US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[etiolate]

Katt Timpf got that aggressive crazy girl hotness. 

[Nola]

To be fair they roasted his fat daughter.

I think we're getting to the space where everyone feels the rift between the government and press has gone a bit too far and Trump is ready to dump another barrel of gasoline on the fire.

And when he does that, how should the DC/broadcast press respond in your mind? I'm genuinely curious how you would answer that.

[benjipwns]

a libertarian fee-male from Detroit who got a English BA from Hillsdale, does stand up and retweets Justin Amash

https://twitter.com/KatTimpf/status/560621473266958337

https://twitter.com/KatTimpf/status/989288185745362945

https://twitter.com/KatTimpf/status/984977246644555781

you can't fool me, i know an obvious scam when i see one

[Nola]

https://twitter.com/jsmooth995/status/990721783945924609

[benjipwns]

[Joe Molotov]

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If only

[Nola]

I think Maggie Haberman is an excellent journalist, but man, just take the L and move on. 

Nothing more pathetic and cringe-inducing* than spending all day telling people in different ways you don't have the time to entertain their simple requests instead of A.) just doing it, or B.) just admitting, hey, I fucked up, I got nothing, and I'm probably better off not Joy Reid'ing this thing over a hasty hot take anymore. I'll leave the punditry to the quality experts on CNN.



https://twitter.com/kumailn/status/990611725983531008

https://twitter.com/kumailn/status/990617060878180352

2 hours later...

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/990647726227492864

https://twitter.com/kumailn/status/990658305537146880

And another 6 hours later...

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/990752710873042944




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....Except for maybe someone spending all day whining about people spending all day whining about telling others they have better things to do 

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[benjipwns]

Might Maggie have been hacked?

[BlueTsunami]

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I'd pay 19.99 for this

[Joe Molotov]

Might Maggie have been hacked?

https://twitter.com/CillizzaCNN/status/990613699596611589

[kingv]

Honestly, they could have dragged Sarah a lot harder on her appearance while also dragging trump.

Like the President, tge Press Secretary also enjoys a second scoop of ice cream. Don’t worry, Ronnie Jackson assured me that she only weighs weighs 120 lbs.

My understanding is that the President likes Sarah because she’s the only person in the administration that can see things from 2 different perspectives.

We all know that President Trump has the biggest inauguration crowd. He also has the biggest Press Secretary.

[team filler]

that fat biatch is lucky they only made fun of her makeup

[benjipwns]

woah guys calm down with the x-rated rampage here, keep that for the nsfw thread please

[etiolate]

for benji



you only need the start

[agrajag]

yeah you would watch steven crowder

[agrajag]

new england clam chowder 

[benjipwns]

always give Nick Di Paolo a pass because of Tough Crowd like all the slowly dying off regulars from that (as an aside he looks like he's dying too)

[benjipwns]

also, the skit would have been better if they were offering the mugs as a kickstarter bonus so that the girl with facial hair could take an underwater trip to see the actual Titanic

[etiolate]

the world needs tough crowd

but can't do it without patrice

[benjipwns]

Greg Giraldo too, he wasn't just one of the panelists, like they did for the Comedy Central Roasts he and Norton wrote for the show, that's why Quinn's often stopping halfway into the stupid segments/sketches they would attempt (that the network wanted) and making fun of it because Giraldo or Norton had written it and Quinn thought it was stupid or it was bombing with the audience

Quinn wanted them to rehearse as little of the show as possible and sometimes you can hear them ragging on each other for using jokes from off camera, so he almost never saw the sketches/segments beforehand

Patrice was a god though at both serious yet joking calling out when they were being dumb cacs and being able to save the conversation from getting too legitimately heated by throwing in a joke...they'd get Di Paolo on with a pair of too opinionated leftie comics who weren't there to joke around and Colin's only play was to blatantly start insults with/at Jim Norton or Rich Vos

[Oblivion]

Never saw Tough Crowd since it was before I got into politics. Is it worth watching?

