US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[shosta]

Oscar Wilde quote: "If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh or they will kill you." Reminded me of benji. Cheers everyone, happy new year. Especially to Nola, who I feel bad about ignoring every time he makes a good counterpoint. I always mean to respond but end up forgetting about the conversation entirely.

[Joe Molotov]

Oscar Wilde quote: "If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh or they will kill you." Reminded me of benji. Cheers everyone, happy new year. Especially to Nola, who I feel bad about ignoring every time he makes a good counterpoint. I always mean to respond but end up forgetting about the conversation entirely.

Yeah, I’ve seen benji kill several people before, you do not wanna cross that guy.

[Assimilate]

where is benjiiiiiiiiii   

never underestimate someone that can make you laugh and cry at the same time.

one more brazilian fruit drink down the hole 

[VomKriege]

where is benjiiiiiiiiii   

Mueller team got to him.

[shosta]

His activity always drops when a new quarter begins because he has to prepare and teach. Or maybe submitting grades.

[zomgee]

Oh fuck, we're being GRADED?

[VomKriege]

Oh fuck, we're being GRADED?

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Wel all failed except Kara

[close]

[thehunter116]

His activity always drops when a new quarter begins because he has to prepare and teach. Or maybe submitting grades.

OH YES.

An army of Benji's will soon be upon us.

 

[jorma]

I do love that people bring up Sweden when that country locked itself into isolation for years, making it a white ethno state of sorts, and then has war profiteering to thank for its financial basis. Progressive policy success right there.

I'm not sure how to wrap my head around this one. First, we never isolated ourselves. We've been roving all over the world in private enterprise since the viking era. It's just that no one was ever particularly interested in visiting us. Mostly because the "white ethno state" of Sweden was a peasant shithole with no economy, nothing interesting to see and the most distinguished mentally-challenged climate in the free world (besides maybe finland).

Staying of ww2 helped for sure, but we owe our current success almost entirely to a social democrat reign that combined promoting private enterprise with a good social safety net and perhaps most important of all - an actual and honest attempt to create a country with equality of opportunity. A gigantic project called "folkhemmet" that started in the 1930's or so and peaked when Olof Palme was assassinated in 1986.

So now you can post about Swedish financial successes in the future without sounding completely distinguished mentally-challenged.

[Joe Molotov]

Nailed it!

[Broseidon]

The man would take credit for the Sun rising in the morning.

[etiolate]

I do love that people bring up Sweden when that country locked itself into isolation for years, making it a white ethno state of sorts, and then has war profiteering to thank for its financial basis. Progressive policy success right there.

I'm not sure how to wrap my head around this one. First, we never isolated ourselves. We've been roving all over the world in private enterprise since the viking era. It's just that no one was ever particularly interested in visiting us. Mostly because the "white ethno state" of Sweden was a peasant shithole with no economy, nothing interesting to see and the most distinguished mentally-challenged climate in the free world (besides maybe finland).

Staying of ww2 helped for sure, but we owe our current success almost entirely to a social democrat reign that combined promoting private enterprise with a good social safety net and perhaps most important of all - an actual and honest attempt to create a country with equality of opportunity. A gigantic project called "folkhemmet" that started in the 1930's or so and peaked when Olof Palme was assassinated in 1986.

So now you can post about Swedish financial successes in the future without sounding completely distinguished mentally-challenged.

I said war profiteering, which you retranslated as staying out of wars. Nah, I'm talking about selling to the warring countries and allowing their troop movements.

In the Swiss wake, Portugal and Sweden have also arrived in the historical dock. Their governments' apparent lack of interest in the source of the Nazi gold they received in exchange for sales to Germany of tungsten, wood, sardines and iron ore has been widely criticized. As in Switzerland, the suspicion has emerged that they profited from the Nazi conquest, and genocide, and that their neutrality was simply a cloak for connivance.

''Sweden was not neutral, Sweden was weak,'' said Arne Ruth, a Swedish journalist who has written a book on the Third Reich. ''Its sales of iron ore made an important contribution to the German effort. It allowed German troops and weaponry through its territory to Norway. In 1943, its government told the central bank to ignore suspicions that German gold Sweden received was looted. What is interesting is that all these facts, more or less known for some time, are commanding such attention now.''

