US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[kingv]

There’s a reason neo was dodging handgun bullets

[agrajag]

Give them RPG's

[etiolate]

Why even worry about aerodynamic  travel time? Give them moonrakers.

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/967121337780199425
 



wat

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/967121399121960966

The camera work on this

 

[etiolate]

He was prepared for the Syria question but not that N Korea question. When he's not prepped then its like a jumble of advice he's got, talking pints and his own way of speaking  pushed out of his mouth into a short response. It's like those playdo playsets where you cram all the different colored dough into a press and out comes this trump shaped poop.

[Boredfrom]

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/967121337780199425
 


(Image removed from quote.)
wat

Fucking scumbag.

[Nintex]

Oh god, he's rallying again.

The fuckery will never end.

 

[Nola]

I think MSNBC is losing the plot on the AR-15 based on that quote, but there is a legitimate argument there about how out of whack and dangerous these weapons are. The glorified hunting rifle like your grandpa uses argument the NRA puts out seems to be completely bullshit when you look at the actual capacity of these weapons. I honestly never realized just how devastating that weapon is to the human body:

As I opened the CT scan last week to read the next case, I was baffled. The history simply read “gunshot wound.” I have been a radiologist in one of the busiest trauma centers in the nation for 13 years, and have diagnosed thousands of handgun injuries to the brain, lung, liver, spleen, bowel, and other vital organs. I thought that I knew all that I needed to know about gunshot wounds, but the specific pattern of injury on my computer screen was one that I had seen only once before.

In a typical handgun injury that I diagnose almost daily, a bullet leaves a laceration through an organ like the liver. To a radiologist, it appears as a linear, thin, grey bullet track through the organ. There may be bleeding and some bullet fragments.

I was looking at a CT scan of one of the victims of the shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, who had been brought to the trauma center during my call shift. The organ looked like an overripe melon smashed by a sledgehammer, with extensive bleeding. How could a gunshot wound have caused this much damage?

The reaction in the emergency room was the same. One of the trauma surgeons opened a young victim in the operating room, and found only shreds of the organ that had been hit by a bullet from an AR-15, a semi-automatic rifle which delivers a devastatingly lethal, high-velocity bullet to the victim. There was nothing left to repair, and utterly, devastatingly, nothing that could be done to fix the problem. The injury was fatal.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/02/what-i-saw-treating-the-victims-from-parkland-should-change-the-debate-on-guns/553937/?utm_source=twb

They go into pretty explicit detail about why the velocity matters, why it is different from other weapons, and why they are so efficient at killing. Since you dont have to be particularly accurate because the combination of the bullet and the velocity just does ridiculous damage to wherever it hits.

[brawndolicious]

Do I even want to know what y'all were arguing with Cindi about? She's supporting the NRA now?

[Nintex]

https://youtu.be/nNAJFRIUjwM?t=2650

JESUS CHRIST

The other people in the school,

The dean, the assistant dean, the principal

He's going to arm the janitors.

CONCEALED!! fucking great, because they don't know who's going to shoot them. 


FUCK IT GETS WORSE BETTER

And then they outside of the school, 1000 of them 3500 of them. And they're all outside and some madman can shoot them or cars, something bad can happen.

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

Anyone know if the World Trade Centers had armed guards?

[Himu]

Do I even want to know what y'all were arguing with Cindi about? She's supporting the NRA now?

Nope. I do not support the NRA and I am not a member. However, even assholes are right every now and then. I support SFA and like a lot of gun owners would rather have anyone else speaking for nationally for gun rights but NRA unfortunately is the most famous one.

[Raist]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-43173753

Good on them. Although you have to wonder why NRA members had discounts and shit in the first fucking place.

[Boredfrom]

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/02/nra-gives-ajit-pai-courage-award-and-gun-for-saving-the-internet/


Will cesspools like KiA or /pol/ are going to complain that is apparent that conservatives have no problems to throw Free Speech under the bus?


lol no

[etiolate]

kia is consistently pro net neutrality

[Nintex]

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/02/nra-gives-ajit-pai-courage-award-and-gun-for-saving-the-internet/


Will cesspools like KiA or /pol/ are going to complain that is apparent that conservatives have no problems to throw Free Speech under the bus?


lol no

Scott Adams: "How Trump played his enemies yet again! HAHA!"

