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« Reply #13920 on: January 30, 2018, 03:17:54 PM »
General Kelley: “Please don’t take anything the President said as asking you to do something illegal or unethical”

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« Reply #13921 on: January 30, 2018, 03:49:05 PM »

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« Reply #13922 on: January 30, 2018, 03:57:45 PM »
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« Reply #13923 on: January 30, 2018, 03:59:12 PM »
dunno who takes a bigger L here, Hillary or Jack Remington
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« Reply #13924 on: January 30, 2018, 04:27:27 PM »
What about Bills accusers Hillmoney?

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« Reply #13925 on: January 30, 2018, 04:28:54 PM »
You misogynist Hillary haters just can't stop attacking the woman as she tries to live a private life. I'll let Peter break this down for you in detail later if he hasn't already, but note that Hillary says "[women] deserve to be heard" and that's all. Her taking the concerns seriously and addressing them is above and beyond and exactly the type of thing the most qualified human being in history would demand of her staff.

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« Reply #13926 on: January 30, 2018, 04:46:40 PM »
General Kelley: “Please don’t take anything the President said as asking you to do something illegal or unethical”
I'd like to point out that again this was, in some people's view, H. R. Haldeman's primary job.

Nixon was prone to his paranoid crazy and utterly illegal ideas that he came up with on the spot and would order people to do. But those close to the President knew he was just ranting and often would never even remember the conversation let alone his orders. Haldeman, and Ehrlichman (and occasionally Pat Buchanan), adopted a policy of pushing back at Nixon to see if he was in the state of mind to drop it and if he was locked in on the idea just saying they'd take care of it, then doing nothing about it or even mentioning it to anyone. That solved 90% of the problems.

This gatekeeper system had only a couple flaws, one was that Kissinger did everything he could to circumvent it and even though Nixon hated him and distrusted him to the point of that being part of the entire reason the Oval Office switched from a manual to an automatic system of recording (also Nixon never remembered to turn it on...this was all after him ordering the entire thing ripped out upon taking office) ol Henry would walk Nixon into musing and then use it to go do his own thing claiming authority. (Ford, Rumsfeld and Cheney upon taking office as President/Chief of Staff/Deputy immediately identified Kissinger's behavior as the biggest problem they had internally and when they demanded Kissinger show up on time he threatened to resign (this was his usual strategy) and TELL ALL but Ford called his bluff... it's also why Kissinger started wandering around the world trying to solve random civil wars as they were happy to have him out of Washington.) The other flaw was that if it broke down, and there's literally no explanation that I've even seen made as to how some of these happened, ideas like breaking into Ellsberg's medical records could get past the gate. I suspect that Watergate for example, was far more of a campaign operation which was borderline unchecked and run by people like Liddy, which was why Nixon and Hadleman didn't know about it. And Hadleman and Ehrlichman must have uncharacteristically bungled cleaning up the mess. Or it was just snowballing too fast for the era. Or like Nixon, they were more afraid of the other stuff that was on the tapes.



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« Reply #13930 on: January 30, 2018, 05:14:24 PM »

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« Reply #13931 on: January 30, 2018, 05:17:07 PM »
I'm pretty sure President Camacho was going to crush Not Sure with a monster truck for not solving the crop problem pretty much overnight.

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« Reply #13932 on: January 30, 2018, 05:25:14 PM »
lol more L's being handed out to the social studies warrior academia post-modernist pre-post-irony libtards throwing their parents money away on immigrant studies when they could watch J. R. R. Tolkein and Drew Peterson political lectures on YouTube for free


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« Reply #13933 on: January 30, 2018, 05:51:57 PM »
People are really getting way too dramatic about the potential release of the Nunes memo.

The only way it's halfway relevant is if it manages to give Trump cover to fire Mueller, or fire Rosenstein and then fire Mueller.

The findings themselves are going to be met with a collective yawn by most of the general public and by the MSM. Nunes has zero credibility. Republicans on social media and whatnot have this fantasy that the memo is going to destroy the Democratic Party and get Obama arrested. I'm sure that's a fun fantasy to have, but it has as much chance of happening as me joining the NBA.

