US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[Freyj]

And when the first (probably black) teacher gets shot by SWAT, who didn't know he was a Good Guy With A Gun instead of the school shooter, I look forward to Dana Loesch explaining why he'd still be alive if he had simply followed the proper techniques of "having a gun out when SWAT is in the area."

Or arming deputies to patrol the schools. Weeks at max before another Tamir Rice.

[bluemax]

And when the first (probably black) teacher gets shot by SWAT, who didn't know he was a Good Guy With A Gun instead of the school shooter, I look forward to Dana Loesch explaining why he'd still be alive if he had simply followed the proper techniques of "having a gun out when SWAT is in the area."

Philando Castile was a school employee who had a concealed carry permit and he got shot to death by a cop, so yeah.

[Nola]

And when the first (probably black) teacher gets shot by SWAT, who didn't know he was a Good Guy With A Gun instead of the school shooter, I look forward to Dana Loesch explaining why he'd still be alive if he had simply followed the proper techniques of "having a gun out when SWAT is in the area."

Philando Castile was a school employee who had a concealed carry permit and he got shot to death by a cop, so yeah.

You could throw Tamir Rice and John Crawford III in that number as well. Both people killed by cops in open carry states where they did nothing wrong except being black in front of twitchy white people. Like Philando, people that all seemed to not get any defense from Cindi's NRA despite operating completely within the bounds of the law... I often wonder what they all have in common for why there was such silence?

Maybe Deneen Borelli - who I am sure genuinely cares about the Democratic partiies failings in addressing pressing black issues - has some thoughts on these obvious hypocrisies?

[Himu]

The NRA picked an inflammatory lady with little debate and career politician Marco Rubio to defend the 2A in a rigged CNN “townhall”? Lol. People in Florida please kick his ass out and vote for someone who will fight for the 2A without concession. NRA donators should be well and very pissed. I swear we need the Second Amendment Foundation on this rather than those incompetent asshats at NRA.
I need to send in SAF a lifetime membership at this point.

NRA should have sent Colion. No idea what those people are thinking.



Lovely hearing people cheer for a semi auto ban. “No one is coming for your guns!” Lmao. Always some stiff pencil neck lib who says,”ban military grade semi auto guns!” without having the knowledge to know that almost all modern guns are semi auto. Which makes their “we don’t want to take all guns just semiauto” raise even higher eye brows. As for military grade, Glock 19 for example, one of the most common and popular handguns,  is used by Corps operatives aka “military grade.” Sig Sauer P320 is Army pistol standard issue. Sig is my favorite brand. Semi auto. “Military grade”. But no, military grade means big and scary rifle apparently.

I am saving up for an AR15 and if there comes a ban I will refuse to turn mine in. I really dream of taking a vacation and going to a range in Colorado during a nice, thick snow and using a sniper rifle, MGS style. That would be a fun date!

[Himu]

Also good on Trump for saying to get rid of gun free zones! It’s good he endorsed armed teachers as well. Let’s see if he sticks to his word. 

Given my lower RX cost yesterday and my higher paycheck due to tax break I’m betting he might be true to that word.

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[curly]

Arming teachers is one of the dumbest ideas I've ever heard

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https://www.facebook.com/Channel4News/videos/10155707134161939/

[Trent Dole]

What the FUUUUUUUUUCK at the notes thing during a meet with the victims.

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I am saving up for an AR15 and if there comes a ban I will refuse to turn mine in.

Yeah what will you do when they come to your door?

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Anyone else seen this movie? Thought it was hilarious back then. But now..

To think America is sinking so low as to even seriously have a president contemplate giving guns to teachers 

[Pwnz]

https://twitter.com/NBCNightlyNews/status/966115261282639872

wat

Fuck, do they also have iPad Pros, Dell Precision 7920 workstations, and therapy puppies to do AP Calculus I & II?
 

[Pwnz]

What the FUUUUUUUUUCK at the notes thing during a meet with the victims.

(Image removed from quote.)

 
 

[Brehvolution]

"Can track an intruder in real time."

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What if you replace all techers by marines?

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And school by viet nam

[Pwnz]

And school by viet nam

When I was in Middle School, we had a Vietnam vet and my classmates would slam books on desks to trigger PTSD.  Kids can be cruel.

[Brehvolution]

Can we think of other areas where there are problems that adding more of what the problem is makes it less of a problem?

[Himu]

The “arm the teachers” thing is a great example in how liberals and conservatives  think about issues differently.

Liberals hear: the government should be giving teachers guns and pay for their training! But they’re barely being paid!!!

Conservatives hear: teachers who already have CCW’s have clearance to bring their weapons to school if they choose.

Liberals think of how the government will make this happen first. Conservatives think of how the individual will make up their own mind. It really shows the liberal dependence on government to think for them and their disposition for mediocre results.

[Himu]

I am saving up for an AR15 and if there comes a ban I will refuse to turn mine in.

Yeah what will you do when they come to your door?

The fact you think this act just says everything tbh.

