US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[Broseidon]

suddenly really worried about deterioration of the rule of law during the Trump administration as a result of lying bitches

[Joe Molotov]

What public office has he been removed from?

[Stro]

Man...wtf at both of those vids.

[Propagandhim]

https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts/status/1046802082664087552

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1046802290319867905

"I never had alcohol. Can you imagine if I had, what a mess I'd be? I'd be the world's worst." - President Donald J. Trump
 

That second video.  Jesus Christ 

"Do you think he lied about his drinking?"
*goes off a tangent about how he personally doesn't drink*
"Yeah, but..."
"YOU'VE HAD ENOUGH"

This guy sucks so hard 

[Leadbelly]

He did it to himself. He could've kept a low profile and he woupd've gotten away with his high school and college rape and debauchery. He was literally asking for it.

First of all, as far as I am aware none of the allegations are actually for rape. They are accusations of incidents that happened decades ago. The thing is, no evidence has been brought forward, none.

I don't give a shit quite frankly about Kavanaugh, I just don't feel comfortable with this whole 'listen and believe' crap. Surely it can't be good in the long run for a society to just treat these sort of accusations as gospel and then pretty much destroy a person's reputation and livelihood over it? I don't know... you people make it seem like this is a fucking far out opinion or something. lol

[Leadbelly]

suddenly really worried about deterioration of the rule of law during the Trump administration as a result of lying bitches

Not suddenly no. I have actually mentioned this before in another context.

[curly]

Shut the fuck up you dork

[Stro]

He did it to himself. He could've kept a low profile and he woupd've gotten away with his high school and college rape and debauchery. He was literally asking for it.

First of all, as far as I am aware none of the allegations are actually for rape. They are accusations of incidents that happened decades ago. The thing is, no evidence has been brought forward, none.

I don't give a shit quite frankly about Kavanaugh, I just don't feel comfortable with this whole 'listen and believe' crap. Surely it can't be good in the long run for a society to just treat these sort of accusations as gospel and then pretty much destroy a person's reputation and livelihood over it? I don't know... you people make it seem like this is a fucking far out opinion or something. lol

He has been accused of participating in at least a gangrape, but Dr. Ford did not accuse him of rape.

[agrajag]

Yes. Women just line up to testify to the FBI under threat of imprisonment for perjury with absolutely nothing to gain from it but stalking and harassment. Please tell me more.

[nachobro]

poor guy might have to go back to only being on the 2nd most powerful court in the country, might as well be working at mcdonalds

[Leadbelly]

Yes. Women just line up to testify to the FBI under threat of imprisonment for perjury with absolutely nothing to gain from it but stalking and harassment. Please tell me more.

So Ramirez recalls an incident, again decades ago, in which she was drunk and admits there are gaps in her memory. SHe recalls a penis next to her face and someone shouting "Kavanaugh put his penis on Debbie's face". Okay, might have happened, but then again, might not necessarily happened the way she said it did, it was decdes ago when she was drunk and had gaps in her memory.

Call me crazy, but I find it hard to make a conclusion on that.

Ford said he grabbed her while she was on the bed and tried to take her clothes off. She thought he was trying to kill her. He didn't succeed in doing so and supposedly didn't rape her.

Again, Might have happened the way she said I don't know.

The other witness said he was present at parties where girls had their drinks spiked. Didn't claim he was involved only that he was present.

I don't know what to make of that.

Point being, there needs to be some kind of concrete evidence for me to form an opinion.

[Stro]

Tbh he probably should get cut from that job as well, considering he's openly partisan and actually threatened sitting senators, not even counting his general unhinged behavior and blatant lies. Idk how you could trust a guy like that to be a good judge of anything.

[Leadbelly]

Tbh he probably should get cut from that job as well, considering he's openly partisan and actually threatened sitting senators, not even counting his general unhinged behavior and blatant lies. Idk how you could trust a guy like that to be a good judge of anything.

Well that is something different. I don't know much about anything else, it's simply these accusations I have been following.