[benjipwns]

well, it'd be pretty dated as it's 2003-2004 and sometimes current events topics, though I guess a lot of them are topics that have never gone away, plus there's all the meta-commentary and meta-humor component especially as you get to know the comedians who reoccur

one of the ironies was that Comedy Central cancelled it for being too political and too often talking about racial/gender/etc. topics, right as The Daily Show started to take off

though it appears that someone has attempted to not only put every episode up but into a single playlist finally: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL987DB76CBF7C6085

Patrice, Geraldo, Lewis Black, Dom Irrera in a pretty good example of what it often was like:

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Colbert showed up at least one time:


lol at this topic and how Colin introduced it and Ralphie May's seriousness:

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[benjipwns]

interesting that these Joy Reid, Michelle Wolf X-Rated Rampage and Missing French Tree megascandals all hit right as the deep state assassination texts were supposed to come out

[Joe Molotov]

interesting that these Joy Reid, Michelle Wolf X-Rated Rampage and Missing French Tree megascandals all hit right as the deep state assassination texts were supposed to come out

We know where the tree went. It’s in quarantine, where all filthy French immigrants go.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-france-tree/macron-and-trump-planted-tree-at-the-white-house-why-it-is-now-missing-idUSKBN1I00UY

[benjipwns]

Charles Murray tried to warn us:

I collected data as I walked along, counting [trees] who looked like native French (which probably added in a few Brits and other Europeans) versus everyone else. I can’t vouch for the representativeness of the sample, but at about eight o’clock last night in the St. Denis area of Paris, it worked out to about 50-50, with the non-native French half consisting, in order of proportion, of African blacks, Middle-Eastern types, and East Asians.

[benjipwns]

watch this tree start producing all kinds of anchor babies, and we the taxpayers will have to pay to take care of them all

probably won't even bother to learn English

[zomgee]

interesting that these Joy Reid, Michelle Wolf X-Rated Rampage and Missing French Tree megascandals all hit right as the deep state assassination texts were supposed to come out

The benjiest post

[Brehvolution]

https://twitter.com/bobcesca_go/status/987735998267318272

I know I'm lttp on this, but my favorite quote I saw was Obama saying, "A felony conviction voids a pre-nup."

[Nola]

https://twitter.com/laurenduca/status/990794884582866944



Semi- TLDR version:

Dear Members

We would like to extend our deepest apologies for not better censoring our speaker Norm Macdonald, Don Imus, Stephen Colbert, Michelle Wolf during our night honoring and showcasing the fierce independence and journalistic integrity of this nation’s press.

Please accept this letter as our first counter-productive offering to appease you(and by extension the White House) on this night we had preferred to just project our usual sense of questionable coziness and to try to placate to this new administration that continues to intensify efforts to delegitimize our institutions.


This really does feel like a point by point repeat of the aftermath responses of Colbert’s galling audacity to lightly satirize a complicit press and president.

[Great Rumbler]

https://twitter.com/laurenduca/status/990794884582866944



Semi- TLDR version:

Dear Members

We would like to extend our deepest apologies for not better censoring our speaker Norm Macdonald, Don Imus, Stephen Colbert, Michelle Wolf during our night honoring and showcasing the fierce independence and journalistic integrity of this nation’s press.

Please accept this letter as our first counter-productive offering to appease you(and by extension the White House) on this night we had preferred to just project our usual sense of questionable coziness and to try to placate to this new administration that continues to intensify efforts to delegitimize our institutions.


This really does feel like a point by point repeat of the aftermath responses of Colbert’s galling audacity to lightly satirize a complicit press and president.

Bring in a comedian to speak at a meeting of wealthy politicians and stuffed-shirt beltway journalists and then act surprised when the speech drags people.

[Assimilate]

did people really think Michelle wolf was good? she was fucking terrible and her voice.. ugh.

[Nintex]

http://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/991060289427836929

http://twitter.com/SRuhle/status/991062243331723266

4-star Marine General vs. MSNBC Soccer Mom

FIGHT!

[Nola]

did people really think Michelle wolf was good? she was fucking terrible and her voice.. ugh.

If it's triggering one of the resident anti-feminist Trump apologists to want to tell everyone how much they hated it, thats probably solid evidence it wasn't complete trash in its aims. 


