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« Reply #24360 on: September 03, 2018, 04:52:15 PM »
Even by Trump's standards that tweet about Sessions is a bad one.

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« Reply #24361 on: September 03, 2018, 05:12:25 PM »
Chris Collins wasn't even under investigation until 2017, but oh well.
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« Reply #24362 on: September 03, 2018, 05:27:11 PM »
I'm dissapointed that Trump did not fire Jeff Sessions on labor day

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Mitch must be sweating buckets right now.
The death of John McCain to rekindle love for patriotism and drown out racist comments made by his candidates and the Manafort trial, a SCOTUS likely confirmed and all-time highs for the economy. All while Trump is showing he's against washirton elites by not paying federal employees more. The midterm election strategy is in the bag.

Unless Trump throws a tantrum and fires Sessions and half the justice department through Twitter before the election.  :doge
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« Reply #24363 on: September 03, 2018, 05:52:15 PM »
The midterm election strategy is in the bag.

How do you expect the midterms to go, exactly?

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« Reply #24364 on: September 03, 2018, 06:00:37 PM »
The midterm election strategy is in the bag.

How do you expect the midterms to go, exactly?
Trump should clean up in the PR seats, while holding the constituency seats. This will allow him to form a majority government instead of having to be in a coalition with the GOP. As a result he'll be able to pass Constitutional Amendments through the House on a party line vote and get them on the national ballot in 2020.

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« Reply #24365 on: September 03, 2018, 06:12:25 PM »
The midterm election strategy is in the bag.

How do you expect the midterms to go, exactly?
- GOP drags in the polls
- SCOTUS confirmed
- Mueller releases his report
- OMG Rudy is dancing naked on the White House lawn shouting the N-word to reporters
- Congress declares war on Iran. Unanimous vote (minus Bernie and Rand Paul) after Obama and George Bush deliver an incredible case for democracy and freedom "McCain would've wanted this"
- Trump fires Jeff Sessions
- Putin assassinates Michael Cohen and Paul Manafort
- #ResistTheWar does not change the mind of Washington
- Election is delayed pending operation PERSIAN FREEDOM
- Trump chokes on well-done steak while watching CNN report the first casualties
- Mike Pence secretly assumes office
- Kellyanne Conway insists the President is not dead but simply taking a long needed break from MAGA
- Rudy(returned from the psychiatric ward) reports the President is in great spirit and enjoying Golf

Elections?
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« Reply #24366 on: September 03, 2018, 06:17:33 PM »
The midterm election strategy is in the bag.

you think republicans are going to pick up seats in the house or nah?

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« Reply #24367 on: September 03, 2018, 06:24:28 PM »
The New Yorker fucked up and invited Steve Bannon to its ideas festival. They'll probably have to disinvite him as a bunch of the other (actually popular) attendees are dropping out as a result.

This is going to end with the same five or six people writing iterations of the same "free speech" pieces they always do in the NYT op-ed, Quillette, etc.


edit: they disinvited him two minutes after this post.
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« Reply #24368 on: September 03, 2018, 06:43:41 PM »
The midterm election strategy is in the bag.

you think republicans are going to pick up seats in the house or nah?
I think that the GOP thinks they have a pretty good strategy with the stock markets doing well, a SCOTUS nomination lined up and Trump again courting those that would otherwise never vote Republican.
So much shit is happening that the local candidates really have to do something crazy to make headlines or for their scandals to stay in the news cycle long enough.

I think the Republicans won't win a massive victory but hold on at say a 50.01% margin. As Trump not being on the ballot himself won't bring out all the Qanon's, the same will apply to the anti-Trump vote that won't REE to the polls.
To win elections you don't only need to flip seats but also votes and that's going to be a tough challenge for both parties.

For example, I would expect the polls to show a 70/30 blow-out against Ted Fucking Cruz no matter which candidate you pit against him. But that just doesn't seem to happen.
The divide is still 50/50 and Trump is just better at courting whoever wants to show up to vote to scrap by with those small margins even if it includes the mentally insane or the Nazi's.