[nachobro]

Well that is something different. I don't know much about anything else, it's simply these accusations I have been following.

i guess you haven't been following very closely considering he did all that at his hearing

[Mandark]

The thing is, no evidence has been brought forward, none.

Testimony is evidence you dumbfuck.

[Leadbelly]

Well that is something different. I don't know much about anything else, it's simply these accusations I have been following.

i guess you haven't been following very closely considering he did all that at his hearing

I only read up on the accusations against him and didn't know what to make of it.

[Leadbelly]

The thing is, no evidence has been brought forward, none.

Testimony is evidence you dumbfuck.

I... Okay. You accuse me of something, I say it didn't happen. Great evidence you dumb fuck. lol

[curly]

He was lying out his ass during the hearing. About his high school drinking, about what a devil's triangle was, about the yearbook, about what other witnesses had said, even about whether he had watched Ford's testimony.

[Mandark]

wait until leadbuddy finds out people are convicted in criminal trials based on eyewitness testimony :O

[Stro]

"The Devil's Triangle...uh....you play quarters?"

[Propagandhim]

I feel like we're in a devil's triangle right now

[nachobro]

i think all this shit going on now is completely fucked also i don't even know the basics of the situation or even anything about it at all

[agrajag]

Glad we agree that there should be a thorough investigation into all the accusations. You can stop feeling sorry for this guy any time though.

[Leadbelly]

He was lying out his ass during the hearing. About his high school drinking, about what a devil's triangle was, about the yearbook, about what other witnesses had said, even about whether he had watched Ford's testimony.

Well, that isn't going to help in any way then.

[agrajag]

Leadbelly straight boofed right now.

[Coitus]

The thing is, no evidence has been brought forward, none.

Testimony is evidence you dumbfuck.

People think real life is CSI.

Also his calendar corroborates a party with some of the individuals she named as being present.

[Leadbelly]

Glad we agree that there should be a thorough investigation into all the accusations. You can stop feeling sorry for this guy any time though.

Maybe go back to a previous post. Explicitly said I didn't give a fuck about Kavanaugh personally.

[Mandark]

He was lying out his ass during the hearing. About his high school drinking, about what a devil's triangle was, about the yearbook, about what other witnesses had said, even about whether he had watched Ford's testimony.

Lied about "boofing," lied about growing up "in a city plagued by gun violence" (motherfucker you grew up in Bethesda), lied about "Renate alumnus," lied about blacking out, lied about throwing up during Beach Week cause of "spicy food," lied about getting in to Yale with "no connections" (he was a legacy) etc.

He lied so obviously and so much that the current spin on conservative Twitter is "well of course he was driven to tell these unimportant lies by the liberal witch hunt!"

Meanwhile Ford told her husband and her therapist about the assault in 2012. But it's probably 50/50 whether she's been running a Keyser Soze-esque con for six years or the dude who told a bunch of obvious, easily spotted lies on national TV isn't telling the truth.

[Propagandhim]

The funny thing is, if he pretended the calendar didn't exist he would be so ahead right now.  The 'boofing' and 'devil's triangle' things were so embarrassing and irrelevant that he thought he was forced to lie about it under oath because perhaps he thought it would have been sensationalized by his ideological opponents and the media if he actually admitted to what they were.  Now everyone, rightfully, thinks he's willing to lie about anything.   Why did he bring that shit to court?  Idiot.   Has he learned anything from Sam Harris?  It's not a lie if you don't say it!

[Leadbelly]

Leadbelly straight boofed right now.

Well, my point was about the allegations of sexual misconduct. If he is dismissed becuase of lying under oath about drinking  and so on, then that is something else.

[agrajag]

Glad we agree that there should be a thorough investigation into all the accusations. You can stop feeling sorry for this guy any time though.

Maybe go back to a previous post. Explicitly said I didn't give a fuck about Kavanaugh personally.

It's obvious the Left-wing media are having a field day over this. Ultimately though, you have a bunch of unsubstantiated accusations, no evidence, a story that focuses on supposed misconduct back when he was a teenager, years ago, and somehow this should be enough to destroy the man?

