VOAT Containment Megathread of Trash People for Trash People

[daemon]

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Lol what did I miss

Imagine David Duke in his prime making a post about BishopTL

[Tasty]

DUCKROLL YOU SAID I WOULD BE REMEMBERED AS THE PERSON WHO SAID FF LOST RELEVANCE AND A JOKE.

I told you DUCKROLL!!!!!!

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=226167733

Where's justice? ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I WAS RIGHT!

Also I don't see Aeana in that thread. Aeana likes to throw out that dumb "people hate a game in the series until the latest game is out and then they love it" diatribe overly simplistic hand wringing.

People STILL shit on FFXIII. XV isn't going to suddenly make people like that game!

WHERE'S YOUR GOD NOW AEANA? It's nice that you've finally stopped that awful fucking talking point. Nothing will make people embrace a game with a good battle system and with bad everything else. If your point proved correct people would be fellating XIII and XIV 1.0! They haven't! Hopefully the next time Aeana says this again someone will tell her why and exactly HOW she is wrong so she will never say this awfulness ever again!

The chocobos have come to roost!

Himu... this ain't a good look.

[Tasty]

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Imagine David Duke in his prime making a post about BishopTL

It was just text? 🤔

[daemon]

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Imagine David Duke in his prime making a post about BishopTL

It was just text? 🤔

Yeah just text. The euphoria of Bish losing moderator privileges really got the best of him

[I'm a Puppy!]

You guys all gleeful about Bish when Besada is still out there waddling about.

[4KDennis]

I don't see what was wrong with my post.

Pussies.

[Optimus]

You guys all gleeful about Bish when Besada is still out there waddling about.

One crazy person is better than two.

[bork]

I don't see what was wrong with my post.

Pussies.

[Joe Molotov]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=226098697&postcount=119

(Image removed from quote.)

Is that Motoko Kusanagi?

in his defense, all same-color-hair anime girls pretty much look the same

There's no way, if you have any faint knowledge of his work, that you'd think it's a dialogue from Shirow.

The net is vast and infinite...but not vast enough for you to ever get laid!

[Atramental]

I don't see what was wrong with my post.

Pussies.

Further proof that Trump has normalized racism. 

[VomKriege]

Shirow-senpai

[benjipwns]

Sad to see Evilore in such dire straits financially that he has to start chasing that Brietbart money.

[daycru]

You guys all gleeful about Bish when Besada is still out there waddling about.

His heart will explode soon enough.

[Mr. Nobody]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=226142873&postcount=11054

 

[nudemacusers]

Most of those chicks need to put down the fork

[Great Rumbler]

I don't see what was wrong with my post.

Pussies.

Well...now you'll have plenty of time to think about it before your next post.

[zomgee]

Who will pick up the slack of representation of assholes?

[james]

 

[nudemacusers]

Whatever happened to freedom of expression? 🇺🇸👎🏻

[Rufus]

Died with Creepy Stalker.

[stufte]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=225663256&postcount=5

Christopher Hitchens thread:

"I wonder if he would have yassss queened?"

also:

If Hitchens had posted on GAF when he was alive, he would have been run off and banned within 24 hours.

[Cindi Mayweather]

Christopher Hitchens probably would have voted Trump

[Cindi Mayweather]

DUCKROLL YOU SAID I WOULD BE REMEMBERED AS THE PERSON WHO SAID FF LOST RELEVANCE AND A JOKE.

I told you DUCKROLL!!!!!!

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=226167733

Where's justice? ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I WAS RIGHT!

Also I don't see Aeana in that thread. Aeana likes to throw out that dumb "people hate a game in the series until the latest game is out and then they love it" diatribe overly simplistic hand wringing.

People STILL shit on FFXIII. XV isn't going to suddenly make people like that game!

WHERE'S YOUR GOD NOW AEANA? It's nice that you've finally stopped that awful fucking talking point. Nothing will make people embrace a game with a good battle system and with bad everything else. If your point proved correct people would be fellating XIII and XIV 1.0! They haven't! Hopefully the next time Aeana says this again someone will tell her why and exactly HOW she is wrong so she will never say this awfulness ever again!