I'm barely even following the memo situation, because it's really unimportant. Unless, again, it leads to a Mueller firing.

Says increasingly nervous man for the seventh time this year  :doge

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« Reply #13934 on: January 30, 2018, 05:52:55 PM »
I agree with Jack on this one but maybe for a slightly different reason. The bar for disinformation is so low that outright lies and conspiracies pass muster now on the usual channels (Judge Jeanine, Hannity, Carlson) and get light airplay on the actual news, so it's not like a selective and partisan memo is really all that dangerous in comparison to what the news has looked like for a  couple of years now.
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« Reply #13935 on: January 30, 2018, 06:17:25 PM »
I think we're all missing the real story here though. All 535 members of Congress and their staffs have had access to this FOUR PAGE memo for weeks and it hasn't leaked in the slightest. It's this kind of bipartisan cooperation that keeps me up at night.

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« Reply #13936 on: January 30, 2018, 06:24:01 PM »
I agree with Jack on this one but maybe for a slightly different reason. The bar for disinformation is so low that outright lies and conspiracies pass muster now on the usual channels (Judge Jeanine, Hannity, Carlson) and get light airplay on the actual news, so it's not like a selective and partisan memo is really all that dangerous in comparison to what the news has looked like for a  couple of years now.

This is exactly right. Over the last 4-5 months, right-wing media has done a very impressive coordinated messaging job establishing the narrative that the real scandal is Obama using a fake dossier to get a fraudulent warrant to spy on the Trump campaign, and that Mueller, Comey and everyone who has ever investigated Trump is in on this conspiracy.

This narrative has reached an absolute fever-pitch in right-wing circles over the last 2 months or so, but it's still entirely confined to those circles, and there's nothing really in the realm of possibility that is going to change that.

Basically this is nothing Trump’s base doesn’t already believe, and it’s not going to convince anyone else.

The problem is, much like how these tactics manifested themselves in the 8 years under Obama, especially with the ACA, no one conspiracy or attack really does anyone in, its the collective narrative they carry that has and does often find ways of breaking out into the general public and influencing public opinion in the direction they want it to.

Back in March Quinnipiac polls were showing that roughly half of Republicans supported investigations into the Trump campaign and Russian interference. Today, it is something like 83% of Republicans think it is a witch hunt. Public opinion on the Russia investigation is getting closer to an even split. Whereas earlier in 2017 you had something closing in on 70-80% support in many polls.

So they are successfully fermenting this into a near unified party position. Which creates a lot more cover for Trump to take drastic actions like potentially firing Rod Rosenstein, and for his party to be hesitant to speak out against any actions he may take to further obstruct the investigation. Or hold him accountable for any abuse of power.


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« Reply #13937 on: January 30, 2018, 06:24:49 PM »
Benji: I agree with you that snowballing should be done slowly and savored. It’s kind of humorous that this is what qualifies as legal cover for the Trump administration, and makes you wonder what the endgame is here? I guess maybe tgeyre are just hoping his terrible cholesterol catches up to him before 2020.

Everyone else:
Interestingly with the memo, Trump has started to become his own worst enemy.its actually starting to get to the point where the obstruction is actually worse than the crime. He probably could have weather the Russia investigation as political inexperience if he helped get to the bottom of it and then pivoted to a hard line stance with Russia but the memo is going to prove to be more headache than TS worth.

1) because it’s not going to sway opinions much
2)it’s going to make his base call for jailing mueller, putting the entire Republican caucus in a terrible position politically trying to run away from this whole defending it
3) I question the wisdom of tying the campaign more closely to Carter Page, who is not a particularly sympathetic figure and is probably the most clearly shady member of the campaign. I think clinging to him to closely is foolish.

