VOAT Containment Megathread of Trash People for Trash People

[Coax]

If you can't hear others they don't exist

[Boredfrom]

If you can't hear others they don't exist

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That sounds like a good (and depressing) guess.

[Nola]

Milo is a troll and they make him more powerful/"right" by creating this war against him. That kind of activism would best be served against President Little Hands.

 Just imagine if nobody actually gave him attention or treated his shit with importance from the go.

 He'd be like every other shitty speaker that goes to Unis pushing agendas.

Thats the way I see it too.

But if you are going to protest, it's once you cross into the whole "shut this fucker down by any means... for reasons" that you cross into nothing but negative conseuqnces and no real positives as I reason it.

It reminds me of every other GAF thread where the response to "wrong-think" is to try and "mods help" and berate them into submission or exile. Like you haven't achieved anything of value. You haven't convinced anyone, you haven't stopped this person from spreading his views in the world or supporting undesirable politicians. In fact, in all likelihood, you just emboldened them, gave them ammunition against you and made yourself look extreme to most neutral observers who probably could of been swayed with more diplomatic approaches...Or at least shamed in a constructive way.

[Rufus]

if i have kids, i hope by the time they grow up it's cool to be an apathetic waster again.

It's not? Shit.

[clothedmacuser]

A relevant AVclub article that summarizes another article.

http://www.avclub.com/article/it-looks-milo-yiannopoulos-working-out-tucker-max--250272

Holiday is now editor-at-large for the Observer, and he’s written an extensive piece about how his Tucker Max strategy has been adopted by Yiannopoulos, his supporters, and other racist/sexist/alt-right assholes who are trying to spread hate and incite fear. As Holiday explains, they promoted Max’s movie (and his book of the same name) by buying cheap ads that they would call people to complain about, by submitting fake tips about Tucker Max-related controversies to Gawker, and by vandalizing their own billboards to make Tucker Max seem dangerous, subversive, and—most of all—super cool. Holiday is now seeing these same strategies being used to promote Yiannopoulos, and he wants people to recognize how easily they can play right into the hands of these jerks.

Holiday says the trick isn’t to try to take away Yiannopoulos’ platform by protesting his campus talks or whatever, because that will just give his supporters something to rally against. Instead, he suggests actually listening to people like Yiannopoulos and giving them a chance to speak, because then the public will have a chance to hear their awful, hateful ideas and they’ll—hopefully—recognize them as being awful and hateful. Holiday says the sales of Tucker’s books disappeared when the controversy and outrage surrounding him ran its course, so he believes that Yiannopoulos and Nazis like Richard Spencer will eventually get bored or tire themselves out if everyone stops feeding their marketing machines.

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[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Ultimately it's all short sighted to me.  The same shit that they want done to Milo, they don't think it could ever be used against them.  It happened when various people would get doxed during the whole gamergate shit.  They were fine with it when some pud lost his job but when it was one of their own who got doxed and fired, *gasp* it was literal terrorism.  It's fair game for nobody or fair game for everybody.  I'm on the side where nobody should be threatened with violence regardless of political affiliation but that's not the choice people are going with.

This is from the same people who thought Gamergaters were some Emmanuel Goldstein type of figure who were everywhere and anywhere and spent the past several weeks looking for Russkies under their beds.  They're just dumb people.  I don't mean dumb as in I disagree with their opinions, they're just not bright people in general. 

[zepblackstar]

A relevant AVclub article that summarizes another article.

nah, the problem is tucker was just a movie and edgelord, Milo is smart enough to be bombastic but throw in actual events or people who are so over the top, normal people agree with him on certain points.  There is a whole industry just picking on the PC culture especially on college campuses that will fuel him for a long time

[Rahxephon91]

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1343842

Sure that's exactly what happen. Sure it was sold out. How did they have a PS4 all this time and only now thanks to the power of TLG get into gaming and not say Minecraft?

[thisismyusername]

A relevant AVclub article that summarizes another article.

http://www.avclub.com/article/it-looks-milo-yiannopoulos-working-out-tucker-max--250272

Holiday is now editor-at-large for the Observer, and he’s written an extensive piece about how his Tucker Max strategy has been adopted by Yiannopoulos, his supporters, and other racist/sexist/alt-right assholes who are trying to spread hate and incite fear. As Holiday explains, they promoted Max’s movie (and his book of the same name) by buying cheap ads that they would call people to complain about, by submitting fake tips about Tucker Max-related controversies to Gawker, and by vandalizing their own billboards to make Tucker Max seem dangerous, subversive, and—most of all—super cool. Holiday is now seeing these same strategies being used to promote Yiannopoulos, and he wants people to recognize how easily they can play right into the hands of these jerks.

