. It's probably the one category I'm willing to give the Genesis over the Super Nintendo and even then, Super Nintendo has the likes of Gradius III, R-Type III, Pop ‘n’ Twinbee, Parodius, and Axelay. Again, the Super Nintendo matches Genesis with what it's famous for.

When it comes to platformers it's not even close. Genesis has the occasional platformer that outclasses Super Nintendo equivalent such as Aladdin Genesis or Castlevania Bloodlines being better than IV (but let's be honest, IV is one of the worst CV's, just reality), but Super Nintendo has it beat. Sonic does not compare to Super Mario World and Yoshi's Island. Games like Ristar and Dynamite Headdy are good but not what's on par with what's available on the SFAM. Let's get this out the gate. Adding games likes Demon's Crest, Donkey Kong Country 2, ActRaiser, Doremi Fantasy, the original Umihara Kawase, and Goemon games? The only thing that's approaching SNES quality in this department is probably Rocket Knight Adventures, which for my money is the best Genesis game next to Shinobi III.

RPGS makes this shut and closed. Genesis had good games like Phantasy Star series, and Shining series, you've go the Monster World series which I don't think SFAM has any answer to, and I mean that's about it. Action rpgs like Beyond Oasis and Crusader of Centy are systematically outclassed by what's available on the Super Nintendo games like Terranigma and Illusion of Gaia. Lufia? Chrono Trigger, Dragon Quest I+II, III, V, AND VI? Tactics Ogre LUCT? Ogre Battle? Front Mission? And that's without mentioning the obvous stuff like Seiken Densetsu III, Secret of Mana, Bahamut Lagoon, Live-A-Live, Earthbound,  Final Fantasy IV-VI, Shin Megami Tensei series. The SNES is so lopsided in this category it's a joke to even compare them. When we get into the really niche shit like Popful Mail and Marvelous, like, just end it already - he's already dead.

When we get into just other random shit like The Firemen, you won't see a game like Clock Tower on Genesis. The SNES exclusives like Super Metroid and Zelda: ALTTP make this a blood bath.

Then the multiplatform games are fine on the SNES, which makes it even more harrowing.

In the past recent months I have bought an SNES Mini and modded it to play imports. Buying cheap ass Super Famicom games and the library combined, Genesis isn't even on the same level. Most of its best games are Sega developed and either tight arcade experiences (Shinobi III :bow) or experimental stuff like Ecco the Dolphin. It doesn't have the luxury of Super Nintendo or Super Famicom's vast library diversity. What Genesis does it does very well. The problem is, Super Nintendo does it just as well if not better. They're both complimentary systems, but in the end, I'd choose Super Famicom any day of the week. No nostalgia.

The Super Nintendo is basically the 16 bit ps2. Genesis is probably the equivalent of an Xbox. While Xbox has its fans, most people are going to agree that ps2 demolishes the Xbox. It's not a bad system, but it's no ps2. Super Nintendo is a top 3 system; Sega Genesis is a top 10 system.






























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Re: Is it just me or is the gaming side of this forum pretty dead?
« Reply #80 on: August 10, 2016, 09:54:04 PM »
my pc runs both snes n megadrive emulators for free. leave the comparative essays in 1996 imo

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« Reply #81 on: August 10, 2016, 10:12:43 PM »
Yeah i don't think we, (at least not me) were trying to argue one is necessarily better than the other. I prefer strictly different vs. strictly better, i love the Genesis for it's idiosyncrasies and certain games. I don't have any solid opin about multiplat quality because I was too young to care much, though I remember really liking my friends SNES because SSF2 sounded so good (really obviously better) and the RPGs were so slick. I never had any of the Genesis RPGs, and haven't played them to this day.
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« Reply #82 on: August 10, 2016, 10:24:08 PM »
Oh and answering the og question, i don't contribute because I never contributed much anyway, and I p much only play MTG now which is such a diverse topic and so few people play it here there's no point talking about it
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« Reply #83 on: August 10, 2016, 11:25:00 PM »
my pc runs both snes n megadrive emulators for free. leave the comparative essays in 1996 imo

But I thought the bore was supposed to be a better game discusso than neogaf?



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« Reply #84 on: August 10, 2016, 11:34:58 PM »
Yeah i don't think we, (at least not me) were trying to argue one is necessarily better than the other. I prefer strictly different vs. strictly better, i love the Genesis for it's idiosyncrasies and certain games. I don't have any solid opin about multiplat quality because I was too young to care much, though I remember really liking my friends SNES because SSF2 sounded so good (really obviously better) and the RPGs were so slick. I never had any of the Genesis RPGs, and haven't played them to this day.

If you're interested in Genesis RPGS, play Wonder Boy in Monster World, Monster World IV, Phantasy Star IV, and Shining Force I+II. Every thing else is honestly not required. PSII has aged like milk and has a superior PS2 remake. Crusader of Centy is pretty ok for a Zelda-like but it's nothing compared to something like Alundra, Landstalker sucks, and Beyond Oasis isn't too special.
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« Reply #85 on: August 10, 2016, 11:38:04 PM »
my pc runs both snes n megadrive emulators for free. leave the comparative essays in 1996 imo

But I thought the bore was supposed to be a better game discusso than neogaf?

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no, I think a high effort argument for why one console is categorically better than another is probably better served on gaf tbh.

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« Reply #86 on: August 10, 2016, 11:44:06 PM »
Given the amount of people back into collecting and playing retro systems, it's not as pointless as you think. Some people may be interested in collecting one type or another. And sometimes playing retro games can be expensive. Not everyone pirates like you. :doge I listed great games from both systems. You can pick and choose whichever is your taste from it. It's just my view. For a person who likes to talk about neogaf and its inferior discussion, you sure are a big fan of Censoring (tm) other viewpoints!