[Mandark]

Being privy to someone's posts on two different platforms where they try to maintain different personas sure is interesting.

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I think the multiple personas is just how Cindi is

[nachobro]

Cindi is right. No one is talking about giving guns to teachers



Oh

[agrajag]

20% of teachers are ex-marines?

 

[Phoenix Dark]

The “arm the teachers” thing is a great example in how liberals and conservatives  think about issues differently.

Liberals hear: the government should be giving teachers guns and pay for their training! But they’re barely being paid!!!

Conservatives hear: teachers who already have CCW’s have clearance to bring their weapons to school if they choose.

Liberals think of how the government will make this happen first. Conservatives think of how the individual will make up their own mind. It really shows the liberal dependence on government to think for them and their disposition for mediocre results.

I know you're trolling but fuck it. The plan specifically calls for training teachers. Just because you have a CCW doesn't mean you know how to use a weapon in a school, how to comply with SWAT, etc. That training will need to be paid for. Who pays for it?

The idea literally makes no sense and endangers students alongside teachers while making the jobs of authorities harder.

[agrajag]

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1673106006090212&id=267418773793101

OK, so go vote conservative...

Cindi ver. 7.33323

[agrajag]

Why stop at teachers? Every man, woman and child should walk around strapped, for maximum safety.

[Tasty]

It's unfortunate that whenever Cindi gets pushback on any opinion of hers whatsoever, she always doubles down and goes even further that way. It's so predictable at this point that there really isn't any worth to a discussion anymore. Same thing happened to magoos and the GG stuff.

If you had told me two years ago Himuro would be cheering on President Donald J Trump I wouldn't have believed it. Now it's just Tuesday.

[Tasty]

I don't even give a fuck how much it costs, my issue with giving teachers guns is giving teachers guns.

[agrajag]

Lol look at dumb libtards reeeing about giving protection to our patriotic teachers #maga 

[Mr. Gundam]

I don't even give a fuck how much it costs, my issue with giving teachers guns is giving teachers guns.

I'm not in the schools anymore, but I was there for ten years and there was no way I wanted teachers carrying guns. The majority of those I worked with felt the same. Our SROs had guns, we didn't need more.

[kingv]

And school by viet nam

When I was in Middle School, we had a Vietnam vet and my classmates would slam books on desks to trigger PTSD.  Kids can be cruel.

Now imagine giving this dude a gun.

It will just be a matter of time until a teacher “shoots a student in self defense”. It’s a ridiculously stupid idea.

[Kurt Russell]

I think the multiple personas is just how Cindi is

I fucking love Cindi and the bore is lucky to have her.

[Great Rumbler]

And school by viet nam

When I was in Middle School, we had a Vietnam vet and my classmates would slam books on desks to trigger PTSD.  Kids can be cruel.

I had a teacher who was a Vietnam vet and one time he threw a kid [while the kid was still in his desk] through a window.

[Mr. Gundam]

And school by viet nam

When I was in Middle School, we had a Vietnam vet and my classmates would slam books on desks to trigger PTSD.  Kids can be cruel.

Now imagine giving this dude a gun.

It will just be a matter of time until a teacher “shoots a student in self defense”. It’s a ridiculously stupid idea.

Or a student gets ahold of a teacher's gun.

[Phoenix Dark]

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/966724852576145408

gee, it's almost like blindly defending a politician who has the ideological consistency of quicksand results in you looking stupid.

So this has nothing to do with how liberals or conservatives perceive shit: it has to do with what Trump has been saying. Bonuses for teachers with guns, and "rigorous training" (ie beyond CCW training). So again...who pays for that. Who is liable if/when something goes horribly wrong. And why the fuck would you trust a party who has spent decades cutting education budgets to suddenly pony up money for this. There are schools throughout the country that don't even have heat in the winter, yet we're supposed to believe teachers will receive up to 40% bonuses if they acquire a gun and go through "rigorous training" from the state?

[Great Rumbler]

He's literally just repeating what the people in that room suggested to him 


 

This has been mentioned many times: Trump will latch on to whatever idea the last person said to him and then double down on defending it like it's his own genius idea.

[Mupepe]

I dunno, guys.  Texas has some rigorous training in order to get your CCW.  In my class we had 3 students that I saw that couldn't load a magazine, but after 4 hours of classroom time and a 20 minute test on the range they were qualified and ready to carry their firearm in self defense.  That's some incredible training.

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

No Gun Left Behind.

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Its absolute bonkers anyone can carry a gun without a psych evaluation first

Fucking insaaaaaneeeeeee

[Joe Molotov]

Movies are starting to get so violent, with the killing and everything else. And the videogames, some people are saying they're way too violent.

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/966742099436752896

[Boredfrom]

Movies are starting to get so violent, with the killing and everything else. And the videogames, some people are saying they're way too violent.

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/966742099436752896

Hahaha

How many of his supporters were distinguished mentally-challenged kids that thought that supporting him was a take that against “puritans against free speech”.