Holiday says the trick isn’t to try to take away Yiannopoulos’ platform by protesting his campus talks or whatever, because that will just give his supporters something to rally against. Instead, he suggests actually listening to people like Yiannopoulos and giving them a chance to speak, because then the public will have a chance to hear their awful, hateful ideas and they’ll—hopefully—recognize them as being awful and hateful. Holiday says the sales of Tucker’s books disappeared when the controversy and outrage surrounding him ran its course, so he believes that Yiannopoulos and Nazis like Richard Spencer will eventually get bored or tire themselves out if everyone stops feeding their marketing machines.

Man, Tucker Max. That's a name I haven't heard in a lonnnnnnnnnnnng time.

[Boredfrom]

A relevant AVclub article that summarizes another article.

nah, the problem is tucker was just a movie and edgelord, Milo is smart enough to be bombastic but throw in actual events or people who are so over the top, normal people agree with him on certain points.  There is a whole industry just picking on the PC culture especially on college campuses that will fuel him for a long time

I wonder why...

[agrajag]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=230277950&postcount=952

How dare you mention the Queen's name?

[Stro]

Hey, man, America has never tried to influence or disrupt another nation's government like Russia is doing to us right now. We'd never use those kind of underhanded tactics we complain about against someone else, as America is the most morally superior nation to ever exist.

[Optimus]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1343815


  EMERGENCY! EMERGENCY! PEWPEWDIE IS A ANTISEMITE!


What a bunch of humorless, dishonest cunts, this actually annoyed the fuck out of me. They smear a guy they don't like because of his anti-SJW views (you know, like every well-adjusted normal individual) even though they KNOW he's making very obvious jokes. I rarely take these assholes seriously anymore but this is disgusting.

[Momo]

Neogaf once again out to prove it's the stupidest place on the internet

[stufte]

Am actually Goebbels. Srry. 

[clothedmacuser]

Hey, man, America has never tried to influence or disrupt another nation's government like Russia is doing to us right now. We'd never use those kind of underhanded tactics we complain about against someone else, as America is the most morally superior nation to ever exist.

Russian troll?  Someone scour his posts for all the anti-hillary remarks he insinuated.

[Stro]

They call me Stromrade.

[VomKriege]

Can't wait for the Untergang video about how it'svstupid to joke on Nazi imagery.

[MMaRsu]

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=230283030

Can someone please tell this clown that in The Netherlands we absolutely do not have seperate bath times for men and women in swimming pools.

[nudemacusers]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=230279501&postcount=58

 

[VomKriege]

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=230284712

MAYBE ONE THAT HAS GIMMICK OF SPEAKING LIKE SILLY BRUTE SHOULD PONDER IF HE IS NOT TURNING INTO HIS JOKE CHARACTER, BY THAT SAME LOGIC.

[thisismyusername]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=230279501&postcount=58

 

On a scale of 1 to 1,000,000... how much does this cut you deep into your soul?

[Optimus]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=230286082&postcount=1110

To be quite honest I'm shocked PDP as a brand/idea is allowed to exist unopposed in 2017. With how on the edge people were last election with political correctness and preaching love, I'm shocked someone like him still had a huge following.

I don't even know where to start. Is this guy completely out of touch with reality or this some kind of weird sarcasm? Love the "It's <current year>" and "allowed to exist" parts too.

[counterhit]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=230286631&postcount=32

What is with this dude and randomly shilling indie games?

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[tiesto]

A relevant AVclub article that summarizes another article.

http://www.avclub.com/article/it-looks-milo-yiannopoulos-working-out-tucker-max--250272

Holiday is now editor-at-large for the Observer, and he’s written an extensive piece about how his Tucker Max strategy has been adopted by Yiannopoulos, his supporters, and other racist/sexist/alt-right assholes who are trying to spread hate and incite fear. As Holiday explains, they promoted Max’s movie (and his book of the same name) by buying cheap ads that they would call people to complain about, by submitting fake tips about Tucker Max-related controversies to Gawker, and by vandalizing their own billboards to make Tucker Max seem dangerous, subversive, and—most of all—super cool. Holiday is now seeing these same strategies being used to promote Yiannopoulos, and he wants people to recognize how easily they can play right into the hands of these jerks.

