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bluemax

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« Reply #12420 on: December 17, 2017, 06:33:30 PM »
plz dont post that conspiracy bullshit here :trigger

But it has instructions!
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agrajag

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« Reply #12421 on: December 17, 2017, 06:43:21 PM »
Trump logic: "this investigation is bad for my image, I need to put an end to it." It's as simple as that. If you're still under the illusion that he is some brilliant tactician, I don't know what to tell you  :derp

kingv

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« Reply #12422 on: December 17, 2017, 07:25:10 PM »
Trump logic: "this investigation is bad for my image, I need to put an end to it." It's as simple as that. If you're still under the illusion that he is some brilliant tactician, I don't know what to tell you  :derp

If you believe he is completely innocent, The he tried to obstruct an investigation into a non-crime that he didn’t commit. This shouldn’t make you feel like he’s unlikely to try to fire Mueller.

agrajag

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« Reply #12423 on: December 17, 2017, 07:35:03 PM »
Trump logic: "this investigation is bad for my image, I need to put an end to it." It's as simple as that. If you're still under the illusion that he is some brilliant tactician, I don't know what to tell you  :derp

If you believe he is completely innocent, The he tried to obstruct an investigation into a non-crime that he didn’t commit. This shouldn’t make you feel like he’s unlikely to try to fire Mueller.

That's exactly my point.

MIMIC

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« Reply #12424 on: December 17, 2017, 07:56:38 PM »
I don't think Trump will fire Mueller (or rather put things in motion to fire him), but Trump is really stupid and just doesn't give a fuck. So who knows. All I know is we have at least a little over two more years of this guy

(aka 3 years :()
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etiolate

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« Reply #12425 on: December 17, 2017, 08:19:01 PM »
https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/942517617369153538

I wouldn't put it past Trump to start those rumors just so he can deny them and mock the press once more.

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« Reply #12426 on: December 17, 2017, 09:10:12 PM »
Dunno what's more laughable, people posting Seth Abramson threads of taking Trump's words at face value.
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« Reply #12427 on: December 17, 2017, 10:16:30 PM »
Trump has probably brought up firing Mueller at some point but his aides talked him out of it. With how impulsive he is, I would be surprised if he hadn't at least considered it.
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bluemax

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« Reply #12428 on: December 18, 2017, 01:39:36 AM »
Dunno what's more laughable, people posting Seth Abramson threads of taking Trump's words at face value.

I admit to being ignorant about Abramson, but I figured if I linked it you guys would tell me if it was total bunk or not. I generally roll my eyes at anyone who does a tweet thread to begin with.
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« Reply #12429 on: December 18, 2017, 02:35:40 AM »
TIME FOR SOME GAME THEORY 1/420
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Nola

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« Reply #12430 on: December 18, 2017, 05:14:35 PM »
Dunno what's more laughable, people posting Seth Abramson threads of taking Trump's words at face value.

I admit to being ignorant about Abramson, but I figured if I linked it you guys would tell me if it was total bunk or not. I generally roll my eyes at anyone who does a tweet thread to begin with.

I don't think he is incorrect on the process of how Trump could go about firing Mueller. That all seems to be knowledge that is readily available. The larger implications he mentions are things many people have spoken about if a situation arises where Trump does pull a Nixon and Republicans, well, act like Republicans. So I don't really see anything wrong with the substance of his argument here? With that said, I gave up somewhere around 18/32 or whatever.

I think Abramson is just a guy that plays amateur sleuth too recklessly and has barreled into conspiracy territory regularly. That plus the clickbait headline + Follow the thread 1/42.

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« Reply #12431 on: December 18, 2017, 07:27:25 PM »
IIRC Abramson is one of those dudes involved in fictional journalism or whatever it's called. HA Goodman is another one. He presumably makes good points here or there but from what I've seen/read he goes too far and just makes shit up. Like embellishing various things about true stories, to the point it becomes more of his story than the real story.
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« Reply #12432 on: December 18, 2017, 08:59:15 PM »
EXPERIMENTAL
JOURNALISM
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benjipwns

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« Reply #12433 on: December 18, 2017, 09:15:29 PM »
someone decided to make a segment doing everything they could to encapsulate cable news in ten minutes or less:


*using video from alt right channel because only HD one with the full segment*

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Tucker Carlson has been defeated for split screen smug face making, Robert McDowell new split screen champion
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benjipwns

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« Reply #12434 on: December 19, 2017, 02:53:46 AM »
OPPO DROPPO:
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The top congressional committee investigating Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election has set its sights on the Green Party and its nominee, Jill Stein.