I've never seen the strategy of having no real party leader and splitting a party between a liberal and socialist faction that depends on the youth vote work.
If I was at the DNC I would work 24/7 to flip conservatives and just bombard the airwaves with plans for even lower taxes, a more tough stance on Iran and North Korea and Trump impeachment for being Putin's little bitch.
Turn the whole thing on its head and make him squirm. One ad could be Trump saying something dumb and Rich Evans laughing.
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« Reply #24369 on: September 03, 2018, 06:51:26 PM »
why do you post so much in the us politics thread when you don't know how us politics works

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« Reply #24370 on: September 03, 2018, 06:58:17 PM »
That post might be even more wrong than benji's spoof post. I'm almost impressed.

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« Reply #24371 on: September 03, 2018, 07:13:12 PM »
Mandark, why

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« Reply #24372 on: September 03, 2018, 07:29:02 PM »
To win elections you don't only need to flip seats but also votes and that's going to be a tough challenge for both parties.

Highlighting this cause it's amazing and I don't want people to miss out.

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« Reply #24373 on: September 03, 2018, 08:27:23 PM »
To win elections you don't only need to flip seats but also votes and that's going to be a tough challenge for both parties.

Highlighting this cause it's amazing and I don't want people to miss out.

https://twitter.com/TPMLiveWire/status/1032579304293650433
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« Reply #24374 on: September 03, 2018, 11:30:20 PM »
The New Yorker fucked up and invited Steve Bannon to its ideas festival. They'll probably have to disinvite him as a bunch of the other (actually popular) attendees are dropping out as a result.

This is going to end with the same five or six people writing iterations of the same "free speech" pieces they always do in the NYT op-ed, Quillette, etc.


edit: they disinvited him two minutes after this post.

Why even invite him? The guy is such a scumbag and is clear he doesnt care about "free speech" or journalism in general and is just cheap rhetoric. He is like the Peter Molyneux of politics in pretending he is an intellectual and getting money of stupid rich conservatives.

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« Reply #24375 on: September 04, 2018, 02:56:15 AM »
Probably as an attention/press grab, which has clearly worked out for them. :woooo
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« Reply #24376 on: September 04, 2018, 09:48:10 AM »


For example, I would expect the polls to show a 70/30 blow-out against Ted Fucking Cruz no matter which candidate you pit against him. But that just doesn't seem to happen.
The divide is still 50/50 and Trump is just better at courting whoever wants to show up to vote to scrap by with those small margins even if it includes the mentally insane or the Nazi's.


imagine being dumb enough see a Dem getting within spitting distance of a senatorial seat in Texas that's been red for three decades and still thinking "god Trump is so charismatic"

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« Reply #24377 on: September 04, 2018, 11:30:27 AM »
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/04/politics/bob-woodward-book-donald-trump-fear/index.html

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President Donald Trump's closest aides have taken extraordinary measures in the White House to try to stop what they saw as his most dangerous impulses, going so far as to swipe and hide papers from his desk so he wouldn't sign them, according to a new book from legendary journalist Bob Woodward.

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« Reply #24378 on: September 04, 2018, 11:38:31 AM »
Everyone should read that article. It confirms all of your very worst fears and ma possibly exceed them.

The dude is fucking nuts.

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« Reply #24379 on: September 04, 2018, 12:04:31 PM »
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Then, in an even more remarkable move, Dowd and Trump's current personal attorney Jay Sekulow went to Mueller's office and re-enacted the mock interview. Their goal: to argue that Trump couldn't possibly testify because he was incapable of telling the truth.
oh my fucking god
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I love that John Dowd quit because Trump wouldn’t agree that he would be a terrible witness.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/09/04/transcript-phone-call-between-president-trump-journalist-bob-woodward

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Bob Woodward, an associate editor at The Washington Post, sought an interview with President Trump as he was writing “Fear,” a book about Trump's presidency. Trump called Woodward in early August, after the manuscript had been completed, to say he wanted to participate.

Over the course of 11-plus minutes, Trump repeatedly claimed his White House staff hadn't informed him of Woodward's interview request -- despite also admitting Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) had told him Woodward wanted to talk. He also started the phone call by saying Woodward had "always been fair" to him, but by the end said the book would be "inaccurate."

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BW: I believe in our country, and because you’re our president, I wish you good luck.

Literal Nazi sympathizer.