Holiday says the trick isn’t to try to take away Yiannopoulos’ platform by protesting his campus talks or whatever, because that will just give his supporters something to rally against. Instead, he suggests actually listening to people like Yiannopoulos and giving them a chance to speak, because then the public will have a chance to hear their awful, hateful ideas and they’ll—hopefully—recognize them as being awful and hateful. Holiday says the sales of Tucker’s books disappeared when the controversy and outrage surrounding him ran its course, so he believes that Yiannopoulos and Nazis like Richard Spencer will eventually get bored or tire themselves out if everyone stops feeding their marketing machines.

Man, Tucker Max. That's a name I haven't heard in a lonnnnnnnnnnnng time.

Yeah, what next, Seanbaby and Maddox?

[thisismyusername]

A relevant AVclub article that summarizes another article.

http://www.avclub.com/article/it-looks-milo-yiannopoulos-working-out-tucker-max--250272

Holiday is now editor-at-large for the Observer, and he’s written an extensive piece about how his Tucker Max strategy has been adopted by Yiannopoulos, his supporters, and other racist/sexist/alt-right assholes who are trying to spread hate and incite fear. As Holiday explains, they promoted Max’s movie (and his book of the same name) by buying cheap ads that they would call people to complain about, by submitting fake tips about Tucker Max-related controversies to Gawker, and by vandalizing their own billboards to make Tucker Max seem dangerous, subversive, and—most of all—super cool. Holiday is now seeing these same strategies being used to promote Yiannopoulos, and he wants people to recognize how easily they can play right into the hands of these jerks.

Holiday says the trick isn’t to try to take away Yiannopoulos’ platform by protesting his campus talks or whatever, because that will just give his supporters something to rally against. Instead, he suggests actually listening to people like Yiannopoulos and giving them a chance to speak, because then the public will have a chance to hear their awful, hateful ideas and they’ll—hopefully—recognize them as being awful and hateful. Holiday says the sales of Tucker’s books disappeared when the controversy and outrage surrounding him ran its course, so he believes that Yiannopoulos and Nazis like Richard Spencer will eventually get bored or tire themselves out if everyone stops feeding their marketing machines.

Man, Tucker Max. That's a name I haven't heard in a lonnnnnnnnnnnng time.

Yeah, what next, Seanbaby and Maddox?

Seanbaby is still around, in a way. Maddox as well. I know Tucker Max was huge like 10 years ago and selling books but I haven't honestly heard a peep about a new book or anything from him since.

He apparently published one in like 2014, but I never heard library chatter on picking it up.

[zomgee]

My boss has Tucker Max's "I Hope They Serve Beer In Hell" on his office bookshelf.

[Shuri]

It seems that half of the userbase of neogaf is unemployed due to personal issues

[zomgee]

It seems that half of the userbase of neogaf is unemployed due to personal issues

Can't imagine why.

I feel bad saying this, but does anyone else find kids boring?

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

The userbase is becoming distilled to a scraping-the-bottom-of-the-barrel can't-interact-with-people-unless-I-type-it-out if-it-isn't-about-me-make-it-about-me core that it's no wonder they can't hold a job/date/order food.

[thisismyusername]

It seems that half of the userbase of neogaf is unemployed due to personal issues

Man, I fucking wish I was unemployed at times.

[Boredfrom]

The PDP you tube meltdown seems like a total overkill and hypocritical coming from YT. Maybe is more in the story than "PDP did a bad joke"? But GAF is to stupid to realize that YT throw one of his must successful you tubers under the bus for trying to change his style of humor.

[studyguy]

Who would have guessed an edgy company like Disney wasn't okay with jokes about killing the jews.
It's just a prank brah 

[Rufus]

The PDP you tube meltdown seems like a total overkill and hypocritical coming from YT. Maybe is more in the story than "PDP did a bad joke"? But GAF is to stupid to realize that YT throw one of his must successful you tubers under the bus for trying to change his style of humor.

That show was somehow tied to Disney. Which is strange to begin with, but I suppose this time he went too far for them to want to be associated with him.

[Take My Breh Away]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1343689

You'd expect the hardcore nexus to recognize some pretty blatant Cause marketing and Pink/Diversity Capitalism to produce at least a lengthy Lime post about it, right?