Dennis Trainor Jr., who worked for the Stein campaign from January to August of 2015, says Stein contacted him on Friday saying the Senate Intelligence Committee had requested that the campaign comply with a document search.

Trainor, who served as the campaign’s communications director and acting manager during that time, told BuzzFeed News that he was informed of the committee’s request because during his time on the campaign, his personal cell phone was “a primary point of contact” for those looking to reach Stein or the campaign. That included producers from RT News, the Russian state-funded media company, who booked Stein for several appearances, Trainor said.

“Then I was told by Jill just to wait for further instructions,” Trainor said, adding that he was told the campaign would contact him in the next week with instructions, presumably from the Senate Intelligence Committee, for executing the document search, including precise search terms. That has not happened yet, Trainor said.

When asked Monday what the committee was looking for from the Stein campaign, North Carolina Sen. Richard Burr, the committee’s chairman, responded, "collusion with the Russians." Burr said that the committee is "just starting" its work investigating two campaigns, but did not elaborate.

Stein did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Trainor, who has done on-and-off work for Stein since formally leaving the campaign in 2015, said he is inclined to cooperate with the committee’s request but wants to first seek legal counsel. He said he believes Stein plans to comply as well and post the documents on her own website “in an effort to show complete transparency and kind of wage her own war against [...] what I imagine she thinks is an overblown investigation into collusion.”

Hillary Clinton's 2016 Director of Rapid Response is on the case:
https://twitter.com/Zac_Petkanas/status/942880616357486592

https://twitter.com/Zac_Petkanas/status/942904186945056768

And this other Clinton adviser released a bombshell back in September that seems to confirm exactly what Jack tried to warn us about and all we did was make fun of his Verrit codes:
https://twitter.com/AdamParkhomenko/status/906340798307979264

agrajag

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« Reply #12435 on: December 19, 2017, 10:41:40 AM »
Sanders/Warren 2020

kingv

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« Reply #12436 on: December 19, 2017, 10:41:44 AM »
I sort of like Kamala from what little I currently know about her. I bet she has some crazy skeletons in her closet as a former prosecutor, though.


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« Reply #12438 on: December 19, 2017, 12:19:18 PM »
Cool let’s go ahead and pass it then
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« Reply #12440 on: December 19, 2017, 12:49:52 PM »
That WA train derailment is going to be a finger-pointing bonanza.

You had the engineer going 50 mph over the speed limit on a set of tracks that could have had speed governors installed (preventing human error) but Amtrak kept delaying their installation for years.




shosta

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« Reply #12441 on: December 19, 2017, 03:35:01 PM »
https://twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/943170720317788161


:drudge UPDATE :drudge
https://twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/943180810059993088
Watch a bunch of bullshit. Those are just a bunch of random numbers, of course nobody's going to know them off the top of their head. Imagine you're a legislator and you're in twelve meetings a day and some punk ass bitch asks you to rattle off the first 12 digits of pi. I can barely remember what I had for breakfast this morning. Gotcha shit like this is the most annoying sound in the universe.
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Mandark

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« Reply #12442 on: December 19, 2017, 03:37:26 PM »
actually they are not random

shosta

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« Reply #12443 on: December 19, 2017, 03:38:36 PM »
They might as well be, I can't even remember them after reading them three times.
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Mandark

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« Reply #12444 on: December 19, 2017, 03:40:17 PM »
Okay.

CatsCatsCats

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« Reply #12445 on: December 19, 2017, 03:42:45 PM »
Yeah it’s sort of a big deal to the people writing the law..




Mandark

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« Reply #12446 on: December 19, 2017, 03:48:40 PM »
Yup. The gotcha question here would be "have you read the entire bill?"

The one he was asking was deliberately a simple one.

Mandark

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« Reply #12447 on: December 19, 2017, 03:53:21 PM »
https://twitter.com/SchneiderG/status/943221202969120768


Dems might have just won control of the Virginia General Assembly by literally one vote.