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Fact checking Donald J. Trump
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"This guy is mentally lacking in mental fortitude," Trump said of Sessions. "He's this dumb southerner," Trump told Porter, mocking Sessions by feigning a southern accent.
Fact check: True
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"Rudy, you're a baby," Trump told the man who is now his attorney. "I've never seen a worse defense of me in my life. They took your diaper off right there. You're like a little baby that needed to be changed. When are you going to be a man?"
Fact check: Partly true (Rudy's interviews are train wrecks but he's not a baby)
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Trump's predecessors are not spared either. In a conversation with Sen. Lindsey Graham, Trump called President Barack Obama a "weak dick" for not acting in Syria, Woodward reports.
Fact check: Partly true
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Trump went off on his generals. "You should be killing guys. You don't need a strategy to kill people," Trump said of Afghanistan.
Fact check: True (See Vietnam)
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"So Mr. President," Cohn said to Trump, "what would you need in the region to sleep well at night?"
"I wouldn't need a fucking thing," the President said. "And I'd sleep like a baby."
Fact check: False (Trump is up at late hours Tweeting not sleeping)


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/09/04/transcript-phone-call-between-president-trump-journalist-bob-woodward

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Bob Woodward, an associate editor at The Washington Post, sought an interview with President Trump as he was writing “Fear,” a book about Trump's presidency. Trump called Woodward in early August, after the manuscript had been completed, to say he wanted to participate.

Over the course of 11-plus minutes, Trump repeatedly claimed his White House staff hadn't informed him of Woodward's interview request -- despite also admitting Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) had told him Woodward wanted to talk. He also started the phone call by saying Woodward had "always been fair" to him, but by the end said the book would be "inaccurate."
That phone call is amazing. Trump just randomly rambles as Conway tries to figure out whether or not they had ever passed along the interview request.
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I feel like I need to listen to the phone call and not just read the transcript.

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After the reasoned response to the Nike ad conservatives are no long allowed to use the term "triggered" ever again.
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I feel like I need to listen to the phone call and not just read the transcript.

It's at the top of the article.

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After the reasoned response to the Nike ad conservatives are no long allowed to use the term "triggered" ever again.

They've blown up their coolers, stopped giving money to Dick's, and now they're cutting swooshes off their socks and shorts.

Props to Nike for knowingly waging into it, tho.

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i fucking love how kavanaugh has this constant (Image removed from quote.) look on his face during the hearing

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It's because he knows he's going to hell.
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I can't believe all these fucks out here acting like this chick behind Kavanaugh resting her hands in some weird way is the proof of the downfall of modern society jfc get a grip  :doge
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Remember when Michael Cohen pleaded guilty ten years ago?  :thinking
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The chick behind Kavanaugh is pretty fucking hot though even if she has smallish eyes.

I can’t wait to read (I.e. listen to) that Woodward book. It sounds fucking nuts.

I’m listening to Rick Wilson’s book now and it’s somewhat good at showing Republican hypocrisy around trump and laying out a case for why Trump is so unfit, but he never really comes to grips with his role in the creation of Trumps base and also uses Obama too liberally as a comparison point to Trump. Like “oh trump does this JUST LIKE OBAMA DID!” Or “Trumps followers have a glassy-eyed hero worship like Obama’s did”

I get what he is getting at, and I think there is room to disagree with Obama, but comparing him to Trump as if there is any real comparison in any way is just silly.  Anything Obama did “wrong” or norms he violated Trump is doing wrong^2 so it’s just deeply dishonest to even start with that benchmark.

I find this a lot in the Anti-trump right like Wilson, Tom Nichols, or a few others. Like they seem to think that the GOP just had a bout of temporary insanity and in reality their biases and focus groups means that they actually understand that these old people running around in tricorns festooned with Lipton’s Finest carrying MORAN signs have some kind of deeply held conservative value system instead of just being old white trash with early onset dementia. They can’t quite come to grips that they were never really conservative thought leaders and were actually just the so-called “lipstick on a pig” that Sarah Palin loved to talk about so much.

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Another upset in a Dem primary--ten-term incumbent Mike Capuano loses to Ayanna Pressley. In this case though the policies of the two candidates were both pretty similarly progressive.

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Also unlike AOC, she's an established (though still relatively young) local politician and was endorsed by both the major daily newspapers in Boston. This is a pretty good piece for context.

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And nobody tell Optimus, but issues of race and gender representation seem to go fine with progressive economic politics.
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How the hell did 16.5k people think Wu was a good candidate?