Scott Adams: "Still 4D Chessing bois"

Scott Adams: "Why nuking North Korea was a good persuasion tactic"

[Boredfrom]

kia is consistently pro net neutrality

There is not thread in their reddit, they are to busy bitching about Jeff Gerstmann not interested in playing a RPG.

But hey, at least Trump is trying to save guns by blaming video games.

[etiolate]

kia is consistently pro net neutrality

There is not thread in their reddit, they are to busy bitching about Jeff Gerstmann not interested in playing a RPG.

But hey, at least Trump is trying to save guns by blaming video games.

https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/7zhb3i/censorship_donald_trump_just_linked_violent_video/

They had a discussion thread at the time (2 months ago) on what repealing NN meant for gaming.  They don't have a thread on the NRA giving out awards because that's not really relevant to the topics they cover.  I don't know why you'd think that subreddit would cover the NRA.

[Boredfrom]

kia is consistently pro net neutrality

There is not thread in their reddit, they are to busy bitching about Jeff Gerstmann not interested in playing a RPG.

But hey, at least Trump is trying to save guns by blaming video games.

https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/7zhb3i/censorship_donald_trump_just_linked_violent_video/

They had a discussion thread at the time (2 months ago) on what repealing NN meant for gaming.  They don't have a thread on the NRA giving out awards because that's not really relevant to the topics they cover.  I don't know why you'd think that subreddit would cover the NRA.

Lol Etiolate, wake the fuck up, I know you are better than this. Just some threads above there is this https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/7zml81/ethics_a_friendly_reminder_that_in_light_of_the/

And a top comment is justifying Trump.

[etiolate]

kia is consistently pro net neutrality

There is not thread in their reddit, they are to busy bitching about Jeff Gerstmann not interested in playing a RPG.

But hey, at least Trump is trying to save guns by blaming video games.

https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/7zhb3i/censorship_donald_trump_just_linked_violent_video/

They had a discussion thread at the time (2 months ago) on what repealing NN meant for gaming.  They don't have a thread on the NRA giving out awards because that's not really relevant to the topics they cover.  I don't know why you'd think that subreddit would cover the NRA.

Lol Etiolate, wake the fuck up, I know you are better than this. Just some threads above there is this https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/7zml81/ethics_a_friendly_reminder_that_in_light_of_the/

And a top comment is justifying Trump.

You linked a thread about how the gaming press brought back the "blame gaming" tactic with their idocy about sexism in gaming. Your "defending Trump" comment is saying that Trump is using gaming as a scapegoat and then the news cycle will pass on.

I'll tell you what you're doing wrong: Confirmation bias

[Boredfrom]

kia is consistently pro net neutrality

There is not thread in their reddit, they are to busy bitching about Jeff Gerstmann not interested in playing a RPG.

But hey, at least Trump is trying to save guns by blaming video games.

https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/7zhb3i/censorship_donald_trump_just_linked_violent_video/

They had a discussion thread at the time (2 months ago) on what repealing NN meant for gaming.  They don't have a thread on the NRA giving out awards because that's not really relevant to the topics they cover.  I don't know why you'd think that subreddit would cover the NRA.

Lol Etiolate, wake the fuck up, I know you are better than this. Just some threads above there is this https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/7zml81/ethics_a_friendly_reminder_that_in_light_of_the/

And a top comment is justifying Trump.

You linked a thread about how the gaming press brought back the "blame gaming" tactic with their idocy about sexism in gaming. Your "defending Trump" comment is saying that Trump is using gaming as a scapegoat and then the news cycle will pass on.

I'll tell you what you're doing wrong: Confirmation bias

That makes it so much better, using scapegoats to get attention away.

Don’t be a hypocrite.

[etiolate]

Do you think he's not using games as a scapegoat? Isn't that the nature of such a thing?

I am not seeing where you're going with this.