Yeah because these sort of accusations aren't damaging to a person's reputation and career or nothing. lol

And unsubstantiated aaccusations that lead to removal of public officials isn't something to be concerned about or anything. Fuck evidence and the rule of law.

Oh. 

[Mandark]

Leadbelly straight boofed right now.

Well, my point was about the allegations of sexual misconduct. If he is dismissed becuase of lying under oath about drinking  and so on, then that is something else.

How is frequent lying under oath a separate issue from his credibility re: the assault allegations?

[agrajag]

The funny thing is, if he pretended the calendar didn't exist he would be so ahead right now.  The 'boofing' and 'devil's triangle' things were so embarrassing and irrelevant that he thought he was forced to lie about it under oath because perhaps he thought it would have been sensationalized by his ideological opponents and the media if he actually admitted to what they were.  Now everyone, rightfully, thinks he's willing to lie about anything.   Why did he bring that shit to court?  Idiot.   Has he learned anything from Sam Harris?  It's not a lie if you don't say it!

He also lied in the Fox News interview about being a virgin goodie two shoes, while he was obviously running around getting boofed and having devil's triangles in high school 

[Propagandhim]

The funny thing is, if he pretended the calendar didn't exist he would be so ahead right now.  The 'boofing' and 'devil's triangle' things were so embarrassing and irrelevant that he thought he was forced to lie about it under oath because perhaps he thought it would have been sensationalized by his ideological opponents and the media if he actually admitted to what they were.  Now everyone, rightfully, thinks he's willing to lie about anything.   Why did he bring that shit to court?  Idiot.   Has he learned anything from Sam Harris?  It's not a lie if you don't say it!

He also lied in the Fox News interview about being a virgin goodie two shoes, while he was obviously running around getting boofed and having devil's triangles in high school 

This has gone on long enough.  Someone get Squee on the phone to set the record straight.

[Propagandhim]

Fffffffffffffuck

[Leadbelly]

Glad we agree that there should be a thorough investigation into all the accusations. You can stop feeling sorry for this guy any time though.

Maybe go back to a previous post. Explicitly said I didn't give a fuck about Kavanaugh personally.

It's obvious the Left-wing media are having a field day over this. Ultimately though, you have a bunch of unsubstantiated accusations, no evidence, a story that focuses on supposed misconduct back when he was a teenager, years ago, and somehow this should be enough to destroy the man?

Yeah because these sort of accusations aren't damaging to a person's reputation and career or nothing. lol

And unsubstantiated aaccusations that lead to removal of public officials isn't something to be concerned about or anything. Fuck evidence and the rule of law.

Oh. 

You missed it.
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=44608.msg2508261#msg2508261

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

Obama finally showing his true colors. He ain't slick.

https://mobile.twitter.com/jaredlholt/status/1046843975288705024

[agrajag]

I didn't miss anything. Just because you said you don't give a crap about Kavanaugh post factum doesn't erase your previous posts where you essentially paint him as "the real victim."

[Stro]

I can't believe this guy, a federal judge essentially on trial for toxic masculinity, thought it was a good idea to come to the hearing and scream for an hour and a half before lying about drinking games and refusing to say he'd do the one thing that could quickly and easily clear his name 20 times. Republicans usually are so much better prepared with the talking points and optics.

[Leadbelly]

I didn't miss anything. Just because you said you don't give a crap about Kavanaugh post factum doesn't erase your previous posts where you essentially paint him as "the real victim."

Becuase it was a previous post I said it in?

First of all, as far as I am aware none of the allegations are actually for rape. They are accusations of incidents that happened decades ago. The thing is, no evidence has been brought forward, none.

I don't give a shit quite frankly about Kavanaugh, I just don't feel comfortable with this whole 'listen and believe' crap. Surely it can't be good in the long run for a society to just treat these sort of accusations as gospel and then pretty much destroy a person's reputation and livelihood over it? I don't know... you people make it seem like this is a fucking far out opinion or something. lol

I'm not American and obviously not a Republican. I don't paarticularly give a shit about Kavanaugh personally, rather this trend that sexual misconduct, whatever, allegations should be believed without evidence.