Source is here btw: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/09/04/us/elections/results-massachusetts-primary-elections.html

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why is ted cruz trying to score points on twitter

It's the least possible amount of work to do. Right above thoughts and prayers.
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I’d rather have trump as my congressman than Brianna Wu.

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How the hell did 16.5k people think Wu was a good candidate?

Source is here btw: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/09/04/us/elections/results-massachusetts-primary-elections.html

She had a good message, said the right things, and kept most of her previous drama (which would likely be general election sinkers) under lock and key. Also, this is crazy times, where being active in politics is somehow considered a detriment if you're a newcomer, so maybe the opposite held true here.

That race in particular is a good sign of two things IMO: 1. that career politicians still have a place in MA if they do their jobs right, and 2. that progressivism is still thriving, maybe not in this race itself, but Wu locked up a good chunk of the vote by pretty much just saying (what I believe are) the right things and doing not much else.

Pair that message with an actually good candidate and baby, you got a stew going.

For the record, I voted for Lynch, but it wasn't a strong endorsement.

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I’d rather have trump as my congressman than Brianna Wu.

But would you rather have Wu as your president than Trump?

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https://twitter.com/dandrezner/status/1036940918337798144

This dick seriously gonna drop a phrase that hiring managers tell you NOT to fucking drop in a resume
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But would you rather have Wu as your president than Trump?

No brainer here
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I’d rather have trump as my congressman than Brianna Wu.

But would you rather have Wu as your president than Trump?

I’m not sure. She’d be pretty bad too.

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I saw her soapbox on The View where she trotted out the usual dumb "name one socialist country that works" talking point and between that and the constant rhetorical "I'm sorry, but...", it's safe to ignore her completely. Like Joe Kennedy III.

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"This guy is totally a rising star in the dem party. We're going to give him a shot." :lol
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Its like the Kennedy genes fell onto an unvacuumed shaggy red carpet
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I’d rather have trump as my congressman than Brianna Wu.

But would you rather have Wu as your president than Trump?

She is also a pretty big nutso liar. So probably not...

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My friend's been sending me left wing memes.



:lol
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/amazon-founder-jeff-bezos-gives-10-million-to-super-pac-in-first-major-political-contribution-1536141600

Of all the things to waste your plutocracy on... "we need more vets in Congress!"  :american

EDIT: oh, it's for defense contracts
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As far as bonds go, I'd prefer if we sell Pierce Brosnan
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The Nike stuff is kind of brillant.

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« Reply #24412 on: September 05, 2018, 02:44:54 PM »
The New Yorker fucked up and invited Steve Bannon to its ideas festival. They'll probably have to disinvite him as a bunch of the other (actually popular) attendees are dropping out as a result.

This is going to end with the same five or six people writing iterations of the same "free speech" pieces they always do in the NYT op-ed, Quillette, etc.


edit: they disinvited him two minutes after this post.

Now Twitter Edits The New Yorker by Bret Stephens and it's even dumber than you could hope for. In a piece defending "free speech" he says a reporter should be fired for criticizing their boss.

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Even with my ego it's hard to take a victory lap on this one, was way too predictable.
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You could stop associating this with "free Speech". Bannon is not interested on that and al righters only leech on it because is a "defense" that leftist are to happy to give it to them.

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https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/05/politics/marco-rubio-alex-jones/index.html

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After talking over Rubio a few times, Jones tapped the senator on the shoulder, as seen in video live-streamed and promoted by Cassandra Fairbanks, a right-wing blogger and an activist.

"Hey, don't touch me again, man," Rubio said to Jones. "I'm asking you not to touch me again."

"Sure, I just patted you nicely," said Jones, who was standing to Rubio's right in the swarm of reporters, Rubio's staff and security in the Senate hallway.

Rubio replied, "But I don't want to be touched. I don't know who you are."

"You want me to get arrested," Jones claimed.

Rubio then said, "You're not going to get arrested. I'll take care of you myself."

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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opinion/trump-white-house-anonymous-resistance.html

“He’s calling from inside the house!!!!”
What I don't get is after how Trump fired aide after aide all these 'anonymous' officials somehow believe they'll be the once to stick around and 'save' the Republic.
What if he continues fires them, who's going to stop his worst impulses then?

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"They might think it's important to restrain Trump, but maybe he'll fire them."

I don't even like the editorial, but you're being very dumb.