Your Folkhemmet is based on money made in the wars. That's how you began your welfare state. You had a low population and war profit. The seed of your social democracy comes from there.

Honestly, your "we've been exploring since the Vikings" sounds like some goofy school propaganda. Your country isolated itself from what was going on in the world but still lent out its mining and lumber industry to the war machines to make money in order to afford its welfare state.

You kind of agree, but you don't seem to get it. Your social democrat period is the isolation from world events in any way but profiteering. Your private industry is the profiteering.

[VomKriege]

Isolationism and war profiteering, what does it remind me of ?
At least they got a welfare state out of it.

[shosta]

Ok but the US got nukes and Vegas out of it. Money well spent.

[sinxtanx]

as if Sweden wouldn't have sold that "tungsten, wood, sardines and iron ore" for profits in the hypothetical scenario where there was no war

get money -> tax that shit -> get welfare

I'm so bummed we don't have several generations of homeless veterans stalking the shadows ever watchful and protecting our homeland

[shosta]

Sweden has a higher homelessness rate than the United States (about twice as much).

[sinxtanx]

and they're not pulling their weight, I tell you

too busy receiving aid

edit: I got curious and looked up the most recent report on homelessness in Sweden and damn we have a generous definition
like "renting apartment second hand" generous
so the rate of "acute homelessness" aka "does not have home and lives in car/tent" was less than half
for the US I looked on wikipedia, and the US includes "home instability from hardship and/or domestic violence" in their definition which is similarly generous

anyway I was looking for numbers and the numbers I got was 34,000 / 10,000,000 = 0.34% homeless Sweden as of 2017(most generous available definition), 1,593,150 / 323,000,000 = 0.49% homeless USA as of 2010(most generous available definition)

granted, Obama could have fixed all that in the intervening time

[jorma]

I do love that people bring up Sweden when that country locked itself into isolation for years, making it a white ethno state of sorts, and then has war profiteering to thank for its financial basis. Progressive policy success right there.

I'm not sure how to wrap my head around this one. First, we never isolated ourselves. We've been roving all over the world in private enterprise since the viking era. It's just that no one was ever particularly interested in visiting us. Mostly because the "white ethno state" of Sweden was a peasant shithole with no economy, nothing interesting to see and the most distinguished mentally-challenged climate in the free world (besides maybe finland).

Staying of ww2 helped for sure, but we owe our current success almost entirely to a social democrat reign that combined promoting private enterprise with a good social safety net and perhaps most important of all - an actual and honest attempt to create a country with equality of opportunity. A gigantic project called "folkhemmet" that started in the 1930's or so and peaked when Olof Palme was assassinated in 1986.

So now you can post about Swedish financial successes in the future without sounding completely distinguished mentally-challenged.

I said war profiteering, which you retranslated as staying out of wars. Nah, I'm talking about selling to the warring countries and allowing their troop movements.

In the Swiss wake, Portugal and Sweden have also arrived in the historical dock. Their governments' apparent lack of interest in the source of the Nazi gold they received in exchange for sales to Germany of tungsten, wood, sardines and iron ore has been widely criticized. As in Switzerland, the suspicion has emerged that they profited from the Nazi conquest, and genocide, and that their neutrality was simply a cloak for connivance.

''Sweden was not neutral, Sweden was weak,'' said Arne Ruth, a Swedish journalist who has written a book on the Third Reich. ''Its sales of iron ore made an important contribution to the German effort. It allowed German troops and weaponry through its territory to Norway. In 1943, its government told the central bank to ignore suspicions that German gold Sweden received was looted. What is interesting is that all these facts, more or less known for some time, are commanding such attention now.''

Your Folkhemmet is based on money made in the wars. That's how you began your welfare state. You had a low population and war profit. The seed of your social democracy comes from there.

Honestly, your "we've been exploring since the Vikings" sounds like some goofy school propaganda. Your country isolated itself from what was going on in the world but still lent out its mining and lumber industry to the war machines to make money in order to afford its welfare state.

You kind of agree, but you don't seem to get it. Your social democrat period is the isolation from world events in any way but profiteering. Your private industry is the profiteering.

