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« Reply #13980 on: January 31, 2018, 10:02:23 AM »
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But Trump — who trusts no one, or at least no one for long — has now decided that he must have an alternative strategy that does not involve having Justice Department officials fire Mueller.

"I think he's been convinced that firing Mueller would not only create a firestorm, it would play right into Mueller's hands," said another friend, "because it would give Mueller the moral high ground."

Instead, as is now becoming plain, the Trump strategy is to discredit the investigation and the FBI without officially removing the leadership. Trump is even talking to friends about the possibility of asking Attorney General Jeff Sessions to consider prosecuting Mueller and his team.

"Here's how it would work: 'We're sorry, Mr. Mueller, you won't be able to run the federal grand jury today because he has to go testify to another federal grand jury,'" said one Trump adviser.
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/2018-state-of-the-union-address/state-donald-trump-he-thinks-it-couldn-t-be-better-n842501

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« Reply #13981 on: January 31, 2018, 10:09:59 AM »
The best thing about the memo is it probably means carter page is going to make the interview rounds again.

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« Reply #13982 on: January 31, 2018, 11:08:19 AM »
https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/958403727429455872

What if, halfway through the speech, he reached behind the podium and produced the atomic football and then launched nuclear missiles against North Korea? :ohhh

What if, halfway through the speech, he loudly and violently shit his pants and collapsed with a stroke?

Didn't watch the SOTU because I was busy masturbating, but did any of these happen?

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« Reply #13983 on: January 31, 2018, 11:10:53 AM »
https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/958403727429455872

What if, halfway through the speech, he reached behind the podium and produced the atomic football and then launched nuclear missiles against North Korea? :ohhh

What if, halfway through the speech, he loudly and violently shit his pants and collapsed with a stroke?

Didn't watch the SOTU because I was busy masturbating, but did any of these happen?

Politco's top headline this morning is the CDC director resigning, so I'm guessing last night was a snoozer. :zzz
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« Reply #13984 on: January 31, 2018, 11:42:14 AM »
https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/958403727429455872

What if, halfway through the speech, he reached behind the podium and produced the atomic football and then launched nuclear missiles against North Korea? :ohhh

What if, halfway through the speech, he loudly and violently shit his pants and collapsed with a stroke?

Didn't watch the SOTU because I was busy masturbating, but did any of these happen?

Politco's top headline this morning is the CDC director resigning, so I'm guessing last night was a snoozer. :zzz

Best part of the speech.

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« Reply #13985 on: January 31, 2018, 12:16:11 PM »
I would just point out that my record isn't that bad. I predicted Trump would win the nomination when PD and Mandark said he wouldn't win a single primary.

Edit: I had around $500 on Trump winning the nomination while PD was still saying he wouldn't even get one primary.

Let's not forget your 160 IQ, either!

Jack, who does more for progressive policy on a random Tuesday than anyone on this board combined, is very smart and good at his job. That's why Donald Trump is president, an openly anti-LGBT Mike Pence is VP, both the senate and the house are controlled by Republicans, and every progressive policy passed in the past 9 years is now being dismantled.

Keep up the good work, Jack.

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« Reply #13986 on: January 31, 2018, 01:45:02 PM »

Thankfully, one didn't need to even watch it to get reviews of Kennedy's official response hours before it happened and what it means for Democrats:
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Picking the scion of a political dynasty demonstrates the party’s “disinterest in the mood of their own grassroots base,” said Maria Svart, the national director of the group Democratic Socialists of America.
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In a statement to the PBS NewsHour on Tuesday, DCCC Chairman Ben Ray Luján said Kennedy’s “powerful message resonates with all voters.”

“Congressman Kennedy is an inspiring leader who has a unique ability to break down complex policy issues and connect with our hearts and souls,” Luján said.
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Kennedy is one of a number of Democrats whose name has been floated as a potential 2020 contender to take on Trump.
wow our souls connected to complex policy! John Kerry/Joe Kennedy 2020!

I think we can all agree that picking an unknown white centrist from a billionaire family was a headass move. Kennedy's limp SOTU response vindicates every critic on the left who questioned whether Clintonite appeals to diversity and meritocracy were actually sincere.