[Himu]

Jack:

Texas has open primary but I must choose a party and unfortunately I’m registered Democrat.

http://www.ontheissues.org/TX/Beto_O%60Rourke.htm

Beto:

Negatives:

Pro-abortion
Supports Dream act
Beto on guns: “Universal background checks, scrutinizing concealed carry reciprocity for states that don’t have laws that are as stringent as Texas, and allowing the Centers for Disease Control to study gun violence is critical, O’Rourke said.”

Positive:

Good civil rights record
Good stance on environment
Raise minimum Texas wage to 10 dollars

No thank you.

Ted:

http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Ted_Cruz.htm

Negatives:

- anti-lgbt
- voted no on violence against women act
- pro-death penalty calling into question his seriousness of his pro-life stance. Definitely not a Catholic.
- climate change denial for corporation masturbation

Positives:

- anti-abortion
- would not bail out the banks
- fiscal conservative
- economic affirmation action
- school choice



Neither.

[Boredfrom]

Do you think he's not using games as a scapegoat? Isn't that the nature of such a thing?

I am not seeing where you're going with this.

Jesus, Etiolate.

GG. The group that were used as Gaf/Res/progressives favorite scapegoat suddenly doesn’t have problem with a politician using their favorite hobby as a scapegoat.

[brawndolicious]

I can understand why you might not be able to accept abortion but what's wrong with dreamers, having common standards for concealed carry and background checks?

[etiolate]

Do you think he's not using games as a scapegoat? Isn't that the nature of such a thing?

I am not seeing where you're going with this.

Jesus, Etiolate.

GG. The group that were used as Gaf/Res/progressives favorite scapegoat suddenly doesn’t have problem with a politician using their favorite hobby as a scapegoat.

It does have a problem with that. I don't see how you can read that linked thread and not notice it.

Again, you're stuck in confirmation bias.

[Tasty]

Positives:

- anti-abortion

fuckouttahere.jpg

[Tasty]

Negatives:

Beto on guns: “Universal background checks, scrutinizing concealed carry reciprocity for states that don’t have laws that are as stringent as Texas, and allowing the Centers for Disease Control to study gun violence is critical, O’Rourke said.”

Why is this a negative? Literally everything listed here is common fucking sense.

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills 

Negatives:

Supports Dream act

[Tasty]

Why suppress? A gun without ear protection is a good way to fuck up your hearing. There's no reason someone should have to lose their hearing because a burglar came into their home.

If there's a possibility you're ending a human life with laser precision, it should be as loud as fucking possible.

And if you're doing it in self-defense (e.g. burglar), unless you're fucking John Wick fending off 50 armed dudes you're going to want to cause a commotion and signal others to help.

[Boredfrom]

Do you think he's not using games as a scapegoat? Isn't that the nature of such a thing?

I am not seeing where you're going with this.

Jesus, Etiolate.

GG. The group that were used as Gaf/Res/progressives favorite scapegoat suddenly doesn’t have problem with a politician using their favorite hobby as a scapegoat.

It does have a problem with that. I don't see how you can read that linked thread and not notice it.

Again, you're stuck in confirmation bias.

Rather, it's on the current media narrative being pushed, which follows the general line of "rally against Trump's anti-gaming remarks!!" and with outlets ranging from Polygon to the WaPo trying to have gamers rally behind them in their "just" cause.

...Never mind that while they hype up those remarks and spin more alarmist spiels, many of those same publications have also been responsible for propagating anti-gaming narratives for years (more often than not with outright lies) and haven't stopped. Thus at least in part, they've played a major role in cultivating this present situation. All while they still have the gall to think that gamers, devs and anyone sympathetic to vidya would flock to their banners and think that it's the days of Jack Thompson all over again, that they're "friends."

I'd say don't fall for it. The coming days are bound to be interesting, but suffice to say, if they think they could feign being the "heroes" again, they're horribly mistaken.

But have at it, KiA!

Sure, they are calling him out. /s

[Mandark]

Negatives:

Supports Dream act

Wait, let me guess this one!