Your Folkhemmet is based on money made in the wars. That's how you began your welfare state. You had a low population and war profit. The seed of your social democracy comes from there.

But i just told you the basics of how, when and why the welfare state began. Why would you double down like this?

Yes, as i said we profited after the war because much unlike the rest of Europe we weren't bombed back to the stoneage. Our infrastructure was intact. So we got a head start. But folkhemmet had already been a work in progress for 20 years. It didn't begin or end with the war. You seem to want to reduce a multi-generational project to just 5 years during the war? It seems a bit dense to be honest.

So now you can post about Swedish financial successes in the future without sounding completely distinguished mentally-challenged.

I admit i was wrong here though. My bad and i take it back.

And your homeschooling tutor needs to explain the isolationist part a bit better, because i'm all wtf??? here.

[Nintex]

http://twitter.com/thehill/status/948342664856068097

This is the best presidency ever 

"As I said in December, we won't forget the Jerusalem vote," Haley said at a news conference. "To that end, tomorrow night, we are having a reception for the countries who chose not to oppose the U.S. position [on Jerusalem]."



Americans still prefer The Handmaid's Tale over Socialism

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/948347944562053121

[shosta]

and they're not pulling their weight, I tell you

too busy receiving aid

edit: I got curious and looked up the most recent report on homelessness in Sweden and damn we have a generous definition
like "renting apartment second hand" generous
so the rate of "acute homelessness" aka "does not have home and lives in car/tent" was less than half
for the US I looked on wikipedia, and the US includes "home instability from hardship and/or domestic violence" in their definition which is similarly generous

anyway I was looking for numbers and the numbers I got was 34,000 / 10,000,000 = 0.34% homeless Sweden as of 2017(most generous available definition), 1,593,150 / 323,000,000 = 0.49% homeless USA as of 2010(most generous available definition)

granted, Obama could have fixed all that in the intervening time

You could just use the OCED numbers. http://www.oecd.org/els/family/HC3-1-Homeless-population.pdf

There  is  no  internationally  agreed definition of homelessness. Therefore, this  indicator presents a collection of available statistics on homelessness in OECD and EU countries in line with definitions used in national surveys (comparability issues on the data are discussed below). Some countries have different official definitions of homeless: they may use a definition for the purpose of data collection but use another one or several definitions for policy purposes, i.e. in the framework of policy measures aimed at tackling homelessness. In this indicator we refer only to the statistical definition used for data collection purposes.

If you look at the actual criteria later in the paper you'll see the definitions used for homeless in the United States and for Sweden are almost identical (shelters and transitional housing).

[Joe Molotov]

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/948355557022420992

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/948359545767841792

#2018

[Mupepe]

Jfc

[thehunter116]

https://twitter.com/davidgura/status/948380558735953921?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.rawgit.com%2Fs9e%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fmaster%2Fiframe%2Ftwitter.min.html%23948380558735953921


Yep they're guilty...and they're fucked.

[I'm a Puppy!]

So supposedly with Hatch resigning there's a rumor that Mitt Romney might run as his replacement and Steve Bannon has said he'll campaign against Romney. I think Steve Bannon overthinks his power/influence. If Romney should run in Utah, him a favorite son of a strong mormon dynasty? It would take a miracle for him to lose.

[kingv]

Agreed Romney will likely win. The Mormons love him.

Also... if there was a mole in the trump campaign feeding the FBI information, it’s likely this thing is not even close to being done.

[Shrew]

Yo! Yeah, you. Chronovore. You can say "Gay." It's cool. Gay people don't care.

I saw you say "Fuck this Fae Earth" instead of "Fuck this gay earth" earlier, and it was the gayest thing I've ever seen, like gay people would get mad if you said "gay". Fuck me, do you dorks ever hang out with real life people, do understand what real life people go through. We got bills to pay, mouths to feed. Rent to pay. Fuckin online shit. Yo you dudes need to get out on the streets, get in touch. It's good for you I swear, they aren'r\t just symbols you talk about they're people and they're cool.