SOTU responses aren't very important, but just like last year's Steve Beshear bullshit, this speech sends the message that the Democratic leaders care more about rich white donors than anybody else.

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« Reply #13987 on: January 31, 2018, 01:48:14 PM »
Ugh we're gonna nominate Bernie aren't we
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« Reply #13988 on: January 31, 2018, 01:53:33 PM »
People who want Clinton to run again are certifiably insane.

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« Reply #13989 on: January 31, 2018, 02:08:22 PM »
Bernie's too old but if he runs in the primary I'll vote for him.

Kamala Harris is probably the best choice. She's everything Trump isn't, and has been way more receptive to leftist pressures than Hillary. She's one of the only well-known who can probably please both the Bernie wing and Clinton diehards.

I don't like her background with prison labor and Israel advocacy, but she's still a lot more convicted than your typical Democrat.

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« Reply #13990 on: January 31, 2018, 02:17:21 PM »
please guys. We have 2 years left until we need to worry about this. I don't think my heart can start this so early.
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« Reply #13991 on: January 31, 2018, 02:18:36 PM »
Trey Gowdy announced his retirement today :thinking

Probably to get that sweet, sweet tv money, but burying it the day after the Sotu is weird.
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« Reply #13992 on: January 31, 2018, 04:46:57 PM »
Jack, who does more for progressive policy on a random Tuesday than anyone on this board combined, is very smart and good at his job. That's why Donald Trump is president, an openly anti-LGBT Mike Pence is VP, both the senate and the house are controlled by Republicans, and every progressive policy passed in the past 9 years is now being dismantled.

Keep up the good work, Jack.

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Big brain: Bernie lost Hillary the election

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« Reply #13993 on: January 31, 2018, 05:01:32 PM »
Multiverse brain: The executive of the modern state is nothing but a committee for managing the common affairs of the whole bourgeoisie
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« Reply #13994 on: January 31, 2018, 06:37:14 PM »
"Stupid uninformed voters gave Trump the election!"
"When voters were informed about the Comey decision they used that information to not vote/vote for Trump"

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« Reply #13995 on: January 31, 2018, 06:50:33 PM »
Still believing in the "data" I see. When everyone out there got it all wrong.
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« Reply #13996 on: January 31, 2018, 09:13:31 PM »
That’s not really the argument.

The way the Comey Letter was covered led people to believe that the Democratic nominee for POTUS was in imminent danger of being charged with a felony. This butt hung over basically the entire early voting period. At the same time, undecideds swung dramatically for Trump.

All voters heard about her for 18 months was emails, emails, emails, with a spattering of Clinton Foundation, and obviously the 30,000 yoga emails she deleted contained the evidence where she organizes a plot to launder money through fraudulent Clinton Foundation donations to Haiti, so emails again.

Then the letter drops, and now she’s about to be indicted on felony charges, and people are like, “fuck this shit.”

I don’t know why anyone bothers to argue with me on this. It’s crystal clear from all the data.

Simply put, I’m right. Nate Silver is right. Stro is wrong. Username is wrong. Tokyosandblaster is wrong. Whoever else I’m forgetting who always clicks like on Stro’s dumbshit posts is also wrong.

Are you seriously still believing that the e-mails alone were what cost her the election? Clinton is unlikeable. She flip-flops for whatever bullshit will give her votes (her stance on black folks, her stance on gays, etc.), nearly every red-blooded male in the south fucking hates her/Clinton, you can say that's sexism and yes that's true. But there is multitudes of reasons that Clinton is disliked.

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« Reply #13997 on: January 31, 2018, 09:40:39 PM »
this discussion is like a kidney stone that never passes
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« Reply #13998 on: January 31, 2018, 09:41:54 PM »
Hilary would  have won if she just wasn't Hilary Clinton.

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« Reply #13999 on: January 31, 2018, 10:37:55 PM »
Still believing in the "data" I see. When everyone out there got it all wrong.

iirc Silver gave Trump around a 1 in 3 chance of winning and predicted Hillary would win the popular vote by a few points, so he wasn't really that far off. Now Robbie Mook and that guy who had to eat a bug on TV, they were pretty far off.