Oh, Sony exclusive. NEVER MIND.

[Klelk]

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?p=230301756#post230301756
Gaf falling for fake shit

[king of the internet]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=230279501&postcount=58

 

Any person who would make the life decision of purchasing one of these and then wearing it was already a lost cause to begin with.

[Let's Cyber]

Ready to feel old?

Seanbaby is 40.

 

[zomgee]

Seanbaby is the only thing good about cracked now.

Top 6 good things about cracked.com

[Joe Molotov]

Ready to feel old?

Seanbaby is 40.

 

That seems pretty young now.

[Let's Cyber]

That seems pretty young now.

You're proving my point. 

 

[bork]

 

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1344056

Well, it's Valentine's Day, the day of love and I'm currently playing Ninja Storm 4 which tells the ending of Naruto's story and while Naruto's final arc had many MANY things wrong with it. (Final villain was such a joke)

At the end of Naruto, there is some of the most random pairings I've ever seen..... but there's one in particular that just pisses me off... makes me so mad... makes my blood BOIL with how bad it is.

Sasuke/Sakura is a goddamn travesty of a love story.

Now... you may ask? It's a silly manga intended for children? How could it be that bad? Oh no, you'll find that Sasuke/Sakura's "love story" might very well be worse than Twilight's. (Yes, we have accomplished that)

Basically, in the early chapters, we're introduced to a basic love triangle: Naruto likes Sakura who likes Sasuke who doesn't care. Obviously, you would think the set-up here is that the main heroine will learn to like the main hero? Well.... more on that later.

Sasuke... treats Sakura very poorly. He ranges from outright apathy to trying to murder her without hesitation. In fact, he cares nothing for her. Sakura continutes to love him inspite of it and I cannot imagine why. In fact, at the end of the story Sakura begs him not to continue his path because she loves him and Sasuke knocks her out with a horrible genjutsu. At the end, Sakura acts like a whimpering little puppy and asks Sasuke to take her with him completely annihilating what character development she had left. (Way to revert her back to being 12 years old Kishimoto)

Meanwhile on the other hand, Kishimoto also continued developing Naruto/Sakura parallels most notably with the characters Jiraya/Tsunade and Minato/Kushina (Naruto's parents) thus indicating that they were supposed to be the endgame couple. Once the series was over, he infamously claimed that this was a deliberate mislead (or did he or did it not plan this, well, Kishimoto's infamous in contradicting himself as to when or if he planned the endgame pairings so believe what you want) But Good God, you may argue that Naruto/Sakura would've been cliche, poorly written, whatever, but y'know what? It would've MADE SENSE, which is something I can never say for Sasuke/Sakura. If Naruto/Sakura had happened, that would've meant that Sasuke ends up alone which is really the only end I could've seen for his character.

The thing is I'm not the only one who hates this pairing, this forum, other forums and even NarutoForums were aghast that this pairing happened. On Kishimoto's thank you page that turned into a complete mess of angry fans attacking him (some of it deserved, some not) I distinctly remember a father writing to Kishimoto and telling him that he had given his two daughters a bad message and that they were done with his work. Yeah. That serious.

What about Naruto Gaiden? The spinoff manga that came out a few months later? Oh well, what about it? You mean the manga that confirmed that Sasuke is a complete deadbeat dad who hasn't seen his daughter her whole life? I almost suspect that at some point between the final chapter and first chapter of Gaiden, Kishimoto looked at Sasuke/Sakura and went "Oh my God.... WHAT HAVE I DONE?!" I almost suspect he hates this pairing as much as I do considering he goes out of his way to make it look bad, here's what he had to say about it in one interview.

[Interviewer: “Who is your favourite character in Naruto?”

>Taniguchi: “It’s Hinata.”

>Kishimoto: “Eh, you like big-breasted girls?” (laugh)

>Taniguchi: “It’s not that.” (laugh) “I like the fact that at the beginning she was a weakling, but due to Naruto’s influence she steadily became strong.”

>Kishimoto: “That’s because Hinata doesn’t stand at the main character’s side like normal heroines*… she’s the type that watches him from the shadows.”

>Interviewer: “I thought the heroine was Sakura?”

>Kishimoto: “That’s right. But Sakura is addicted to Sasuke.” (laugh) “The reason why Hinata came to like Naruto is clear, but I’ve deliberately avoided writing down the reason why Sakura came to like Sasuke.” (laugh) “That’s because somehow, I had the feeling that it would conversely end up sounding contrived.”