Hung with a Japanese dude. Didn't give a fuck about anime, he just wanted weed and pussy. Go figure. THE INTERNET LIED TO ME

[Nola]

You seem to want to reduce a multi-generational project to just 5 years during the war? It seems a bit dense to be honest.

Welcome to the world of etoilet...Expect to take many “L’s” along the way.

[seagrams hotsauce]

Yo! Yeah, you. Chronovore. You can say "Gay." It's cool. Gay people don't care.

I saw you say "Fuck this Fae Earth" instead of "Fuck this gay earth" earlier, and it was the gayest thing I've ever seen, like gay people would get mad if you said "gay". Fuck me, do you dorks ever hang out with real life people, do understand what real life people go through. We got bills to pay, mouths to feed. Rent to pay. Fuckin online shit. Yo you dudes need to get out on the streets, get in touch. It's good for you I swear, they aren'r\t just symbols you talk about they're people and they're cool.

Hung with a Japanese dude. Didn't give a fuck about anime, he just wanted weed and pussy. Go figure. THE INTERNET LIED TO ME

What's goin on here buddy

[Shrew]

What's goin on here buddy

It's ok to be gay. And the censorship of that on this forum is childish

"taco"

Just say taco, you fuckin feggits. It's fine. It's not an alt right thing, nobody cares, own it. Where have you been for the past 20 years?

[Shrew]

I mean, really

[Shrew]

Man. Posting on NeoGaf really did a number on you guys

[VomKriege]

Shrew has the BIGGER Button and it WORKS !

[Shrew]

Shrew has the BIGGER Button and it WORKS !

It's true!

I see a bunch of links on this page and I'm like, "Who gives a fuck?"

[Shrew]

and they're not pulling their weight, I tell you

too busy receiving aid

edit: I got curious and looked up the most recent report on homelessness in Sweden and damn we have a generous definition
like "renting apartment second hand" generous
so the rate of "acute homelessness" aka "does not have home and lives in car/tent" was less than half
for the US I looked on wikipedia, and the US includes "home instability from hardship and/or domestic violence" in their definition which is similarly generous

anyway I was looking for numbers and the numbers I got was 34,000 / 10,000,000 = 0.34% homeless Sweden as of 2017(most generous available definition), 1,593,150 / 323,000,000 = 0.49% homeless USA as of 2010(most generous available definition)

granted, Obama could have fixed all that in the intervening time

You could just use the OCED numbers. http://www.oecd.org/els/family/HC3-1-Homeless-population.pdf

There  is  no  internationally  agreed definition of homelessness. Therefore, this  indicator presents a collection of available statistics on homelessness in OECD and EU countries in line with definitions used in national surveys (comparability issues on the data are discussed below). Some countries have different official definitions of homeless: they may use a definition for the purpose of data collection but use another one or several definitions for policy purposes, i.e. in the framework of policy measures aimed at tackling homelessness. In this indicator we refer only to the statistical definition used for data collection purposes.

If you look at the actual criteria later in the paper you'll see the definitions used for homeless in the United States and for Sweden are almost identical (shelters and transitional housing).

who gives a shit outside of people who hate trump

[Shrew]

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/948355557022420992

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/948359545767841792

#2018

Explain to me why I should give shit about this

[Shrew]

For real, have you guys spent the whole year mad about nothing?

[Shrew]

I concur, you guys raise some valid points

[team filler]

 

[shosta]

make this thread great again
ban Shrew

[chronovore]

Yo! Yeah, you. Chronovore. You can say "Gay." It's cool. Gay people don't care.

I saw you say "Fuck this Fae Earth" instead of "Fuck this gay earth" earlier, and it was the gayest thing I've ever seen, like gay people would get mad if you said "gay". Fuck me, do you dorks ever hang out with real life people, do understand what real life people go through. We got bills to pay, mouths to feed. Rent to pay. Fuckin online shit. Yo you dudes need to get out on the streets, get in touch. It's good for you I swear, they aren'r\t just symbols you talk about they're people and they're cool.

Hung with a Japanese dude. Didn't give a fuck about anime, he just wanted weed and pussy. Go figure. THE INTERNET LIED TO ME

Easy, son.