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« Reply #13938 on: January 30, 2018, 06:35:37 PM »
I think one of the greatest ironies is that the people who envisioned the world wide web like Douglas Engelbart, Alan Kay, Ted Nelson, and Tim Berners Lee really intended that it would be a tool of mass education and in Nelson's case actually mass liberation for people, because publishing would no longer be the tightly controlled chokepoint for information and the democratization of knowledge would be a self reinforcing bulwark against government and corporate propaganda (consider that at the time, people like Saul Alinsky were interested in the problem of having adequate channels of communication among radicals). And while that's true, it also turned out to lower the cost of propaganda and disinformation to zero. In the past, if I wanted to read communist literature, I had to go to the right bookstore that I only found out about at the right university. Or your crazy friend Bernie Sanders who had a honey moon in the soviet union lended you his annotated copy. Now YouTube has an algorithm that automatically services you with the things which are most likely to reinforce your beliefs. And Twitter, etc.

This is pretty much exactly what Neil Postman meant by how all technology had serious unintended consequences, even consequences opposite of original intention, and the internet should come with a surgeon general's warning.

It's not like it was totally unforseen, though. When Bill Clinton was pimping the internet, he'd say something like "this will give us thousands of new TV channels to choose from," to which the natural, thinking reply is "do we actually need that?"
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« Reply #13939 on: January 30, 2018, 07:27:19 PM »
Some rumors going around that Trump might do some fuckery with North Korea.
US apparently has plans to evacuate civilian staff from South Korea and they're going to appoint another ambassador because the guy they picked first wasn't really on board with a strike on NK.
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« Reply #13940 on: January 30, 2018, 07:28:50 PM »
Bullshit.
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« Reply #13941 on: January 30, 2018, 07:31:41 PM »
Bullshit.
Seems to be based on the fact that Bush once did some Iraq things during the SOTU or something.
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« Reply #13942 on: January 30, 2018, 07:35:14 PM »
In other words, utter nonsensical speculation. There is a difference between a rumor and a paranoid fantasy.
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« Reply #13944 on: January 30, 2018, 07:48:57 PM »
What if, halfway through the speech, he reached behind the podium and produced the atomic football and then launched nuclear missiles against North Korea? :ohhh
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« Reply #13945 on: January 30, 2018, 07:51:37 PM »
Strong I can believe, but serious?  :foodcourt
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« Reply #13946 on: January 30, 2018, 08:22:15 PM »
What if, halfway through the speech, he loudly and violently shit his pants and collapsed with a stroke?

Would that make you happy because you hate him or because it would remind you of your girl?

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« Reply #13947 on: January 30, 2018, 08:26:06 PM »
What if, halfway through the speech, he reached behind the podium and produced the atomic football and then launched nuclear missiles against North Korea? :ohhh

"Stop it, Congressman ? Do you think I'm a villain from a Republic serial ? I ordered the nuclear attack on Pyongyang 25mn ago... To be carried in two weeks."
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« Reply #13948 on: January 30, 2018, 08:34:34 PM »
What if, halfway through the speech, he loudly and violently shit his pants and collapsed with a stroke?

Would that make you happy because you hate him or because it would remind you of your girl?

I think you have me confused with someone else.

your girl hillary

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« Reply #13949 on: January 30, 2018, 08:39:38 PM »
What if, halfway through the speech, he loudly and violently shit his pants and collapsed with a stroke?

Would that make you happy because you hate him or because it would remind you of your girl?

I think you have me confused with someone else.

80% of Registered Democrats would have gotten that joke.
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« Reply #13950 on: January 30, 2018, 09:07:45 PM »
a heat stroke joke is like the lowest bar for a Hillary jab and Jack still didn't get it because nothing she does is risible to him
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« Reply #13951 on: January 30, 2018, 09:10:05 PM »
when will this clapping end
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« Reply #13952 on: January 30, 2018, 09:11:00 PM »
'perven-senting to you'?
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« Reply #13953 on: January 30, 2018, 09:15:11 PM »
$10 bucks says we get a Joe Wilson event tonight

all these murrican heroes  :american

FUCK sit down, Scalise, all you did was get shot
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« Reply #13954 on: January 30, 2018, 09:15:58 PM »
I'm not watching that shit  :nope

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« Reply #13955 on: January 30, 2018, 09:16:26 PM »
In other words, utter nonsensical speculation. There is a difference between a rumor and a paranoid fantasy.