Yeah... addicted to him, like a drug, holy crap Kishimoto has no respect for this or any of his ships. How can I respect his work when the author shows such little respect for it himself?

In summation, I hate this love story. LOATHE it and I didn't even think it was possible. If I ever have a daughter, I will never read her this story because of the horrible message it sends. You want a love story worse than Twilight, Sasuke/Sakura is it. Twice the abuse, none of the love. THAT BAD.

[bork]

Scratch that, this post makes the original one look tame:

Just chiming in to say that Naruto/Hinata had been endgame from the beginning according to a recent interview from Kishimoto. Been shipping NaruHina for over a decade now and will continue till I die. Also the "parallels" argument is annoying.

But yeah, Sakura was hilariously mishandled. As a kid I hated Sakura and Sasuke because of how hilariously badly they were written (and how popular they were despite this), but as I've grown up I've realized I just hate bad writing. SasukexSakura can work, just not any way close to how Kishimoto wrote it. After all the shit Sasuke did he shouldn't have gotten off with such crappy apologies, and then being a completely absent father. On top of that, Sakura was written completely pathetically in Gaiden. Kishimoto cannot make me take Sakura seriously.

I've legitimately read Naruto fanfics that do a better job with Sakura (as well as Sasuke).

I know it's a battle manga, but if less time had been spent in never ending battles and power ups, and more time spent on character interaction and development, Naruto could've been genuinely great. As it stands it's just something I have a lot of nostalgia for.

"NaruHina"

[zomgee]

Naruke?

Saruto?

[archie4208]

[stufte]

wats a narudo, brehs?

[helios]

Mods closed such a fun thread

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1344063

[stufte]

Mods closed such a fun thread

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1344063

God I love those kinds of threads. It highlights the ignorance of the work involved in making art and it's satisfying to see the OP get his ass handed to him via shitty photoshops.

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[thisismyusername]

Ready to feel old?

Seanbaby is 40.

 

And has a daughter. I did a literal double-take on his Twitter about that.

[stufte]

Because I can.

[thisismyusername]

pffft, we all know Naruto/Sasuke was the true endgame.

@ you.

@ Tea.

[Boredfrom]

Who would have guessed an edgy company like Disney wasn't okay with jokes about killing the jews.
It's just a prank brah 

PDP is a weird choice for a Disney's company to latch on. Then again, Captain America is currently a cover nazi right now....

[stufte]

Who would have guessed an edgy company like Disney wasn't okay with jokes about killing the jews.
It's just a prank brah 

PDP is a weird choice for a Disney's company to latch on. Then again, Captain America is currently a cover nazi right now....

I mean... they were fine with this kind of stuff:

[etiolate]

internet jokes are fascism

but

A group that uses violence to suppress the speech of those they dislike are the anti-fascists.

1984 is selling and all those kiddies are gonna make it partway through the book before they realize they're the baddies, slam it down and call Orwell a fascist.

[Atramental]

(((Disney)))

 

[nudemacusers]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=230279501&postcount=58

 

On a scale of 1 to 1,000,000... how much does this cut you deep into your soul?

I should have expected it once I read this

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=230275991&postcount=18

[studyguy]

internet jokes are fascism

but

A group that uses violence to suppress the speech of those they dislike are the anti-fascists.

1984 is selling and all those kiddies are gonna make it partway through the book before they realize they're the baddies, slam it down and call Orwell a fascist.

Lot of that shit picked up on NPR with more indepth interview on antifa types talk about them trolling the ever living fuck out of genuine white supremacists. Stalking them online to get them fired, stalking what places they're trying to meet up at so they can call the location ahead of time and get them banned.

Seems like a lot of trouble when all most people want to do is punch a Nazi or two.
 

[stufte]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=230320533&postcount=2

Can some of the white gaffers explain to me why is there so much hatred in the the white community for black people? White supremacy is synonymous with white culture but I never hear white people take responsibility for white racism.

As an official representative of the white community, I can say that most of us don't hate black people, we just want to live our lives, same as you.

[stufte]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=230321165&postcount=994

Eh, Jon Tron is pure evil. Pewdiepie has done some questionable shit, but at least you get the sense it comes from ignorance/privilege rather than hatred.

 

2017, the year of hyperbole.