....IMO it was good relative to how bad most of the sets are every year(SHS stuff was honestly amongst the weaker material). In isolation it was decent. But TBH even the Colbert and Norm ones weren't ever great, well executed sets, they just often get elevated because of the applaudable ballsiness and the cultural moment they existed in at the time(Colbert especially). This fits in with that.

[benjipwns]

forgot about Imus:

That is exactly what was said, for instance, in 1996, when shock jock Don Imus made his infamous appearance at the Radio and TV Correspondents’ dinner. Somehow reporters were surprised when Imus said the same things in front of Bill and Hillary Clinton he'd been saying on the radio for years, making jokes about Whitewater and Bill's womanizing rep, among other things. The D.C. press was horrified.

"Now none of us can go on [Imus's] show again," complained Cokie Roberts.

"We wanted some discomfort, but not that much," said ABC's Jackie Judd, one of that event's organizers, perfectly predicting future sentiments about Wolf.

[Nola]

forgot about Imus:

That is exactly what was said, for instance, in 1996, when shock jock Don Imus made his infamous appearance at the Radio and TV Correspondents’ dinner. Somehow reporters were surprised when Imus said the same things in front of Bill and Hillary Clinton he'd been saying on the radio for years, making jokes about Whitewater and Bill's womanizing rep, among other things. The D.C. press was horrified.

"Now none of us can go on [Imus's] show again," complained Cokie Roberts.

"We wanted some discomfort, but not that much," said ABC's Jackie Judd, one of that event's organizers, perfectly predicting future sentiments about Wolf.

Everyone talks abut Norm's set these days, but Rutgers favorite fan was out there making Whitewater jokes, dragging Clinton about banging woman in his astroturfed El Camino, and comparing Rush Limbaugh to Budweiser frogs.

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/SaraCarterDC/status/991085664123965441

Hold-up this plot hasn't ended yet.

[thisismyusername]

*Puts on the Jack Remington signal*

SHILLARY SHILLARY SHILLARY EMAILS EMAILS EMAILS.

Ok, you here, Jack?

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/385461-democrats-losing-support-of-millennials-survey

Democrats are losing support among the millennial bloc of voters, according to a new Reuters–Ipsos poll published Monday.

The survey found that 46 percent of respondents said they would vote for the Democratic candidate over the Republican in their congressional district. That number is down 9 points from 55 percent who said they would back a Democrat in a survey taken during the same time frame in 2016.


Twenty-eight percent of respondents in the poll published Monday said they would vote for the Republican, which was up 1 point from 2016.

Reuters noted that support for Democrats is particularly fading among white voters in the 18-34 age bracket.

While 47 percent of white millennials said they would vote for the Democratic candidate in 2016, only 39 percent said they would back the Democrat this year. That number was equaled by those who said they would support the GOP candidate.

Results of the survey come as both parties prepare for the midterm elections in November, when Republicans will defend their party’s majority in both the House and the Senate.

The Reuters–Ipsos poll of 16,000 millennial voters was conducted online from January to March of this year.

Maybe telling the poor white voting block "fall in line," when they're struggling and another candidate says "yeah, I see you struggling. Let's try to fix that" doesn't work?

(Yes, yes, online survey. But I fully expect a similar sentiment from that voting block, especially given the ones I know.)

[benjipwns]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/congress-must-take-away-trumps-unlimited-authority-to-wage-war/2018/04/29/e2c70bd4-4a55-11e8-8b5a-3b1697adcc2a_story.html

Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) and I have negotiated and introduced a new military authorization designed to accomplish these goals. If passed, it would repeal the open-ended 2001 authorization that has provided no meaningful limitations on the who, when or where in the war on terrorism (as well as the outdated 2002 authorization used to justify the Iraq War). Under our proposal, Congress would vote to approve continued military action for four years against al-Qaeda, the Islamic State, the Taliban and designated combatants who are engaged with them in hostilities against the United States or our battlefield partners. This would establish an expedited procedure that Congress could use to swiftly review any change in whom or where we’re fighting, and reject those changes if we choose. And it would establish an expedited procedure to revise, repeal or extend military action against these terrorist groups every four years.