Cindi Mayweather

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« Reply #12448 on: December 19, 2017, 04:02:01 PM »
Hopefully Republicans get fucked in 2018.
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nachobro

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« Reply #12449 on: December 19, 2017, 04:17:46 PM »
They might as well be, I can't even remember them after reading them three times.
how many laws are you writing or voting on daily?

shosta

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« Reply #12450 on: December 19, 2017, 04:27:15 PM »
how many laws are you writing or voting on daily?
I can't remember
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« Reply #12451 on: December 19, 2017, 04:33:17 PM »
The correct phrasing is "I don't recall."

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« Reply #12452 on: December 19, 2017, 05:00:21 PM »
Hopefully Republicans get fucked in 2018.

They know they will. That's why they are pushing this giveaway to the donor class so they can get cushy jobs once they are voted out.
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agrajag

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« Reply #12453 on: December 19, 2017, 05:27:37 PM »
They might as well be, I can't even remember them after reading them three times.

Breh you're trolling right?


benjipwns

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« Reply #12455 on: December 20, 2017, 12:57:50 AM »


i mean how do we know for sure, especially after seth rich :trumps

(can skip like the first minute and a half if need facts asap)

benjipwns

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« Reply #12456 on: December 20, 2017, 02:22:51 AM »
Sad Losing New York Times spreading Fake News Lessons:
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In Virginia, a 11,608-to-11,607 Lesson in the Power of a Single Vote
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The victory by Shelly Simonds, a school board member in Newport News, was a civics lesson in every-vote-counts

benjipwns

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« Reply #12457 on: December 20, 2017, 02:26:56 AM »
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Sen. Susan Collins on Tuesday blasted coverage of her support for the GOP tax bill as “extremely discouraging” and “unbelievably sexist."

The Maine Republican, a key swing vote on the tax package, accused reporters of ignoring her influence over the final legislation and unfairly criticizing her efforts to pass a pair of Obamacare stabilization bills.

“I believe that the coverage has been unbelievably sexist, and I cannot believe that the press would have treated another senator with 20 years of experience as they have treated me,” she told reporters in the Capitol. “They’ve ignored everything that I’ve gotten and written story after story about how I’m duped. How am I duped when all your amendments get accepted?”
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Collins also singled out a report that she said included a line about how she “didn’t cry” during a recent meeting with protesters, many of whom suffer from grave medical conditions. That line was later removed after Collins complained, but not before the story posted online.

“I can’t imagine a reporter writing that about a male senator meeting with the same group, and, in fact, I have proof because they met with [Arizona Sen.] Jeff Flake,” she said. “So it’s been extremely discouraging to see the press coverage on this given the significant impact that I’ve had on this bill.”
Wow at this, Al Franken needs to resign yet again.

Or not?
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At least four senators are urging Al Franken to reconsider resigning, including two who issued statements calling for the resignation two weeks ago and said they now feel remorse over what they feel was a rush to judgment.

...

Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.), who issued a statement calling for Franken's resignation, has since told him privately that he regrets doing so, according to two people familiar with the conversation. Leahy declined to comment.

“I think we acted prematurely, before we had all the facts,” said a third senator who has also called for the resignation, and has since expressed regret directly to Franken. “In retrospect, I think we acted too fast.” The senator asked not to be named because of the political sensitivity of the issue among Democrats.

Two of the senators who issued resignation calls told POLITICO they felt rushed to weigh in, as they were focused on hearings and other meetings and pressure on Franken mounted. In retrospect they said they signed off on statements without the appropriate care and thought.

chronovore

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« Reply #12458 on: December 20, 2017, 02:58:24 AM »
https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/943245831813115904


FWIW, I'm willing to let any Democratic congrescritter ask for Franken's resignation immediately after they make an even stronger demand that Trump resign, as well as any other Republicans who are accused of sexual misconduct. But I will not countenance shitting all over our already embattled position for virtue signaling.

benjipwns

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« Reply #12459 on: December 20, 2017, 03:20:18 AM »
Somebody put this on my list if I'm ever by some horrible fate for mankind President I'm demanding my PDB's come like Denny's kids placemats. It's probably actually a better intelligence developing task for both the agencies to produce it in that format and for me to do a bit of brain training exercises in the morning.