You don’t exactly have a strong record on what Trump will do and what is delusional fantasy. Heck, last time you made a similar pronouncement you were already wrong as the words left your fingers  :P

... I doubt he is going to launch missiles mid speech either. Though I would not be surprised to find out that he has already tried to attack North Korea and SECDEF just ignored him.

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« Reply #13956 on: January 30, 2018, 09:19:10 PM »
AIN'T NO MOUNTAIN HIGH ENOUGH
AIN'T NO VALLEY LOW ENOUGH
AIN'T NO RIVER WIDE ENOUGH
You don’t exactly have a strong record on what Trump will do and what is delusional fantasy. Heck, last time you made a similar pronouncement you were already wrong as the words left your fingers  :P
I was wrong about one thing so far, wait for a larger sample size.
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« Reply #13957 on: January 30, 2018, 09:19:59 PM »
Jack Remington and Shostakovich both saying that the memo is no big deal means Rosenstein and Mueller firing is imminent.

Shostakovich saying Trump starting shit with NK is nonsensic speculation means nuclear winter is imminent.  :doge

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« Reply #13958 on: January 30, 2018, 09:20:14 PM »
"African American unemployment stands at the lowest level ever recorded."
White guy in background: "AAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!! :D"
Shostakovich saying Trump starting shit with NK is nonsensic speculation means nuclear winter is imminent.  :doge
this must be what bill kristol feels like...
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« Reply #13959 on: January 30, 2018, 09:20:55 PM »
Oh good you are giving us play by play

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« Reply #13960 on: January 30, 2018, 09:23:25 PM »
AIN'T NO MOUNTAIN HIGH ENOUGH
AIN'T NO VALLEY LOW ENOUGH
AIN'T NO RIVER WIDE ENOUGH
You don’t exactly have a strong record on what Trump will do and what is delusional fantasy. Heck, last time you made a similar pronouncement you were already wrong as the words left your fingers  :P
I was wrong about one thing so far, wait for a larger sample size.

You were wrong in 100% of your pronouncements vis-a-vis Trump being dumb enough to fire Mueller. But, to be fair, you were correct in 100% of your follow-up pronouncements vis-a-vis Trump being the dumbest fucking president ever.

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« Reply #13961 on: January 30, 2018, 09:42:25 PM »
uhhh Trump promising to fix high drug prices?
"Prices will come down substantially. Watch."
*chuckles from the audience*
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« Reply #13962 on: January 30, 2018, 09:54:44 PM »
What if, halfway through the speech, he reached behind the podium and produced the atomic football and then launched nuclear missiles against North Korea? :ohhh
Trump: Jobs! We have lots of jobs, the very best jobs!
*Standing ovation*
Trump: Veterans! The veterans are great, very good people.
*Standing ovation*
Trump: In God We Trust! I love the bible!
*Standing Ovation*
Trump: Tax cuts! The biggest and best tax cuts of all time
*Standing ovation*
Trump: Nuking North Korea! Very bad people over there. Need to be dealt with.
*mostly silence, spattering of nervous laughter*
Trump: It's already done. We're using nuclear weapons against North Korea
Chuck Schumer: BUT YOU CAN'T! WE WON'T LET YOU!
Trump: Do you seriously think I'd explain my master-stroke if there remained the slightest chance of you affecting its outcome? I did it thirty-five minutes ago.