How are you going to continue that military action for four years when the army funding expires after two years?

And we should clarify that military action against a sovereign nation, except to defend the United States from imminent attack, requires separate congressional approval.

Wow, this sounds highly unconstitutional to me! Good luck at the Supreme Court, Tim.

[Nola]

Maybe telling the poor white voting block "fall in line," when they're struggling and another candidate says "yeah, I see you struggling. Let's try to fix that" doesn't work?

(Yes, yes, online survey. But I fully expect a similar sentiment from that voting block, especially given the ones I know.)

Eh, this is one poll. But it would fall in line with the sort of shifts you see toward incumbent parties during a healthy economy(also the fuck you, I got mine mentality that grows and Reuters used as one anecdote). I think trying to claim this is some deeper message about failed economic messaging is a stretch at best. It looks like a large chunk of the shift is by white voters, so wouldn't that be more of a notch on the idea of white identity politics that Trump specializes in being a greater factor than tailored millennial economic messaging that we have seen little of?

Though if I'm trying to prognosticate 2018, I'd be more persuaded by actual results:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1C2MVeM2K7WgqmJw5RCQbWyTo2u73CX1pI8zw_G-7BJo/edit#gid=2144047916

44 R => D flips, 6  D => R flips in all special elections since 2017. With a 12% overall shift in Democrats favor, 16% in 2018.

Or the fact that barring rare occurrences, the presidents incumbent party almost always loses significant seats in their first mid-term.

[benjipwns]

Maybe telling the poor white voting block "fall in line," when they're struggling and another candidate says "yeah, I see you struggling. Let's try to fix that" doesn't work?

(Yes, yes, online survey. But I fully expect a similar sentiment from that voting block, especially given the ones I know.)

imagine how much worse off they'd be if they had nominated cross-burning Grand Wizard Bernie Sanders with his "Restore the Confederacy and Jim Crow" platform instead of a universally beloved Abuela (may she rest in peace) with a pro-Obama agenda

[Mandark]

timu, are you tryna make jack look sane by comparison?

[curly]

In more George Mason University news, they acknowledged that donors were given a say in the hiring and firing of professors.

https://apnews.com/0c87e4318bcc4eb9b8e69f9f54c7b889

Because the best free speech is the kind you pay for

[Mandark]

The newly released emails are heavily redacted and do not expose the donor, but they do show that Leonard Leo, executive vice president of the conservative Federalist Society, is described as a representative of the donor.

oh come on

[Optimus]

Exclusive: Democrats lose ground with millennials - Reuters/Ipsos poll


Oh look, DNC continues to collapse as the failed Hillary Clinton strategy of bitching about Trump, spamming idpol and screwing progressives isn't working. SHOCKING

Sweet baby Jesus please let me be here if the Democrats lose and Jack Remington has his biggest and probably final meltdown.

[Mandark]

already got posted, champ

[Nola]

Exclusive: Democrats lose ground with millennials - Reuters/Ipsos poll


Oh look, DNC continues to collapse as the failed Hillary Clinton strategy of bitching about Trump, spamming idpol and screwing progressives isn't working. SHOCKING

Sweet baby Jesus please let me be here if the Democrats lose and Jack Remington has his biggest and probably final meltdown.

 Collapsing to the tune of flipping 44 Republican seats to their 6 since Trump's election....Which was already pointed out.

But yeah, keep cheering on Trump and conservatives because that makes sense for a commie anti-capitalist.

[Optimus]

Exclusive: Democrats lose ground with millennials - Reuters/Ipsos poll


Oh look, DNC continues to collapse as the failed Hillary Clinton strategy of bitching about Trump, spamming idpol and screwing progressives isn't working. SHOCKING

Sweet baby Jesus please let me be here if the Democrats lose and Jack Remington has his biggest and probably final meltdown.

 Collapsing to the tune of flipping 44 Republican seats to their 6 since Trump's election....Which was already pointed out.

Personally I would consider being humiliated by a fucking reality star with no prior political experience or support from the corporate establishment a fucking collapse. But sure, the consolation prize sounds... nice?