"Liberals claim to want to help black people, yet they're going to open up the borders so a bunch of immigrants, and black people (who disproportionately do the jobs these people will be taking) will either be displaced or have to accept wage cuts? Black Americans whose roots in this country go back literally centuries and you're going to literally treat foreigners better than them? Another leftist scam, I'm glad I'm done believing all your lies!"

Either that or it's a typo.

[sphagnum]

Cindi if you want to hang out with white dudes who like guns why don't you go to a Redneck Revolt meet up or something at least

[Himu]

Negatives:

Beto on guns: “Universal background checks, scrutinizing concealed carry reciprocity for states that don’t have laws that are as stringent as Texas, and allowing the Centers for Disease Control to study gun violence is critical, O’Rourke said.”

Why is this a negative? Literally everything listed here is common fucking sense.

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills 

Negatives:

Supports Dream act

Dream act rewards people whose parents brought them here illegally awarded for it. UC Berkeley is giving hundreds of thousands of dollars to Dreamers while actual legal immigrants and born citizens struggle with student loans. Putting these kids above American citizens? Nah. I also don’t like what the dream act says,”as long as you’re under 16 and make it to America and live here for five years” you can get a sure path to citizenship? No. Fuck that. Also a family member was murdered the other week by an illegal who was deported THREE TIMES in a drunk driving accident. Nah. Strong borders. Legal immigration.

I’m all for universal background checks, I do not support scrutinized conceal carry for reasons I mentioned in my post to Phoenix Dark. Having CDC alone do firearm studies is a bad idea. Democrats have an anti-gun stance and could make biased reports. Realistically, there should be a bipartisan study made that includes that government, top universities, and more to prevent any hint of biased results either for or against guns.

Why suppress? A gun without ear protection is a good way to fuck up your hearing. There's no reason someone should have to lose their hearing because a burglar came into their home.

If there's a possibility you're ending a human life with laser precision, it should be as loud as fucking possible.

And if you're doing it in self-defense (e.g. burglar), unless you're fucking John Wick fending off 50 armed dudes you're going to want to cause a commotion and signal others to help.

Suppressors are pretty loud. They aren’t quiet.

[etiolate]

Do you think he's not using games as a scapegoat? Isn't that the nature of such a thing?

I am not seeing where you're going with this.

Jesus, Etiolate.

GG. The group that were used as Gaf/Res/progressives favorite scapegoat suddenly doesn’t have problem with a politician using their favorite hobby as a scapegoat.

It does have a problem with that. I don't see how you can read that linked thread and not notice it.

Again, you're stuck in confirmation bias.

Rather, it's on the current media narrative being pushed, which follows the general line of "rally against Trump's anti-gaming remarks!!" and with outlets ranging from Polygon to the WaPo trying to have gamers rally behind them in their "just" cause.

...Never mind that while they hype up those remarks and spin more alarmist spiels, many of those same publications have also been responsible for propagating anti-gaming narratives for years (more often than not with outright lies) and haven't stopped. Thus at least in part, they've played a major role in cultivating this present situation. All while they still have the gall to think that gamers, devs and anyone sympathetic to vidya would flock to their banners and think that it's the days of Jack Thompson all over again, that they're "friends."

I'd say don't fall for it. The coming days are bound to be interesting, but suffice to say, if they think they could feign being the "heroes" again, they're horribly mistaken.

But have at it, KiA!

Sure, they are calling him out. /s

That's a comment saying the media acting shocked to this is being hypocritical since they did the same thing for sexism being caused by gaming.

Polygon being a hypocrite doesn't equal ignore Trump blaming games.

You're being dumb or dishonest. Pick which of those marks of shame you want. Trollface or derpface.

[Boredfrom]

Dream act rewards people whose parents brought them here illegally awarded for it. 

Man, those scumbags./s

[Himu]

Cindi if you want to hang out with white dudes who like guns why don't you go to a Redneck Revolt meet up or something at least

Yes, because only white dudes value guns. I am actually joining Pink Pistols and a black gun organization.

But those are just white dude rednecks I guess whose opinions don’t matter.



Here is my buddy Piper representing.