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Trump only says this because of Barack Panthers success

Hashtag Resist

Edit: he does hate hollywood so this narrative would suit him so so fine

[Himu]

People can say what they want but I’ve been vocal against liberals and the Democratic Party for ages. I didn’t vote for Obama in 2012 and the only reason I voted for Clinton was because of Trump or else I would have voted Republican or third party.

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Troll

[Tasty]

"Man, life is so hard as a trans person."

*votes Republican*

"Why is life so hard for us LGBT folk?!"

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What are you talking about republicans and catholics looooveee black lgbt people, key demographic for them

[Phoenix Dark]

[ToxicAdam]

"Man, life is so hard as a trans person."

*votes Republican*

"Why is life so hard for us LGBT folk?!"

Thinking elected officials are somehow going to make your life better.

Sorry, you're still new to politics. I won't spoil the surprise for you.

[Tasty]

>against marriage equality
>against socialized health care
>against the right to choose
>against federal protections for civil rights
>against a higher minimum wage
>against safe sex education
>against net neutrality
>against marijuana legalization
>against repealing Citizen's United
>against Dodd-Frank
>against the Iran Anti-Nuclear deal
>against renewables
>against even the idea of fucking climate change

>for guns (if you're white)
>for tax breaks mostly benefiting the 1%

"Yeah, I wanna vote for that!"

Cindi, be reasonable.

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>against marriage equality
>against socialized health care
>against the right to choose
>against federal protections for civil rights
>against a higher minimum wage
>against safe sex education
>against net neutrality
>against marijuana legalization
>against repealing Citizen's United
>against Dodd-Frank
>against the Iran Anti-Nuclear deal
>against renewables
>against even the idea of fucking climate change

>for guns (if you're white)
>for tax breaks mostly benefiting the 1%

"Yeah, I wanna vote for that!"

Cindi, be reasonable.

[Nola]

"Man, life is so hard as a trans person."

*votes Republican*

"Why is life so hard for us LGBT folk?!"

Thinking elected officials are somehow going to make your life better.

Sorry, you're still new to politics. I won't spoil the surprise for you.

So edgy.

[Himu]

https://www.reddit.com/r/liberalgunowners/comments/7zh6hb/guns_are_magic_gun_control_is_the_democrats/



Andy: in my experience conservatives are more understanding of trans people once you present them the medicalist perspective. Also, your argument is exactly why partisanship is the way it is right now. Dems are just recently on the trans tip. They certainly didn’t give a shit about us before. Now you’re just used for more votes. This then limits your ability to bargain. Democrats already have in-roads with trans people. And people are willing to side with them. But how will Republicans ever hope to understand trans people if they don’t know any. I’m not doing anything for acceptance at this point. Or else I wouldn’t be posting here where I’m being laughed at. I believe in the power to fight for your rights while being within the walls that aren’t necessarily your friend. It’ll be harder, but at least I won’t have to give up hard values (freedom of speech, gun rights, pro-life;etc). “You can’t convince them! They think you’re this and that!” you’ll say, perfectly encapsulating the weakness and lack of fortitude that is liberalism/leftism. Like I said, it breeds mediocrity.

http://thehill.com/opinion/juan-williams/328045-juan-williams-in-memory-of-a-black-conservative

You can say,”they hate you!” but what exactly has the Democratic Party done? The same Democratic Party that begged Nixon to start the war on drugs (knee jerk). Or begged Clinton to get harder on criminals (another knee jerk)? Why should people be forced to continue to vote for the same leaders who have failed them?

Of course, you rely on,”you’re transgender!” as a reasoning to continue to vote Democrat. That’s always the reasoning. You’re black. You’re trans. You’re this, you’re that. Identity politics and nothing more. I’m trans but am ridiculed when I articulate that I like guns for self defense. And those are my allies? I’d rather hedge my bets on the dark side.

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Its one thing to think politicians will come through on their promises and think they will fix everything

But its another thing completely to vote for certified morons that hate your guts

But as we know the republicans thrive in gullible uneducted people

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Nothing says weak like needing a gun to feel safe you lil girl

[etiolate]

Andy, you're mistaking voting block tactics and wedge issue politics for actually caring about people.  Talk is cheap. Trump voters are finding that out right now.

[Himu]

Further, the two party system is based around communication. The parties should fight for you, not just your vote. If you vote for a party just because you’re expected to vote, they just consider you a vote and grow complacent. Fourty years of black politics reveals this fact. The entire concept of the two party system is that the two parties should compete for your vote. If they don’t compete, they risk treating you like fodder. Republican Party is no better with poor whites than the Democratic Party is with black people. Both parties expect it because the other side isn’t fighting for those votes. The result? Stagnancy.

So this year I will be registering independent. Partisanship is exactly why we are in this situation.

What’re ye sellin’? Hehe.

[curly]

so you still claiming to be a socialist or nah

[Himu]

Also the Democratic Party just expecting votes without the work sure worked well in 2016. Barely even going to the Rust Belt. That was fantastic in how enlightening it was. It showed that Democrats undervalue not only black voters but even all of their voters. Quite a message to send out.