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« Reply #13963 on: January 30, 2018, 10:09:05 PM »
Seems like they're all just stretching this story to its limit
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/disagreement-on-north-korea-policy-could-derail-white-house-choice-for-ambassador-to-south-korea/2018/01/30/3a21191c-05da-11e8-94e8-e8b8600ade23_story.html

and this tweet
https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/958403727429455872

What you think, you gettin' girls now ‘cause of your looks?
Negro, please! You no-mustache-havin'
With whiskers like a rat, compared to Kim Jong-il you wack
And your man jumped the DMZ and made you take the blame
You ass, went from Rodman to begging for LeBron James
To Carter, to Clinton – and China almost murdered you on your own shit
You a dick-ridin' taco, you love the attention
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« Reply #13964 on: January 30, 2018, 10:19:16 PM »
Making Guantanamo Bay Great Again
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« Reply #13965 on: January 30, 2018, 10:23:27 PM »
Has he been drinking lean? Why is he slurring so bad?

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« Reply #13966 on: January 30, 2018, 10:58:26 PM »
Has he been drinking lean? Why is he slurring so bad?

The crash from consuming cases of Diet Coke and Fox News on a daily basis?

Second thought, dentures?


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« Reply #13967 on: January 31, 2018, 12:16:59 AM »
This 239 lb specimen of health does not have dentures. Obama's doctor told us.

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« Reply #13968 on: January 31, 2018, 01:41:18 AM »
his stream got doxed by russian nazi wikipedia bots

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« Reply #13969 on: January 31, 2018, 01:47:11 AM »
In other words, utter nonsensical speculation. There is a difference between a rumor and a paranoid fantasy.

The administration's choice for ambassador to South Korea is "no longer under consideration" because he's opposed to considering a preventative military strike against North Korea. He wrote an op-ed about it here.

Hopefully they'll decide against it and it won't come to anything, but not terribly reassuring.

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« Reply #13971 on: January 31, 2018, 02:31:03 AM »
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Washington (CNN)Almost half of Americans who watched President Donald Trump's first State of the Union address -- 48% -- say they had a "very positive" impression of the speech, down from 57% of speech-watchers after his first address to match Barack Obama's rating after his first State of the Union address, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS.
what % of readers have a "very positive" impression of CNN's ability to write coherent opening sentences?

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« Reply #13972 on: January 31, 2018, 03:11:40 AM »
Has Bernie given his SOTU rebuttal yet? Honestly I'm hoping the old codger blows Cheeto out of the water. He's probably the best person to do it.


Democrats decided they had to top the GOP's three responses the other year I guess...
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He’ll also have to compete with four other unofficial responses from other Democrats, which has some on the left worried the party still hasn’t developed a unifying message more than one year after losing the 2016 presidential election.

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Freshman Virginia House Del. Elizabeth Guzman will deliver the Spanish-language response. Guzman, one of 11 Democratic women who won seats in Virginia’s House of Delegates last November, told the Washington Post that her speech would feature “a little fire, a little spice.”

Others on the left will likely tune into the unofficial response given by 2016 hopeful Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-VT., which will air after Kennedy’s speech on his social media channels.

Sanders’ speech has further fueled speculation of a possible 2020 presidential bid
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As if the Kennedy, Guzman and Sanders responses aren’t enough, former Democratic Maryland Rep. Donna Edwards will also speak on behalf of the Working Families Party. Edwards said in a tweet Monday that she wasn’t trying to create a rift on the left.

The different Democratic responses have the “same message, different voices, all calling out this President and his dangerous, destructive, and divisive agenda. More power to progressive voices mobilizing for the fight ahead,” Edwards said.

Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., a fierce critic of the Trump administration, is also scheduled to give her rebuttal to the State of the Union in a Wednesday night special on BET.

Thankfully, one didn't need to even watch it to get reviews of Kennedy's official response hours before it happened and what it means for Democrats:
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Picking the scion of a political dynasty demonstrates the party’s “disinterest in the mood of their own grassroots base,” said Maria Svart, the national director of the group Democratic Socialists of America.
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In a statement to the PBS NewsHour on Tuesday, DCCC Chairman Ben Ray Luján said Kennedy’s “powerful message resonates with all voters.”

“Congressman Kennedy is an inspiring leader who has a unique ability to break down complex policy issues and connect with our hearts and souls,” Luján said.
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Kennedy is one of a number of Democrats whose name has been floated as a potential 2020 contender to take on Trump.
wow our souls connected to complex policy! John Kerry/Joe Kennedy 2020!