The chocobos have come to roost!

Himu... this ain't a good look.

They know I'm playing.

[stufte]

Christopher Hitchens probably would have voted Trump

lol nah.

[Cindi Mayweather]

Hitchens was a racist who hates Arabs. Hillary voted yes on Iraq war, but Trump wants Muslims foreigners barred from entering the country. He'd vote Trump. Hitchens defended Bush's foreign policy post-9/11. He was Bill Maher and Sam Harris on steroids. In light of new threats like ISIS, Hitchens would definitely be down for something similar to Bush foreign policy but in a bigger way to avoid threats.

[Atramental]

Hrrmm. I'd like to think Hitchens would have had a similar stance to Sam Harris's (who voted for Hillary).

[Cindi Mayweather]

Hitchens was far more conservative than Harris to my memory.

[etiolate]

Hitchens had a life experience that better informed his views towards the end of his life. When you call him a racist, you inform us all that you haven't had that journey yet.

I'd recommend watching the debates between Buckley and Hitchens over the years, and Buckley's Debate with Baldwin. All still relevant.

[Cindi Mayweather]

Hmm. I read this in 2008 or 2009 or so. Still relevant.

http://www.alternet.org/story/86358/martin_amis_%26_chris_hitchens%3A_vicious_racism_concealed_by_a_british_accent

Fuck new atheism.

[Nola]

Trump was a racist who hates Arabs. Hillary voted yes on Iraq war, but Trump wants Muslims foreigners barred from entering the country. He'd vote Trump.

Hitchens may be an asshole and had some warped views on Middle East politics, but he was never that simple minded lol.

A lot of his problems with the Clinton's stemmed because he was a self-proclaimed socialist and Clinton signified a shift away from FDR style politics with his triangulation tactics of appealing to the left and then delivering to the right.

He was also a staunch anti-totalitarian and Trump represents a lot of the shit he hated the most throughout his life, I have a hard time thinking Hitchens would be an ally of Trump or a reluctant supporter.

[Cindi Mayweather]

Oh, very much. But the man is dead and we only hypothesize. I am very much familiar with Hitchens' work. But this is 2016, and Trump managed to get support from people who deemed him unfit through pure emotional appeal. A lot of people waved away Trump's faults and I can see him wave away Trump's. I can see Hitchens voting for Bernie in the primary and Trump in the general. But it's a coin toss on whether he'd vote for Hillary. Probably 50/50. I know very much that Hitchens was anti-totalitarianism. But if anything this year proved is that some people fall for that rhetoric. I would think Hitchens would be one such person. I guess I shouldn't say Hitchens wouldn't be 100% a Trump supporter, but I can definitely imagine it happening.

But trying to think how a dead person would have voted is a dumb discussion anyways.

[Nola]

I have a hard time thinking Hitchens would be an ally of Trump or a reluctant supporter.

Srsly.

Queen do you even know who Hitchens was

I mean to be fair his political views late in life did become more narrow, to the point he voted for George Bush in 2004 if I remember correctly.

But he also supported Obama. Denounced McCain and really, really hated Palin for her dangerous ignorance, dishonesty, incompetence and rhetoric....Who is sort of in the mold of Trump, so yeah, thats important to keep in mind. His is not the type of simpleton that would fall for Trump's bullshit.

[Cindi Mayweather]

I have a hard time thinking Hitchens would be an ally of Trump or a reluctant supporter.

Srsly.

Queen do you even know who Hitchens was

I mean to be fair his political views late in life did become more narrow, to the point he voted for George Bush in 2004 if I remember correctly.

But he also supported Obama. Denounced McCain and really, really hated Palin for her dangerous ignorance, dishonesty, incompetence and rhetoric....Who is sort of in the mold of Trump, so yeah, thats important to keep in mind. His is not the type of simpleton that would fall for Trump's bullshit.