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« Reply #14000 on: January 31, 2018, 10:57:14 PM »

Frank Luntz surrounded by bearded tough guys in MAGA hats is the one thing I never realized I never wanted to see on my TV screen.
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« Reply #14001 on: January 31, 2018, 11:08:11 PM »
I might believe this theory that Jack and TIMU are the same person and he's just arguing with himself.
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« Reply #14002 on: January 31, 2018, 11:28:46 PM »
Dude with the black beard looks like he’s a taliban.

Judging by the news today, it looks like Hope Hicks is probably gonna get indicted.

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« Reply #14003 on: January 31, 2018, 11:32:12 PM »
Ok, tomorrow, when the memo drops, and I'm in here talking about how maybe the FBI overstepped its boundaries and that we should strive to keep our institutions accountable to democratic forces... someone tell me to stfu.
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« Reply #14004 on: January 31, 2018, 11:40:29 PM »
Ok, tomorrow, when the memo drops, and I'm in here talking about how maybe the FBI overstepped its boundaries and that we should strive to keep our institutions accountable to democratic forces... someone tell me to stfu.

Yes, let's yell at the group not currently trampling the constitution and blatantly engaging in corruption and lawlessness.

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« Reply #14005 on: February 01, 2018, 12:36:35 AM »
Now hold on, I don't know what the CIA, NSA, local police, DEA, US army, or ATF have to do with this.
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« Reply #14006 on: February 01, 2018, 12:38:26 AM »
Honestly the constitution blows

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« Reply #14007 on: February 01, 2018, 01:17:57 AM »
Yes, let's yell at the group not currently trampling the constitution and blatantly engaging in corruption and lawlessness.
I'm not sure we should let an incredibly small fraction of the American people off the hook like that.

Especially before we check their social media likes or favorites.

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« Reply #14008 on: February 01, 2018, 01:20:46 AM »
Honestly the constitution blows
Ah yes, Patrick Henry's second most famous quotation.

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« Reply #14009 on: February 01, 2018, 01:29:08 AM »
More like Cuntstitution, am I right?

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« Reply #14010 on: February 01, 2018, 01:55:06 AM »
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Frank Luntz surrounded by bearded tough guys in MAGA hats is the one thing I never realized I never wanted to see on my TV screen.

THOSE ISLAMISTS MUST BE STOPPED
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« Reply #14011 on: February 01, 2018, 02:02:19 AM »
Ugh we're gonna nominate Bernie aren't we

Can Democrats prevent him from re-joining the party since he only cares about dat D when he wants to run for President?
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« Reply #14012 on: February 01, 2018, 02:18:43 AM »
Bernie never actually formally joined the Democratic Party, there's no method for requiring it in the presidential primaries that i'm aware of, the party would have to withdraw from primaries and simply hold state conventions to establish such criteria and lock people out

they could have denied him participation in the debates, and were considering it, at the state level it's generally fairly common for the two parties to lockout "unapproved" candidates from party events

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« Reply #14013 on: February 01, 2018, 02:20:30 AM »


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“The elite media is part of the deep state,” Gingrich said. “The elite media group has survived by being in collusion with the senior bureaucracy, the city of Washington, the senior reporters, the senior bureaucrats, the senior lobbyists, they all hang out together, they all talk to each other, they all compare notes.”

Host Sean Hannity began to wax poetic about President Donald Trump’s accomplishments as laid out in the State of the Union and how the speech was well-received in polls conducted by CBS and CNN, and he wondered aloud why the media was not echoing the president’s optimism.

“The elite media in the United States is not neutral. They’re not referees,” Gingrich asserted. “They’re the offensive wing of the other team.”

“These are folks who are so deeply hostile to what Donald Trump is trying to accomplish that they are fully as much a part of the opposition as is Nancy Pelosi or Chuck Schumer and that’s part of why you’re getting this unbelievably biased coverage,” he added.

To put the icing on the cake, he balked at the Congressional Black Caucus’ reluctance to show any enthusiasm over Trump’s claim that black unemployment is at its lowest point in history, as if there’s no possible reason for black congresspeople to be less than enthused with Donald Trump.