In that CIA book they describe how Reagan and Clinton never read em because the news, especially CNN in Clinton's time, was more up to date on world events than the CIA's brief. And that it'd often have the same story multiple times written by different people because of the way it's produced. If they wanted to know something they'd ask the CIA Director directly or NSA to look into it. (Or in Woolsey's case never speak to them once.)

Apparently Cheney still read em like mad as VP though. Which annoyed both Powell and Rumsfeld.

benjipwns

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« Reply #12460 on: December 20, 2017, 07:40:15 AM »
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House Republicans applauded and cheered after they voted for their long-anticipated tax reform plan Tuesday.

But just hours later, it was revealed they'd have to do the vote all over again Wednesday.

That's because of an arcane Senate procedure known as a "Byrd Bath," where legislation undergoes a review to make sure it complies with the so-called Byrd rule.

The Senate parliamentarian ruled Tuesday afternoon that some changes will need to be made to the House version to make it comply with the Byrd rule, so the Senate will vote on the amended bill Tuesday night, then send it back to the House for a vote Wednesday morning.
And this time 17 more of them might know the tax brackets before voting.

Mandark, come and get your L. :ufup

kingv

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« Reply #12461 on: December 20, 2017, 08:08:58 AM »
I feel like every time Susan Collins is quoted in an article, they should add “Susan Collins, her voice wavering, said...”

I don’t know how people in Maine keep electing her with her horrid voice. She make Diane Rehm  sound like Barack Obama.

seagrams hotsauce

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« Reply #12462 on: December 20, 2017, 11:19:33 AM »
Call not wanting a serial groper to represent your political party "virtue signaling" brehs

sarslip

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« Reply #12463 on: December 20, 2017, 12:25:52 PM »
when dems think trump voters will see beyond their after tax income


Makai

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« Reply #12464 on: December 20, 2017, 01:07:49 PM »
Ta-Nehisi Coates Deletes Twitter Account Amid Feud With Cornel West

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/19/arts/ta-nehisi-coates-deletes-twitter-account-cornel-west.html

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« Reply #12466 on: December 20, 2017, 01:52:05 PM »
A tax cut just before Christmas! I'm going to go get a payday advance loan so that I can start spending this extra cash on some last minute shopping.

etiolate

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« Reply #12467 on: December 20, 2017, 02:26:33 PM »
NY Times is writing about UFO programs and twitter fueds are still getting more clicks.

HardcoreRetro

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« Reply #12468 on: December 21, 2017, 03:42:33 AM »
Ta-Nehisi Coates Deletes Twitter Account Amid Feud With Cornel West

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/19/arts/ta-nehisi-coates-deletes-twitter-account-cornel-west.html

Is this that black on black violence people like talking about?

Trent Dole

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« Reply #12469 on: December 21, 2017, 06:30:15 AM »
These things usually give a temp boost then it all crashes out again.
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« Reply #12470 on: December 21, 2017, 07:42:27 AM »
The corporate tax cut will probably help the economy tbh.

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« Reply #12472 on: December 21, 2017, 10:41:47 AM »
Ta-Nehisi Coates Deletes Twitter Account Amid Feud With Cornel West

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/19/arts/ta-nehisi-coates-deletes-twitter-account-cornel-west.html

Disappointed. West's attack was laughably bad, and I thought Coates handled it well initially. I figured he might write a more comprehensive article to defend himself, and the tweets were just the first salvo. Now it looks like Coates just...disappeared.

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« Reply #12473 on: December 21, 2017, 10:45:56 AM »
The corporate tax cut will probably help the economy tbh.
Depends on what you call the "economy"

Certainly the investor class will do better. But wage growth? # of living wage jobs? Nah. It'll make the current stagflation even worse.
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« Reply #12474 on: December 21, 2017, 11:44:40 AM »
The corporate tax cut will probably help the economy tbh.
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kingv

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« Reply #12475 on: December 21, 2017, 11:48:33 AM »
I work for a privately owned company, and we actually are planning on using the savings from tax cuts for investments.... but for most corporations, they are just going to buy back stock.

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« Reply #12477 on: December 21, 2017, 01:09:22 PM »
Russia and China voted against trump. :noah
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« Reply #12478 on: December 21, 2017, 01:10:51 PM »
The US can always count on Micronesia

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« Reply #12479 on: December 21, 2017, 01:11:53 PM »
Which is the smallest of the nesias.
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