Exactly. It's a coin toss at best. 50-50. While a lot of people didn't go for Palin's ignorance, they did go for Trump's. Ignorance can have some appeal if it's articulated in the right way. I can see Hitchens maybe voting for Trump with some caveats. One such caveat is that Hitchens was lgbtq. But a lot of minorities voted for Trump even though it probably wouldn't have favored them.

I would be curious about Htichens' stance on modern identity politics.

[etiolate]

Hmm. I read this in 2008 or 2009 or so. Still relevant.

http://www.alternet.org/story/86358/martin_amis_%26_chris_hitchens%3A_vicious_racism_concealed_by_a_british_accent

Fuck new atheism.

wtf was that

A childish bitchfest without substance. Not a surprise the writer worked for The eXile.

[Let's Cyber]

Hitchens rallied against demagoguery about as much as anything else.  There is a zero percent chance he would have supported Trump.

Edit: If there is one place he might have sided with far right in the current climate, it could be with the immigrant crisis. He definitely had hatred of fundamentalist ideals and especially Wahhabism.  I'd need to go back and do some reading to actually feel confident in saying that, tho.

[Atramental]

Also, he was partially Jewish (the ethnicity not the religion) and blasted antisemites & antisemitism. He probably would've verbally eviscerated Steve Bannon if he were still alive.

[Cindi Mayweather]

I'd pay good money to see that.

Forgot he was partially Jewish. Yeahhhhh, Hitchens wouldn't vote for Trump.

[Nola]

Exactly. It's a coin toss at best. 50-50. While a lot of people didn't go for Palin's ignorance, they did go for Trump's. Ignorance can have some appeal if it's articulated in the right way. I can see Hitchens maybe voting for Trump with some caveats. One such caveat is that Hitchens was lgbtq. But a lot of minorities voted for Trump even though it probably wouldn't have favored them.

I'm honestly not giving it 50/50 haha. I could see Hitchens either stepping outside of the arena and disavowing anyone or reluctantly changing his mind and going Clinton. But Hitchens never fell for Trump's type of bullshit(see Palin). What you describe is people that were susceptible to it I think. Hitchens was a lot of things but he was good at identifying bullshit and their artists.

I would be curious about Htichens' stance on modern identity politics.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB120062413171299477
(Though this seems a bit like those occasional drunk contrarian rants he would occasionally go on to be inflammatory, then one of his more well thought out pieces)

and

Beware of identity politics. I’ll re-phrase that: have nothing to do with identity politics. I remember very well the first time I heard the saying “The Personal Is Political.” It began as a sort of reaction to the defeats and downturns that followed 1968: a consolation prize, as you might say, for people who had missed that year. I knew in my bones that a truly Bad Idea had entered the discourse. Nor was I wrong. People began to stand up at meetings and orate about how they felt, not about what or how they thought, and about who they were rather than what (if anything) they had done or stood for. It became the replication in even less interesting form of the narcissism of the small difference,* because each identity group begat its subgroups and “specificities.”

Ultimately he voted Obama though, citing McCains "lack of temperament" and Palin as "disgraceful" and a "pathological liar" unfit for the job.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/fighting_words/2008/10/vote_for_obama.html

[Nola]

Also, he was partially Jewish (the ethnicity not the religion) and blasted antisemites & antisemitism. He probably would've verbally eviscerated Steve Bannon if he were still alive.

Also very critical of Israel and Zionism.

Trump's rhetoric on moving the embassy in Israel to Jerusalem may have given him an aneurysm if he were alive lol.

But imma bow out, my posts should probably be in the politics thread.

[Mr. Nobody]

Most of those chicks need to put down the fork

More like you need to put down the shame 

[etiolate]

Hitchens had a life experience that better informed his views towards the end of his life. When you call him a racist, you inform us all that you haven't had that journey yet.

I didn't know Hitchens just really hated burkas in Sony's critical darling.

how did we go from Hitchens to Sony

[Your Stalker]

you ever go raw in a fat chick mister nobody?

[Phoenix Dark]

Christopher Hitchens

[Rman]

Christopher Hitchens probably would have voted Trump

LMAO.

No way in hell.

[benjipwns]

Vladimir Lenin probably would have voted Trump.