“If they’re not happy that their constituents have a job, if they’re not happy that the tax cuts really dramatically help their congressional districts, then who do they represent?” Gingrich asked.
the modern GOP OG at work :lawd

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« Reply #14014 on: February 01, 2018, 02:29:35 AM »
http://www.tampabay.com/projects/2018/investigations/zombie-campaigns/spending-millions-after-office/
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IT’S BEEN MORE THAN A DECADE since South Florida Rep. Mark Foley was forced out of Congress for sending sexual text messages to teenage boys.

But Foley tapped his congressional campaign fund to dine on the Palm Beach social circuit four times in early 2017, ending with a $450 luncheon at the Forum Club of the Palm Beaches.

Then there’s baseball-star-turned-senator Jim Bunning of Kentucky. He paid his daughter $94,800 from campaign money in the four years after he left office, only stopping when he’d bled his fund dry.

And over the past 17 months, political advisor Dylan Beesley paid his firm more than $100,000 from the campaign account of Hawaii Congressman Mark Takai for “consulting services.”

It’s hard to imagine what Beesley advised. Takai was dead that whole time.
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Times/WTSP reporters analyzed more than 1 million records detailing the spending of former U.S. lawmakers and federal candidates. They found roughly 100 of these zombie campaigns, still spending even though their candidate’s political career had been laid to rest.

To be sure, history is full of politicians stretching the definition of legitimate campaign expenses. But most of those cases at least involved a campaign of some sort.

By contrast, former Rep. Steven LaTourette, R-Ohio, had been out of office for more than three years when he spent $4,555 on Ohio State football tickets.
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One spent $940 at Total Wine.
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Each Total Wine & More store is 20,000–50,000 square feet (1,900–4,600 m2) in size.
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Former Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, still has an active presidential campaign account that he used to pay almost $16,170 to his daughter through 2017, five years after he last sought office.

KHOU Houston found Paul in Clute, Texas. Paul drove away without answering a single question. He and his daughter didn’t respond to other requests for comment.
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Times/WTSP reporters requested interviews with all five FEC commissioners. Only two responded. They both declined.
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« Reply #14015 on: February 01, 2018, 02:31:01 AM »
Has Newty boy figured out bow smartphones work yet?

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« Reply #14016 on: February 01, 2018, 02:32:14 AM »
Bernie is truly a tumor on the Democratic Party. Let’s hope and pray he becomes gravely, naturally ill before the next presidential elections.
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« Reply #14017 on: February 01, 2018, 02:37:53 AM »
smartphones sound like something the elite media uses to destroy our understanding of what it once meant to be an American as part of their deep state plan to turn this into a secular atheist country dominated by radical Islamists

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« Reply #14018 on: February 01, 2018, 02:38:09 AM »
Bernie's too old but if he runs in the primary I'll vote for him.

Kamala Harris is probably the best choice. She's everything Trump isn't, and has been way more receptive to leftist pressures than Hillary. She's one of the only well-known who can probably please both the Bernie wing and Clinton diehards.

I don't like her background with prison labor and Israel advocacy, but she's still a lot more convicted than your typical Democrat.

Isn't Kamala Harris awful on health care?
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« Reply #14019 on: February 01, 2018, 02:39:40 AM »
Bernie's too old but if he runs in the primary I'll vote for him.

Kamala Harris is probably the best choice. She's everything Trump isn't, and has been way more receptive to leftist pressures than Hillary. She's one of the only well-known who can probably please both the Bernie wing and Clinton diehards.

I don't like her background with prison labor and Israel advocacy, but she's still a lot more convicted than your typical Democrat.

Isn't Kamala Harris awful on health care?

She’s a Medicare-for-all person. Interpret as you will.
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« Reply #14020 on: February 01, 2018, 02:49:27 AM »
from my elite ivory tower of not getting my hands dirty through the sacrifice and hard work of voting every four years; the bigger strike to me is the history as a career prosecutor

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« Reply #14021 on: February 01, 2018, 02:58:33 AM »
Overall, I like Kamala. I just think she needs a few years to cook. She’s been pretty visible for a first termer, but I’m not sure if she’ll be viable for 2020. I like her a ton though.
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« Reply #14022 on: February 01, 2018, 03:09:15 AM »
she's been elected to statewide office three more times than Obama, she'll have been in the Senate as long as he was, she'll be older than Obama is now in 2020

times a wastin

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« Reply #14023 on: February 01, 2018, 03:19:09 AM »
especially with the heartthrob taking over the party: https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/01/31/joe-kennedy-state-of-the-union-rebuttal-216561

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Kennedy painted a dark portrait of America on the brink, Nazi marches and mass shootings, “and that nagging, sinking feeling, no matter your political beliefs, ‘This is not right. This is not who we are.’”