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« Reply #13973 on: January 31, 2018, 05:58:13 AM »
The administration's choice for ambassador to South Korea is "no longer under consideration" because he's opposed to considering a preventative military strike against North Korea. He wrote an op-ed about it here.

Hopefully they'll decide against it and it won't come to anything, but not terribly reassuring.
I'm not talking about mobilizing for war, I was talking about the specific claim that Trump would launch an attack during the State of the Union:
Seems to be based on the fact that Bush once did some Iraq things during the SOTU or something.
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« Reply #13974 on: January 31, 2018, 08:47:19 AM »
Had a dream Mila Kunis was in the 2020 Democratic primary. :doge

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« Reply #13975 on: January 31, 2018, 08:56:49 AM »
What if, halfway through the speech, he reached behind the podium and produced the atomic football and then launched nuclear missiles against North Korea? :ohhh
Trump: Jobs! We have lots of jobs, the very best jobs!
*Standing ovation*
Trump: Veterans! The veterans are great, very good people.
*Standing ovation*
Trump: In God We Trust! I love the bible!
*Standing Ovation*
Trump: Tax cuts! The biggest and best tax cuts of all time
*Standing ovation*
Trump: Nuking North Korea! Very bad people over there. Need to be dealt with.
*mostly silence, spattering of nervous laughter*
Trump: It's already done. We're using nuclear weapons against North Korea
Chuck Schumer: BUT YOU CAN'T! WE WON'T LET YOU!
Trump: Do you seriously think I'd explain my master-stroke if there remained the slightest chance of you affecting its outcome? I did it thirty-five minutes ago.

 :trumps

Schumer: Well? What are you waiting for? Do it. DO IT!

Pence:

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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| The #benjishutdown is over!
« Reply #13976 on: January 31, 2018, 09:12:52 AM »
I would just point out that my record isn't that bad. I predicted Trump would win the nomination when PD and Mandark said he wouldn't win a single primary.

Edit: I had around $500 on Trump winning the nomination while PD was still saying he wouldn't even get one primary.

Let's not forget your 160 IQ, either!

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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| The #benjishutdown is over!
« Reply #13977 on: January 31, 2018, 09:21:21 AM »
I would just point out that my record isn't that bad. I predicted Trump would win the nomination when PD and Mandark said he wouldn't win a single primary.

Edit: I had around $500 on Trump winning the nomination while PD was still saying he wouldn't even get one primary.

Let's not forget your 160 IQ, either!

Did you just assume his gender identity?!  :holeup
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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| The #benjishutdown is over!
« Reply #13978 on: January 31, 2018, 09:23:56 AM »
What if, halfway through the speech, he reached behind the podium and produced the atomic football and then launched nuclear missiles against North Korea? :ohhh
Trump: Jobs! We have lots of jobs, the very best jobs!
*Standing ovation*
Trump: Veterans! The veterans are great, very good people.
*Standing ovation*
Trump: In God We Trust! I love the bible!
*Standing Ovation*
Trump: Tax cuts! The biggest and best tax cuts of all time
*Standing ovation*
Trump: Nuking North Korea! Very bad people over there. Need to be dealt with.
*mostly silence, spattering of nervous laughter*
Trump: It's already done. We're using nuclear weapons against North Korea
Chuck Schumer: BUT YOU CAN'T! WE WON'T LET YOU!
Trump: Do you seriously think I'd explain my master-stroke if there remained the slightest chance of you affecting its outcome? I did it thirty-five minutes ago.

 :trumps

Schumer: Well? What are you waiting for? Do it. DO IT!

Pence:

How come that blue guy isn't wearing any pants

Gods have no need for pants.

That's my excuse anyways. :heyman

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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| The #benjishutdown is over!
« Reply #13979 on: January 31, 2018, 09:52:35 AM »
I #boycotted the SOTU last night because I wanted to play Assassin's Creed Origins. I hope I didn't miss any countries getting nuked.
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