[agrajag]

"without evidence"

[Propagandhim]

 KAVANAUGH: It was just me and Squee, Greendog, Judge, Pepsi, Bonespur, Smelly, T-Boz, Chili, Left Eye, Doink, Circuitbender, Fuckshit, Kid Chameleon, Sammy the Bull, and Paul.

 

[Leadbelly]

"without evidence"

Well, I believe it was already stated that there is insufficient evidence to bring it to an actual trial. So...

[Mandark]

as far as I am aware none of the allegations are actually for rape

[agrajag]

"without evidence"

Well, I believe it was already stated that there is insufficient evidence to bring it to an actual trial. So...

You said you're not from US, right? I don't know about whatever country you live in, but here in US we don't put people on trial as part of their job interview process. If even half the shit came up during a job interview no sane person would even hire him as a burger flipper.

[Mandark]

Demanding we treat this like a criminal trial only in the ways that would be in Kavanaugh's favor (presumption of innocence, highest standard of proof) and not in the aspects that would disadvantage him (well-resourced investigation with no time limit, threatening charges against Mark Judge to compel him to flip, locking up Kavanaugh until the proceedings are finished, etc.) makes no sense.

[Leadbelly]

"without evidence"

Well, I believe it was already stated that there is insufficient evidence to bring it to an actual trial. So...

You said you're not from US, right? I don't know about whatever country you live in, but here in US we don't put people on trial as part of their job interview process. If even half the shit came up during a job interview no sane person would even hire him as a burger flipper.

I never said you did. If I was I wouldn't have stated there is insufficient evidence to bring an actual trial. As I said, my issue is with the 'listen and believe' crap where people's reputations and careers are destroyed by mere allegations.

[Mandark]

As I said, my issue is with the 'listen and believe' crap where people's reputations and careers are destroyed by mere allegations.

*jerking off motion*

[Nintex]

I didn't miss anything. Just because you said you don't give a crap about Kavanaugh post factum doesn't erase your previous posts where you essentially paint him as "the real victim."

Becuase it was a previous post I said it in?

First of all, as far as I am aware none of the allegations are actually for rape. They are accusations of incidents that happened decades ago. The thing is, no evidence has been brought forward, none.

I don't give a shit quite frankly about Kavanaugh, I just don't feel comfortable with this whole 'listen and believe' crap. Surely it can't be good in the long run for a society to just treat these sort of accusations as gospel and then pretty much destroy a person's reputation and livelihood over it? I don't know... you people make it seem like this is a fucking far out opinion or something. lol

I'm not American and obviously not a Republican. I don't paarticularly give a shit about Kavanaugh personally, rather this trend that sexual misconduct, whatever, allegations should be believed without evidence.

Kavanaugh would've been cut some slack if he didn't start his last hearing blaming the Clintons, left wing groups and the media for his troubles in what is best to be described as his audition to play General Hux in the next Star Wars film.

There's a couple of sad realities here. The woman might've been mistaken that Mitchell lady after all found some inconsistencies in statements made by Dr. Ford.
However, it is also possible that Kavanaugh really doesn't remember what he did when he was shitfaced that night. Which would explain why he is convinced he didn't do it.
For me parts of my high school days are a blur and I wasn't an heavy drinker or anything. If someone asked me if I knew about things that happened at a party 10+ years ago it would be hard to recall.
Something like this might stand out but if it wasn't a big deal at the time and they had parties every other weekend his friends might not remember this incident.

To get the truth they need witnesses and some of those were Kavanaugh's high school drinking buddies one of whom has a shot memory.
However at this point Republicans will latch onto anything that seemingly clears him. No matter how ambiguous so they can get this done with.
So if Mark Judge sticks to his story that for them is enough to clear Kavanaugh. As any 'bad' behavior in terms of drinking and partying was just 'high school'.
And I honestly have to agree there that your high school drinking habits should not bar you from jobs 38 years later.

[agrajag]

No, but continuously lying on your job interview is absolutely disqualifying.