Kennedy wasn’t defensive. He sees the hubbub over his shiny lips as another symptom of his larger argument: that when “far bigger” issues are actually at stake, it can seem like everything is the chaos, partisanship and politics of the past year.

“All of us bear some responsibility for that too,” he said. “It is a fractured and divided country. There are undeniably a sizable percentage of our population that steadfastly supports the president. People who don’t support the president have to acknowledge that.”

It’s even more a measure, he said, of how nervous the attacks show some of the president’s supporters to be.

“They can point out too much Chapstick all they want—it doesn’t mean that the Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice isn’t rolling back civil rights protections. It doesn’t mean that an economic plan put forth by this administration is largely zero sum—that it is benefiting somebody at the expense of somebody else,” he said. “It does not get away from the fact that the tone and the rhetoric our president has used has continued to divide America. And it’s not going to stop the fact that I think that’s wrong.”

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« Reply #14024 on: February 01, 2018, 03:19:46 AM »
she's been elected to statewide office three more times than Obama, she'll have been in the Senate as long as he was, she'll be older than Obama is now in 2020

times a wastin

tbh, at the time, I was concerned they were running Obama too early, but his charisma quickly convinced me otherwise once the campaign was in full swing. I like Kampala, but I’m not sure she has Obama’s charisma.
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« Reply #14026 on: February 01, 2018, 07:55:32 AM »
Ok, tomorrow, when the memo drops, and I'm in here talking about how maybe the FBI overstepped its boundaries and that we should strive to keep our institutions accountable to democratic forces... someone tell me to stfu.

I don’t know I’m planning to egg you on :-P

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« Reply #14027 on: February 01, 2018, 07:56:45 AM »
from my elite ivory tower of not getting my hands dirty through the sacrifice and hard work of voting every four years; the bigger strike to me is the history as a career prosecutor

If we get to a situation where Harris and Sanders are 1 and 2, in whatever order, “career prosecutor” will become the new Iraq War vote.

I’m going to guess that once you start pulling the strings, Kampala has some pretty ugly cases that will play poorly in a Dem primary.

Conversely, they will mean nothing against Trump.

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« Reply #14028 on: February 01, 2018, 10:33:54 AM »
Jack, who does more for progressive policy on a random Tuesday than anyone on this board combined, is very smart and good at his job. That's why Donald Trump is president, an openly anti-LGBT Mike Pence is VP, both the senate and the house are controlled by Republicans, and every progressive policy passed in the past 9 years is now being dismantled.

Keep up the good work, Jack.

You fucking dick, states and cities/counties exist, and that's where the best work is being done right now. Not coincidentally, that's also where my work is (and I would never, ever want to work at the federal level, fuck that shit). Right now I'm working on a project developing a strategic budget for the use of LA County Measure H funds to reduce homelessness. Last year I did economic modeling work on Universal Pre-K proposals in a couple cities. What the fuck do you do besides bash private citizen Hillary Clinton on a message board with like 30 users?

Edit: and I didn't say everyone combined. I said you and Tokyosandblaster combined.
I appreciate the work you're doing Jack. I really do. You are working in the most progressive state in the US and getting shit done. Thanks. Just think you should focus your efforts and shill for a good politician (Hillary Clinton is as much of a private citizen as Pretentious Hobo is a random forum poster).

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« Reply #14029 on: February 01, 2018, 11:08:44 AM »
Jack, who does more for progressive policy on a random Tuesday than anyone on this board combined, is very smart and good at his job. That's why Donald Trump is president, an openly anti-LGBT Mike Pence is VP, both the senate and the house are controlled by Republicans, and every progressive policy passed in the past 9 years is now being dismantled.

Keep up the good work, Jack.