[seagrams hotsauce]

The decline in quality of lunatics from Creepy Stalker to novid to this guy is really disappointing tbh

[VomKriege]

Quality of lunatics has been down since Neil Armstrong.

[Brehvolution]

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/948195478428102657

WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCK

With this logic, he's responsible for the thousands of gun related deaths.

[Nola]

Donald Trump’s former chief strategist Steve Bannon has described the Trump Tower meeting between the president’s son and a group of Russians during the 2016 election campaign as “treasonous” and “unpatriotic”, according to an explosive new book seen by the Guardian.

Bannon, speaking to author Michael Wolff, warned that the investigation into alleged collusion with the Kremlin will focus on money laundering and predicted: “They’re going to crack Don Junior like an egg on national TV.”

He is particularly scathing about a June 2016 meeting involving Trump’s son Donald Jr, son-in-law Jared Kushner, then campaign chairman Paul Manafort and Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya at Trump Tower in New York.

“Even if you thought that this was not treasonous, or unpatriotic, or bad shit, and I happen to think it’s all of that, you should have called the FBI immediately.”

Bannon went on, Wolff writes, to say that if any such meeting had to take place, it should have been set up “in a Holiday Inn in Manchester, New Hampshire, with your lawyers who meet with these people”. Any information, he said, could then be “dump[ed] … down to Breitbart or something like that, or maybe some other more legitimate publication”.

Bannon added: “You never see it, you never know it, because you don’t need to … But that’s the brain trust that they had.”

“You realise where this is going,” he is quoted as saying. “This is all about money laundering. Mueller chose [senior prosecutor Andrew] Weissmann first and he is a money-laundering guy. Their path to fucking Trump goes right through Paul Manafort, Don Jr and Jared Kushner … It’s as plain as a hair on your face.”

Last month it was reported that federal prosecutors had subpoenaed records from Deutsche Bank, the German financial institution that has lent hundreds of millions of dollars to the Kushner property empire. Bannon continues: “It goes through Deutsche Bank and all the Kushner shit. The Kushner shit is greasy. They’re going to go right through that. They’re going to roll those two guys up and say play me or trade me.”

Scorning apparent White House insouciance, Bannon reaches for a hurricane metaphor: “They’re sitting on a beach trying to stop a Category Five.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/03/donald-trump-russia-steve-bannon-michael-wolff?CMP=share

Fusion GPS also has a story to tell it would seem.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/01/02/opinion/republicans-investigation-fusion-gps.html




Rats on a sinking ship? A moment of honesty from America’s greatest political strategist? Quotes soon to be labeled  fake news by the purveyors of honest journalism? The last gasp from the libs overcompensating for Hillary’s loss before the real story of Seth Rich and Uranium One breaks through?

[I'm a Puppy!]

Shrew, we've been trolled worse by far better.

[agrajag]

Leper this filth

[Great Rumbler]

https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/948619779790827520

[thehunter116]

Agy I'm serious your avatar legit triggers me.

 

Go pack to the pussy one. That one was pure win.

[thehunter116]

And now Trump and Bannon turn against one another.


The Sith always destroy themselves.

[Joe Molotov]

Is it too late for Breitbart to make the 2017 Fake News Awards (to be announced Monday) or could there be a last minute addition to the ballot?

[thehunter116]

[agrajag]

Agy I'm serious your avatar legit triggers me.

 

Go pack to the pussy one. That one was pure win.

I am not defined by my avatars!!

[thehunter116]

[agrajag]

letthemfight.gif

[Brehvolution]

"... the most talented field ever assembled by the republican party."

That's talent?

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

"... the most talented field ever assembled by the republican party."

That's talent?

I mean they did have a Serial Killer, Guac Master, Waterboy, Baby Hitler savior and Jim Gilmore.

[thehunter116]

Dear god 2018 is off to a bombastic start.

[Joe Molotov]

Deep State Steve Bannon 

[zomgee]

So, uh... what's the end goal here? Bannon wouldn't just say this crap without a benefit to himself.

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

So, uh... what's the end goal here? Bannon wouldn't just say this crap without a benefit to himself.

I'm pretty sure all the recent Bannon quotes are stuff he said while working at the White House. Shit's about to get a lot more raw.