[Broseidon]

Those great foes the corporate establishment and the Republican Party.

[curly]

if that poll does reflect broader trends it's pretty interesting

overall millennial support for Republicans is almost unchanged, but whites in that group have shifted Republican, which implies there has been a counterbalancing swing away from Republicans among minorities that the reporting on the poll has ignored. My guess is that the drop in numbers for the Democrats is due to the economy and apathy over Democratic messaging (speaking anecdotally young people are a lot less invested in the Russia story than the older, MSNBC-watching crowd.

[agrajag]

Exclusive: Democrats lose ground with millennials - Reuters/Ipsos poll


Oh look, DNC continues to collapse as the failed Hillary Clinton strategy of bitching about Trump, spamming idpol and screwing progressives isn't working. SHOCKING

Sweet baby Jesus please let me be here if the Democrats lose and Jack Remington has his biggest and probably final meltdown.

 Collapsing to the tune of flipping 44 Republican seats to their 6 since Trump's election....Which was already pointed out.

Personally I would consider being humiliated by a fucking reality star with no prior political experience or support from the corporate establishment a fucking collapse. But sure, the consolation prize sounds... nice?

How come you constantly post the same shit as alt-right trolls? 

[Optimus]

Exclusive: Democrats lose ground with millennials - Reuters/Ipsos poll


Oh look, DNC continues to collapse as the failed Hillary Clinton strategy of bitching about Trump, spamming idpol and screwing progressives isn't working. SHOCKING

Sweet baby Jesus please let me be here if the Democrats lose and Jack Remington has his biggest and probably final meltdown.

 Collapsing to the tune of flipping 44 Republican seats to their 6 since Trump's election....Which was already pointed out.

Personally I would consider being humiliated by a fucking reality star with no prior political experience or support from the corporate establishment a fucking collapse. But sure, the consolation prize sounds... nice?

How come you constantly post the same shit as alt-right trolls? 

Because maybe just like "alt-right trolls" I despise DNC?

[curly]

optimus have you read any of The Intercept's articles about the DCCC intervening in primary races?

[kingv]

Has Optimus been black-pilled?

Also, I don’t see how that Jack whatever dude is actually an uncle, like he’s not really an ugly dude.

[Nola]

Because maybe just like "alt-right trolls" I despise DNC?

Identity over policy, how very cerebral of you.

[etiolate]

The shift has people not liking/supporting dem but not shifting Republican outside of white males. (Because the whole you're the devil and the cause of evil thing isn't working for them.)

Don't know if they're shifting independent or even further left. The dems main prob is that "we're not them!" doesn't work when your party is losing white voters because your message is filled with racial tones that are often anti-white for no good reason. No come to Jesus moment post-Trump yet. You have an elitist upper class atmosphere. You act morally superior behind Hollywood stars who turn out to be donating to your party while treating actresses and talent like an endless supply of whores.

But call everything alt right and see  how that works for ya. I don't know where the shift is going but I doubt they'll be attracted to the left's snobby entitlement.

[agrajag]

they're shifting to Kanye's Poopdie Scoopdie Party

[Nola]

Negative campaigning and identity politics are bad, fuck the libs....thats why the president that is anchored around negative campaigning and white identity politics is in the White House.

- etiolate's electoral wisdom distilled.

[zomgee]

they're shifting to Kanye's Poopdie Scoopdie Party

[VomKriege]

"- Hitler's mustache is as narrow as his mind.
- Wow I can't even right now. Not appropriate. Shaming appearances, I was shocked."

Your country is fucked. Ours to follow shortly

[Maiden Voyage]

The line of questions Mueller is set to ask Trump, as reported by the NYT, vindicates me. Despite being post-Cohen, these questions are still only primarily obstruction of justice related. There is little more to investigate and the investigation is coming to a close.

I'm listening to the dulcet tones of James Comey reading his book on my commute to and from work. Yesterday I was at the part where he discussed that competent prosecutors have a good feeling on whether or not the case is prosecutable. At this point Mueller has to have drafted a written summary.