You fucking dick, states and cities/counties exist, and that's where the best work is being done right now. Not coincidentally, that's also where my work is (and I would never, ever want to work at the federal level, fuck that shit). Right now I'm working on a project developing a strategic budget for the use of LA County Measure H funds to reduce homelessness. Last year I did economic modeling work on Universal Pre-K proposals in a couple cities. What the fuck do you do besides bash private citizen Hillary Clinton on a message board with like 30 users?

Edit: and I didn't say everyone combined. I said you and Tokyosandblaster combined.



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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| The #benjishutdown is over!
« Reply #14030 on: February 01, 2018, 02:11:29 PM »
Ted better keep his dad indoors there's another Kennedy on the loose

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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| The #benjishutdown is over!
« Reply #14031 on: February 01, 2018, 04:26:16 PM »
Ugh we're gonna nominate Bernie aren't we

I'd bet money that Sanders won't win 2 primaries. Becoming the anti-establishment alternative candidate is easy when you're running against one person, and he or she is as unappealing as Hillary was. Next time the field will actually be competitive with multiple candidates who will win solid support in multiple states. Gonna be hard for him to stand out on a debate stage alongside politicians who are actually appealing on varying levels (Booker*, Harris, etc).

*I'm not a Booker fan at all, but it's safe to say he's going to have some solid support and he's a good speaker
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« Reply #14032 on: February 01, 2018, 04:46:37 PM »
I think that PD is right. Also, I think that the next round of candidates will take the stuff Bernie has been saying and incorporate it better into their campaigns than Hillary did (or at least more convincingly).

Kamala is already on that.

That’s probably good, because while I think Bernie talks about a lot of important things... Bernie as President is “ehhhhh”.

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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| The #benjishutdown is over!
« Reply #14033 on: February 01, 2018, 04:51:29 PM »
I'd bet money that Sanders won't win 2 primaries. Becoming the anti-establishment alternative candidate is easy when you're running against one person, and he or she is as unappealing as Hillary was. Next time the field will actually be competitive with multiple candidates who will win solid support in multiple states. Gonna be hard for him to stand out on a debate stage alongside politicians who are actually appealing on varying levels (Booker*, Harris, etc).

*I'm not a Booker fan at all, but it's safe to say he's going to have some solid support and he's a good speaker
Donald Trump.
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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| The #benjishutdown is over!
« Reply #14034 on: February 01, 2018, 05:02:35 PM »
I'd bet money that Sanders won't win 2 primaries. Becoming the anti-establishment alternative candidate is easy when you're running against one person, and he or she is as unappealing as Hillary was. Next time the field will actually be competitive with multiple candidates who will win solid support in multiple states. Gonna be hard for him to stand out on a debate stage alongside politicians who are actually appealing on varying levels (Booker*, Harris, etc).

*I'm not a Booker fan at all, but it's safe to say he's going to have some solid support and he's a good speaker
Donald Trump.

To be fair, Trump had more charisma and was more entertaining than everyone in the republican debates. Sanders isn't that type of character.
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« Reply #14035 on: February 01, 2018, 05:06:22 PM »
Maybe not as entertaining but he was charismatic and commanded a devout following. You don't go from nobody to 45% of the Democratic vote without serious chutzpah.
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« Reply #14036 on: February 01, 2018, 05:15:19 PM »
Bernie talked about the wonders of birds and the redistribution of wealth.

While Trump said he'd shoot people and not lose voters.
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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| The #benjishutdown is over!
« Reply #14037 on: February 01, 2018, 05:22:45 PM »
Maybe not as entertaining but he was charismatic and commanded a devout following. You don't go from nobody to 45% of the Democratic vote without serious chutzpah.

I could have gotten 45% of the democratic vote against Hillary Clinton last year.
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« Reply #14038 on: February 01, 2018, 05:27:33 PM »
I don't understand why they don't release the memo and shut the whole charade up

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« Reply #14039 on: February 01, 2018, 05:36:23 PM »
"CNN: White House worried FBI director could quit over Nunes memo release"
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Top White House aides are worried FBI Director Christopher Wray could quit if the highly controversial Republican memo alleging the FBI abused its surveillance tools is released, multiple sources with knowledge of the situation tell CNN.
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Wray has not directly threatened to resign after clashing with Trump over the possible release of the memo, the source added, because that is not his style of dealing with conflict.

Just another day in the media.
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