[Tasty]

Also a family member was murdered the other week by an illegal who was deported THREE TIMES in a drunk driving accident

The fuck does that have to do with anything? THE FUCK DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH DREAMERS??

[Boredfrom]

Do you think he's not using games as a scapegoat? Isn't that the nature of such a thing?

I am not seeing where you're going with this.

Jesus, Etiolate.

GG. The group that were used as Gaf/Res/progressives favorite scapegoat suddenly doesn’t have problem with a politician using their favorite hobby as a scapegoat.

It does have a problem with that. I don't see how you can read that linked thread and not notice it.

Again, you're stuck in confirmation bias.

Rather, it's on the current media narrative being pushed, which follows the general line of "rally against Trump's anti-gaming remarks!!" and with outlets ranging from Polygon to the WaPo trying to have gamers rally behind them in their "just" cause.

...Never mind that while they hype up those remarks and spin more alarmist spiels, many of those same publications have also been responsible for propagating anti-gaming narratives for years (more often than not with outright lies) and haven't stopped. Thus at least in part, they've played a major role in cultivating this present situation. All while they still have the gall to think that gamers, devs and anyone sympathetic to vidya would flock to their banners and think that it's the days of Jack Thompson all over again, that they're "friends."

I'd say don't fall for it. The coming days are bound to be interesting, but suffice to say, if they think they could feign being the "heroes" again, they're horribly mistaken.

But have at it, KiA!

Sure, they are calling him out. /s

That's a comment saying the media acting shocked to this is being hypocritical since they did the same thing for sexism being caused by gaming.

Polygon being a hypocrite doesn't equal ignore Trump blaming games.

You're being dumb or dishonest. Pick which of those marks of shame you want. Trollface or derpface.

Touch a nerve?

You tend to lash out when people call out your hypocrisy.

[Mandark]

I think on the next page I'm gonna post about the Seth Rich stuff and really shit this thread up.

[etiolate]

Yup jokes on me. 

You've proven that Interacting with you is a waste of one's time.

[Mandark]

You've proven that Interacting with you is a waste of one's time.

weirder than capitalizing liberty imo

[Himu]

You've proven that Interacting with you is a waste of one's time.

weirder than capitalizing Liberty imo

[Himu]

Also a family member was murdered the other week by an illegal who was deported THREE TIMES in a drunk driving accident

The fuck does that have to do with anything? THE FUCK DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH DREAMERS??

He was an illegal immigrant. Bet you won’t see Nancy Pelosi doing eight hour filibusters for that.

[seagrams hotsauce]

Having CDC alone do firearm studies is a bad idea. Democrats

don't run the CDC lolol

[Himu]

Having CDC alone do firearm studies is a bad idea. Democrats

don't run the CDC lolol

I’m still against it. I want the truth. Not some partisan thing bought by Bloomberg or even worse, something bought by the NRA. Whoever runs the CDC study will be influenced by the government in charge at that time. That should make anyone skeptical of such a thing in an age of partisanship.

[sphagnum]

Cindi if you want to hang out with white dudes who like guns why don't you go to a Redneck Revolt meet up or something at least

Yes, because only white dudes value guns. I am actually joining Pink Pistols and a black gun organization.

But those are just white dude rednecks I guess whose opinions don’t matter.



Here is my buddy Piper representing.

That wasn't an attack, I was saying they're better than Republicans.

[seagrams hotsauce]

Having CDC alone do firearm studies is a bad idea. Democrats

don't run the CDC lolol

I’m still against it. I want the truth. Not some partisan thing bought by Bloomberg or even worse, something bought by the NRA. Whoever runs the CDC study will be influenced by the government in charge at that time. That should make anyone skeptical of such a thing in an age of partisanship.

Yeah, I'm sure the scientists at the Center for Disease Control are really heavily influenced by politics when they're studying paramecium and shit. The ridiculous paranoia that politics will influence epidemiology totally justifies doing no studies of gun violence anywhere

[Himu]

Having CDC alone do firearm studies is a bad idea. Democrats

don't run the CDC lolol

I’m still against it. I want the truth. Not some partisan thing bought by Bloomberg or even worse, something bought by the NRA. Whoever runs the CDC study will be influenced by the government in charge at that time. That should make anyone skeptical of such a thing in an age of partisanship.