[Nintex]

No, but continuously lying on your job interview is absolutely disqualifying.

Yup, that's the weird bit. Kavanaugh not owning his drinking past and at the same time yelling how much he likes to drink beer.
I guess it's some conservative holier than thou thing.

[Leadbelly]

No, but continuously lying on your job interview is absolutely disqualifying.

Fine. I have no issue with that.

[Leadbelly]

I didn't miss anything. Just because you said you don't give a crap about Kavanaugh post factum doesn't erase your previous posts where you essentially paint him as "the real victim."

Becuase it was a previous post I said it in?

First of all, as far as I am aware none of the allegations are actually for rape. They are accusations of incidents that happened decades ago. The thing is, no evidence has been brought forward, none.

I don't give a shit quite frankly about Kavanaugh, I just don't feel comfortable with this whole 'listen and believe' crap. Surely it can't be good in the long run for a society to just treat these sort of accusations as gospel and then pretty much destroy a person's reputation and livelihood over it? I don't know... you people make it seem like this is a fucking far out opinion or something. lol

I'm not American and obviously not a Republican. I don't paarticularly give a shit about Kavanaugh personally, rather this trend that sexual misconduct, whatever, allegations should be believed without evidence.

Kavanaugh would've been cut some slack if he didn't start his last hearing blaming the Clintons, left wing groups and the media for his troubles in what is best to be described as his audition to play General Hux in the next Star Wars film.

There's a couple of sad realities here. The woman might've been mistaken that Mitchell lady after all found some inconsistencies in statements made by Dr. Ford.
However, it is also possible that Kavanaugh really doesn't remember what he did when he was shitfaced that night. Which would explain why he is convinced he didn't do it.
For me parts of my high school days are a blur and I wasn't an heavy drinker or anything. If someone asked me if I knew about things that happened at a party 10+ years ago it would be hard to recall.
Something like this might stand out but if it wasn't a big deal at the time and they had parties every other weekend his friends might not remember this incident.

To get the truth they need witnesses and some of those were Kavanaugh's high school drinking buddies one of whom has a shot memory.
However at this point Republicans will latch onto anything that seemingly clears him. No matter how ambiguous so they can get this done with.
So if Mark Judge sticks to his story that for them is enough to clear Kavanaugh. As any 'bad' behavior in terms of drinking and partying was just 'high school'.
And I honestly have to agree there that your high school drinking habits should not bar you from jobs 38 years later.

That's the thing: The accounts given are blurry enough that it is hard to fathom whether it is an accurate picture of the events or not. It doesn't help that it is something that happened 40 years ago.

[Stro]

That's why there's an investigation going on to see if a more accurate picture of events can be developed no matter the direction.

[agrajag]

There are now more than a handful people all corroborating the same portrait of Kavanaugh: a belligerent drunk who was sexually aggressive towards women, including his college roomate. But sure, all of them hazy memories and the boofing beer guzzler is the one whose recollections should trump all others.

[agrajag]

https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1046863715398815744

[Leadbelly]

There are now more than a handful people all corroborating the same portrait of Kavanaugh: a belligerent drunk who was sexually aggressive towards women, including his college roomate. But sure, all of them hazy memories and the boofing beer guzzler is the one whose recollections should trump all others.

That's not how it works, but whatever. lol

I think you're trying now just to find disagreement with me.

[Propagandhim]

https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1046863715398815744

IT WAS HIS TURN

[Mandark]

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/sep/30/retraction-aaron-rich-and-murder-seth-rich/

If I was the family I would sue the Wapo into bankruptcy. I mean, those sorts of stories is what kept the Seth Rich thing going.

We all got diverted, but I'd like to highlight this from the last page so we can all pile on Nintex for being dumb again.

[Nintex]

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/sep/30/retraction-aaron-rich-and-murder-seth-rich/

If I was the family I would sue the Wapo into bankruptcy. I mean, those sorts of stories is what kept the Seth Rich thing going.

We all got diverted, but I'd like to highlight this from the last page so we can all pile on Nintex for being dumb again.

Bad publicity is still publicity Mandark.