Actually, probably did. Thanks Russian Hackers™ and Russian Media Propagandists­™.

[Phoenix Dark]

Christopher Hitchens probably would have voted Trump

No.

Hating Islam does not equal hating Arabs.

[Atramental]

But certain liberals would say otherwise...

[Cindi Mayweather]

Lots of people who say they don't hate arabs but hate islam and there's a difference tend to paint all muslims under a wide brush. Isn't Hitchens included with Maher in the "there's no moderate muslims" camp?

I get it, Hitchens made y'all feel better about themselves for growing up in a religious household by being a pedantic cunt about people believing in god. But dude does have shitty thoughts when it comes to muslims and it's funny to me that y'all get your panties twisted when it's pointed out.

Yes he is the kind that said there's no moderate muslim if i remember. he was anti-muslim through and through to the point where it came across as racism to me. but pointing this out is bad, and I really do think he'd vote for Trump based off of that registry promise or at least, change to clinton at the last minute.

[etiolate]

Hitchens tore down Mother Teresa. He attacked the fundamentalism of a literal saint in a mostly Christian country.

But your worried about criticisms of the faith, doctrine and political idealogy prevalent in backward countries that you yourself want to escape from.

Maybe check your pants upon the issue of tight undies.

[Cindi Mayweather]

Hitchens tore down Mother Teresa. He attacked the fundamentalism of a literal saint in a mostly Christian country.

But your worried about criticisms of the faith, doctrine and political idealogy prevalent in backward countries that you yourself want to escape from.

Maybe check your pants upon the issue of tight undies.

Of course my undies are tight. I wear panties. Wearing boy shorts now! Them curve loving panties.

[etiolate]

FWIW, and since I'm the realest mofo/asshole here right now,  Hitchens would have probably said he hopes he dies before having to choose between Hillary or Trump.

[nudemacusers]

What if you just don't like arabs on a sensory level?

[Cindi Mayweather]

Wrath joined the non-belief camp? One of us.

[Cindi Mayweather]

Thought you were on that deist steez.

I hope you have some sort of philosophy you study. Atheism without a philosophy is hollow because all it is a disbelief in God.

[etiolate]

Hitchens tore down Mother Teresa. He attacked the fundamentalism of a literal saint in a mostly Christian country.

But your worried about criticisms of the faith, doctrine and political idealogy prevalent in backward countries that you yourself want to escape from.

Maybe check your pants upon the issue of tight undies.

Dude, I'm not even mad. I am an atheist and I do have a bias against Islam that I've admitted to in the past. So what if he attacked Mother Teresa? I'm in the fuck Mother Teresa camp too but I'm not going to be painting all christians under a wide brush either. We're not talking about attacking religious figures, we're talking about grouping all people in one religion as a certain way. Which to me is how Hitchens always came off.

Why you caping for him so hard, anyway?

I don't cape for Hitchens. I worry about the form of this dishonesty. I challenge this assertion that he is a racist and question where it comes from. Support the accusation. To say people like Harris, Hitchens and Maher are racists when they apply the same scrutiny to Islam that they have applied to all other religious factions is not only a lie and slander, but it reveals a lack of self-awareness.



Do not confuse that with David Duke.

[Cindi Mayweather]

Let's put it this way.

Not all people are who are anti-Muslim are racists.

But there's a certain kind of anti-Islam that comes across as racist.

I, and apparently Wrath, think Hitchens and his ilk the latter.

[benjipwns]

Remember also, Hitch was British. And high enough off in the still odd British caste culture that he went to Oxford despite poor grades.

Even more fun is his younger brother who also started out as a Trotskyite who went way afield starting in the 1980s.

[benjipwns]

everyone loved putting them together:


Probably more relevant:

[benjipwns]

it's also funny how Christopher got welcomed so warmly by the Republican circles in the U.S. during the Bush years, while his super christian, climate change disbelieving, conservative policy supporting brother never did because he opposed the Iraq War and War on Terror in general unlike his brother

[Cindi Mayweather]

There's a chance, with the current political climate, that Hitchens would vote Trump. Just saying.