Yeah, I'm sure the scientists at the Center for Disease Control are really heavily influenced by politics when they're studying paramecium and shit. The ridiculous paranoia that politics will influence epidemiology totally justifies doing no studies of gun violence anywhere

I said flat out just now I fully support studies on gun violence.

[Tasty]

Also a family member was murdered the other week by an illegal who was deported THREE TIMES in a drunk driving accident

The fuck does that have to do with anything? THE FUCK DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH DREAMERS??

He was an illegal immigrant. Bet you won’t see Nancy Pelosi doing eight hour filibusters for that.

This is some low-key(?) racism gurl. Not a good look.

[Himu]

Cindi if you want to hang out with white dudes who like guns why don't you go to a Redneck Revolt meet up or something at least

Yes, because only white dudes value guns. I am actually joining Pink Pistols and a black gun organization.

But those are just white dude rednecks I guess whose opinions don’t matter.



Here is my buddy Piper representing.

That wasn't an attack, I was saying they're better than Republicans.

I don’t know who they are. I thought you made them up.

[Great Rumbler]

Dream act rewards people whose parents brought them here illegally awarded for it. UC Berkeley is giving hundreds of thousands of dollars to Dreamers while actual legal immigrants and born citizens struggle with student loans. Putting these kids above American citizens? Nah. I also don’t like what the dream act says,”as long as you’re under 16 and make it to America and live here for five years” you can get a sure path to citizenship? No. Fuck that. Also a family member was murdered the other week by an illegal who was deported THREE TIMES in a drunk driving accident. Nah. Strong borders. Legal immigration.

[sphagnum]

Cindi if you want to hang out with white dudes who like guns why don't you go to a Redneck Revolt meet up or something at least

Yes, because only white dudes value guns. I am actually joining Pink Pistols and a black gun organization.

But those are just white dude rednecks I guess whose opinions don’t matter.



Here is my buddy Piper representing.

That wasn't an attack, I was saying they're better than Republicans.

I don’t know who they are. I thought you made them up.

Unlike everyone else on this site I am not so rude 

They're an antifascist/leftist gunhaver group but they're not like Antifa - they don't run around and beat people up or whatever. They mostly act as security and try to do outreach to other gunhavers to sway them away from the far right. "Guns are fine, but racism is not."

You might find them interesting. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/11/redneck-revolt-guns-anti-racism-fascism-far-left

[TakingBackSunday]

Can we please go back to something truly important

Like the fact that 17 people, among them children, were murdered and the simplest way to prevent that amount of death is to make sure mentally unstable people can't acquire death machines

[Himu]

Seems ok. I’ll read up on them.

[Himu]

Can we please go back to something truly important

Like the fact that 17 children were murdered and the simplest way to prevent that amount of death is to make sure mentally unstable people can't acquire death machines

Agreed, the police shouldn’t go to someone’s house 38 times in eight years before doing something. The FBI should also done something. The police reports and fbi report should have appeared on his NICS. But nope. Negligence on all areas of governance.

[Joe Molotov]

DREAM Act rewards people whose parents brought them here illegally. Like, here’s your reward, we’ll allow you to continue existing!

[Himu]

I’m empathetic to illegal immigrants. Jesus and his family went to Egypt to flee persecution after all.

https://cruxnow.com/vatican/2018/01/01/pope-says-world-must-not-extinguish-hope-hearts-migrants-refugees/

But I don’t think the dreamer act is the best way of handling things. The fact that they tried to blackmail democrats by threatening to self deport themselves if nothing was done wasn’t a good look.

Succeed sounds much better as an alternative to the dream act since it is based on merit.

[Tasty]

DREAM Act rewards people whose parents brought them here illegally. Like, here’s your reward, we’ll allow you to continue existing!

These scum will eventually get cars and kill people by the truckloads by driving drunk. Deport all 3.6 million of them! Who cares if it'd be Trail of Tears 2.0? Fuck you got mine, you illegal bitches!

[Himu]

I never said any of that.