Maybe that's why there's less people talking about games on the bore now? Maybe even gaf is better for that purpose these days.
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« Reply #87 on: August 10, 2016, 11:59:09 PM »
tbh I don't really have an opinion on what The Discourse is like at gaf these days as I don't read it, but I suspect it is better for that sort of debate. I will take credit for censoring the bore tho, that's all me.  8)

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« Reply #88 on: August 11, 2016, 01:58:25 AM »
guys it's ok to admit snes is better. Sega lost the war. we don't have to pretend anymore.
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« Reply #89 on: August 11, 2016, 03:25:05 AM »
my pc runs both snes n megadrive emulators for free. leave the comparative essays in 1996 imo
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« Reply #90 on: August 11, 2016, 03:35:45 AM »
I owned both since I was a kid and after going back I do still like the Genesis better. Doesn't really matter, as both are excellent.

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« Reply #91 on: August 11, 2016, 07:31:23 AM »
If you're interested in Genesis RPGS, play Wonder Boy in Monster World, Monster World IV, Phantasy Star IV, and Shining Force I+II. Every thing else is honestly not required. PSII has aged like milk and has a superior PS2 remake. Crusader of Centy is pretty ok for a Zelda-like but it's nothing compared to something like Alundra, Landstalker sucks, and Beyond Oasis isn't too special.

No way.  Landstalker is the best action-RPG on the system.  Amazing, amazing game with some challenging jumping puzzles, only brought down by its terrible, almost non-existent ending.

The people who made Landstalker made Alundra, BTW.  One day I'd like to play Alundra-- I mean, I have it but I don't want to play Working Designs crap.  Did anyone ever do a new translation from the original, unaltered gameplay/difficulty crap by WD, Japanese version?

guys it's ok to admit snes is better. Sega lost the war. we don't have to pretend anymore.

I was totally a Nintendo fan back in the early 90s, but later on after getting to play everything...man.  The Genesis kicked the SNES' ass all over the place and the games have generally aged better, since a lot of them still run faster.  I guess it must have been that blast processing.
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« Reply #92 on: August 11, 2016, 11:29:50 AM »
isometric arpg with a dpad doesn't work lyte and you know that fucking shit so hard and you should play alundra and terranigma instead. landstalker is not better than monster world 3 and 4. it's not even approaching best arpg on the system.

saying that an isometric 2d action rpg slash platformer is the best action rpg on the genesis makes me very very concerned and I need to check your head to see if you've got a fever because I'm really worried.
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« Reply #93 on: August 11, 2016, 11:36:17 AM »
Light Crusader > Landstalker
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« Reply #94 on: August 11, 2016, 11:53:25 AM »
 don't be a weebo purist - the English version of Alundra is great. wd only altered the platforming in a few seconds, iirc to make the penalty for failure less tedious, and they upped boss attack damage while lowering their hp to make fights faster but harder. it plays great and outside of their random corny jokes and some overdone accents, the translation is great of course. play that shit
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« Reply #95 on: August 11, 2016, 11:54:51 AM »
Why would you not play Alundra? Why is lyte edge such a fucking virgin? Get that ass banned, cuck
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« Reply #96 on: August 11, 2016, 12:25:25 PM »
Yep, Alundra is a fantastic game. I still need to play the much less popular sequel some day.

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« Reply #97 on: August 11, 2016, 12:27:16 PM »
not enough doge emojis in the world for that sequel
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« Reply #98 on: August 11, 2016, 12:29:28 PM »
I've only played an hour and a half of Alundra, but the localization was excellent for the most part. Way better than a lot of other stuff around that time.

Soundtrack is also excellent


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« Reply #99 on: August 11, 2016, 12:35:53 PM »
Yep, Alundra is a fantastic game. I still need to play the much less popular sequel some day.

They never made a sequel.
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« Reply #100 on: September 22, 2016, 10:52:27 AM »
isometric arpg with a dpad doesn't work lyte and you know that fucking shit so hard

It works just fine.  Not my fault you suck at those controls.

don't be a weebo purist - the English version of Alundra is great. wd only altered the platforming in a few seconds, iirc to make the penalty for failure less tedious, and they upped boss attack damage while lowering their hp to make fights faster but harder. it plays great and outside of their random corny jokes and some overdone accents, the translation is great of course. play that shit

I've grown to really dislike WD's localizations over the years.  It's not so much the translations/stupid jokes they add so much as it is what they do to change game play.  With Alundra, they fucked around with the difficulty.  Apparently this was to make the game easier, but somehow this was fucked up and IIRC it is generally-considered to be harder, in a bad way, because of what they did.  Is this wrong?

I've never been able to get into the game.  That goes for pretty much all of Climax's games after Landstalker.
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« Reply #101 on: September 22, 2016, 11:26:42 AM »
The final boss battle in Alundra is very intense, otherwise it's not that hard. I remember a really frustrating platforming section, but maybe I was just tired that evening.

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« Reply #102 on: September 22, 2016, 11:43:11 AM »
they reduced boss hp but upped attack power for shorter but harder bosses. like arch says only the final boss is hard, and even then not really. the best sword in the game is only available if you suck and keep dying anyways
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« Reply #103 on: September 22, 2016, 11:44:38 AM »
I'd like to play Ladystalker (that name  :lol) someday.  It was like 80% fan-translated, but never completed.
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« Reply #104 on: September 22, 2016, 03:00:18 PM »
Respond to posts from over a month ago brehs

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« Reply #105 on: September 22, 2016, 03:37:49 PM »
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« Reply #106 on: September 22, 2016, 08:22:55 PM »
I missed all those replies and decided to respond.
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